PEGA - Earnings call transcript Q2 2021

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Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Pegasystems Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Results Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ken Stillwell, Chief Operations Officer and CFO. Please go ahead.

Ken Stillwell

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Alan Trefler

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Ken Stillwell

Alan. Thanks,

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Operator

[Operator Instructions] First, to Chris we'll from Goldman go Merwin Sachs.

open. is line Your

Kevin Kumar

the partner is This Kevin a Chris. question on had on channel. for I

early engagement? signs Thanks. Given seeing any partners, the your you you've improvement you had of with several changes collaborate way in are that in

Alan Trefler

Alan. is this Yes,

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Kevin Kumar

types with great Curious then segment? to of about see customers? Great. that deal for are CRM side ACV of been one And cases in business, you the me. kind activity your is maybe how accelerate. of more the use seeing It's What growth

Alan Trefler

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Operator

Needham. And next, go from Andrews Jack to we'll

open. is line Your

Jack Andrews

you seeing workflow drill if front? renewed your interest remarks. was into ask, could prepared of I cases types are mentioned customer interest in want Alan, curious what in you you that on I specific to use in

Alan Trefler

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Jack Andrews

Appreciate productivity that. And and throughout the to things And update us year? metrics could in just hiring hiring expect like for you of in just any how unfold of as terms year? of a plans that? should the balance follow-up the your question, And we terms

Alan Trefler

to it is the upcoming turn some not you the do year next cetera. you for given So about Well, numbers I'll half, et be for being until you as second into right? the anything you Ken you be on-boarding, are Ken, comment. seen about the I'll hiring numbers. But over we productivity do going -- how improving don't just enter do a look? as in to is certainly, just to comment ones, really, productivity year, we honest, nature think to going staff get time the of those want to

Ken Stillwell

Yes, sure.

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well, thoughtful kind COVID back was of less growth out the of of actually So just quarter little to we up even that of the because probably the next this I be year. do lingering really into still That's on that economy just there. said, were hires active. would a have a -- we really little year, impact chance very a year we're competitive rate year about it more, a bit end in that to -- this really we Alan quarter are whether certainly, And hires like hire the bit. in market little than And first is it's XXXX. But the hiring for bring clients say, a achieve are because a might our starting holding we the that by

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for probably year. kind short a the of little XX% of number, So think of that

Operator

go we'll to Murphy next, And from JPMorgan. Mark

Your line is open.

Mark Murphy

For would your in sit business in you I'm developers of are might the could users that or on scale that look mix side interested business seats you kind of adoption just you versus how whether in just understand just metrics than Pega side? have instance, the provide us IT Yes, many rather very you many of does you much. say how help any do thank market? low-code think the you that on that side like And for on seats the in IT that what side? the sitting terms they have

Alan Trefler

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Mark Murphy

on Alan. Thank from engagement interesting. that customer following very you Merwin Okay, team. up question Chris segment, on -- for The that also the

economy best what support, customer growth trying -- I'm in just here? getting the trying where to I'm prioritized action Would in see the the or in that more sales as the strongest did automation the is reopens the does piece and other piece? factors think understand momentum more next building starts I to service and cross-sell, QX? the you be understand

Alan Trefler

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Mark Murphy

Okay, had for understood. And quick a then I one final Ken. just

I spoke the you it's of kind QX. to kind -- of in -- deal the you mega that think ended

the almost a so Can when at that can line, helps are driving many license distinct of line gone much understand you deals -- of help like bit so it maybe magnitude understand in if us it look The show might upside us looked beyond have we that. upside, it you the full And how volatility. that term -- will? why license that kind term

Ken Stillwell

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you expectation more. of as the -- deal this think thought I terms QX the big sell-side think line was occur kind speak. was there so like probably It target, about on what might of more plus two than we of to don't in than maybe So that a more lesser term

Operator

Rishi go to from RBC. next, And we'll Jaluria

Your line is open.

Rishi Jaluria

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Ken Stillwell

Yes.

