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Stephen Haymore | Director of Investor Relations |
Mark Widmar | Chief Executive Officer |
Alex Bradley | Chief Financial Officer |
Georges Antoun | Chief Commercial Officer |
Tymen deJong | Chief Operations Officer |
Raffi Garabedian | Chief Technology Officer |
Paul Kaleta | Executive Vice President, General Counsel |
Chris Bueter | Executive Vice President, Human Resources |
Christian Ruiz | TD Magazines |
Colin Rusch | Oppenheimer & Company |
Brian Lee | Goldman Sachs |
John Segrich | Luminus Management |
Vishal Shah | Deutsche Bank |
Paul Coster | JP Morgan |
Good morning, everyone. My name is Steve Haymore, the Director of Investor Relations for First Solar. We would like to welcome you to our webcast, both those who are attending with us here at our Perrysburg, Ohio facility, as well as those that may be tuning in via the Internet. We're grateful you could be here with us today and look forward to updates from our management team on important strategic updates. There's just a couple of housekeeping items that we would like to make you aware of.
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