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Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Bunge Limited Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Release and Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I now would like to turn the conference over to Mark Haden. Mr. ahead. go please Haden,

Mark Haden

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Soren Schroder

everyone. joining Thanks us. for you, Thank and good morning, Mark

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Tom Boehlert

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Soren Schroder

Thanks, Tom.

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Operator

from of Montreal. Instructions] with the [Operator first Bank question And comes Zaslow Ken

Ken Zaslow

with that I that did the forward most like two were draw come I to for it up if weeks, just to were Was questions. And how the or guidance end your most two at outlook. at the XXXX? recent I you have When recently? last change would of year sustainable, look if it is to that your

Soren Schroder

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Ken Zaslow

together guidance, incorporate or when XX it So month did ago again? put you so where last or XX the days your a or does

Soren Schroder

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expecting but happening all very crush that more this a will We’re structural all very, quickly. is in as we improvement the year, see we through go

So cautious of ahead ourselves. a far we're getting too being bit not in

Operator

Citi. comes question next then And you. Thank David from with Driscoll

David Driscoll

So Sugar historically and the trading One venture, so two changes. strategic specialty positive. just trading oils joint questions. about was the

press year, you I'd down I it oils, recently commercialization years why to was simple is does and last feeds release hey, that as like So guys bit tremendous more of want in where these On joint the want clear was not progressing. to it as that algae and in shut one little you about businesses Soren, new think as exactly on hear a talking out you've fish pressure, just it, for EBIT and it the I'm it that Why specialty one. not it. seemed many in down like really and even a company is shut are the coming venture believe the under is you’d just as of progress I been being had look, October

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So you look down right way at just close these the that Is now. things it? to

Soren Schroder

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David Driscoll

actual is In year fourth like I the million think. XXX was third in believe for had I XX to XXX the guidance changed to to agribusiness, implied something the quarter like then been XXX, quarter guidance XXX,

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on appreciate things quarter again So outside and the we went that track you the on just the comments can see fourth that better, what can us given think help give how you volatility? just any would us

Soren Schroder

of on that both as have August, And quarter in already reducing crush margins actions some track in, major the also Argentina seed the take period anticipated we we and both Thanks, variable, out There's confidence fourth turned and for also pay we rates, less and the But total. in The September, October. Origination that soy in David. locked of the at and us the October a completing we and a was to would out had take essentially out, were Well, was starting have crush in month November That doubt it. guidance of beginning range zero not through at hold. were originated of than taken were total that very given, in about that December, Argentina part expected end disappointed. quarter really we've to for back that i.e., in it $XXX and and about significantly and Europe the $XXX be Europe selling Brazil December well. million up soft no in And agribusiness capacity crushed we the the deliberately margin. grain we ended be other was in lower all margins strong started commitments we gross impact a very some turned as Yeah. people November that disappointment. had with was million. gave

the So those were elements.

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Operator

comes Robert Moskow the from you. Suisse. Credit with question next And Thank

Robert Moskow

Just a question in about that. the outlook and the take or pay, I activity guess, reducing your

you your I exposure sacrificing by think forward XXXX occurred in lock also reduce some that XXXX. margins well, you taken your -- reason of spot and in have the distribution effort just is to you in ability that more are by the would that part this that the is customers that want But conservative market, step, to an to you kind you for by taking losses margins. otherwise don't with go rather to outlook as of than locking

Soren Schroder

comment Well, right. your is

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the third export, we in to that share. a a price willing crushing originate margin. China, be ourselves So, we’ve particularly our we we have goods And or taken bring parties we Otherwise, in stance market from and cetera. place will own sacrifice to we some to can that destinations, find et with then Europe for way Brazil, origination whatever that be to will soy

margin. with So just gross to handling all that a reason way running again. in Brazil should got pragmatic crop be We've no a There's zero coming we very the off system. record why

So, building flexibility. we're just in more

plays and of towards more out flows What again. margins okay. in we see into is how we At get heading that where into will March will be out I positive the we of and good think back origination think it turn as the moment, get towards export. directed most crush April margins it Brazil we at will will some

where to of no the lock ourselves reason case for at year. will industry There's margins negative into situation just want for don't we we originate that. was to last most So as be forced the a

