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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the F5 Networks Third Quarter Fiscal 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Also, today's conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, please disconnect at this time.

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Suzanne DuLong

Pelzer, call. FX's welcome. answer President Q&A of Frank on President today's I'm the prepared and to members executive be Vice CFO, and Executive of will and portion Suzanne and call. FX's Hello hand remarks Locoh-Donou, team the DuLong, President are questions making on Vice during Francois Investor CEO; the of Other FX's FX Relations. also

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Francois Locoh-Donou

Thank for results drivers us joining quarter's you everyone. today. briefly afternoon, review good over handing before business and to to detail. talk Suzanne, our you, Frank Thank in the I'll to

and flexible recently, customers to reprioritize integration the resources a seeing strategy the transitioning of a to efforts acquisition model. aggressively most new introduction consumption software-driven and From to our to our FX. development execute models, of continue of new, are NGINX, We our FX

are transition accelerating We believe product growth. changes revenue a taken business while deliberate the very to driving our software-driven we have go-to-market including overall steps

no a is ADC to it view of lens longer traditional through player. the result, narrow accurate a As FX

growth software NGINX, revenue XX% If was growth delivered and of with X% growth. product X% include organic In our total XX%. software growth quarter QX, we we partial revenue the

growth software dollar firewall, mitigation. and driven is deals. being included few multimillion security including exceptional and Our quarter The use in quarter web a cases, ELA the also application bot-defense by

growth partially down was by XX%. business, Software systems our offset was which

Our revenue in to produce gross quarter services and strong the business with delivered attach X% growth consistently continues robust margins rates.

well-positioned our continued will speak in NGINX, integration the with my evolving of and application is our on Overall, We combination exceedingly landscape. believe team to dynamics in the against capitalize business later a services growth I long-term more the remarks. to executing very NGINX rapidly strategy. are we well Frank? application

Frank Pelzer

Francois, Thank everyone. afternoon, you, and good

strong As EPS and we delivered of another noted, Francois revenue quarter growth.

and you Xth, that closed of the NGINX acquisition As we our through NGINX know, quarter-end. May QX results from point include on

to revenue QX close any related NGINX guidance reminder, results. for of set was a to our not prior include and acquisition, the As the impact earnings and accordingly NGINX' did

only, For to I this QX contribution my quarter during performance will NGINX's break metrics. out remarks several

fully Going and into guidance. results contribution will be forward, NGINX's integrated our

in million was revenue X% year-over-year. $XXX up quarter $X.X contributed period. the Third approximately million of NGINX

top our Excluding revenue NGINX's $XXX of of near guided delivered million, contribution, we million. the $XXX of range million to $XXX end

per per $X.XX non-GAAP GAAP was and was share. share, EPS EPS $X.XX

which share, X% NGINX was revenue. revenue of at EPS year-over-year product software million of QX XX% $X.XX all our total Excluding of of the contributed impact end to $X revenue million up in approximately have would the for NGINX, and been subscription revenue. of range. accounted non-GAAP per top quarter, guidance $XXX product the was

was Francois product grew QX As and revenue. approximately from represented year-over-year revenue, it of approximately software XX% XX% mentioned, product up of XX% when

sold XX% XX% quarter, uptake we annual our the had very software grew Excluding year-over-year solutions subscriptions. software and on product strong ELAs In revenue of represented NGINX, revenue. and as

XXX, ASC first impact to the under to it XXX, approach under of the compare year to our compared the quarter, been they adoption. retrospective we modified of excluding recognized in revenue, million under of have XXX what XXX would would to implementation during NGINX. been the results are have $XX resulted in more In what required Under XXX any

a I applied would everyone quarter. de models other impacted had little Therefore, ASC adoption like to quarter, in our growth of In business. revenue. perpetual one in remind almost have would quarter, on point Had about our the XXX QX by to impact are our the by been of was licenses minimis all XXX. XXXX XXX being not adoption or the our revenue the you of difference seen revenue consumption year-ago driven that

of revenue of $XXX revenue down total NGINX Services approximately up year-over-year X% XX% product year-over-year. $X.X of XX% revenue million was $XXX million approximately of XX% revenue. made services represented and quarter. in Systems grew contributed and in the million revenue

