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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2018 AXIS Capital Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded. And with that, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Matt Rohrmann, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Matt Rohrmann

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Albert Benchimol

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Pete Vogt

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Albert Benchimol

Thank you, Pete.

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Operator

Morgan Please Stanley. question will from ahead. Pan with [Operator Kai Today's go be Instructions] first

Kai Pan

changes, in third are and quarter results volatility. less reduced a of that cat portfolio evidenced peers. of reposition lot You cat exposure have make The on side some than your property actually your the results

you your going wondering you things; have loss? think because forward what's first lot sort of normal a your loss cat is loss normalized like going normalized below the about So that X.X%, months a your ratio done nine sort forward of sort is of what of, cat cat actually that or do I'm is

Albert Benchimol

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Kai Pan

And Michael? from losses do any you potential have early indication from

Pete Vogt

Kai, would this Michael I regard days. very still you tell is What with Pete. is to early it's

be Florence, insurance Michael to at to Looking a $X $X Florence's looking event. to going more believe I'll Michael has to, and call taken $X is billion Florida, $XX definitely billion we range, bigger the of billion compared lot billion. it's those that more an cover probably being of with buy We're looking of of to reinsurance. also most awful as event carriers a that area reinsurance the

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Kai Pan

second question higher losses the could the from operation, quarter? in is attrition insurance third the you property My quantify lines on

Pete Vogt

of quarter third the the year from this to class third property our at of quarter year. last look you If

about we that a ratio and year-over-year. just the higher the believe actually ratios what can attritional insurance loss probably we're from it's is about that up from - bit associated seeing see segment property loss two points the got on You

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of a So got points in I'd even probably insurance in the the tell to frequency is issue to I quarter. basically drag a close or loss points little north you the seeing due quarter four out we're a guess four what of as what property segments maybe

Kai Pan

lost improving X% follow points. If you the about two site your you above can increases, loss say, rate to expansion? the you to the the by give you confidence could you it potential, I talk loss on and margin cost talked expand have your Albert, ratio one that pricing underlying trend points about trend two more on average

Albert Benchimol

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Operator

And Cohen Lynch. ahead. next Merrill Please be Bank of question America with will from go Jay

Jay Cohen

you question. then versus both? to industry When one bigger or AXIS about said Michael follow-up talked the to another and a it's question relative one or comment Was that a you event. Just Kai's Florence,

Pete Vogt

more was quarter. industry, regard think a quarter bigger Michael to industry, we regard in was be because bigger the it's here third Jay. days likely the fourth But than the event in Yes, with do that the to with comment a early it us to will at than least Florence

Albert Benchimol

do we really you caution early. But it's

Pete Vogt

It's really early.

Albert Benchimol

process normal want to We this its I follow on to course. project leave this point the time. wouldn't claims in at anything need

Pete Vogt

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Jay Cohen

you That's then question good I investments Albert, you. And making. other Thank guess the disclosure. on about for early some you're talked

could You and I'm ventures wondering mentioned bit AXIS little speak you about a that. if digital more

Albert Benchimol

Absolutely, we've said this before.

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Operator

Meredith Today's go with be next question UBS. from Please ahead. will Brian

Brian Meredith

million great Novae Albert, through? I'm transformation. a job just had upside think the the have quickly with in coming $XXX done this guys you you things and are wondering to Do you how given expenses these

Pete Vogt

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Brian Meredith

large you seeing you Maybe Albert, in about? moreover of about then what on give briefly and you're it; kind lines you're trends know detail you any of in there. more and kind of expectations. commented a other I concerned cost can you where And classes loss kind professional is kind of kind little commented areas seeing that

Albert Benchimol

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Brian Meredith

Ogden benefit basis any curious, just on the loss just year-over-year on I'm then ratios? was attritional there the or in And

Albert Benchimol

There was, Brian.