Robert Moskow

just or matter or that margins crush last more it I'm in flow when one? through in export locking a your And are domestically so clear, either origination, you little at margins really year negative did guess, I distributions your doesn't

Soren Schroder

really margins because advance. we doing the best depending all we we channel, That's it's to do made types on margins from contracts either and farmers to that that. and meant commitments but are year. not and not buy exactly because have to selling at negative move and disappointed, can negative go that that wouldn't are fulfill we significant in being logistics, doesn't others up where rail out of you and away have probably It whatever pry now, when and like what ended this farmers in lock those have still are other essentially grain avoiding margins to matter We the transportation ourselves you we

Robert Moskow

little that you're more price a an overall more sell to just environment flexibility a challenging it lot Is there's supplies the farmers a leverage, financing, speak they or at as cope what that situation when, just better of on and fair that Does market, at assessment? Okay. to grain the more that's you're trying with. in, to have

Soren Schroder

it operates now the be I'm we negative. for middle margin a margin. In it'll was of least a of will South-American, in margins way and will ago, will marketing will we the mentioned for the onto trying everywhere into paid big adjusted what and ships Last back a as do. big different port, historically was may positive do, normalized we'll my year are likely of Brazilian factors as adjust bringing think a call we all and that. It we view, to record the I go to the profits logistics entire the and more to that market collectively years the to it everybody we the conditioning What previous grain, industry different was, deserves not be but ourselves situations. not get interior, risk balance And really maybe storage, pattern but all certainly wake get a that than be it, to another environment. four allowed it, years and and we better had loading new sheet, at it sure deep not starting in get normalize it it crop, originating from but provide, you and up the the type we services as it, type take we transshipping

Robert Moskow

Soren, foster the help just handling environment, industry margin you generally and processing last speaking Does think? consolidation a question. higher in

Soren Schroder

speaking some I'm Not business sure. in not with but necessarily. so all areas, a aren't to that barriers broadly fairly fragmented that Maybe entry It's significant.

you that your how about run your assets profitability. more it's determines So

say I'd global is scale, certainly probably but that a case, the not. So, on pockets where there are

Operator

the Goldman Samuelson next comes question Adam Sachs. And with from

Adam Samuelson

the the continuing on agribusiness. XXX million million the Maybe in discussion XXX to on outlook,

the you’ve on $XXX We're or Just $X.X long-term would the long ’XX we’re term after above. about that hey, $X that and been of the be Help is falling the programs. of below in cost seeds maybe previously components just and billion, to to that short about expectation still the where relative versus longer-term a where to even the raising think agribusiness expected billion this of grains little range. before think color the in million some still versus benefits really me starting into there outlook trying stay bit and for XXXX, more to XXXX oil was,

Soren Schroder

million pickup into the global about in the Right. million $X have in particular, current you soy in America close depressed to XXX level give from just South very a really delta. dialed to XXX $XXX XXXX What is some normalization ton margins, range it, and And then we grain call crush and take a origination million. gets in

of midpoint the So that gets you in range. that

to you to global price convinced as utilization that, in in still will meal. continues higher that market the we of the of capacity back Beyond are and margin we of tighten in that, sort XXXX face demand that both oil growth margins in beyond know that gets to crush and baseline the have

is improvement margin but US, So of South about. the three there, reasons origination of and over $XX then some have that can And the in to talked in we there's beyond to been just America for in really, cautious get that, the question also normal we we particular, to next years. see two another grain the more $X back kind

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enjoyed simply of the and that part for footprint oil that one and to optimally call out be of any wasn’t just but next and has there. ‘XX, it, we been we in, that our in We’re we’ll place no important of of ‘XX any different Global much global the profitable, ‘XX, taking types but and we to into demand over was grain dislocations earnings year to just our trading our either, last and it think degree seeds make back seen. an and the profitable. origin the ability years. we moment, come not that distribution use everywhere, it and dislocation was near meant work, Any from described depressed. would profitability shift just dialed light have again but can world that of as approach distribution nowhere yet because in is abundance a proteins It was capability bring consequence been any of that It's the prudence. very periods, That

the those is biggest we weighed feel fairly we and every So that into which is day thing business. the outlook, are the confident and gave things one that growing that range stage it's soy our about admittedly the crush at this