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Rishi Jaluria

to ACV mark motion map that it consistently ambitions get No, what reacceleration that further I of those better you're of makes to currency ACV had a still the about progress Can ecosystem? there. And some improvement been but on talk sales what the including the leveraging above looks like? partner imagine from of see in up Great. kind initiatives, following you and And last Okay. to sort maybe tick on drive then up accelerated get the constant on point pretty or have XX% totally seeing from road nice I to line, up growth basis just two not quarter. a understand. that see back to that it's you sense. it

Ken Stillwell

color to Alan, Well, feel any and to piece I'll take add free here. one that

say, 'XX, of of XX% and we year, So growth ACV at about kind even in our absolutely XX% think expecting you the terms constant number. are hopefully to of this XXXX 'XX, currency 'XX, north if that versus, difference stay

our that's hope the and So expectation our year. for certainly

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Rishi Jaluria

Got it.

Okay.

Alan Trefler

to Just add color future. bit little a to of the

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Rishi Jaluria

and but going Yes. it. wanted question. off, I'll to Got helpful. That's the one And back maybe last hop to hiring think

and deliberate in we a hear getting a bit little if hiring of companies in put about if panned and those if to have or correctly, out? talk many right you're talking sort that wanted pandemic, a to slow lot labor advantage companies to And down the made leaves recall Maybe relative on April we of in you of hiring and take bit perspective? of you how the maybe kind put a you freeze hires the in a the talent. you back take hiring to of from difficulty Can on depths about software -- kind like that right, of So May, freeze, some talk this land, had I software to not decision keep environment. seeing of what hiring can about to you position had? little not what shortages And

Alan Trefler

of that So us look, places affects a a hiring in I -- variety and ways. of in the variety think

we cetera. years together I able put believe products four to newer to which be product of exciting talked loved to announced Project been for were very were about next we've the just I talking go-to-market, of I we like of those And exactly what in terms a new on concepts, highly working digital being From PegaWorld us about the we over think of you prospects other of PegaWorld. Pega time et and a If seeing, point at have is, view, able a advanced with team some to systems spent years. that the both about will motion And being can our sorts fabric we're we concepts UI Phoenix, continued this state-of-the-art more we're able able doing a website. is idea experience as had non-Pega on processes the work and across in X.X ago to of we settings, that what and I show target. have interweave the some and love to believe, seen systems, API including continuation what exciting of And in have ways. we the that work process real

I right culture to think bring on, being our all people tremendous studies product, go-to-market. being are that able to you'll overall the hear case grow being the just able and some empowered the by

the pretty feeling good board. I'm So across

Operator

Nikko. And we'll to go from Steve next, SMBC Koenig

open. is Your line

Steve Koenig

Thank question. a one gentlemen. Ken for you. multipart got then I've for Alan, and one Hi,

like bit looked Ken, talked quarter about the renewal. term So a taking what the out you big little

heard in it duration, some any And ones was about sequentially, color give conversions your then can wasn't the driven I that you in cloud term quarter a us quarter. other. have to cloud? mix ago I on by big Cloud for we any Alan. strong one year got think ex and business So you renewal,

Alan Trefler

sure, Steve. Yes,

little slightly new over it commitments. -- a client So Cloud was of was XX% Pega a

of if kind ACV look you that can at You sequential see the growth.

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Alan Trefler

positioning come in renewal, in expected might have substantial but a little not a big earlier companies that Steve, reflection I you would at up in world, year a to defend was against competitors this This with I and one renewal than we a is top in guarantee feel calling And the did meaningful lump, understatement. very deciding Pega. important competitive that biggest our line a need that ended the very, very very much one as they deal that's the were the major most that in of of

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Steve Koenig

helpful. two Very for topics Alan, then, And Very Alan. helpful. it. related. be might that you Got maybe Thanks

about integration, talk them about So When they as talk learning. both. about competitors workflow machine automation, they about we ask I'll talk or, talk work you say, due,

technology and leading decisioning. have automation edge is You guys that for

to application you ecosystem would be interesting. of some your enabled that related that kind be there? as some thoughts be I IDE of kind talk client in directions your ask kind at you kind And Can could I'll looking or about your about ecosystem, are about really marketplace? of don't that, on And thinking by then multi-tenant you You stuff you building development, what what's much us there any things Any Are integration. -- your headed of just wonder or give enabled current with that an FNX. color approach? other by FNX stick of would terms would

Alan Trefler

Sure.

