WIFI - Earnings call transcript Q1 2018

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen greetings, and welcome to the Boingo Wireless First Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to your host Kim Orlando of ADDO Investor Relations. Thank you.

You may begin.

Kimberly Orlando

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David Hagan

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Peter Hovenier

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David Hagan

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Operator

first Instructions] go Argento from Please Street line Lake Capital Thank Markets. comes the you. [Operator Our from question ahead. of Mark

Unidentified Analyst

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David Hagan

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Peter Hovenier

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David Hagan

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Unidentified Analyst

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David Hagan

Yes.

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Operator

Thank you.

Goldman line comes of Please next Our Jefferies. question from Scott go the ahead. from

Scott Goldman

Hi one that good maybe and guess to I afternoon housekeeping follow-up one then guys. question. last

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Peter Hovenier

good. Thanks Yes, Scott.

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Scott Goldman

Thanks. Great.

David Hagan

Scott. Thanks

Operator

you. Thank

next question the go of Capital. Please Roth Searle line Scott from comes ahead. from Our

Scott Searle

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David Hagan

Pete that's yours.

Peter Hovenier

You bet.

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Scott Searle

just A location And clarification above minimum's this at that a is the usage per of on offload. that that's correct? is lot driven Pete, point

Peter Hovenier

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Scott Searle

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David Hagan

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Operator

you. Thank

line of Our next go question from Securities. Penney from Northland the Paul ahead. comes Please

Unidentified Analyst

Thanks for Paul. taking the is questions. afternoon. Greg This Good on for

any there two number of discuss any this in you carrier regarding usage particular details trends and are on First, can and penetration carrier?

David Hagan

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Peter Hovenier

thing only the both to incremental contribute compared Yes, carriers as is in to QX add really significant QX. revenue

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Unidentified Analyst

you're will also when any the some a meaningful how be you on provide contributor? cell as the for on Could it. opportunity color organized timing getting and to that small got Yes, color

David Hagan

Yes.

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Unidentified Analyst

then be to this follow-up the to you for self-financed? of for self-fund? it I those the any roughly guess Great. total XX% on deployments just to Great. past self-financed. expect And quarter were this still And to be XX% Do of year

Peter Hovenier

Yes.

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Unidentified Analyst

any? done we Have

Peter Hovenier

doing under self-funded Yes, of are we're the so some deployment right now the model.

Unidentified Analyst

you, guys. Thank Okay.

David Hagan

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you.

question comes Oppenheimer. the Horan from Please ahead. next Tim from line of go Our

Timothy Horan

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David Hagan

Yes.

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Timothy Horan

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David Hagan

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Timothy Horan

you. Thank

Operator

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Jon Hickman

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David Hagan

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Jon Hickman

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Peter Hovenier

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David Hagan

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Jon Hickman

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Peter Hovenier

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Jon Hickman

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David Hagan

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Operator

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James Breen

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David Hagan

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James Breen

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David Hagan

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James Breen

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process? then third of year is take know You there are that look that you in venues use based long confident you one with the of a signing are what on how locations people and up those how does remaining are like

Peter Hovenier

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David Hagan

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James Breen

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Peter Hovenier

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James Breen

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Peter Hovenier

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Operator

to Ladies and we queue Hagan remarks. I'd further like questions turn at for this call have to no gentlemen, David the back time. in closing

David Hagan

Thank joining us everyone today. you, and operator, thanks for

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Boingo Wireless (WIFI) 3 May 182018 Q1 Earnings call transcript