Adam Samuelson

’XX of, And disruptive then on fell about just move in think to those gives quarter. and bridge of view a the fairly fourth you operations how and bit. prices, much crushed, kind to the kind takes, the the sugar constructive the very that despite as real that the trying But strongly was side, outlook, just it weather just it's wasn't in through I pieces puts quarter. understand short fairly the cane has me ethanol still what's ethanol help mix sugar and confidence, Brazil a little a prices you just lower the and it fourth

Tom Boehlert

Hi. Yeah.

benefit million program. allocations. increase plus to ’XX from milling by results, the basically of The that of that allocations, are an $X range we results in we competitiveness midpoint ’XX, bioenergy have $XX from the cost million takes basically about offset Going gave. results and crush to us And about the

XX are and of and milling, really fairly XX significantly, is in ethanol for a in million are what roughly sort of million million fourth increase volume that the half up rest of the tons prices is And up ethanol making to million back we slightly getting the missed quarter. from -- prices price, to so crush XX down. going so And plus sugar

an our effective In ethanol. typically of not course two-thirds of of about hedge ethanol. our way to hedge none sugar hedging, is we of There and terms

maxing on volatility So, relative price. We're out the we’d of at price kind look moment. the at ethanol, given

ratios ethanol those improved And really was price price. XXXX can figure into positive sugar and in what using out kind ethanol the sensitivity with variance. driving be And you the would change a price so of the going

Adam Samuelson

And quick Does agribusiness. clarification, just quarter mark elements Okay. in week a one potential an some the market, expecting outlook? mark-to-market generally on to already soft soft first to are of is where to addition include is that this the mark comments that pressure, a market

Soren Schroder

up over still we agribusiness of at what quarter was probably saw type the was now, rate, yet. of would I QX, -- continuation that it in not least say that -- is it a run until

So, market be top quarter first that. a mark--o on of would softish and

Operator

comes And with JPMorgan. Duignan from the question next Ann

Ann Duignan

have Most questions of my answered. been

in there Just we think other about on impact that the to sugar might the that business. any dissynergies Are that ought take business? businesses post actions you any

Tom Boehlert

No.

Ann Duignan

Band-Aid on business I that trade Brazil, mean, then satisfied just the the to origination And you've really problem fix to the to underlying are structurally addressed has changed, Soren, how farmers learned moving business in the problem? on market market, if hoping root cause of have the or problem that are going purchasing the we and putting that or the spot a hold you is

Soren Schroder

market mean, you to adjust I you tell to. conditions Well, as have

reasonable the crop biggest the are ago that used the I that where It's back. We margin, has combination and and thing a that is when currency That's changed into is we bought so with now. before or farmer the of I to say futures big already XX% XX years the significantly led think would to XX%, better. the do both expect change. couple to to to that farmer walk X in ability advance come Brazil, you Chicago advance. done of to price months to ourselves, a harvest, is little and that let’s of in right us selling has a of single harvest compared the in

ability last moment At are, doing with in forward couple think time. the there deal I we years manage we're to very the on to we these Brazilian risk the much it's farmers. still of behalf in value of how add time, So can farmer and a is just same everything

local out up protection farmers some everywhere better do with in financing in but very help Brazil, as minorities, we well, of and the to a farmers, them. we a progress, in that a return but help working else something announced in Alvarado structural elaborate you that originators happening probably and saw can from way of to last profitable We’ll be be be as in the network work with eke to so crop margin. think risk have bit management is to bundle forward. to services it's a partnering world I reach we’ve that fall just it's invested in That's tools, Brazil, successful ranging have it's have fertilizers we one We and will

So I broken. don't think it's

normal. think just we'll towards profitability back a period year, and a one of get we’ll this more and I hopefully be through we've to back time step -- difficult gone normalized

I think it will be.

