Exhibit 4(e)

                    AGREEMENT AS TO EXPENSES AND LIABILITIES

                  AGREEMENT dated as of March 20, 1996,  between Minnesota Power
& Light Company, a Minnesota  corporation  ("Minnesota Power"), and MP&L Capital
I, a Delaware business trust (the "Trust").

                  WHEREAS, the Trust intends to issue its Common Securities (the
"Common Securities") to and receive Debentures from Minnesota Power and to issue
its 8.05% Quarterly  Income  Preferred  Securities (the "Preferred  Securities")
with such powers,  preferences  and special rights and  restrictions  as are set
forth in the Amended and Restated Trust Agreement of the Trust dated as of March
1, 1996 as the same may be amended from time to time (the "Trust Agreement");

                  WHEREAS, Minnesota Power is the issuer of the Debentures;

                  NOW,  THEREFORE,  in  consideration  of the acceptance by each
holder of the Preferred  Securities,  which  acceptance  Minnesota  Power hereby
agrees  shall  benefit  Minnesota  Power and which  acceptance  Minnesota  Power
acknowledges  will be made in reliance  upon the  execution and delivery of this
Agreement,  Minnesota  Power,  including in its capacity as holder of the Common
Securities, and the Trust hereby agree as follows:

                                    ARTICLE I

                  Section 1.01.  Assumption by Minnesota  Power.  Subject to the
terms  and  conditions   hereof,   Minnesota   Power  hereby   irrevocably   and
unconditionally  assumes  the  full  payment,  when  and as due,  of any and all
Obligations (as hereinafter  defined) to each person or entity to whom the Trust
is now or hereafter  becomes indebted or liable (the  "Beneficiaries").  As used
herein,  "Obligations"  means any  indebtedness,  expenses or liabilities of the
Trust,  other  than  (i)  obligations  of the  Trust  to pay to  holders  of any
Preferred  Securities  or other  similar  interests in the Trust the amounts due
such holders  pursuant to the terms of the  Preferred  Securities  or such other
similar  interests,  as the case may be and (ii) obligations  arising out of the
negligence,  willful  misconduct or bad faith of the Trustees of the Trust. This
Agreement  is intended to be for the benefit of, and to be  enforceable  by, all
such  Beneficiaries,  whether or not such  Beneficiaries  have  received  notice
hereof.

                  Section  1.02.   Term  of  Agreement.   This  Agreement  shall
terminate and be of no further force and effect upon the date on which there are
no  Beneficiaries  remaining;  provided,  however,  that  this  Agreement  shall
continue to be effective or shall be  reinstated,  as the case may be, if at any
time any holder of Preferred  Securities or any Beneficiary must restore payment
of any sums paid under the Preferred Securities, under any Obligation, under the
Guarantee Agreement dated the date hereof by Minnesota Power and The Bank of New
York, as guarantee  trustee,  or under this Agreement for any reason whatsoever.
This Agreement is continuing, irrevocable, unconditional and absolute.



                  Section 1.03. Waiver of Notice.  Minnesota Power hereby waives
notice of acceptance of this Agreement and of any Obligation to which it applies
or may apply, and Minnesota Power hereby waives presentment, demand for payment,
protest, notice of nonpayment,  notice of dishonor, notice of redemption and all
other notices and demands.

                  Section  1.04.  No  Impairment.  The  obligations,  covenants,
agreements and duties of Minnesota Power under this Agreement shall in no way be
affected or impaired by reason of the happening  from time to time of any of the
following:

                  (a) the  extension of time for the payment by the Trust of all
or any portion of the Obligations or for the performance of any other obligation
under, arising out of, or in connection with, the Obligations;

                  (b) any failure,  omission,  delay or lack of diligence on the
part of the Beneficiaries to enforce,  assert or exercise any right,  privilege,
power or remedy conferred on the  Beneficiaries  with respect to the Obligations
or any action on the part of the Trust  granting  indulgence or extension of any
kind; or

                  (c) the  voluntary or  involuntary  liquidation,  dissolution,
sale of any collateral, receivership, insolvency, bankruptcy, assignment for the
benefit of creditors,  reorganization,  arrangement, composition or readjustment
of debt of,  or other  similar  proceedings  affecting,  the Trust or any of the
assets of the Trust.

There shall be no obligation of the  Beneficiaries  to give notice to, or obtain
the consent of,  Minnesota  Power with  respect to the  happening  of any of the
foregoing.

                  Section  1.05.  Enforcement.  A  Beneficiary  may enforce this
Agreement  directly against Minnesota Power and Minnesota Power waives any right
or remedy to require  that any action be brought  against the Trust or any other
person or entity before proceeding against Minnesota Power.


                                   ARTICLE II

                  Section 2.01.  Binding  Effect.  All guarantees and agreements
contained  in this  Agreement  shall bind the  successors,  assigns,  receivers,
trustees and  representatives  of Minnesota Power and shall inure to the benefit
of the Beneficiaries.

                  Section  2.02.  Amendment.   So  long  as  there  remains  any
Beneficiary  or any  Preferred  Securities of any series are  outstanding,  this
Agreement  shall not be  modified  or  amended  in any  manner  adverse  to such
Beneficiary or to the holders of the Preferred Securities.

                  Section   2.03.   Notices.   Any  notice,   request  or  other
communication  required or  permitted  to be given  hereunder  shall be given in
writing  by  delivering   the  same  against  



receipt  therefor by facsimile  transmission  (confirmed  by mail),  telex or by
registered or certified  mail,  addressed as follows (and if so given,  shall be
deemed given when mailed or upon receipt of an  answer-back,  if sent by telex),
to wit:

                           MP&L Capital I
                           c/o  Minnesota Power & Light Company
                           30 West Superior Street
                           Duluth, Minnesota  55802

                             Facsimile No.: (218) 723-3955
                             Attention: Philip R. Halverson

                           Minnesota Power & Light Company
                           30 West Superior Street
                           Duluth, Minnesota  55802

                             Facsimile No.: (218) 723-3912
                             Attention: James K. Vizanko

                  Section 2.04 THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE GOVERNED BY AND CONSTRUED
AND  INTERPRETED  IN ACCORDANCE  WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK (WITHOUT
REGARD TO CONFLICT OF LAWS PRINCIPLES).




                  THIS  AGREEMENT is executed as of the day and year first above
written.

                                     MINNESOTA POWER & LIGHT COMPANY


                                     By:  D. G. Gartzke
                                        -------------------------------------
                                        Name:  David G. Gartzke
                                        Title: Senior Vice President-Finance
                                               and Chief Financial Officer


                                     MP&L CAPITAL I

                                     By:  Philip R. Halverson
                                        -------------------------------------
                                          Philip R. Halverson
                                            not in his individual capacity, but
                                            solely as Administrative Trustee