Exhibit 10.27

                              EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT

          This EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, dated as of the 8th day of September, 2005,
is between Conseco Services, LLC, an Indiana limited liability company
("Company"), and Chris Nickele ("Executive").

          WHEREAS, the services of Executive and his managerial and professional
experience are of value to the Company.

          WHEREAS, the Company desires to continue to have the benefit and
advantage of the services of Executive for an extended period to assist the
Company and Conseco, Inc. ("Conseco") upon the terms and conditions set forth
herein.

          NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the foregoing and the mutual
covenants contained herein, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby
acknowledged, the parties agree as follows:

          1. Employment. The Company hereby employs Executive and Executive
hereby accepts employment upon the terms and conditions hereinafter set forth.

          2. Term. The effective date of this agreement (the "Agreement") shall
be October 10, 2005 (the "Effective Date"). Subject to the provisions for
termination as provided in Section 10 hereof, the term of Executive's employment
under this Agreement shall be the period beginning on the Effective Date and
ending on October 31, 2009. As used in this Agreement, the "Term" is the period
ending on October 31, 2009. The Term shall end upon the termination of
Executive's employment with the Company. Unless the Company otherwise notifies
Executive, after the end of the Term Executive may continue as an at will
employee of the Company.

          3. Duties. During the Term, Executive shall be engaged by the Company
in the capacity of Executive Vice President, New Product Development. Executive
shall report to the Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer of
Conseco (or such other senior officer of Conseco designated by the President of
Conseco).

          4. Extent of Services. During the Term, subject to the direction and
control of the Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer of
Conseco (or his designee) and the President of Conseco, Executive shall have the
power and authority commensurate with his executive status and necessary to
perform his duties hereunder. Executive shall devote his entire employable time,
attention and best efforts to the business of the Company and, during the Term,
shall not, without the consent of the Company, be actively engaged in any other
business activity, whether or not such business activity is pursued for gain,
profit or other pecuniary advantage; provided, however, that, subject to Section
9 hereof, this shall not be construed as preventing Executive from serving on
boards of professional, community, civic, education, charitable and corporate
organizations on which he presently serves or may choose to serve or investing
his assets in such form or manner as will not require any services on the part
of Executive in the operation of the affairs of the companies in which such
investments are made (to the extent not in violation of the nonsolicitation
provisions of Section 9 hereof); provided,


however, that corporate organizations shall be limited to those which Executive
presently serves, if any, as listed on Exhibit A and such others as mutually
agreed upon by Executive and the Company.

          5. Compensation. During the Term:

             (a) As compensation for services hereunder rendered during the Term
          hereof, Executive shall receive a base salary ("Base Salary") of Two
          Hundred Seventy-Five Thousand Dollars ($275,000) per year payable in
          equal installments in accordance with the Company's payroll procedure
          for its salaried executives. Salary payments and other payments under
          this Agreement shall be subject to withholding of taxes and other
          appropriate and customary amounts. The Base Salary shall be reviewed
          at least annually at the same time as other senior executives, and
          Executive may receive increases in his Base Salary from time to time,
          based upon his performance, subject to approval of the Company.

             (b) In addition to Base Salary, Executive will have an opportunity
          to earn a bonus each year as determined by the Company, with a target
          annual bonus equal to 50% of Executive's Base Salary (the "Target
          Bonus") and a maximum annual bonus of 100% of Executive's Base Salary
          with respect to any calendar year, with such bonus payable at such
          time that other similar payments are made to other Company executives.
          The bonus for 2005 shall be One Hundred Thirty-Seven Thousand Five
          Hundred Dollars ($137,500). For purposes of clarification, annual
          executive bonuses are generally paid in March of the year following
          the year with respect to which such bonuses are payable, if Executive
          remains employed with the Company through such date or as otherwise
          payable under Section 11 of this Agreement. Notwithstanding the above,
          a pro-rata portion of the bonus for the year in which his employment
          terminates will be paid at the same time that similar payments are
          made to other Company executives if Executive remains employed through
          the end of the Term. The Target Bonuses will be based on financial and
          other objective targets that the Company reasonably believes are
          reasonably attainable at the time that they are set.

