Exhibit 4(e)


                       AGREEMENT AS TO EXPENSES AND LIABILITIES

                    AGREEMENT dated as of             , 1995, between
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          Minnesota Power & Light Company, a Minnesota corporation
          ("Minnesota Power"), and MP&L Capital I, a Delaware business
          trust (the "Trust").

                    WHEREAS, the Trust intends to issue its Common
          Securities (the "Common Securities") to and receive Debentures
          from Minnesota Power and to issue its    % Quarterly Income
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          Preferred Securities (the "Preferred Securities") with such
          powers, preferences and special rights and restrictions as are
          set forth in the Amended and Restated Trust Agreement of the
          Trust dated as of            , 1996  as the same may be amended
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          from time to time (the "Trust Agreement");

                    WHEREAS, Minnesota Power is the issuer of the
          Debentures;

                    NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the acceptance by
          each holder of the Preferred Securities, which acceptance
          Minnesota Power hereby agrees shall benefit Minnesota Power and
          which acceptance Minnesota Power acknowledges will be made in
          reliance upon the execution and delivery of this Agreement,
          Minnesota Power, including in its capacity as holder of the
          Common Securities, and the Trust hereby agree as follows:


                                      ARTICLE I

                    Section 1.01.  Assumption by Minnesota Power.  Subject
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          to the terms and conditions hereof, Minnesota Power hereby
          irrevocably and unconditionally assumes the full payment, when
          and as due, of any and all Obligations (as hereinafter defined)
          to each person or entity to whom the Trust is now or hereafter
          becomes indebted or liable (the "Beneficiaries").  As used
          herein, "Obligations" means any indebtedness, expenses or
          liabilities of the Trust, other than (i) obligations of the Trust
          to pay to holders of any Preferred Securities or other similar
          interests in the Trust the amounts due such holders pursuant to
          the terms of the Preferred Securities or such other similar
          interests, as the case may be and (ii) obligations arising out of
          the negligence, willful misconduct or bad faith of the Trustees
          of the Trust.  This Agreement is intended to be for the benefit
          of, and to be enforceable by, all such Beneficiaries, whether or
          not such Beneficiaries have received notice hereof.

                    Section 1.02.  Term of Agreement.  This Agreement shall
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          terminate and be of no further force and effect upon the date on
          which there are no Beneficiaries remaining; provided, however,
          that this Agreement shall continue to be effective or shall be
          reinstated, as the case may be, if at any time any holder of
          Preferred Securities or any Beneficiary must restore payment of
          any sums paid under the Preferred Securities, under any
          Obligation, under the Guarantee Agreement dated the date hereof
          by Minnesota Power and The Bank of New York, as guarantee
          trustee, or under this Agreement for any reason whatsoever.  This
          Agreement is continuing, irrevocable, unconditional and absolute.

                    Section 1.03.  Waiver of Notice.  Minnesota Power
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          hereby waives notice of acceptance of this Agreement and of any
          Obligation to which it applies or may apply, and Minnesota Power
          hereby waives presentment, demand for payment, protest, notice of
          nonpayment, notice of dishonor, notice of redemption and all
          other notices and demands.

                    Section 1.04.  No Impairment.  The obligations,
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          covenants, agreements and duties of Minnesota Power under this
          Agreement shall in no way be affected or impaired by reason of
          the happening from time to time of any of the following:

                    (a) the extension of time for the payment by the Trust
          of all or any portion of the Obligations or for the performance
          of any other obligation under, arising out of, or in connection
          with, the Obligations;

                    (b) any failure, omission, delay or lack of diligence
          on the part of the Beneficiaries to enforce, assert or exercise
          any right, privilege, power or remedy conferred on the
          Beneficiaries with respect to the Obligations or any action on
          the part of the Trust granting indulgence or extension of any
          kind; or

                    (c) the voluntary or involuntary liquidation,
          dissolution, sale of any collateral, receivership, insolvency,
          bankruptcy, assignment for the benefit of creditors,
          reorganization, arrangement, composition or readjustment of debt
          of, or other similar proceedings affecting, the Trust or any of
          the assets of the Trust.

          There shall be no obligation of the Beneficiaries to give notice
          to, or obtain the consent of, Minnesota Power with respect to the
          happening of any of the foregoing.

                    Section 1.05.  Enforcement.  A Beneficiary may enforce 
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          this Agreement directly against Minnesota Power and Minnesota
          Power waives any right or remedy to require that any action be
          brought against the Trust or any other person or entity before
          proceeding against Minnesota Power.


                                      ARTICLE II

                    Section 2.01.  Binding Effect.  All guarantees and
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          agreements contained in this Agreement shall bind the successors,
          assigns, receivers, trustees and representatives of Minnesota
          Power and shall inure to the benefit of the Beneficiaries. 

                    Section 2.02.  Amendment.  So long as there remains any
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          Beneficiary or any Preferred Securities of any series are
          outstanding, this Agreement shall not be modified or amended in
          any manner adverse to such Beneficiary or to the holders of the
          Preferred Securities.

                    Section 2.03.  Notices.  Any notice, request or other
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          communication required or permitted to be given hereunder shall
          be given in writing by delivering the same against receipt
          therefor by facsimile transmission (confirmed by mail), telex or
          by registered or certified mail, addressed as follows (and if so
          given, shall be deemed given when mailed or upon receipt of an
          answer-back, if sent by telex), to wit:

                         MP&L Capital I
                         c/o  [Trustee]

                           Facsimile No.:
                           Attention:

                         Minnesota Power & Light Company
                         30 West Superior Street
                         Duluth, Minnesota  55802

                           Facsimile No.:
                           Attention:

                    Section 2.04  THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE GOVERNED BY AND
          CONSTRUED AND INTERPRETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF THE
          STATE OF NEW YORK (WITHOUT REGARD TO CONFLICT OF LAWS
          PRINCIPLES).

                    THIS AGREEMENT is executed as of the day and year first
          above written.

                                        MINNESOTA POWER & LIGHT COMPANY


                                        By:
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                                           Name:
                                           Title:


                                        MP&L CAPITAL I

                                        By:
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                                           not in his individual capacity,
                                           but solely as Administrative
                                           Trustee