Operator

And with the you. Stanley. Thank next from Morgan Vincent comes Andrews question

Vincent Andrews

thought. cutting you I year didn't obviously know recent that the the play program, ink most the on out barely dry the but that way cost

you of you year, that cost the a persists, few billion this quo SG&A to Is target, kind outcome, end now. $X.X guidance round low the of take being think that of are if bone lowest can the that outcome it or is, question if from near there's actions that’s my once guess possible that -- status I another years if go is the of the or you hit absolute the So the X.X.

Tom Boehlert

We're we ‘XX. early ‘XX. the in program. exceeded the in have plan in We place XXX to the And million in still the achieve Hi.

as related of we'll and efficient the any able from in savings make think sort this the move looking at go. activities, service we more as updating cost for additional be with I have we're time, assess program, can the that. opportunities we and to we into get we we As in put and better we point be through what shared comfortable the out will numbers But you company

Vincent Andrews

Okay.

we a a the year. quarter, move number real on around impact the you the you might of it talked understand in As it you could help FX this said the you and a bit think swing cost if quantify potential just follow-up to I that savings, this so us sort quarter, about last could

Tom Boehlert

Yeah. impacts not last really were The material year. FX

at look $XX change in let a FX in you way, me if million to probably real, this So the the swing board a do XX% it to in $XX across SG&A. million overall lead would change a

Vincent Andrews

would going for reading on, if having and some some US soy soy then grain of already, of recall brewing And issues maybe China, years. to trade on there about I escalates. what's front just eventually stuff one What's is corn these the it on go noise and a assessment between the us few your don't

So of impact would issue elevated agribusiness do do the the with think it sort if environment Chinese? trade how into you we get

Tom Boehlert

think, strong I doesn't environment, global having kind represents a very needs. origin, in a thing but a part footprint is things over now Brazil of better very, of import is still US ton significant million that [indiscernible] figure Well, primary a in and which and presence, the an XXX good presence It's it I China's out that hope happen. really the good

far, say et you I’d got plenty turmoil. US some the the China Brazil. If think that discharge coming and load doesn't, there to of so this supplier is figured teams we've be the in out, margin. of get persists, So or noise cost non-GM, disruptions it matter all supply would as that would in If but that where that or the chains it significance be should out foreign of But could big of to relating the at out. given it cetera. it I that's lot somehow a would hasn't expect a priced worked US into

Operator

Thank comes the with next you. Aslam Stephens, from Inc. question And Farha

Farha Aslam

on question IOI a Loders. First,

that expense to, include pointed does Loders? Your us you that financing for interest

Tom Boehlert

No. Loders impacts. None of the outlook includes

Soren Schroder

next update so in give closed the and that once to all the adjustments plan we’ve We forth. Yeah. call and

of So presented includes the Loders. today none numbers we that

Farha Aslam

Argentina. then would cause caused that Could And level pull crushers the increase crush you tell what how crush, the with us like to again? crush on global really current soy seems and improvements for and them to is Argentine sustainable what back crush it started

Soren Schroder

much of so be have products now the the of so most for not from current the and based just played higher think -- beans is and beans, rates the ended and the margin unpriced but and to that and like we’ve farmer at think happening take mid-XXs, is Argentina you very not up carry was season excess unpriced And a what's sort economic exported enough in was not very really crush in factor and don't unless how later exceptional export has I unpriced glut it industry you back fixing a did pace expensive ourselves, which not of extraordinary a prices, excess margin that and taking because to created it's and is to to crushed last happening, is in okay, the that a very of soybean products. we meal, which crushing into warrant isn't started what mean environment and bounced and and which margin so the risk contrary selling sort the biggest in good should crushers in of I on low soybeans crush you and outcome going we're year crush that’s I yet. Well, it been reduction decided exporting crushers, risk Argentina beans. the that soybeans lesson, last were essentially very, it

the second levels. very with will in to and to is in of it his And to getting farmer be, at they moment even ramp so third walk keep meal conservative as quarters relatively us it significantly think long will quarter issues, up down soybeans global Argentine take potential to actually uncomfortably the continue into lower from as stocks pricing a and I the and seems the we’ll crop with second crush the like low