X% in XX% revenue Americas represented EMEA revenue. total up overall growth representing of for regional year-over-year revenue On of very year-over-year, in XX% basis, XX% year-over-year strong a APAC accounted revenue. and the QX, with declined was revenue. X% was of total quarter XX% of and

our vertical. providers XX%. accounted bookings represented for bookings customers by service at Enterprise and Looking product XX% of

XX%; greater Our very including Micro, which XX% Westcon, accounted Federal. than for for of XX% Tech Data, we XX%. In was product XX% revenue; QX, business from for had accounted strong, which government bookings and representing accounted distributors. which X% of U.S. total three Ingram

higher now XX.X%, in related operating software result million; on expenses higher to operating $XXX Let’s expenses of results. of our commissions as to turn GAAP sales sales. were $XXX our non-GAAP with QX GAAP were a expectations. was NGINX in gross operating million. line non-GAAP were expenses was operating the margin expectations end margin Non-GAAP XX.X%; excluding gross

was was XX.X%. in and our non-GAAP Our margin QX operating GAAP XX.X% operating margin

non-GAAP Excluding with was line NGINX, in was operating XX.X%, margin which our expectations.

the rate tax effective was GAAP Our XX.X%. for quarter

rate tax non-GAAP was XX.X%. Our effective

where cash. sales Turning proceeds sheet. generated flow from in in revenue ELAs due to the collection strength we operations, QX, including down of mainly balance recent million the cash from $XXX In the levels, to subscription

the Cash phases the end out our approached and new DSOs in for XX days. our investments at the were XXX. quarter Downtown we expenditures building quarter-end. sequentially up the million, were increased Capital of $XX facility to to totaled of little $X.XX quarter the adoption $X.XX at of billion over quarter as half facility of year-over-year Seattle billion, new the Deferred a the Hyderabad. relates XX% revenue increase prior less in than and final year

the ended approximately instead stock, continued to development. research sales, We repurchase up employees, people not including In QX, rebuild XXX our NGINX and the following QX, acquisition. areas cash our and the we addition quarter and our opting in with of growth X,XXX common reflecting hiring did of any NGINX from balance,

to during for our future generation our our strong Though a open primary window. asset opt as we focus with We strategic sheet, growth. to view cash trading shares any balance cash may repurchase continue is augmenting

NGINX let metrics reference fiscal for our me and our include XXXX. non-GAAP share that QX Unless of guidance comments Now, please operating otherwise guidance stated, my business. note

continue business market We services. transitioning and growth expect progress of will to be in driven strong increasing our growth application to make position the model. in by software-driven a our the for our confident We multi-cloud and our remain demand applications

in mind, ELA million. solutions, demand for targeting continued ‘XX $XXX offerings. to the expect revenue range are this subscription and including we $XXX software of strong also With in QX million our We

do after NGINX QX, revenue. guidance not accounting purchase We contribute write-down we expect of We to $X expect than note, impact revenue, in of million provide this less which deferred the NGINX-specific to for quarter. includes

XX% We in We as gross million operating fiscal of previously XX%. range, the will margins million. rate to to expect approximately $XXX estimate expenses our effective XX% to We remain tax XX.X% of for $XXX full QX provided the anticipate for year.

intangible $X.XX to we per in quarter, QX purchase expect of is million, approximately share. of Our $X.X target million $XX In compensation $X.XX expense share-based earnings the and amortization assets.

as complete corporate million headquarters. the buildout of to $XX CapEx QX of new we expect million We $XX our

