United Airlines (UAL) 18 Oct 232023 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Kristina Munoz	executive
Scott Kirby	executive
Brett Hart	executive
Andrew Nocella	executive
Michael Leskinen	executive
Jamie Baker	analyst
Michael Linenberg	analyst
Conor Cunningham	analyst
Catherine O'Brien	analyst
Ravi Shanker	analyst
Scott Group	analyst
Duane Pfennigwerth	analyst
Helane Becker	analyst
Brandon Oglenski	analyst
Toby Enqvist	executive

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the United Airlines Holdings Earnings Conference Call for the Third Quarter 2023. My name is Silos, and I will be your conference facilitator today.

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Brett Hart

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Andrew Nocella

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Kristina Munoz

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Operator

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Operator

Michael Bank. next from Linenberg Our Deutsche question comes from

Michael Linenberg

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Andrew Nocella

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Scott Kirby

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Michael Linenberg

follow-up. one And Okay. Great. just quick

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Scott Kirby

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Operator

Conor from question Research. Next with Cunningham Melius

Conor Cunningham

I'm of understand you when and realize ease some between I of now, be That that trends cost that how laid the up hard you frame cost. core potential these tell supply would you've kind probably just trying really next issues transitory impacting. cost Just on your just performance to to these pressures chain year. think out but it's helpful. transitory could may right are

Michael Leskinen

Mike. this Conor, is

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Conor Cunningham

so maybe new lot cost your then And somewhat capacity-related helpful. it's of on seems super year That's a -- next like Okay. related. a little delivery of -- just delivery stuff or bit kind

slowed of is So as be next have you I'm of swing protect you to year could if trying able result may some growth capacity -- that may you -- delivery a that just there understand these swing excess to could any some be that that of that maybe capacity delays. have

Michael Leskinen

the the from some but We're much results constraints, quite commercial the around constraints. in add You're around pressure way. profitable, need are -- we -- our of do incremental the But folks flights as the on to do you The the actually United thinking maximize -- face those can we being we hire going of it about the are team. given great right to working from profitability, key we to ASM. fly all to is you before as key board growing given

away Next to a And long to optimize to executing work United a go as United the would headwind as that's going rate. we're that but fully you return that, slower doesn't We're until so we faces strategy. on -- growth

Operator

comes Our from with Goldman next question Catherine O'Brien Sachs.

Catherine O'Brien

there release And called in that? passengers? you out up can economy what Is congrats, the Is into basic Mike that you element? just the also domestic a Andrew, XX% Kristina. up I XX% significantly? noticed year-over-year. drove and of dig Is was pricing that

Andrew Nocella

demand. in surge the facing year, Last question. good a It's

we is all more too engaged our implementing Just plans, Next not of and closer maybe and the we much didn't smaller sell to this year, passengers soon. we are out and for it sold get were room to out careful too simplest soon United say way with to have appropriate as basic these we

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out do we in the future, this able room continue going in accommodate did unlike were a that sell and the all just gauge because And But of this, past. have booking in to be new curve the forward. those we to because we aircraft for we'll to soon we normal say passengers too we we coming with able didn't because have plenty quarter,

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Catherine O'Brien

the on That's delivery great. delays just maybe And continued seeing. one -- Mike, a then delivery for we're follow-up

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Michael Leskinen

them, Thanks workforce more we they for don't manage that delivered our versus that bigger the can appropriately, That for can size for us. the is business expected needed we the do headwind what when the we aircraft that question, contractual is and weren't come, is Katy. we deliveries hire the deliveries

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so manage little are we've the delays should we that. from based the can timing predictable. got chain, But the bit understand a job that levers on of do a better and And supply to delays numerous optimizing more we becoming

Operator

question with Ravi next comes from Morgan Stanley. Our Shanker

Ravi Shanker

thing an of be may deeper to the so cater kind the market. strategy broad the go dig on product why trying us try your of And commentary airline. of which than to it maybe end. But some obviously, after wanted low to kind everything that given get of the with we're to cater I peers little everyone than face to need rather -- have, all network totally specializing just push into about of pushing to you of the kind I just you just into know a everyone of kind premium up the like customers, I of feels wanted a kind full-service to of get into being seeing easier and to earlier just base to being follow premier or network the