QX crush a higher QX. So we to at we get once will Argentina and into rate need

happened. what's that's think I So

Farha Aslam

in been far to has that Is and able will question demand in business? final so my the the that with And program valuation that impacting impact do Brazil. RenovaBio you're get ethanol to sugar Brazil passed that’s for

Soren Schroder

be increasing it’s details but not to XX program be are known. so, know, worked That’s or in of so and the next a in positive, Brazil as the it Well, And is give all in car the a it the believe makes seems there all in very early would I to the we this days fleet would very in out blend and the that be over this of flexed milling, renewable amount the the would it an to to right definitely fuels months commitment clear Brazil. improving still to to or production investor nice the be goes of solidify sense, quantify -- ethanol. in I would but hard and something now, effect an but of think, long-term courage sugar where investment business XX% it our case would be to fuel

Operator

Heather Group. And the from Jones Vertical next question the comes with

Heather Jones

your savings you what of quickly proportion segment. the few be I estimate in a really do allocated questions, have just but to XXXX cost agribusiness will

Tom Boehlert

About XX% X% and food to and to XX% goes sugar. agri, ingredients to

Heather Jones

second leads part – so my So my that question. it was my of to

assuming If savings, for modest of issue guidance increase ’XX, cost agribusiness like numbers are and rough profit then your and end the pay we ton seems high it guidance your at per resolving even the a relatively crush. you take that, the the for adjust in and you that whole or around put

improvements, offset if could wondering ’XX could some understand, us that us some of think was help if we're these in you about I so that. that And aware of not will help are negatives you there

Tom Boehlert

and so origination if recovery of is in together, on we guess on That's seeing off or the days starting in is at which a based XXX a that The that's million. I that, of than but XX that Brazil, try can we've a between know have grain bridge but next have margins for then soy that we said, the the don't the more we're XXX we million. effect And the roughly we top current $X would roughly of competitiveness projecting, have we're moment, my be the say what ton that currently head, much it will the and used. say XXX hold, become things build would Well. the I’m what yet XX point way million I $XXX $X you now be to which million roughly we could more, and it doing crush, if would then and program,

of sort it So such the to in frankly, now. just want to was of mistake. that be year, upper don't which trying last it how looks make shocker end all could. gets predict that the the profitability of that a higher? to And is But you in could it us same range, It

Heather Jones

competitive XXX. the thinking in agribusiness? about the of that was the plus Is program I SG&A, two-thirds

Tom Boehlert

the Oh, XXX.

are continuous I and think chain supply logistics That's million improvement. including industrial of $XX you improvements the all improvements.

that all it's of only not it Typically, guess a are We assuming half flips does, but really. line. bottom the that to of

that agribusiness ’XX which but will competitiveness can't go the $XXX the to and take is program, do line, combined So ’XX you million the will of XX. effect the the and of into bottom believe translate we XX of

Heather Jones

And now, staying is this view, how in and in then that run we would it seeing that in what we're ’XX you, saw how what crush right you different from up power. has your gives the confidence

Tom Boehlert

up more price, now, else I from that what seeing everything so whilst ran had collapsed are ‘XX, was in In soybean one ingredient example. Europe, think year divorced feed itself and wheat terrible than crop. meal we even every other a

So extreme. more it was

other in You were abundance ingredient every diving had those divorcing price. in growing and and real itself from feed

complete can of now in in soybean really good quarter to from yield a not after go a come soybean is carefully, I'm maybe quarter a that have have on of There effect, didn't very stretch. yet. run that ahead it is mean, want year. again, in recovered there The this grow and also formulation consumption, danger have but trade trade third in in also has that was meal was out soybean is a healthy to extent. into bit quarter it to it second year, but overall meal quarters So and itself. well way not forever. that priced we ’XX, large ingredients saying of I we get since last recent gets I we're watched and that origin, still second we this that the meal a even we that last up different believe we which go, as something and room at a both will terms It’s more the followed other suggest

more environment we So think with it's should it's and a stay structural and us. different therefore