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Ours model. the is of really part Pega

we're think mention maybe should we Steve. enough don't getting it so And I credit it. more, for

Operator

And next, we'll go JMP Walravens to from Pat Securities.

open. line is Your

Pat Walravens

congratulations. Great. me my And add let

ACV a to it get you point are at? Ken, sort be want constant if it -- So want sales still right? team growth that things below way two of And basis, the humming can the currency is to you you on XX%, So to it the be? the one what not, is top or

Ken Stillwell

humming because I to and terms ACV of be. it it sales want not to marketing our first is Well, sales growth call in are compared wouldn't not we productivity of -- off, where course, we expense our

right? celebrate -- was know say So QX I quite and seconds you quarters, frankly. but team in exactly performed quarter, well start of XX you for with sales it definitely be I mean then think the regions, I in do our all would a strong QX very next quarter sales you I team, our I humming. should think they not is our would for how it's say

So good but I one sign. it's definitely quarter, good sign. a exactly That's think

that see very about the been brought to in that I we meaningful and north a potential earlier. turn that the I the I'm certainly Alan excited way. mean mentioned have Hayden talent promising, think that is team really that in has and

So Hayden. I'm the than sales our been. That marketing I now would happy I have is said, no, spend with not say more and productivity nor optimistic from

to work So do we have -- we certainly have there.

Pat Walravens

you're for one. and guidance, That's and super billion and $X.XX this you guys But if already -- update I the helpful. in the the year. $X.XX half but don't of is And I -- first know just don't your $X.XX at you can year this then know address

So of to any about and think big picture thoughts year? you can QX share how with this the in terms

Ken Stillwell

or had the the would is revenue in say it being so recognized have where of year does it periods later one right? having deal revenue in But I year recognized in later otherwise that we later of and half. change size EPS certainly would thing between the Well, that model, second theoretically and distribution first necessarily have certainly been the doesn't in a change the QX a

what about. take and you little think then you bit deal almost a that So can that out see

do would thinking If Steve. that You business naturally, there have kind not, revenue meaningful or that revenues I is Pat, know of when that. when that mean, have we that whether variability but my certainly there's different, we what impacts we're a on is to was that's we recorded with kind was not reevaluate and materially mean, XXX, if EPS. something some I naturally, of recorded

I or to -- think quarter like biggest make something, sure right? mistakes conclusion. can people So probably that that's wouldn't not -- I extrapolating that people year It's don't where one half the of make and is one at or a I'd a the jump looking then just like message Starbucks to

Alan Trefler

you're word like struggling almost it's normally. which Ken, I

Ken Stillwell

yes, This is was word. a fair -- lumpy

that got you we remember think got just I just to to and -- -- that. So

Alan Trefler

at good had small it size, $XX a typical in or deal more But if would million nice. quarter Even anyway. come been the is the have

this we'd was right of think we're kind QX business did of anything, trend. to I considering away carried is hit our And done. getting not the hold quarter in that. do one original this customer about was about getting year We when serve some If that positive or was we feel likely a things it. this coming I to year Ken So it about absolutely in thrilled in it and just planning, with know come that

Operator

And next, Kim we'll Yun go Loop to Capital Markets. from

is line open. Your

Yun Kim

it quickly? What client not just that would for possible question that it up Cloud not stuff on earlier just Cloud, the it like old for cloud? falling? a converting cloud question customer conversion client you it is start take been Can Is to just Steve's has So about to why Pega Domino's customers almost where about talk and get where you seems happening and to this following we have stuff call. Pega on Pega every the new both deploy architecture, keep more

Alan Trefler

we on Pega Pega clients in bringing instances have or of lots sort more who moved mentality up Absolutely, cloud our begun have of of and client traditional even customers a pre-cloud who Cloud. have

absolutely of So they're not bang not mutually thing. exclusive. a It's sort big

a that think And sales our the just encouraging I get maniacally or in tell some I almost, it. internal clients. a move either Pega teams to to -- a credit Client sell for Cloud to some so Cloud, to whether think that's better cloud, they base cases, new their extreme better or we're retention you look our that that's can to have truth way our new rates, it's value. companies more provide to I think just base, is given existing really

other in So convert see sort let's I've a places. lot about, of base we, unlike companies out read there of whole a, which that other have do hey, just the strategy, I don't

going to long-term clients value that's more I for ultimately, for think our customers. add our and