Andrew Nocella

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to trying I that set know customers for trying customers We're that to recipe. United diverse sounds our they market know it -- of complicated, be choices that have for on product It's And not are is range is to make that going people. to what -- they're all wants. fly sure trip the want. we take all it things the what a journey. particular So It of the our secret but others I streams revenue

Scott Kirby

it complicated. more -- as it say would I And is

can airline are to be is to the niche. the number that try going But simpler player exist to that low-cost you only low-fare, that markets exist premium It's a Is The to can right. small. one you of that number be of niches commoditized you're You're only markets only even smaller. -- a appeal

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Ravi Shanker

color. confident going maybe I that at if What now, follow-up, earlier. quick as potentially visibility. apologies that XXXX, about specifically summer be Kind a had of do as Are some you That's said right missed the into you would say XXXX bigger of and think this transatlantic. well? international being of us you that very I you strength peak of speculation helpful XXXX in would and And see in is enough kind There runway? coming to out a kind XXXX? peak the of can that, that lot continue

Andrew Nocella

particularly I strength Europe, now, today, changes, great to by say we right I'd to particularly tell industry see does to across of it for and that's Well, continue Southern see. Atlantic. see example, all the our can We

said, will continue. growth year no lot run since a I my this Atlantic. to year, the We've we capacity So the being to we that a And think the be for earlier say in XXXX across that a did give are comments trends are sure. Atlantic going rest. it That going of basically

airline. I big that's big guidance, said give but a for going of to clearly, I capacity wasn't the part a hint

however, see So we're strong. is, Asia. our last And is going part the is Asia gigantic you at our sorry, want change that opportunity. where see recover And is very you it, other And schedules Mike. growth, into a capacity of in at a see world efforts to said I've the in like the focus going to front. We're of Asia. still; our if fact, we on we growing the percent can next capacity profitability And year, the look where that look you thing lot to

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business gateways where leading demand We leading full to United, right have we're that the hubs, And it. we demand. take is have going cargo leading demand, unique leisure advantage recipe the the right the and of to and just

Michael Leskinen

constraints I the -- an aircraft. spoke true the to And an that's question than I question to nowhere capacity. spoke around for to earlier industry more there's around earlier wide-body

to In best the Andrew but addition of that, any United the as alluded emphasize, I'll we have just gateways international to, leaving States carrier.

base, is so that. where, And we born Andrew to as on going on this we're and capitalize says, third were

Operator

Our Wolfe comes Scott question Research. with next from Group

Scott Group

inevitable half to you the second And wondering be -- I'm the you by expect what next So are going just Scott, -- of I yes, just sorry. yesterday, something about ahead, when are are cuts said second about go talking them you there half Are you 'XX. year? adjustments bigger by I that guess than then that? capacity and talking

Scott Kirby

industry. the I'd commodity. call. what in earlier today's at air to is here's exact a been think predict a I've what I going the structural but be, you changes know this in I And change the structural are don't hinted Well, There's changes, travel say.

it the of is, think I not. industry do Some

we've experience on improving service that for product been customers. doing the years focused been has Everything X think in I matters. our last

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dynamics the I completely changed think that have that things done there's X competitive we there. have

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Scott Group

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Scott Kirby

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gone year improved is they've during direction, thing one that's product. gauge But started the changed in we've while other so get to finally right. And other really the last the the gone we with an

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Operator

comes Our Evercore from question from ISI. Pfennigwerth next Duane

Duane Pfennigwerth

to the on was Congrats queue. you so I'm interesting. Basic here. pile I the the Economy, kidding. I don't did back up congratulate going want promotion, but of step was on, in I'm on to Mike, given just far the No, disclosure on think kind but I

function is simply You growth out of XX% called kind a that inventory of availability.

last and year year, time drive this tight we can -- they're that So things were so growth. really can a we bit looser this so

And an environment, customers depending also stat. XX% was the interesting I guess, that of upon

of on the that metaphor, United availability of turn maybe multiple kind inventory you of could can a Spirit United probably kind half as inventory? to to just you there. back maybe driver but guessing you So of dials pushed I'm and within Spirit you inventory Airlines Airlines maybe have speak within kind

Andrew Nocella

to I year, smaller we'll wanted save last probably execute. just say be conversation, What way more is that the honest. couldn't to we execute we Well, comps would for the a

is said And it's into to as so change a small going I lean off it base, it. and earlier, big meaningful we're percentage, a but a it creates

these we're in less. to more future, not and competitive coming, big have going be aircraft We the

Operator

for standing you Thank by.

conference. live are again now the to We

Kristina Munoz

back we Are online?

