December 19, 1996



Mr. Paul Liska
1048 Ashland Avenue
River Forest, Illinois  60305

Dear Paul,

The purpose of this letter is to outline the compensation
and benefits you will receive if your employment with The
St. Paul Companies, Inc. ("Company") is terminated by the
Company, or by you for "Good Reason" as defined in
Section II below.  This letter will also outline the
Company's expectations relative to any eventual
subsequent employment with a competitor.  Referring to my
letter to you of December 5, 1996, to the extent that the
content of this letter conflicts in any way with any
previous written or oral communication between you, me or
any other representative of the Company, the content of
this letter will control and take precedence over such
previous communication.  The terms of this letter
agreement can be amended in the future only by express
mutual written agreement between Doug Leatherdale, me or
our successors (representing the Company) and you.

I.   The benefits provided to you in a termination
     situation initiated by the Company, will depend on
     whether or not such termination is "For Cause".  If
     your termination is "For Cause", you will be
     ineligible for any benefits not required by law.
     For purposes of this agreement, "For Cause" shall
     mean your conviction of any felony involving
     intentional conduct, your conviction of any lesser
     crime or offense involving the illegal use or
     conversion of Company property, your willful
     misconduct in connection with the performance of
     your duties with the Company (which shall not be
     deemed to include any action taken by you in good
     faith in the interest of the Company), or your
     taking illegal actions in your business or personal
     life which materially and demonstrably harm the
     reputation or damage the good name of the Company.



     If the cause of the termination is a Change in
     Control of the Company, the Company's Special
     Severance Policy ("Policy") as in force as of the
     date of a Change of Control, as defined below, will
     determine the level of benefits to which you will be
     entitled.  For purposes of this Policy, as it
     currently is drafted, "Change in Control" means a
     change in control that would cause the Company to
     file a Form 8-K with the SEC; the Company's
     incumbent board of directors ceases to be a
     majority; or fifty (50) per cent of the Company's
     common stock is acquired by a "person" within the
     meaning of Section 14 (d) of the Securities Exchange
     Act of 1934.  Under the Policy, you are eligible for
     these benefits once you've been employed for three
     months with the Company and your employment is
     terminated by the Company within two years after a
     Change in Control for reasons other than "Cause" or
     you terminate voluntarily for "Good Reason".  While
     the "Policy" cannot be amended to waive the three
     month requirement detailed above, if you were to be
     terminated for reasons covered by the Policy in that
     time frame, the Company will pay you the cash
     equivalency of the benefits and compensation you
     would have received under the Policy as if you had
     met the three month eligibility requirements.
     
     For senior executives, under the Policy and for
     purposes of this Section I of this letter agreement,
     "Good Reason" includes such situations as an adverse
     change in status or position as a result of a
     material diminution in duties or responsibilities,
     the refusal to allow you to engage in activities
     that were not prohibited before the Change in
     Control, a reduction in your salary, job relocation
     of a certain type and failure to maintain benefits
     that are substantially the same as are in effect
     when the Change in Control occurs.
     
     If you are eventually eligible for severance
     payments under this Policy, you will be entitled to
     receive:

          A lump sum severance payment equal to 299 per cent
          (299%) of your "annualized includible compensation for
          the base period" (as determined under Section 280 G of
          the Internal Revenue Code).  All payments are subject to
          reduction so that no amount will be subject to federal
          excise tax on "excess parachute payments" imposed under
          Section 4999 of the Internal Revenue Code.


     
          Continued participation for three years in Company
          medical, dental, disability and life insurance programs
          in which you participated on the date such employment is
          terminated.
     
          Outplacement assistance.
  
     Please note that the Board may amend, modify or
     revoke the Special Severance Policy as it applies to
     senior executives of the Company as a group, at any
     time prior to a Change in Control without employees'
     consent.  (There are restrictions on amendments to,
     and the termination of, the policy after a Change in
     Control has occurred.)
     