             (c) As soon as reasonably practicable, Executive will receive an
          award of options to purchase 35,000 shares of common stock with an
          exercise price equal to the fair market value on the date of the grant
          and (ii) 10,000 shares of restricted stock. One hundred percent (100%)
          of the options will vest over a 4-year period beginning on the date of
          the grant of the equity awards (the "Grant Date"), with one-fourth
          vesting on each anniversary of the Grant Date. Fifty percent (50%) of
          the restricted stock will vest on the second anniversary of the date
          of grant of the restricted stock, with the other fifty percent (50%)
          vesting on the third anniversary of such grant. Executive shall also
          be eligible to participate in and receive future grants under any
          stock option or equity-based program offered by Conseco to executives
          of similar title and responsibility, if any, subject to the discretion
          of the Board.

             (d) A bonus of $50,000 shall be paid to Executive as soon as
          reasonably practicable after the Effective Date. In the event that
          Executive voluntarily resigns (other than With Reason) or the Company
          terminates Executive with Just Cause before the first anniversary of
          the Effective Date, Executive will repay a pro rata portion of such
          bonus to the Company within 5 business days of such resignation or
          termination.

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          6. Fringe Benefits. During the Term:

             (a) Executive shall be entitled to participate in such existing
          executive benefit plans and insurance programs offered by the Company,
          or which it may adopt from time to time, for its executive management
          or supervisory personnel generally, in accordance with the eligibility
          requirements for participation therein. Nothing herein shall be
          construed so as to prevent the Company from modifying or terminating
          any executive benefit plans or programs, or executive fringe benefits,
          that it may adopt from time to time.

             (b) Executive shall be entitled to four weeks of vacation with pay
          each year.

             (c) Executive may incur reasonable expenses for promoting the
          Company's business, including expenses for entertainment, travel,
          lodging and meals while working at other Company locations and similar
          items. The Company shall reimburse Executive for all such reasonable
          expenses upon Executive's periodic presentation of an itemized account
          of such expenditures. The Company agrees to pay Executive an
          additional amount to cover the incremental additional income taxes
          incurred by Executive, if any, with respect to payment or
          reimbursement of any reasonable business expenses pursuant to this
          subsection (c).

          7. Disability. If Executive shall become physically or mentally
disabled during the Term to the extent that even with accommodation his ability
to perform his duties and services hereunder is materially and adversely
impaired, his Base Salary, bonus and other compensation provided herein shall
continue while he remains employed by the Company; provided, that if such
disability (as confirmed by competent medical evidence) continues for at least
six (6) consecutive months, the Company may terminate Executive's employment
hereunder, in which case the Company immediately shall pay Executive a cash
payment equal to (i) his annual Base Salary as provided in Section 5(a) hereof
to the extent earned but unpaid as of the date of termination, (ii) a pro-rata
portion of the Target Bonus for the year in which his disability occurs plus the
Target Bonus for the preceding year if his disability occurs after year-end but
before such bonuses are paid and the bonus payable pursuant to Section 5(d)
hereof (to the extent not already paid). However, any options or restricted
stock held by Executive on the date of termination shall vest only through the
date of termination according to the normal vesting schedule applicable to such
options or restricted stock and Executive shall not receive any accelerated or
additional vesting of such stock or options due to termination under this
Section 7 on or after such date. No payments or vesting under this paragraph
will be made if such disability arose primarily from (a) chronic use of
intoxicants, drugs or narcotics (other than drugs prescribed to Executive by a
physician and used by Executive for their intended purpose for which they had
been prescribed) or (b) intentionally self-inflicted injury or intentionally
self-induced illness.