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Pete Vogt

ratio motor after I And AXIS that the year. result improvement that, the there's that. changed prior the required because expected for loss few renewal of points bulk the we of in a a of but as one-one rates was the in mean

So that through seeing obviously drag for of as we disappearing we're XXXX. all we're XXXX had getting which

Brian Meredith

with What's rate? your outlook happen to for Ogden what's going

Albert Benchimol

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Operator

Elyse from be Greenspan Wells will Please with question Fargo. ahead. next go Today's

Elyse Greenspan

seeing to remarks some market that is leading reinsurance My development you Albert, pricing. were the and first to question, potentially prepared floor your recent alluding were the cat storms in you we're others with from adverse when a discussing of

the losses it were losses I seem like does capacity there So of year's last market. and this much still than lower guess obviously in year's lot is

upcoming I the do a And X, season? renewal January an might comfort, what initial will So on gives you floor? be see guess you it at at view XXXX we what

Albert Benchimol

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Elyse Greenspan

the us the Okay. And you is much then in savings in to-date how about of for annualized And million bottom of a remarks run purposes? that XX.X%. Is rate expenses prepared that line? terms $XX give could the of said of right G&A modeling sense falling then normalizes to

Pete Vogt

is this in quarter line. Pete. now Elyse, that Yes, million the bottom Right fall to did the $XX

that So down G&A It's the been in impactful year. of XX.X% through at normalized our ratio. the course was on quarter. It the coming

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Albert Benchimol

that additional million on investments we one comment question, And was your net Elyse; of when gave $XXX elsewhere. target, the

a is But those we follow a $XXX fully intend savings. intend gross this savings are that on perhaps of our we invest some excess to million. and - to of So Brian,

when we're the million, net those announcing $XX So are savings.

Elyse Greenspan

spoke the well. guys your as you book an in then quarter. quarter about last weather did insurance pointed, and couple the We on times the impact see impact And non-cat

take to kind you to this being more to new is expect kind just for to driving guys non-cat elevated color, historical just of level what’s U.S. – in normal losses it's price account So a saw of in a bit quarters? of or you of losses the losses do past can more that little levels? And and losses, normalize you the guys are we get couple this looking like that is firewater the elevated really this internationally of

Albert Benchimol

is it's marine if think fact all shore some seeing it question. than last related world. lot at years been I would we're in the business. And energy couple elsewhere lines. also just seeing property. of And property it think, of it's but not excellent it kind in in Elyse, there higher I look that There a in the U.S. And we're have property/property, is frankly an on you attritional lines, losses argue it's I normal seeing the

that putting back quarters pricing write general that at one So on seen question class. losses, areas terms. it just and is because I additional the prepared when both improved to we and way not extra the risk industry what property of has think I quarter. to the fresh and a over several requires we're this combination activity talk we're The we're I it's attention think the talking property earlier, And of spike last answered where to the and look of the kind approaching we're one

Elyse Greenspan

in spoke a kind of And the current the modeling rates and get off we in basis expecting Should then guys was when quarter the there XXXX correct? we versus yield consider last quarter, the with of sequential new fourth income, money kind in in one nothing investment kind bullish on continuing you your on question portfolio. the of growth into numbers

Albert Benchimol

Elyse. I'd there correct, is quarter. That's one-off nothing say the in

of good the we we provide the money and does portfolio. feeling opportunity believe rate So that new in upside are about is And the where duration our future.

Operator

Yaron Please will Sachs. with question next be Today's from ahead. Goldman Kinar go

Yaron Kinar

insurance is accident loss First ratio. the around year question

think four called it's to So the weather XXX points roughly move, I this basis out three quarter, look if quarter. non-cat four deterioration about sequential points of roughly points you of at we last and

which prepared relatively you the component think can talk maybe little think book. driving I overall more aviation, talked that is So remarks sequential insurance in your change? else I what about about is small you of

change color be sequential helpful? what additional that any on driving So would may be

Pete Vogt

quarter would I higher elevated that I you the discussed guess bit that from we seen of that as in factors. of It quarters. to prepared we're note in have regard we I'd are our we the is the elevated of comparison And not issues seeing – few a same losses of classes The the it want are book. talked third be about, is sort losses really last we from a better. second I actually in Vogt. same when seen what quarter. noted this got quarter across the saw it's a is we've Albert think this most – second say than sequentially to has to is be aviation With is quarter that little variety property, that it's property in second smaller just our commentary year-over-year Pete to quarters where remarks was you over the coming the Still aviation portion aviation

Yaron Kinar

north I little guess non-cat I just four of thought four three still points weather I'm confused issues XQ about in XQ. related of four to called because you out in

the on points weather, to non-cat top of of roughly or XXX So that basis way you in that think have additional property; is about XXX deterioration it?