With Francois. back will I turn that, over call the Francois? to

Francois Locoh-Donou

Frank. you, Thank

business I'll seeing the spend FX very ago. well of before the minutes we're even different integration the Q&A. a NGINX the moving on months trends to is as FX as today just XX few than in

a on out and has changes that FX strategy model. opportunities. substantially ago Since have growth deliberate A our strategy for we then, making our FX March, in laid team and transitioning executing year reshaped been the to that software-driven

brought application bot orchestration we months, a and a opportunities down WAF which services all and doubled on to resources, the for new growth consumption executed make deploy aligning by it do models last introduced and for purchase have number I two, XX solutions we ELAs market, like management, four, subscriptions have number new easier security, number What customers have, software; mean central our three, new Cloud priorities; have opened that? and reprioritization our one, of we with solutions us. that Edition in number also business wholesale mitigation; the investments to In and FX of including and like APIs, and

of As the a to a view no it is FX lens traditional player. accurate ADC through result, longer narrow

our efforts accelerated Cloud to evident in Services. and true software catalyst, NGINX in transition, FX even Our this our software before including reach is And expand it our have broaden factor role we and and future is our growth performance. becoming

kind are. a services from generating arguably of why we space, opportunity that ways. are the growth The in rapidly application Today, has a the we differs three software ADC in FX leader multi-cloud is is fundamental opportunity application and emerging an services multi-cloud space been expanding which traditional underserved,

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customer our services across Finally, with and deployment. our growth leveraging base new subscription facilitate models friction-free continue to customers procurement FX provider both consumption and enterprise software service

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IMS services. We security will and enable and for IoT services connectivity enterprise Voice-over-LTE

while build, and agility capital both deployment reduces and with solution operating Our cycles. test expenses, increasing faster service

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result software. a these are an accelerated mix in of shift product factors, As towards two seeing we our

Q&A, NGINX. we combination to Before move me to our talk let with

NGINX and particular go-to-market; have integration. will pace. one, two, the work progress plan for and on we are integration I product our audience, streams well, at the completed teams executing May With on a this in rapid highlight acquisition value together creation X, and key come two

and momentum overlay of to has First, sales NGINX’s as whom current team been an team, to the on NGINX. offerings, sales the since NGINX trained have operating close on hard FX has all been of worked maintain go-to-market.

by NetOps and are Our with ability estimate our sales and roughly and efforts. have efforts the customers, of seeing combined net We FX power the new we that joint the gap increased between pipeline resonating FX NGINX to NGINX’s sales is DevOps initiated XX%. already QX bridge

points. They during over selected for reverse governance protect and secured FX They XX for traffic an WAF a As presence. NGINX an QX, security NGINX for of and ingress provider. protection gateways, selected The service example, proxies. FX’s distributed points cloud international including city to major software-based win APAC-based with we joint API cloud micro its private customer telecommunications security a needed solution

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products FX-NGINX on Briefly integration.

the As has The Robertson. been with well Gus engineering cloud-native progress to FX very come product planned, team integration. together reporting combined and have the made development teams team, NGINX product strong and have on

priority, cloud-native and NGINX’s FX’s first teams to services converge controller the the As platform. moving are application quickly

expect the we a NGINX the fact, next within In release months. converged offering first six of FX

Super-NetOps our of controller cases We spanning broader a potential addressable the NGINX personas. NGINX will for expect and business, expanding, the converged by market customer an both DevOps FX and set deal be accelerator across size used

by FX a as addressing customers are combined NGINX we opportunities the ever In NetOps, a than are we critical are FX team. pursuing the for more Overall, enthusiastic bridging challenge near-term, about we features enabling full that DevOps infrastructure including of divide. needs. expect ease FX the modernization The management buyers, use and application the buyers to spectrum combined cover of NGINX traditional network provides

forward, means software, for ideal will Going believe customers. which lower and this for environment, agility we container-based across unparalleled increasingly components, be containerized distributed and cost into is multi-cloud smaller NGINX environment. our disaggregated true DevOps applications

with are environments. We and our these to solutions confident significant NGINX FX advantages application and cloud-native and expertise containerized bring that combined

very continue making are momentum. drive summary, pleased we we progress In are confident we we are software overall, the with and to can

have have been find One for is market delivered of and growth including our Edition. we that Cloud a from over things is largely year, the software solutions encouraging the that in BIG-IP Virtual far thus most we the

As FX and NGINX ahead, including Services coming SaaS offerings, more even introduced FX our we offerings. growth see look we recently from new Cloud our combined platform,

combined can closing be. and thanks our team, our my too and NGINX FX today, as In to we working thanks successful those my the is partners, to to the to it as FX entire shareholders, our especially customers ensure believe

the open With we operator, will that, Q&A. now call to

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Capital line from you. KeyBanc comes from Your the first Alex question Thank Kurtz of Markets.

