David Strauss - Barclay - Equity Analyst
I guess going back on this cash flow build up. I guess do you have any target for the combined company from a capex standpoint? I think, you know, Hexcel running around 6% of sales and Woodward closer to 3. Is it right to think it’s going be below the average of the two, the combined company?
Nick Stanage - Hexcel Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO
David, as I think you know, both Woodward and Hexcel have just gone through very large capex investment to facilitate, to support the growth in the marketplace on the refresh, on composites, the new market positions that were one with respect to controls. And we’ve gone through that investment cycle. So with respect to the percentages, again we haven’t provided guidance for 2020 yet, but as we indicated earlier, our capex spend will be going down, and it will be dependent on new opportunities and new applications that we can identify.
Tom Gendron - Woodward, Inc. - Chairman, CEO & President
And at our investor day in December, for those that attended, you also saw that we highlighted that we will be coming down to a lower capex over the next five years, more in line with maintenance, and that, as Nick pointed out, because we made strong capital investments to support future growth. And you know we feel like in this return cycle, because we both have invested heavily, and that’s part of the cash story.
David Strauss - Barclay - Equity Analyst
Okay.And then from a revenue synergies standpoint, you know on the aerospace side, is the nearest term opportunity you feel like on the engine side from a revenue synergies standpoint?
Tom Gendron - Woodward, Inc. - Chairman, CEO & President
I think when we look at the revenue synergies, the first is that we do I really believe have some channel synergies. Hexcel has a tremendous aerospace salesforce in Europe and great relationships. We are confident we are going to be able to leverage those into near term sales. And there is a demand in the market to do upgrades to the current aircraft, the current aircraft manufacturers are looking to get costs out. They’re looking at, you know, upgrades, improvements, some derivative activity. So we think we’re going to be able to pull sales through there. You know, midterm, when we go into whether it’s an engine manufacturer or an aerospace manufacturer, we believe we can package solutions together and bring some value to our customers. Longer term, we’re going to bring new revolutionary technologies and integration, especially around aerodynamics and propulsion efficiency. And we think through that, we are going to have growth across the near-,mid-, and long-term and we do believe we can leverage each other’s sales channels to drive growth.
David Strauss - Barclay - Equity Analyst
Okay, thanks. And the last one from me, on the MAX, have you – I guess for either one of you – have you heard from whether it be Boeing or CFM, how this is going to come through and essentially impact you guys. It’s going to be the pause I’m speaking of. Would you expect the pause – either one of you expect the pause – or come down pretty meaningful in terms of rate in the near term?
Tom Gendron - Woodward, Inc. - Chairman, CEO & President
I think we really have to wait to see Boeing’s announcements on their plans and then we’ll be able to respond at that time.
Nick Stanage - Hexcel Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO
Yeah, I would just say obviously we’re looking at scenarios and it’s being evaluated - not only Boeing’s build plan and estimated return to service but also the response and effects in the supply chain.