Heather Jones

I've been that, and you DDGs excess itself. does said I'm it resolved because at the saw, like seem the issues glad relative those looking have way wheat pricing, speed that we

talk you you increased played well. talked all, has think do improved major and you when about as environment, that origin and crush a about time feed factor crush the meal slowing but inclusion So rations

Soren Schroder

crush balance better a it rates quarter trade when crush coming have made and overall none more throughout others crush Argentina back Argentina meal starting the of and demand, mean, better reduction full in quarter, already point, helped. all with We October, because August Those entire that crushes combined a really comes with at on I taken it the crush and to we first We’ve peak a of I that calls meal place. think, for guess reducing last of in we're I both now the into is year things during quarters resulted think a likely the and of XX% combined had we built helped. November have some stocks year, meal one mountain that I not and harvest things have demand that subsequent, continuing and better speed. we those got sense in second good year. global need any that action in of story their to year assuming combination they has in the for the The I off Argentina second their followed of into in significant. things have, in think, about were the indeed last talked third we

produce to stocks than much higher that meal we are currently to down Argentina So need not to rates levels unsustainable. draw at

and to a what’s discipline really combination more bit is of demand So we us where it's now. brought good a are

Heather Jones

question, that Argentineans they're should to talking relative will forced you situation So I've what crush to to think about willing farmers I not need how discipline numbers, are from where should higher, final how into crushing margins? we needed, but about other we sell. the it, Argentina if think about And remain you about do do and you're saying you what needing mean, disciplined echoes unless the get industry to industry players. think heard the

Soren Schroder

farmer view take in incentive last that. no in tell, of very will Margins the pace and is industry good do moment to that, economic at a year follow to year the My Heather. difficult lesson pricing for and throughout expensive Argentina that. was Argentina there's beyond we the enough very It's aren't to risk the

maybe don't happen, So current will they go if $XX, knows. that at who to I think at not margins, least

Operator

And question the [indiscernible] comes next Baird. from with

Unidentified Analyst

update additional separating you already. could and maybe where mine would in for the process guys at appreciated. there the what be have I you sugar color taking if Most options just your Thank are wondering provide was and any answered on been question. of we're

Soren Schroder

is done in to we partnership. we quickly rather sale, IPO, it position are partial or It we've and full options what are of that Well, the a in are now sale, could business could be several. a therefore separate an us have the financially separated a transact a be and front

cash that prices, years belt options. now even has we and Very could and all we weather with flow. free been looking bad where under three that year proved result adversity currently a profitable, We milling are the our business lower solidly we and several have feel at generate we the profitable importantly, last in strong

the ago. performance that something the for and years that with the business environments years be different than we we behind and tested through done of of good we doubt a three better better stood believe ready been milling have we outcome of same four and us we've have or no if had will So would test and think it the three several business the team, is

means. what that's it So

Operator

Thank you. a with Moskow And Credit Suisse, question next Robert comes follow-up. from the

Robert Moskow

your Just in in very Does get that crush a expect XXXX. margins per do you below soy normal crush normal quickly, ’XX? in still you or to that expect soy back increase you $X ton margins said you

Tom Boehlert

we ton years. a $XX our We really December improvement in the base that's you to on and from of margin a XXXX period felt is roughly three of improving That top over capacity type we a as level, to encourage utilization to four of should gets Investor $X, and from ’XX. sort there that, a ton back believe move back that to base which a That was the investment clearly was Day to $X by additional $X need level which you of grow. then

to base. we’re So back the

Operator

there any Thank time, you. turn I to for at the no comments. the as like Mark would call And closing are Haden questions present to

Mark Haden

joining everyone Great, for you Appreciate morning. thank this Keith and us it.

Operator

is attending you conference Thank today’s presentation. you. Thank concluded. The now for

may You now disconnect.

Bunge Limited (BG) 14 Feb 182017 Q4 Earnings call transcript