          8. Disclosure of Information. Executive acknowledges that, in and as a
result of his employment with the Company, he has been and will be making use
of, acquiring and/or adding to confidential information of the Company and its
affiliates of a special and unique nature and value. As a material inducement to
the Company to enter into this Agreement and to pay to

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Executive the compensation stated in Section 5, as well as any additional
benefits stated herein, Executive covenants and agrees that he shall not, at any
time while he is employed by the Company or at any time thereafter, directly or
indirectly, divulge or disclose for any purpose whatsoever, any confidential
information (whether or not specifically labeled or identified as "confidential
information"), in any form or medium, that has been obtained by or disclosed to
him as a result of his employment with the Company and which the Company or any
of its affiliates has taken appropriate steps to safeguard, except to the extent
that such confidential information (a) becomes a matter of public record or is
published in a newspaper, magazine or other periodical available to the general
public, other than as a result of any act or omission of Executive, (b) is
required to be disclosed by any law, regulation or order of any court or
regulatory commission, department or agency, in which event Executive shall give
prompt notice of such requirement to the Company to enable the Company to seek
an appropriate protective order or confidential treatment, or (c) must be
disclosed to enable Executive properly to perform his duties under this
Agreement. Upon the termination of Executive's employment, Executive shall
return such information (in whatever form) obtained from or belonging to the
Company or any of its affiliates which he may have in his possession or control.

          9. Covenants Against Solicitation. Executive acknowledges that the
services he is to render to the Company and its affiliates are of a special and
unusual character, with a unique value to the Company and its affiliates, the
loss of which cannot adequately be compensated by damages or an action at law.
In view of the unique value to the Company and its affiliates of the services of
Executive for which the Company has contracted hereunder, because of the
confidential information to be obtained by, or disclosed to, Executive as set
forth in Section 8 above, and as a material inducement to the Company to enter
into this Agreement and to pay to Executive the compensation stated in Section 5
hereof, as well as any additional benefits stated herein, and other good and
valuable consideration, Executive covenants and agrees that throughout the
period Executive remains employed or compensated hereunder and for one year
thereafter, Executive shall not, directly or indirectly, anywhere in the United
States of America (i) solicit or attempt to convert to other insurance carriers
or other corporations, persons or other entities providing these same or similar
products or services provided by the Company and its affiliates, any customers
or policyholders of the Company or any of its affiliates or (ii) solicit for
employment or employ any employee of the Company or any of its affiliates.
Should any particular covenant or provision of this Section 9 be held
unreasonable or contrary to public policy for any reason, including, without
limitation, the time period, geographical area, or scope of activity covered by
any restrictive covenant or provision, the Company and Executive acknowledge and
agree that such covenant or provision shall automatically be deemed modified
such that the contested covenant or provision shall have the closest effect
permitted by applicable law to the original form and shall be given effect and
enforced as so modified to whatever extent would be reasonable and enforceable
under applicable law.



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          10. Termination.

             (a) Either the Company or Executive may terminate his employment at
          any time for any reason upon written notice to the other. The Company
          may terminate Executive's employment for Just Cause pursuant to
          Section 10(b) below or in a Control Termination pursuant to Section
          10(c) below. Executive's employment shall also terminate (i) upon the
          death of Executive or (ii) after disability of Executive pursuant to
          Section 7 hereof.

             (b) The Company may terminate Executive's employment at any time
          for Just Cause. For purposes of this Agreement, "Just Cause" shall
          mean: (i) (A) a material breach by Executive of this Agreement, (B) a
          material breach of Executive's duty of loyalty to the Company or its
          affiliates, or (C) willful malfeasance or fraud or dishonesty of a
          substantial nature in performing Executive's services on behalf of the
          Company or its affiliates, which in each case is willful and
          deliberate on Executive's part and committed in bad faith or without
          reasonable belief that such breach or action is in the best interests
          of the Company or its affiliates; (ii) Executive's use of alcohol or
          drugs (other than drugs prescribed to Executive by a physician and
          used by Executive for their intended purposes for which they had been
          prescribed) or other repeated conduct which materially and repeatedly
          interferes with the performance of his duties hereunder, which
          materially compromises the integrity or the reputation of the Company
          or its affiliates, or which results in other substantial economic harm
          to the Company or its affiliates; (iii) Executive's conviction by a
          court of law, admission that he is guilty, or entry of a plea of nolo
          contendere with regard to a felony or other crime involving moral
          turpitude; (iv) Executive's unscheduled absence from his employment
          duties other than as a result of illness or disability, for whatever
          cause, for a period of more than ten (10) consecutive days, without
          consent from the Company prior to the expiration of the ten (10) day
          period; or (v) Executive's failure to take action or to abstain from
          taking action, as directed in writing by a member of the board or a
          higher ranking executive of the Company or Conseco, where such failure
          continues after Executive has been given written notice of such
          failure and at least five (5) business days thereafter to cure such
          failure.