Operator

we online. are back now Yes,

Kristina Munoz

pass analyst, is you Helane the from it Can on to which Cowen? next

Operator

Absolutely, Helane Cowen. TD from Becker

You unmuted. are

Helane Becker

Kristina, congratulations.

was seemed Mike in the -- I you question. quoted coming. And article, here's was to knew so Given my it I

that for issues, capture should New to have infrastructure years. York increased think all demand. to persist gauge, things? area are fact about several to want ticket capture that we You these the As X there's about going the think then prices. we a especially the How you higher I point But obviously, in where

the spot ticket you margins? both, improve capacity benefit where you so aircraft limitations can can what's from sweet and prices raise do you higher that where with So

Scott Kirby

customers. York is Helane, And have a We decade. the New good than And schedule a to been experience reason not it different they airports a think handle. Jersey prism. a New to and the more flight experience core about want there we our through provide good could are for have

and that realistic grateful customers on it and air is FAA starting number airport control -- for particularly the listening with we -- doing airports, are traffic flights that. number think have follow a very a or at those to handling capacity, for through the to everyone, we're win We the of

to upgauging. we and serve as we're as so we anxious customers can, And many are

providing So we're seats more We seats. fewer upgauging. as we're providing of more but number flights

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Helane Becker

This right? of have the have and is had been same is revenue higher flights, would amount but had you more I existed lower the not and infrastructure Is what the that So would right? costs, conclusion revenue. have issue costs way, have you you that should it the that flew

Scott Kirby

know don't experience going better I'd detail I is in get for of spreadsheet. have your a you that have What level to customers. kind of much I think that into we're

think I we fewer irregular have inflation. for -- and and growing that operations, with certainly from because to don't lower associated bigger will lot we'll I have have Be because from keep we our we all we'll we'll will don't costs airplanes. have and disruption profitable And the probably frustration that comes think that better prices customers, inline more have be with the expenses a customers.

where this it's of a few win-win-win think is situations those one for I everyone.

Michael Leskinen

is with airport operations. a cost with of to is control, -- a that. can into appropriately, do better we And from with that the system surprises what us. air built control perspective thing worst irregular buffers lots capacity better lot for That's The traffic more a We optimization.

Operator

comes Our from from question next Barclays. Brandon Oglenski

Brandon Oglenski

Congrats, Mike and Kristina.

can it's I to you want not XXXX, get a mentioned I here. but long know also more domestic one just I But been in into got you're call. capacity, So technically know I Andrew, think you should prepared but your that? half that. much the the in maybe And driving of in we clarify pretty remarks, think, first about I being it believe year, flat, what's

next know upgauge want you strategy, to did I under domestically. your Because

So are concert mean, you I pilots, this OEM that's that? seeing delivery expectations, what commercial? with in driving

Andrew Nocella

We're putting our together. plan still

and I have remarks our -- focus. I words, would overseas that low efforts that really it's growth -- in to that's we're exact on focused really So at on into did Look, going Pacific, we're and point. so in say -- we want commercial say type particular, but well Pacific But just capacity, execute my I forgot prepared the slow of my final. don't domestically. executing South where the opinion, across to this And are and the our in

said, few there are As Mike a constraints.

and think leads outcome issues the we all our right for that early we'll outcome. to of next a And OEM in say And it's for lot year. to capacity that have more We XXXX. have kind

Operator

portion the switch Leslie We CNBC. the will to [Operator of Instructions] call. from Josephs now media