Your open. line is

Alex Kurtz

taking for question. guys the Thanks Yes.

should NGINX Just see, customers are around software Any dynamics to means for on the in mean -- about are which comments think in consuming it but how business? What excluding the for impact these really that size? how just, does it would deals the from to how the recognized a and great quarter. Francois, is revenue relative it being for is second, systems quarter and we

Francois Locoh-Donou

first Hey, portion. and part Alex, take the Frank perhaps the comment can on I'll revenue recognition

models of the our portion the gives the cost fastest is ELAs, three-year So, subscription our via the go. via way that customers also subscriptions. fact are flexibility business the the is consuming that and also own perpetual are their customers typically in has the of part lot of a as growth software because they it subscription and in terms in business consume to and software both more ability also year The which our agreements, licenses one features

of around lot that seeing size, with deals tens kind the Ks multiple of deal of year And license -- to enterprise are point range a way from to a seeing one we're traction small three-year models. your typically we're all agreements. multimillion subscription So, ranges dollar, these consumption of

Frank Pelzer

would previous And the like with we subscription the XXX of Alex, exactly deals in what of perpetual this years. with lot as adoption deal associated had revenue year, have recognition a look

the recognize our frankly out proportion is value split the you that perpetual. revenue, which of recognizing, radically of after instead so, And components and modeled

to a same. very it's year-over-year very, on So, comparison, close the

Operator

from question of next Paul Cowen. Your line from Silverstein comes

open. Your line is

Paul Silverstein

couple A if I I appreciate may. it.

what and help XX% mishear to ex-NGINX? total. QX, out software you just current $XX wrong, was XX% versus that growth, ago I it ago, this this to said be with me XX% coming year must XX% math all, fiscal not XX% a exclude the out product I'm of on current if quarter, year-over-year organic my NGINX, XX% the million $XX in million, revenue and Can the in million Because is you year in we you numbers? will a $XX revenue, work but off, the First out

Frank Pelzer

much this So, not. I so year number Paul, think, last is It's number, your for for the lower. year correct, is

close it's to think million I something or million. $XX $XX

Paul Silverstein

quarter of Did revenue you quarter? not last million year the do in all $XXX ago product

Frank Pelzer

about XXX. Yes,

Paul Silverstein

XX% of $XXX million is $XX million.

Frank Pelzer

a was not last referenced ago quarter, quarter. I that year XX%

Paul Silverstein

My quarter? year ago was apologies. a What in it

Frank Pelzer

doing was memory, about I -- XX%. I it but think I'm think, off was this it

Paul Silverstein

back you I'll right. All XX? come to on the after that. call

to related Secondly, software NGINX particular. in

done working I think, back on the you've then, Silverline a out there previous VMware, past existing that it quick you a you whether And were all And acquisition; FX view if on whether I've platforms, two totally just among NGINX you Avi. investors plus platforms. recall I to what bought augments? there's most question displaced respect years. NGINX with cloud it, Can displaces got hard when clarify

Francois Locoh-Donou

Paul, it for software, displace or either thanks does sort of perpetual our not virtual offerings no, NGINX, question. the edition On Silverline.

essentially platform is of a have Silverline managed market services infrastructure the in or WAF services in a and our the application DevOps' services the security managed than scrub a DDoS to-date, for application code that customers environment, different leveraging traffic support with played Editions. And our either for other Virtual to want So, to and it Silverline associated and is to very with logic. with plays we market security injecting XXxX essentially and NGINX platform great to consume services them. provide