             No termination shall be deemed to be a termination by the Company
          for Just Cause if the termination is as a result of Executive refusing
          to act in a manner that would be a violation of applicable law or
          where Executive acts (or refrains from taking action) in good faith in
          accordance with directions of a member of the board or higher ranking
          executive but was unable to attain the desired results because such
          results were inherently unreasonable or unattainable.

             (c) The Company may terminate Executive's employment in a Control
          Termination. A "Control Termination" shall mean any termination by the
          Company (or its successor) of Executive's employment for any reason
          within six months in anticipation of or within two years following a
          Change in Control of the Company.

             The term "Change in Control" shall mean the occurrence of any of
          the following:

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                  (i) the acquisition (other than an acquisition in connection
             with a "Non-Control Transaction") by any "person" (as such term is
             used in Sections 13(d) and 14(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of
             1934, as amended (the "1934 Act")) of "beneficial ownership" (as
             such term is defined in Rule 13d-3 promulgated under the 1934 Act),
             directly or indirectly, of securities of Conseco or its Ultimate
             Parent representing 51% or more of the combined voting power of the
             then outstanding securities of Conseco or its Ultimate Parent
             entitled to vote generally with respect to the election of the
             board of directors of Conseco or its Ultimate Parent; or

                  (ii) as a result of or in connection with a tender or exchange
             offer or contest for election of directors, individual board
             members of Conseco (identified as of the date of commencement of
             such tender or exchange offer, or the commencement of such election
             contest, as the case may be) cease to constitute at least a
             majority of the board of directors of Conseco; or

                  (iii) the consummation of a merger, consolidation or
             reorganization with or into Conseco unless (x) the stockholders of
             Conseco immediately before such transaction beneficially own,
             directly or indirectly, immediately following such transaction
             securities representing 51% or more of the combined voting power of
             the then outstanding securities entitled to vote generally with
             respect to the election of the board of directors of Conseco (or
             its successor) or, if applicable, the Ultimate Parent and (y)
             individual board members of Conseco (identified as of the date that
             a binding agreement providing for such transaction is signed)
             constitute at least a majority of the board of directors of Conseco
             (or its successor) or, if applicable, the Ultimate Parent (a
             transaction to which clauses (x) and (y) apply, a "Non-Control
             Transaction").

          For purposes of this Agreement, "Ultimate Parent" shall mean the
          parent corporation (or if there is more than one parent corporation,
          the ultimate parent corporation) that, following a transaction,
          directly or indirectly beneficially owns a majority of the voting
          power of the outstanding securities entitled to vote with respect to
          the election of the board of directors of Conseco (or its successor).

             (d) At Executive's option, he may terminate employment with the
          Company "With Reason" provided one or more of the following conditions
          are met: (i) his role or duties have been materially diminished by
          changes in responsibilities or authority; (ii) Executive is required
          to report to anyone other than the Chief Administrative Officer of
          Conseco (or such other senior officer of Conseco designated by the
          President of Conseco); (iii) any reduction in Executive's Base Salary
          or Target Bonus; (iv) Executive is required by the Company to relocate
          his residence or is required to spend a majority of his time at a
          Company location outside of the metropolitan Chicago area; or (v)
          there is a "Change in Control" of the company as defined in Section
          10(c) and, following Executive's written request made prior to the
          Change in Control, the ultimate parent entity or entities directly or
          indirectly gaining control of a majority of Conseco's Board or

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          outstanding securities entitled to vote with respect to the Company's
          Board fails to affirm and guarantee Conseco's current and future
          obligations under this Agreement.