Leslie Josephs

supply changes last wondering seeing made many if just context if how kind -- since seen those month? I And push can also upgrading then are and on how of the when your things you about are behind you talk you a little was currently and Delta you've catch put requests those premium, on Status for into chain matches expect cabins to you bit up. you to far

Andrew Nocella

give commentary. I'll little a Sure. bit Look, of

dramatically Our status matches Yes. dramatically? a big number? up Is No.

pass So over who I'll facing And some that but say constraints, that's the for program that we that Toby, definitely and terms I'll interiors, us signature runs us in front. will know. are all of let on to he

Toby Enqvist

Thank Andrew. you,

the that deliveries. new I year think we're is But taking we're still about good news in behind. a

bags which for for for space there flying so interior is right the has release, operational about really good really which now XXX and great as just we're us airplanes well design have is gotten bag out. that because new So each come no passenger, X

that's the probably thing. biggest So

So XXX% now, we're be XXXX completed. to I think right targeting for

Scott Kirby

this one opportunity as XXXX United tough believe pandemic going was thought future. once-in-history Well, and back that of the that the to right, We got I'd in demand invest as in was recovery the full to be things that us. is and just a it another prepared get believe represented add that there a for

the things get So X was more the we space. we built of curve, of club ahead did

So that our one largest customers. we than the we Newark. system now the did great are XX% just more in clubs -- our in have for one we opened in club pandemic. space entire Denver, is X awesome, Feedback before And

number seats we So of we that. signature the that had while premium pre-pandemic. for behind, the today plan we have close to are interiors double And ahead

So our is to the this. that's summer And team reason the need started change in do and programs the we're that said Andrew premium in demand. remarks, to XXXX for of a recovery his anything for prepared in don't prepare because this back we

Leslie Josephs

of basic just are XX%, they're now? Okay. is wasn't the -- and on buying customers revenue spectrum Or price-sensitive that the I And of what other Economy, more sure end with Basic percentage your economy.

Andrew Nocella

describe aircraft more quarters able the passengers I we that share say, previous I I are would all years, accommodate likely fair and beginning, and a of of didn't passenger it share the but lot in lot we happened. different we have as And to more flexibility, it amount large we're types accommodate would and those now product just adequately. shift. Leslie, And probably the a think and to shift gauge a have range types

Operator

Moving to Schlangenstein News. the caller, next Mary Bloomberg from

Mary Schlangenstein

any whether in to areas And you ask be to you to wanted I about to over or Europe flights serve? because already that's are you the perhaps and cancel that where other may you other Israel. other And that of spread if areas you're some might away of cities to have poking where more seeing countries that worries. situation even to potential assessing shifted for people

Scott Kirby

at all. We're not seeing that

Operator

Bachman Justin next Moving Messenger. to our caller from the

Justin Bachman

I a was if the where industry American we landscape bit there? just many of that hoping And point to that see elaborate a situation facing far every I they too what expand that you on other wanted suggests where does is for to more wanted there rest on the as able suggest might to niche you could where be fly or just I airlines go back over out are -- what Scott's become that, to as about and changing. industry players, Delta smaller, if time. the to United, chooses do

Scott Kirby

to proving fail. going think product will about of going the in I And if that, it to customers but service. because don't invest that suggest you're are quality what succeed services. are And that, and do and that, I product is think quality, I don't care airlines we think you

Michael Leskinen

as I'm a And to Justin, this customers cost provide a to incremental ULCCs is better well. able point right? At we point, product. we're at seats has What and changed to this on with going is in provide that jump our the convergence, price competitive

product are at to so getting And similar and a fly started. we a customers are choosing just better price

Justin Bachman

what the been? understand trends does just X X, fully years, if if movie that. Right. continue those I No, continue that suggest in thinking, don't for have competitive that as you out, play and things landscape I'm they X,

Michael Leskinen

those for question a not for us. That's airlines,

Operator

Edwards back over Kristina I will now closing turn the remarks. to call for

Kristina Munoz

have you for and the Please next Investor we contact if talking Thanks and to joining call you any Media questions, Relations further quarter. forward to today. look

Operator

This today's now concludes all. disconnect. you may you Thank conference, and

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