     While the Policy addresses only the benefits as
     outlined above, various Company benefit plans also
     have Change in Control provisions.  While these
     plans are amended from time to time and the benefits
     you would be entitled to receive in the future will
     be affected by such amendments, currently such
     provisions provide the following benefits to
     individuals at your level in case of a Change in
     Control.  (What is provided below is a very brief
     summary.  If you would like more detail, I can
     provide you with a complete copy of such plans for
     your review):

          If vested in the Company's qualified pension plan,
          upon a Change in Control, the accrued benefits of all
          participants is increased on a nondiscriminating basis to
          apply any overfunded balance.  You will also be credited
          with three additional years of service as described
          below, provided you are vested in the plan and meet any
          other eligibility criteria.
     
          Under the Company's 401 (k) plan, all Company
          matching contributions become 100 percent (100%) vested
          for terminated participants.
       
          All stock options and shares of restricted stock
          vest immediately upon a Change in Control and are fully
          exercisable.


     
          The Company provides non-qualified benefit
          equivalization plans through a Rabbi Trust for executives
          eligible to receive 401 (k) or pension benefits in excess
          of the statutory limit.  If there is a Change in Control,
          the Rabbi Trust will be funded and any benefits to which
          you may be entitled will be paid to you by the trustee in
          accordance with the terms of the Trust and the underlying
          plans.

II.  If the termination is as a result of any reason
     other than a (i) Change in Control or (ii) for
     Cause, or if you terminate the agreement for Good
     Reason (as defined in this Section), you will
     receive the following benefits:

          Severance pay.  If the termination takes place
          before your third anniversary of employment with the
          Company, you will receive a severance payment equal to
          three hundred percent (300%) of your then current annual
          salary, plus three hundred percent (300%) of the average
          annual incentive award you earned since joining the
          Company, provided that you sign the standard Company
          severance agreement for senior executives releasing the
          Company from legal liability for your termination.  If
          the termination takes place after your third anniversary,
          you will receive a severance payment equal to one hundred
          fifty percent (150%) of your then current annual salary,
          plus one hundred fifty percent (150%) of your average
          annual incentive award in the previous three years,
          again, provided you sign the release described above.
       
          Pension Benefits.  You will be provided with three
          additional years of credited service, which will have the
          affect of increasing your net pension benefit at the time
          of your termination of employment from the Company.  You
          must be vested in the Employees' Retirement Plan at the
          time of termination in order to receive this additional
          service.

          What follows is an example of the value of this
          benefit.  When you review this chart, please note that
          this is a good faith estimate and does not reflect any
          future changes in the Employees' Retirement Plan,
          Executive Retirement Plan (ERP) or future interest
          rates, and thus is for illustrative purposes only:



                   Actual Service     +3 Years Credited Service
                  ---------------     -------------------------
                Annual       Lump       Annual        Lump
        Age    Annuity        Sum      Annuity         Sum
       ----    -------    ----------  ---------    ----------
        55     $183,144   $1,980,000   $228,924    $2,475,000
        62     $545,388   $5,320,000   $663,888    $6,475,000
        65     $830,256   $7,630,000   $943,476    $8,675,000
     
       In preparing this estimate, we relied on the
       following assumptions:

     1997 Annual Salary:   $600,000, with 4% per year
                           increases

     1997 Annual           $360,000, with 4% per year
     Incentive:            increases

     Date of Birth:        1/1/55

     Date of Hire:         1/1/97

     Lump Sum Interest     30 - Year U. S. Treasury
     Rate:                 rate of 8%

       This estimate is based on the following current
       defined benefit formula:

            Multiply your monthly covered compensation amount by
            45% (Your covered compensation amount is based on the
            average of social security wage bases and your age, thus
            it changes each year).
       
            Multiply the amount of your five-year average
            monthly salary, which is greater than your covered
            compensation amount, by 54%.
     
            Add the results of the first two bullets and
            multiply the amount times your total years of credited
            service (this is where the three additional years of
            service will increase your benefit) and divide the result
            by 30.  This will be your normal monthly retirement
            benefit under the current formula.
       

       
            Note that all pension benefit attributable to the
            additional three years of credited service will be
            payable from the ERP (the Company's non-qualified pension
            plan).  As you are aware, the government restricts the
            amount of pension benefits which may be paid through tax
            qualified plans.  The portion of your pension not
            attributable to this additional three years of credited
            service will be, to the greatest extent possible, paid
            out of the qualified plan.  The remainder of the latter
            commitment will be paid out of the ERP.
       