Paul Silverstein

total Frank, before I what question, percent revenue ask is Avi the of recurring? now your

Frank Pelzer

of fees. including north it’s services say, the would I XX%,

Paul Silverstein

you was ago? what it Do know a year

Frank Pelzer

don't top on that get to Paul. to head. the of you back that have I’d I off have one, my

Paul Silverstein

be that’d could, you If appreciated.

question. Avi the for Now,

success needless are to acquired talking it before got Obviously all customer by resources, it having of what they previously wins VMware. versus thereof game you? against in got terms long know, say. were you good So, seeing whatever that really in currently, success just things a or been Avi acquired was lack time, competition their base but are and incumbency, I of hasn't degree

Francois Locoh-Donou

quite know has acquisition. bit a one this VMware of after the I gathered interest

take answer time and facts on your question to thoroughly going So, the the I am a few to table. put

X% them So, that a nice [ph] them, value you prop have a truly GOE. having Avi the majority truly the tell around let And is actually specific large essentially nice GOE a scalable plays these in load analytics a would Historically, and analytics we’ve over deals. we and use that fraction the less balancer in proposition where value with our lightweight, this customer than value the [Ph] I’ll solution. And where is software market. of Even that. when seen seen is win very me of be And about small we of deals. cases

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been. historically So, I have the sure facts wanted on to make And that. that’s just things where clear were

company. Now, VMware a is great

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we’re how let in space. -- So, the compete with to going to me get

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so DevOps reasons, what And and these a will market. choice NGINX And the and do in very chose and that’s with NGINX we’re excited teams. NGINX FX development the natural application for of why all for combination we is

Operator

next question the from Sami Badri Suisse. line of Credit from comes Your

Your line open. is

Sami Badri

Thank you.

more what you're an you factors? you like your was, consider bit of buyback? today? your quick the mid-year to Are idea at M&A? fiscal to is plan balance? about give reinstate Would from or this a I going consider what this other of quickly on your going Are you're just to escalating cash to had what least you cash Just to be potentially XXXX, do to corporate to do us balance going year, with balance? with just and some quarters to where going cash cash wanted some next three basically on are the maybe So, we cash, right, question understand first where I by going a two

Francois Locoh-Donou

look think, I at Look, it Sami. can this Hi, way. you

going the emphasis sheet But, for All opportunity on our opportunities on the significant -- presents itself emphasis to But options continue there at very is are the our now, to balance we're focus augmenting look placing are or more on marketplace, we're We if table. in balance. potentially and in rebuilding whether buyback. the M&A, balance. short-term, and potential cash cash rebuilding these our more it's

Sami Badri

further that hardware. are the it Got you. market that offerings be could to backdrop that correlated Thank also of IT kind fair majority more systems with, versus new FX the of the this is And then, together to would specifically, the safe the growth a coming it. metrics with, assume and of do in today, with market of to a at said, it coming NGINX see revenues or IT my out formation you are question of lot a probably next new had to and offerings, broader And see given more the some go bit and I software-based you you in see, rate, could the months accelerate side world, decelerate software macro further the then acceleration would probably declines side? in the in naturally potentially system some some or start least, from growth given see to guess six deceleration

Francois Locoh-Donou

that don't I sort of deceleration mentioned, factors think on XXXX. factors you necessarily further when other look the also lead side, there hardware you compensating to the are because in Sami, would

capacity I service around provider that upgrades a sort think, probably from more hardware naturally more should are bit see we driven. of

that. evolution have contribute also hardware would of some platforms, our that We to own platforms

Horizon around X I both on we're guidance. factors growth. of there And given that mid-single-digit comfortable account guidance So, for with I that We've have think, are that into when still taken of equation. our all think we sides

to thought was hardware sort would Sami, flat would that our guidance, that range. the go what in of and in XX% Now, XX% to software decline low-single-digit

thought. decline, that faster than to hardware balance little hard is the over revenue But months, a seen the thought. we what a seeing to be think, going exact six at each. is last faster is we're going hard little still numbers we've give it's But what to to growth Given you of overall, and software I a what we to this point, the grow for it's going say answer fair on also

