BCC - Earnings call transcript Q3 2017

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Christie, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Boise Cascade's Third Quarter 2017 Conference Call. At this time all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session period. begin, statements you business about anticipated performance. we may this prospects Before financial forward-looking contain the Instructions] I that remind call and [Operator company's future company guarantees performance, These update of are duty to not and statements the undertakes no them. future

management's those reflect they today, in call. expressed of or statements a results may are uncertainties. risks implied and these Actual to differ number expectations Although subject business materially from this

anticipated, of discussion It differ factors that refer conference. actual recent cause Cascade's to Cascade. results pleasure is to SEC. the may from introduce Wayne results filings the your CFO President, Mr. you of For Vice and please my the Boise Boise you to Rancourt, to begin a with Executive Treasurer Rancourt, now may

Wayne Rancourt

everyone. to Boise like Christie. Thank welcome Earnings and morning, you, Third Cascade's Business Good to Call Update. XXXX Quarter you I'd

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over Now to I the will turn call Corrick. Tom

Tom Corrick

Good call Wayne. us today. everyone. X. joining morning, earnings Thanks, Thank I our Slide for for you am on

up third quarter from billion XXXX. XX% Our were third $X.XX sales quarter of

substantially in ago from Our net both year up income stronger was the share, or $XX.X and per businesses. driven million quarter $X.XX by performances

income pricing third lumber plywood, year quarter. the segment quarter. and $XX its quarter, income than million the of in in Wood ago segment third Our more saw EWP, Manufacturing improvement business the double Wood Products on reported Products in

financial excellent the walk on $X of generate BMD outlook, taking Distribution of detail Materials advantage with then Wood the full quarter in and than with results very quarterly product I Products. before and Our Wayne back business your income another to stronger will price sales executed comments through billion. gross commodity well take particularly Building the margins, more of in segment more posted expected $XX.X come questions. million quarter in we than will more few a inflation

Wayne Rancourt

Wood sales you, our the Slide in distribution third X. segment I'm for on quarter million up from including sales were third Products quarter Thank $XXX Tom. X% XXXX.

reported partially quarter, of As the plywood, million in ago reported quarter. third lumber, Wood business Tom and was due XX% offset OSB our costs million $XX.X EBITDA up mentioned, the used the Products in million of I-joists. in income EWP sales reported EBITDA primarily the segment by for The in the prices was year from increase $XX higher of of to $XX.X EBITDA higher manufacture

this we Carolina our assets mentioned in fourth expect North morning, our quarter. of As the in Roxboro, earnings depreciation million at to additional $XX on release commence location

expense unallocated quarter million net earnings our XXXX. XXXX in release. adjusted items EBITDA $XX.X depreciation for segment $X.XXX prices compared percentage, booked higher quarter positive result of Wood higher negative depreciation. quarter million by Products or and the were income operating can year sales EBITDA The leverage. improvement EBITDA of respectively. from amounts the The volumes corporate $XX.X as $X.X quarter. in costs This segment other million in and impacting income segment with our of profit tables The and $X.X to those increased was BMD up per resulting third as of be by in quarter Our BMD $XX.X million prior and as a will sales the XXXX. of million reported in in $XX.X higher income the the was increase well driven third of million. found dollars third quarter X%, in of sales from XX% million compares of Sales negative approximately of reported margin XX% the items $X billion gross starting and gross

volumes I-joists our and X%, quarter third quarter, quarter Turning X, respectively third Slide the sales X% were compared for of expected weaker to with down XXXX. and LVL going than into we

reminder, EWP of Engineered sales from Georgia-Pacific located our two volumes the XXXX acquisition branded a Carolina quarter included As of North in EWP third and Alabama the Products the liquidation facilities Thorsby, in of Wood spring Roxboro, XXXX.

shifted Boise we the acquisition. converted of Products branded to distribution a Wood channel minority customers as Cascade As legacy partnerships Engineered GP following wholesale EWP expected our

Cascade quarter would operations consistent LVL I the three-month note volume the distribution increase periods. sales compared single-family year-ago EWP had comparative generally volumes with branded our EWP were sales the up housing in starts that volumes I-joist Boise X%. increases Our and decline X% sales with for

up in inventories they X% from I-joists. EWP LVL sequentially both their Products. reduced I-joists with LVL BMD which the third purchases the XXXX quarter pricing from did quarter their and XXth, held on realizations in Wood Products impacted of at the sales However X% and June see in Wood improvement net levels

continue in expect in fourth improvement We pricing modest quarter. EWP sequential the

Turning X; quarter XXX our sales third feet, X% Products Wood up million in quarter was plywood to from Slide XXXX. third volume

responded in production additional for September the plywood month. customer Following hurricanes in Texas and to Florida, and again we demands this