             (e) Upon termination of Executive's employment with the Company for
          any reason (whether voluntary or involuntary), Executive shall be
          deemed to have voluntarily resigned from all positions that Executive
          may then hold with the Company and any of its affiliates; provided
          that such deemed resignation shall not adversely affect Executive's
          rights to compensation or benefits under Section 11 of this Agreement
          and shall not affect the determination of whether Executive's
          termination was for Just Cause.

          11. Payments Following Termination.

             (a) In the event that Executive's employment is terminated by the
          Company for Just Cause (as defined herein), upon expiration of the
          Term of this Agreement or Executive voluntarily resigns, then the
          Company immediately shall pay Executive the remaining payments of his
          Base Salary as provided in Section 5(a) hereof that would have been
          payable to Executive through the date of termination. Any options or
          restricted stock held by Executive on the date of termination shall
          vest only through the date of termination according to the normal
          vesting schedule applicable to such options or restricted stock, and
          Executive shall not receive any accelerated or additional vesting of
          such stock or options on or after such date.

             (b) In the event Executive's employment is terminated by the death
          of Executive, then the Company shall pay Executive's estate a cash
          lump sum of the sum of (i) the remaining payments of Base Salary
          described in Section 5(a) that would have been payable to Executive
          through the date of death and (ii) a pro-rata portion of the Target
          Bonus for the year in which his death occurs plus the Target Bonus for
          the preceding year if his death occurs after year-end but before such
          bonuses are paid. Any options or restricted stock held by Executive on
          the date of termination shall vest only through the date of
          termination according to the normal vesting schedule applicable to
          such options or restricted stock, and Executive shall not receive any
          accelerated or additional vesting of such stock or options on or after
          such date.

             (c) In the event that Executive is terminated by the Company
          without Just Cause (and other than upon death, expiration of the Term,
          disability or a Control Termination) or by Executive With Reason, then
          the Company shall pay Executive (i) on a basis consistent with the
          timing of the Company's normal payroll processing, the remaining
          payments of Base Salary described in Section 5(a) that would have been
          payable to Executive through the date of his termination of
          employment, (ii) his Base Salary and Target Bonus (in the form of
          salary continuation on a pro-rata basis with or without medical and
          dental benefits, at the Executive's election and cost) for the
          12-month period following his termination of employment and (iii) a
          cash lump sum equal to a pro-rata portion of the Target Bonus for the
          year in which the date of termination occurs plus the Target Bonus for
          the preceding year if termination occurs after year-end but before
          such bonuses are paid. Any options or restricted stock held by
          Executive on the date of termination shall vest only through the date
          of termination according to the normal vesting schedule applicable to
          such options or restricted stock, and Executive

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          shall not receive any accelerated or additional vesting of such stock
          or options on or after such date.

             (d) In the event that Executive is terminated by the Company (or
          its successor) in a Control Termination as so defined, then the
          Company shall pay Executive (i) on a basis consistent with the timing
          of the Company's normal payroll processing, the remaining payments of
          Base Salary described in Section 5(a) that would have been payable to
          Executive through the date of his termination of employment, (ii) one
          and one- half time his Base Salary and one and one-half times his
          Target Bonus (in the form of salary continuation on a pro-rata basis
          with or without medical and dental benefits at the cost charged to
          active employees) for the 12-month period following his termination of
          employment and (iii) a cash lump sum equal to a pro-rata portion of
          the Target Bonus for the year in which the date of termination occurs
          plus the Target Bonus for the preceding year if termination occurs
          after year-end but before such bonuses are paid. To the extent that
          Executive is terminated in a Control Termination that occurs in
          anticipation of a Change in Control, any options or restricted stock
          held by Executive shall fully vest, retroactive to the date of
          termination, upon the occurrence of the Change in Control.

             (e) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary, in the event that
          Executive's employment terminates, the Company shall pay to Executive,
          in accordance with its standard payroll practice, Executive's accrued
          vacation.

             (f) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary, payment of severance
          under this Agreement is conditioned upon the execution by Executive of
          a separation and release agreement in a form acceptable to the Company
          and the observation of such waiting or revocation periods, if any,
          before and after execution of the agreement by Executive as are
          required by law, such as, for example, the waiting or revocation
          periods required for a waiver and release to be effective with respect
          to claims under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, provided
          that the Company delivers to Executive such agreement within seven
          days of the date of his termination.