Sami Badri

bought you maybe do an has just then, the on like? what like regarding some And idea, And you. versus kind you on give mix deal hardware illustration terms of Thank software with idea it. of question from last carrier. APAC us us carrier to could just Got an look deals we the this to guys, in my future on have what carrier could so give

Francois Locoh-Donou

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Operator

next line of comes Rod from question Goldman Your Sachs. from the Hall

open. Your line is

Rod Hall

guess, to your share maintain you what I think of and Like, systems the for go and ADC you’ll would what the you've expect then, question ask able expect systems share lost few to market you share? that you you and this share? think wanted within just I kind performance to kind itself? would happen back of you looks maintained of in to future, do systems decline you think like And next be market to or for position track like the the quarter? the quarters? Do you Do more think you outperform business

Francois Locoh-Donou

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if definitely being ADC market, share. the software, gaining I overall, the said, and to going we're of Now, look hardware think lens that with you’re

for done have do of and things are changed offers to revolves in we can't we we that make exists my also structured and around of solutions. FX and remove this help to commercial come And share to contracting are there the can't our platform. software. transitioning we've structure. how teams faster that we software in way customers space, And customers them the then, deliberate incentives answer And reports things that. I we’ve and share done can the some couple much quarters. a friction I our go-to-market hardware our to offerings is hardware also the our these But, you tell won't in quarter, it easier software that this includes the have on actions in business adopting to field It gained what consume Specifically market all our in put things tell, who want out know of I proactively until we around revolves that the to transition

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Rod Hall

you software Yes. No, would ask was And market quarter, or share is coming you are sustain or my would you I terms was growth -- year, this did better, if been one-off Francois, us looks over it ballpark can you kind do I that of that you out? of -- match maybe sort question what I maintain in more, for like given that growth also what the high in or you gaining what whether hardware. guys the even this is wondered likely thought angle a can more thinking thought software think think idea have was growth, you of of in or the mean, from. market you growth any the look you kind next as we where And I of the wanted you of give you hardware to but the my kind

Francois Locoh-Donou

I offering. think, analysts’ XX%ish Rod, growth ADC the which on the are reports is the exclude latest if growth, at software if you you ADC’s software say far back to in analysts’ so rate -- my the reports here pointed exclude that way, moment. market. ADC-as-a-service, I’ll look the to largely come comments a But in excluding them, by cloud

gaining software it are ADC growth component security significant in market, it’s isn’t a definitely has just look our has we you very the -- ADC, believe if And that, which driven strong strong software share so, we software also growth. by a also even of though that at

So, of that’s when you things kind at today. look

and also half Cloud X was growth the Services, Horizon specifically said I more which can growth we likely So, growth played guidance, we expect Look, of in every are software that quarter. around that of do sort your don’t part to contributor we quarters? have out in and put the software XXXX growth in a catalysts FX XX% And as software X. NGINX to because think I of back maintain certainly XX% than the expectation my that is is coming better question XX% -- Horizon in our I we haven’t yet, before, contributor a

is you about those and So, to for Horizon I hardware revenue think growth Horizon both catalysts with still X overall correct. what that combine X happening we’ve But of materialize us. yet you that for - with overall is what’s for shared are aggregate when think I

Operator

Your next Jeff comes line from from of Nomura. Kvaal question the

Your is line open.

Jeff Kvaal

two I Yes, you. have questions. Thank

in have picked expanding bit be rate, of the in I a you. that much to have expected standalone when seem rates there is if into would growth business. little But, security success the for tremendous There despite it as explosion. doesn’t et growth you comes And corporate of corporate does quarter, overall software trajectory cetera. cetera, Francois overall first on guess a this the uptick you your up, it though are et software I a to piece put think, I higher

if that. wondering was thoughts could about offer I you some So,

OpEx on get that. But might us we’ve there extent of go help so the Frank, quarter an modeled, was then, is and integration the you. I number could offering you year, your fiscal where just a acquisition, is over the higher And than are wondering little course you September I the you if understand to of where it can. is and Thank for the that the side, OpEx us