Pete Vogt

back on from property to get the third quarter details modeling can We sequentially. that somewhat worse second actually up. quarter-to-quarter it the of the at looked I you haven't do know did get I But quarter. to

the me. numbers front have exact in don't I happen. did that So

Yaron Kinar

Jebi, off-line. then about on over there losses million X-in-XX $XX just of compared you PML to And million. of have $XX I'll follow-up so

event is a about So at kind fair it in year XX to think most? Jebi as one the of

Albert Benchimol

concentrated year Yes, look is we at Asia. event for about one very us. can in you really say I that we heavily aren't XX would in What as it think

And of one so in it would event. be more XX

Pete Vogt

wind look charts quake winds. Japanese we us got quake. attractive more you can have on we've was Japanese at our to Japanese than than if less tell you Yes, on Historically that Japanese exposure

that's smaller market share. just the And a of have market so part where we one

Yaron Kinar

growing trends new business. the final loss lines, of think a more and maybe still through I clarification yet professional you're of professional pricing growing in talked about in And point you excess you're lines being new question – then in

way loss excess thinking to just seeing talking want pricing pricing of cost ex-primary Is in that I a So were overall than is about the here. clear accounts. in is better marketing about you fair you opportunities be trends; for The of were and large where trends that that's it?

Albert Benchimol

the appreciate asking for clarification. I you're

coming And from you liability If - stable lines you book, some in and there's growth other the at frankly the our at it's bulk some cyber. pretty of professional look if down. its is the of look cases actually

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going give business a to you on I on that's we is to for our early of it's industry be going think leadership to forward, and cyber establishing forward. which going Just plug very we're think be good important a line going for and us

Operator

Next go with question will Amit Please Research. Buckingham ahead. from be Kumar

Amit Kumar

follow-ups. few Just a

The the question back on goes first to discussion PMLs. the Japanese

alluded limit pricing in and sort in materially any we Is of I or changes like at pricing about like exposure. the should think to then road? there goes think how PMLs about your even look how an terms could thinking what up your can about the exposure the upper down Japanese if looking you of we think

Albert Benchimol

we I Japan. growth have more would think certainly in appetite for that

the you Japanese at where growth are in of balance adding I and if the look probably think improve would terms the in the we portfolios. composition, diversification

every we wonderful I a think also from clients The turn realistic. their are and But they're appetite long perspective, the over have some to willy-nilly So be construction it's as panel renewal. clients don't portfolio Japanese have right price. they as clients, we loyal

hard opportunity You an have to grow. work to for you every have time

improve. be there would potential grow how be So I behavior growth of think the realistic terms to given to we to Japanese as appetite also is clients. have But much our there if

Amit Kumar

enough. Fair

trading at of The forward multiple? there's in other of terms price-to-book dilutions. obviously lot market and and volatility rethought you is sort you look or discussion stock on question the where of the revisited a I if the Have at buyback going had was,

Pete Vogt

So comments in question. there is two your

I'm So low. is to the you that agree the with happy first, price

to on renewals. this with plan, the But we'll you, the regards do can do told finalize happy as intentions to one-one the And you one-one So that soon something be when we we about our time renewals. the that. best repurchases do is update to after the

Amit Kumar

sort something non-cat on topic. can of on can done to volatility. non-cat discussion be weather a earnings And again address question Is it been this might so differently I or has be final doing the I you was Kai's power in maybe think question maybe which there true And the broader guess volatility this that Yaron's or emerge? question

Albert Benchimol

is single that's sure through a underwriter the in this because going executive which is right issue property that and is I'm now, AXIS. question particular an industry to every not

of that the every I are and looking frankly think our from seeing our is we and Peter as too divisions earlier what reinsurance. one we're same, is, frequency property and seeing others just hearing in higher we're we're certainly what at mentioned

what writing at of clients saying. the short are So business we I see our all. not mean

expose I think see actually what think is that you you done we've I have business but to we've if reduced our in property. yourself,