          Savings and other Pension Benefits.  As with our
          defined pension plan, each of our savings and benefit
          equalization plans is governed by a plan document that
          may be amended from time to time.  Your treatment will be
          governed by the wording of those plans at the time of
          termination.  Currently these would include:
  
             Executive Savings Plan (ESP) - - your vested account
             balance.
       
             Deferred Incentive Bonuses - - your vested deferred
             bonus.
       
             401(k) Plan - - all your contributions, plus vested
             Company contributions.
       
             Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) - - all vested
             Company contributions.
       
         In addition, in the event you terminate within
         six years of your commencement of employment
         with the Company, the Company will pay you a
         lump sum amount equal to the unvested balance
         of your 401(k) (Savings Plus), ESP and ESOP
         accounts, as soon as administratively possible.
  
         Welfare Benefits.  While we will be unable to cover
         you under the Company's broad-based welfare plans after
         termination, we will either reimburse your out of pocket
         cost, grossed up for income tax purposes, to replace
         these coverages in essentially the same form as under our
         plan, or arrange for equivalent policies to be purchased
         for you at Company expense.



    For purposes of Section II of this agreement only,
     "Good Reason" shall mean the continuation of any of
     the following after written notice from you and a
     failure of the Company to remedy such event within
     thirty (30) days after the receipt of such notice:

      (i)  a reduction in your base salary as in effect
           from time to time;
     
     (ii)  a failure of the Company to provide you
           with any benefit or compensation plan (including
           any pension, profit sharing, life insurance,
           health, accidental death or disability plan)
           which has been made available to other
           comparable executives on terms and conditions no
           less favorable to you than those offered to such
           other executives [For purposes of this
           subsection (ii), Pat Thiele, or a successor
           executive performing essentially the same duties
           currently being performed by Mr. Thiele will not
           be considered a "comparable" executive.];
     
    (iii)  your receipt of any annual incentive payout
           based on financial measures which are shared
           with either senior executives that is not
           consistent with the payout criteria of other
           senior executives  (all payouts are subject to
           Board approval);
  
     (iv)  the assignment to you of duties materially
           inconsistent with your position as Executive
           Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of
           the Company;
     
      (v)  a material adverse change in your title or the
           line of authority through which you are required
           to report; or
     
     (vi)  a relocation of the corporate headquarters
           of the Company to a location outside of the
           greater Minneapolis/St. Paul metropolitan area.



III. Upon termination, in exchange for all of the
     benefits provided above, you agree, for a period of
     two (2) years, to not engage directly or indirectly
     in any business (as a shareholder, employee,
     director, officer, partner, owner or in any capacity
     calling for the performance of acts of management,
     operation or control) which competes with the
     Company.  This non-compete prohibition applies to
     any business engaging in the underwriting of
     property and casualty insurance, or any other
     business which the Company may enter between now and
     the date of termination.

     You also agree, for this two (2) year period, to not
     hire or cause to be hired, without the express
     written consent of the Company, any employee of the
     Company by a successor entity or employer with whom
     you may ultimately become associated.

     You also agree, for an indefinite period, to not
     divulge to any person or entities, without the
     express written consent of the Company, confidential
     information relating to the Company's business,
     including, but not limited to, investment
     strategies, business methods, rating methodologies
     and strategies, actuarial methodologies and
     reserving strategies, customer and agent lists,
     trade secrets and the like.

     If you are in agreement with the terms of this
     letter, please indicate that acceptance by signing
     below.  Keep one original for your files and return
     the other to me.  As I noted above, to the extent
     that the content of this letter conflicts in any way
     with previous written or oral communication between
     you, me or any other representatives of the Company,
     the content of this letter will control and take
     precedence over such previous communication.



Agreed to and Accepted:


PAUL LISKA                    THE ST. PAUL COMPANIES, INC.


/s/ Paul J. Liska
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    Paul J. Liska

Date:     January 20, 1997              By:  /s/ Greg A.Lee
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                                                 Greg A. Lee

                              Its:  Senior Vice President- Human
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                              Date:  December 26, 1996
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