          12. Change in Control. In the event of a Change in Control, Executive
will be entitled to the full vesting of any options and restricted stock held by
Executive on the date of such Change in Control.

          13. Character of Termination Payments. The amounts payable to
Executive upon any termination of his employment shall be considered severance
pay in consideration of past services rendered on behalf of the Company and his
continued service from the date hereof to the date he becomes entitled to such
payments and shall be the sole amount of severance pay to which Executive is
entitled from the Company and its affiliates upon termination of his employment
during the Term. Executive shall have no duty to mitigate his damages by seeking
other employment.

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          14. Representations of the Parties.

             (a) The Company represents and warrants to Executive that (i) this
          Agreement has been duly authorized, executed and delivered by the
          Company and constitutes valid and binding obligations of the Company;
          and (ii) the employment of Executive on the terms and conditions
          contained in this Agreement will not conflict with, result in a breach
          or violation of, constitute a default under, or result in the creation
          or imposition of any lien, charge or encumbrance upon any property or
          assets of the Company pursuant to: (A) the certificate of formation,
          (B) the terms of any indenture, contract, lease, mortgage, deed of
          trust, note, loan agreement or other agreement, obligation, condition,
          covenant or instrument to which the Company is a party or bound or to
          which its property is subject, or (C) any statute, law, rule,
          regulation, judgment, order or decree applicable to the Company, or
          any regulatory body, administrative agency, governmental body,
          arbitrator or other authority having jurisdiction over the Company.

             (b) Executive represents and warrants to the Company that: (i) this
          Agreement has been duly executed and delivered by Executive and
          constitutes a valid and binding obligation of Executive; and (ii)
          neither the execution of this Agreement by Executive nor his
          employment by the Company on the terms and conditions contained herein
          will conflict with, result in a breach or violation of, or constitute
          a default under any agreement, obligation, condition, covenant or
          instrument to which Executive is a party or bound or to which his
          property is subject, or any statute, law, rule, regulation, judgment,
          order or decree applicable to Executive of any court, regulatory body,
          administrative agency, governmental body, arbitrator or other
          authority having jurisdiction over Executive or any of his property.

          15. Arbitration of Disputes; Injunctive Relief.

             (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) below, any controversy or
          claim arising out of or relating to this Agreement or the breach
          thereof shall be settled by binding arbitration in the City of
          Indianapolis, Indiana, in accordance with the laws of the State of
          Indiana by three arbitrators, one of whom shall be appointed by the
          Company, one by Executive, and the third of whom shall be appointed by
          the first two arbitrators. If the first two arbitrators cannot agree
          on the appointment of a third arbitrator, then the third arbitrator
          shall be appointed by the Chief Judge of the United States District
          Court for the Southern District of Indiana. The arbitration shall be
          conducted in accordance with the rules of the American Arbitration
          Association, except with respect to the selection of arbitrators,
          which shall be as provided in this Section. Judgment upon the award
          rendered by the arbitrators may be entered in any court having
          jurisdiction thereof. Each party shall pay its own costs and expenses
          incurred in connection with the enforcement of this Agreement,
          regardless of the final outcome.

             (b) Executive acknowledges that a breach or threatened breach by
          Executive of Sections 8 or 9 of this Agreement will give rise to
          irreparable injury to the Company and that money damages will not be
          adequate relief for such injury. Notwithstanding paragraph (a) above,
          the Company and Executive agree that the Company may seek and obtain
          injunctive relief, including, without limitation, temporary
          restraining orders,

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          preliminary injunctions and/or permanent injunctions, in a court of
          proper jurisdiction to restrain or prohibit a breach or threatened
          breach of Section 8 or 9 of this Agreement. Nothing herein shall be
          construed as prohibiting the Company from pursuing any other remedies
          available to the Company for such breach or threatened breach,
          including the recovery of damages from Executive.

          16. Notices. Any notice required or permitted to be given under this
Agreement shall be sufficient if in writing and if sent by registered mail to
his residence, in the case of Executive, or to the business office of its
General Counsel, in the case of the Company.