Francois Locoh-Donou

playing first you from base reflects have the much that rate think for in look, we and I of I Horizon acquisition starting that's what our shared business, hardware our the how look I think of dynamics and majority that go a And aggregate pretty shared large made pick this when transition NGINX overall Horizon what shared revenue I at you in our have X, company, time we think in we as software up. growth. transitioning we when expected the But to for part. the to to this a being. And a out And is have line terms overall playing And the AIM view. it's so of with that’s at think X, we far take growth I’ll revenue out. we this combined at -- still growth, look if is the through

Frank Pelzer

quarter year. of is rest terms have Jeff, of coming the And our margin that we fiscal fiscal our in for of non-GAAP year, the operating rest the

not we that so, to margin acquisition be expenses anticipation was we that And XX%. to Horizon providing in guidance NGINX in range. that our is this at XX% about for on non-GAAP were X the talked of come operating did of And FYXX. of we to in the in acquisition. point going the expected range But, we're This the that as the through going any absolutely NGINX, with

So, what that's we're exactly seeing.

Operator

Your of from Chatterjee Samik comes J.P. the from next line question Morgan.

Your open. line is

Samik Chatterjee

Are in hesitation signing there signing of deals. softness macro, any given mentioned, point? large with a last were you large broader enterprise taking companies had Hi. to kind are terms that think, start question. you uncertain ground? more wanted are on this particularly there for in seeing on of seeing from I the what Francois, customers? spending some at in just of the trends question Thanks kind I seeing few off quarter, you What was those deals the

Francois Locoh-Donou

Europe, environment than Samik. macro it softness, as ago. would, less healthy I companies or scrutiny us deals, hardware have would that especially seeing I and areas delayed more a where It's is it Overall, specifically And as being a UK a of of and Where say, continue also software maybe course, say healthy couple UK year cancelled but as think I difficult of and Hi, of specific have it you Germany hardware, in deals characterize specifically to we're seen I in the not was would the wouldn't give year was it not first applied to is see altogether. for policies. number of in the uncertainty we pointers. I -- there ago. kind a we persists being and

And so, that deals. cycle, probably for elongates deal specifically hardware the

Samik Chatterjee

Frank, quickly on with it. I question side. a Got the software to think, follow-up

very -- the products. that most was security You of software sequential you the in driven and by a mentioned revenues had strong lot growth

SaaS ramp SaaS You if think Can offerings they outlook? contribution up kind I of how sequential new it I become believe understand of you if in so that how takes March. new launched material from do us growth, to or offerings much now, immaterial help kind the just much time also you the there think to it’s your those was

Francois Locoh-Donou

Samik. Yes,

are soon load is we -- first yes, actually launched to and service server FX Services, which by service platform, process next is right, WAF-as-a-Service, achieve And next followed Cloud our -- balancing introduced So, -- March, cetera. you're SaaS global our our of the DNS-as-a-service. et in going platform now, the launching in pretty of on we and is set we're

service, are basically service the GSLB days. the And we new in platform. where we're and early will we but and have as we large is on expect accelerate we we service, have that -- very first just a already have introduce paying of like the number first customers And are on we even pickup trial we first WAF. customers the the So, the

terms quarter. -- SaaS certainly the not a the -- take don't expect expect Services it overall FX contribute be this and obviously so into growth. be We going meaningful have businesses in Horizon to a to when of bit contributor not did In quarters. Cloud really get we next three software to to of certainly a our But material, certainly would platform business ramp. to and into to ‘XX, our FYXX our X, we time

Operator

The of Morgan Stanley. Faucette next James from question comes from the line

Your line is open.