Ken Stillwell

SaaS companies subscription through the just There's solution. we're and because reinforce a transition, I and a not misunderstanding that out time solution. many legacy right? Cloud same companies Client That's Pega to that the stop you the And It's stuff went this. you to is on-premise the that doing. not is the good in new like so stuff, other think there probably this have your stuff what is supporting is everybody stuff move old Cloud and old

the transformation clients old that that case all QX relationship we like state-of-the-art had well. a a years that talked deal That's will that to that move, expansion just expanded And new, that, a on an the on as revenue, but some solution. so few they want client expanding deal, the ago use digital is about modern in wasn't

state-of-the-art old old stuff that past, valuable. new client I not do on have that versions on that and the and maintenance we think So the cloud. client on perpetual there's And cloud with licenses are lots some is clients clients of have Pega a although and misunderstanding legacy from versions in

Yun Kim

Got you.

helps, I that think Ken. really

housekeeping partner ramping, existing So kind are just terms in am and increase? ecosystem of What new maybe Now with I you seeing of new question. you're assuming the of kind some a customer mix? mix customer seeing maybe

Ken Stillwell

and clients expect the is of that Not XX% base, not we our our majority over with. an coming have yet, that bookings impact people in year, this bit kind of done still of be it you have would COVID interacting still way from a than installed been. live stay business bit kind existing that until we from our for with still but activity units to of the of would we kind We have are still right of a expect out more you And to kind selling, now. little business future, virtual little

Yun Kim

you, then great. Okay, for And last Ken. question

trends For can just Pega deal kind Cloud, you about that of size? around talk seeing you're the any

Ken Stillwell

suggest and pretty there's duration moving that are and I anything that way. either would I've sizes deal deal pretty are No, Deal consistent. dramatic sizes direction in that noticeable wouldn't durations consistent. seen we're say contract some

Operator

Schappel Mark to go we'll next, And Benchmark. from

open. Your line is

Mark Schappel

my for question. you Thank taking

you. Alan, here, question for one Just

business. good Your government your coming up is a federal September quarter for usually quarter

additional You you just years FedRAMP, federal is the got wondering if you your FedRAMP a just how on of think us could some give business And certification couple color some ago. progressing?

Alan Trefler

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just not around that FedRAMP we're I So successes having. think the

of look doing of really, of it's years really out all some at we too of advance We we've ago software. agencies of and worked announce the that got the the domain, some with to the much know how played that pieces a success. out. a if work may have those frankly, there lot very And of like, been them a heard the to that very, guys think being lot of you that I'm tight it's you in which it's all public that domain. with, And now a won happy in in our with deemed a couple we're competition. census websites. I way out thrilled we've they're federal potential, of the But IRS, don't public were rolled tend some which and

can need. than to think have little a else. government, that arm and that much businesses, the trickier be continue always to just whole And to governments predict. there's to anywhere government so I they So hard timing But those be modernize it continue, know strong in is the going as think, is I to extremely

really business. we're excited So, about that

Operator

And this we have no at time. further questions

Alan Trefler

on one were don't with Ken's I I to want to thunder. wild ride be tell the very XXth head want on that's I And we the my as into is this earnings great Well, excited you, a and will phases the because a transition. steal this to you, that have extremely have numbing that do I earnings very, to you've announcement move And thing is to we to do just a markets different company wrap. mind going to privilege I done. I'm acknowledge in Ken, this, share will final this cloud -- begin of from you shape of congratulate to it's as XXXth that we the been call.

up got your terrific your live to are about potential some those a good desires, you working that cases, hard to what's we to journey. very we've so, that's to us want that in all for, guys know thankful been all and to and to part of realize of I'm who've you And I investors is. excited expectations with along and very pretty a team

So looking Thank we're the to your getting you you. behalf. And with say for soon. let back XXX thank forward you work me to on to that, calls. Talk all

Operator

And for your Thank that for call our participation. does conclude you today.

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Pegasystems (PEGA) 29 Jul 212021 Q2 Earnings call transcript