          17. Waiver of Breach and Severability. The waiver by either party of a
breach of any provision of this Agreement by the other party shall not operate
or be construed as a waiver of any subsequent breach by either party. In the
event any provision of this Agreement is found to be invalid or unenforceable,
it may be severed from the Agreement, and the remaining provisions of the
Agreement shall continue to be binding and effective.

          18. Entire Agreement. Other than any equity award agreements entered
into pursuant to an applicable long-term incentive plan, this instrument
contains the entire agreement of the parties and, as of the Effective Date,
supersedes all other obligations of the Company and its affiliates under other
agreements or otherwise. The compensation and benefits to be paid under the
terms of this Agreement are in lieu of all other compensation or benefits to
which Executive is entitled from Conseco, the Company, and its affiliates. This
Agreement may not be changed orally, but only by an instrument in writing signed
by the party against whom enforcement of any waiver, change, modification,
extension or discharge is sought.

          19. Binding Agreement and Governing Law; Assignment Limited. This
Agreement shall be binding upon and shall inure to the benefit of the parties
and their lawful successors in interest (including, without limitation,
Executive's estate, heirs and personal representatives) and, except for issues
or matters as to which federal law is applicable, shall be construed in
accordance with and governed by the laws of the State of Indiana. This Agreement
is personal to each of the parties hereto, and neither party may assign or
delegate any of its rights or obligations hereunder without the prior written
consent of the other.

          20. Indemnification. If Executive was or is made a party or is
threatened to be made a party to or is otherwise involved (including involvement
as a witness) in any action, suit or proceeding, whether civil, criminal,
administrative or investigative (a "Proceeding"), by reason of the fact that he
or she is or was an officer or employee of the Company or any of its affiliates,
Executive shall be indemnified and held harmless by the Company to the fullest
extent authorized by the Delaware General Corporation Law, as the same exists or
may hereafter be amended (but, in the case of any such amendment, only to the
extent that such amendment permits the Company to provide broader
indemnification rights than permitted prior thereto), against all expense,
liability and loss (including attorneys' fees, judgments, fines, excise taxes or
penalties and amounts paid in settlement) reasonably incurred or suffered by
Executive in connection therewith and such indemnification shall continue as to
Executive if he ceases to be an officer or employee and shall inure to the
benefit of Executive's heirs, executors and administrators; provided, however,
that the Company shall indemnify Executive in connection with a proceeding (or
part thereof) initiated by Executive only if such Proceeding (or part thereof)
was authorized by the Board of Directors of the Company. The right to
indemnification

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conferred in this paragraph shall include the obligation of the Company to pay
the expenses incurred in defending any such proceeding in advance of its final
disposition (an "Advance of Expenses"); provided, however, that, if and to the
extent that the Delaware General Corporation Law requires, an Advance of
Expenses incurred by Executive in his capacity as an officer or employee shall
be made only upon delivery to the Company of an undertaking, by or on behalf of
Executive, to repay all amounts so advanced if it shall ultimately be determined
by final judicial decision from which there is no further right to appeal that
Executive is not entitled to be indemnified for such expenses under this
paragraph or otherwise.

          21. No Third Party Beneficiaries. The terms and provisions of this
Agreement are intended solely for the benefit of each party hereto and their
respective successors or permitted assigns, and it is not intended to confer
third-party beneficiary rights upon any other person.

          22. Counterparts. This Agreement may be executed in counterparts, each
of which shall be deemed to be an original, but all of which together shall
constitute one and the same instrument.

          IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have executed this Agreement as of the
date first above written, effective as of the Effective Date.


                                    COMPANY:
                                    CONSECO SERVICES, LLC

                                    /s/Daniel J. Murphy
                                    ------------------------------------
                                    Daniel J. Murphy
                                    President


                                    EXECUTIVE:

                                    /s/Chris Nickele
                                    ------------------------------------
                                    Chris Nickele










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                                    Exhibit A
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                                       to
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   Employment Agreement dated September 8, 2005 between Conseco Services, LLC
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                                and Chris Nickele
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