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a foot believe pedal. on point are believe likely on a that the we price not to do near we're of we're taking trying and with foot What to to that the we and is believe the we to that the the right right markets in close markets modulate in move and I are future So pricing. getting trying to are regard pedal to decisions the appetite construction

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Operator

from Shanker Please Josh go Bank. ahead. Deutsche with be will question Next

Josh Shanker

would? the on do you The Just curious the Was competition a a premium it if broadly maybe did AXIS less it's more thing and proper possible you aggressive for there from Novae. what renew post-mortem gotten book? talking pricing about the former or pieces you've to does for those you're or of ultimately from more aggressive than thought less how that you of differ business AXIS

Albert Benchimol

you question, excellent That's asking. an for Thank Josh.

and in I thing say with think we've for of an I book absolutely surprises that been had always company business, M&A is and good we've that's no So regards think environment. over what now a the would a year, in I to

I that, the all shed that The we tell you shedding second is thing of have business will not were yet we on Novae. planning on

one-one, the were terms is one-one there minuted in to the so where actions And next that we've could you'll subsequent at Josh, recall, when of of formal we control what of that getting in So some only we took one-one. looked October of company year. sense of that we last of taken book other the of limited take there frankly at business business books And book actions that were that the a we opportunity of business, but had are we which our

that action take, we planning is to there been so take more And at one-one. we've that will

So that I think should you there. help

regards and that liability, market, similar business the competing business I really business a in think leadership way and where the say And ours we to when the powerful of were for combined I of with year-to-date, really se, as cyber, on said there Lloyd's Novae in the has the made credit But look acquired profit we're synergies. type difference aware for at leadership per let's lines year. book has it's deny many that. substantial the the accomplishment. because that things same political, is our in that What Pete And of isn't very business. cases rest Lloyd's to of risk, we're an ahead will as very proud of of I pleased market we're quite last this I'm - marine, that strong that like delivering with presence market. again, I'm positions said Company that rest the not book the and underwriting is

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Josh Shanker

improve you se of can other experience, name pursuing your that books sort large profitability about not of? of for but appetite tracts can per M&A given this you talk And the

Albert Benchimol

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Operator

next And with today's go be from KBW. Shields [Operator question ahead. Instructions] will Meyer Please

Meyer Shields

whether you And continuing loads? materially then its keep whether Albert, So, your that, margin? on marketplace talk able expectations I all, about the reduce second be Lloyd's will can to overall guess, that expense incremental can one, of for,

Albert Benchimol

has a think I Let's don't be Lloyd's choice. honest,

with knows Lloyd's I'm the it. think that leadership the Lloyd's. I'm having very I conversations at by excited

it right I they're way. the approaching think

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Meyer Shields

then And or the that that? I participancy will some guess, most margin, creep, that in there's implicit expectations if the of is incremental

Albert Benchimol

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Meyer Shields

guess in quarter? reinsurance insurance can guess. I Pete, quantify you numbers question third one in both then inward premiums the outward and quick And reinstatement I for

Pete Vogt

$XX this was it And was reinsurance pretty think it the on think million Well quarter. side, don't was any - last year. I I Meyer,

So, the a in TWP. year-over-year that big change was reinsurance driver the

Meyer Shields

I’m sorry. ahead, Go

Pete Vogt

was Yes, really was and pretty no it premiums reinsurance it quarter. this statement reinsurance on either side

Operator

At will conclude this to the this turn closing any back time to for like conference question-and-answer today's over remarks. I'd session. Management,

Albert Benchimol

and Brian. for you And of you, all interest time morning. your to you, thank Thank this

said has in been at business. our see today's continued momentum quarter to of call, beginning I we've a the this positive As

grow commitment all into appreciation traction. to work. their my and if for of don't like take to market you integration moment And our to the to all mind, members leadership continued program, transformation Our hard Novae efforts and express our business, a I'd team of have real the generated our

put a on together have strong we're future. owning path forward, actions AXIS very Your and our helped

And so calls. look your and progress achievement you good Thank engagement to you updating everyone, and on future we in forward bye. to continuing for

Operator

you to The We may time, conference this now today's is attending presentation. now at concluded. And want for disconnect. you thank

AXIS Capital Holdings Limited (AXS) 25 Oct 182018 Q3 Earnings call transcript