Meta Marshall

XX% Great. noted XX% you of This change but you go-to-market. had within is noted, for Maybe Marshall the Horizon OpEx X kind to that understanding James. just kind that also that first to question, of the is Meta the

layering an of have kind been $X for of the in And I much get kind just there you versus second go-to-market What to -- so, of is that what impact is the this -- get just the how kind NGINX is a forecast just you've of million this quarter. it's is question, cost want without in change in accounting of maybe on if contribution sense of approach? of accounting And a much NGINX just of if of then, to could the the purchase -- of we sense Thanks. a how adjustment? your the would purchase mentioned kind

Francois Locoh-Donou

part, the and Meta, take take first second the part. I'll will Frank

of Horizon NGINX, fundamental there, in models. though go-to-market, the we this in size to in teams with the we On the addition NGINX go-to-market go-to-market platforms, change to of profit largely Meta, a but really our not a some about software our platforms increased this the is it's Even operating XX% than guidance XX% X, about investments go-to-market. the of change is have Services, the investments And due do NGINX. and for it’s more our it's mainly Cloud have mainly to the FX

Frank Pelzer

a of Without next about $XX a contribution quarter. million in million, $X relation purchase the I maybe just would million, assumption that approximately that to NGINX than is my mean, be $XX the next quarter? discussion slightly was accounting, more

Operator

question comes the next line Raymond James. Your Simon of from from Leopold

is open. line Your

Simon Leopold

little reflect I wanted I the OpEx come at to a question to quarter. June on differently. the maybe want bit

Excluding the coming from the believe, imply you million $XXX $XXX which million something acquisition. like had acquisition forecast, I million, to would XXish

obviously June of what's the operating could the in maybe then one-timeish, help ongoing quarter forecasting you're what from lower and what's acquisition, September. in sort you because understand us expenses occurred significantly unpack If maybe

expenses? just I want I sure to operating components moving to So, the make or parts understand

Frank Pelzer

Sure, Simon.

we where split I in contribution just about think $XX that things can non-GAAP million, be some of is So, but talk when NGINX, that our And press all getting that out. not found to have that the you're release. from we reconciliation figure also

us for accounting take NGINX makes portion was And and consideration the it so, leave but I'd it where of holdback quarter that the some items the But there key part to negotiation. was or an where as you was the point expense that. of deal of a [ph] part was that effectively bigger in of employees the acquisition a

new charges. facility the the inflow were was some rest that. that the a then would employees. so And we portion would And what exit of discuss of NGINX be There large of

and that of of all guidance So, forward. anticipated our part our as was guidance going

Simon Leopold

quarter? so, in incremental is $XX to $XX expenses kind of from And million to itself by expenses range of terms in per what going the operating a NGINX is million

Frank Pelzer

think -- we not the We’ve a teams it’s out it’s combined approx actually, tracking way we’re business. practical already Simon, I less some It’s splitting of are it’s and together the not than purposes. bit but number the that for a little that

Simon Leopold

the do got because break to feel you’d like it as maybe back than to first significant more adequate you in still the just is in FX seems And the pivot, of run level has not position, sort Okay. that I in terms cash pattern. you think What bought this years stock. XX is of stocks, quarter cash certainly understand business the a and I to so the necessary is buyback everything that cash if could

guess, to explain trying your if not even if number, you really, you’re to ready philosophy. can a maybe I I'm us give So,

Frank Pelzer

do do share with Sure, Simon. for repurchase to time, had other business plenty and we’ve long of to to a that as I you inorganic the cash, including chosen expansion. can mean, things cash opposed have run

cash flexibility are shares. is with the and before we has be so, be quarter. our be it. there the market continue we’ll to and cash I multiple repurchase that level back where one this back adding use could say to to up for in And That go can’t purposes that ultimately balance strategic

Simon Leopold

with maybe follow a on instituting thought you your dividend? just Could that

Frank Pelzer

We any we’d more do as and off great a dividend. cash. think this our tax anticipation that shareholder a efficient redistributing not base, to cash be redistribute actually don’t much vehicle share instituting of at Yes. have to of way that that’s We point repurchases to

Simon Leopold

taking Thanks for Great. the questions.

Operator

Thank today’s conference you. gentlemen, this Ladies and concludes call.

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F5 (FFIV) 24 Jul 192019 Q3 Earnings call transcript