EWP a production been incremental towards production. of away have We to our able internal and veneer ship portion temporarily plywood from

weakened last our plywood flexibility quickly the remained EWP XXXX. fourth many plywood price with and weaker and quarter was plywood sales with we has in demand second oriented get marketing Wood first into than pricing seasonally quarter $XXX for more The We optimizing from regard schedules up panels days. Products half of quarter. of XX% into the entering October the response move for quarter production to Plywood average to competitors. of experience and normally favorable as also supply. in conditions net changing the third tight board third strand XX Our in has for group demand Pricing in

out. to weather scheduled In addition XXXX, winter additional year conditions late early start of in the normal OSB this was there capacity and

for quarter and part and this later early our to the next We we year. operating into watch plywood times plan continue OSB of will production mill as lead rates and

we several facilities release, of in take spending to As plywood related in we earnings quarter. downtime our in the are fourth our maintenance noted capital planning and

earnings excluding, which Company during the working much working volume interest, than driver BMD's million XX.X%, product in a in pricing [proved] in for tax On and percentage margin what items was of Slide the reported was X, quarter of growth sales third in increased $X.XXX the inventories XX%; environment better expense of to margin of capital. behind $XX.X a net accrued BMD's part by third XXXX. product we line quarter of year's leverage BMD and cash, capital increased The the from EBITDA X, gross the sales the X.X% quarter third Slide quarter BMD increased XX%. EBITDA third of I Moving commodity quarter have quarter. By $XX third products products XX% was basis of points as BMD billion, last and sales sales out BMD's quarter. X.X%. general working third meaningful and set XX our decreased capital. income steady the decline expect our said more from up XXXX. in the XX% elements in up principal area, quarter the ahead quarter were million improvement down Sales EWP XX%; key normally was margin its third we in than

in cash filed has statistical additional third receivables, down that our segment quarter the information the As payable and We detail as inventory I'm cash the sheet. for are an Exhibit by on on million Slide accounts of of a with XX.X a $XX those X. million interested. balance the X-K quarter to broken finishing $XXX reminder, our now generated

total lines. focused operating our this balance not We've left to below spending share of year our we're Directors both a in liquidity believe any capital flexibility target we've these X.X authorization. usage With $XXX quarter times our improved we us EBITDA. our third shares capital on X million generating shares on XXth decisions. approximately our our and by Our We gross did results, fronts cash now of which capital and give repurchase and Board slightly million, repurchase working bank future September our cash result original free our availability stated managing debt positive was the under committed available our at also leverage flow on approximately and of XXX,XXX of allocation additional and the on reflects

of repurchase based As share acquisition vary program our pace the and our cash our assessment of you opportunities, flow generation. free know we on our leverage

Our between and expected capital spending to is million. for the $XX $XX be year million

similar stages, planning over While wrap next we're I anticipate of Tom, the for the call preliminary will capital we up. turn to to spending. levels you in year still

Tom Corrick

starts. XXXX consensus housing U.S. starts Thanks, October Wayne. The for is X.XX million estimate

been are has This been Many in starts multi-family labor has activity for from several single family in has for While demand activity, builders outlook margin construction constraints in XXXX, log facing growth. continued declining challenges show last XXXX homes growth on which in our availability, cost the an million weakness housing to consensus pressures, for driven and improvement start months. the concentrated slowed building opinion. good has while the X.XX

to demographics X.X housing will encouraged U.S. million the I we an million support environment. by current believe remain However to market starts. normalize the X.X of continue the starts eventual in to return

is a system continue acquired environment believe margin region, EWP uncertain areas revenue demand continue in of national improves in the market Wood XXXX. of our into and at as is and four a done opportunities both pricing team growth. progress includes Wood We're takes Products veneer late the and Wood terrific and BMD XXXX. Engineered since local and continuing our on getting demand and level number drive likely control and Products a a some earnings market. pricing momentum volatile make pressure we've the utilization captures mills of stronger plywood within job higher The during produced has to on to which internally executing to traction its more to and of XXXX. BMD in off which driving Importantly, to in is Eastern seeing Products responding proportion productivity with

optimistic the point and where up and the Wood difficult at lumber at Products last earnings. fourth markets, change will and It product beginning us would this Christie, clearly extensions, and structural time. lumber this you appreciate winter, for each continue joining would look forward lines? but I elevated as We quarter rate by of was at the businesses. I avenues There's push has panels lot strengthen pricing good a in impact big earnings flow. Prices line infill and pricing our accomplished have to further market panel cash in open levels. remain of of weakened on to sales other at XXXX. few please you in this position work and our of morning. predict phone weeks. on this questions We both call drive welcome of the head at to look direction I to being any to our employees prices is a Commodity the our

Operator

first is Thank you. Instructions] of Armstrong Investment. from Our James Armstrong [Operator question

is line open. Your

James Armstrong

question is, see the obviously and seeing some First risk out of you pertinent]? that also with pricing pricing a But the versus was [what end cash weaker price most could are called environment. XQ of lags for you products what the average in talk and XQ October you was about of up your the shouldn't

Tom Corrick

settles above part environment the see a of is were was north weakened and where out, have to through generally third in the right, where quarter third total, limit come but in pricing will the last and Prices quarter December the week clearly quarter so October or third above as interesting average. average. the knowing October Yes, accelerated will it the arbitration fourth your pricing of prices quarter be

James Armstrong

lags prints that pricing between through some And in are the of you what is Lengths realizations and flow normal due are, just Random correct? you'll see what to that

Tom Corrick

generally fairly for priced in was immediate comparison a Lengths transfers, but what's [title] pretty so It's things Random good reflected when us.

and go quarterly and plywood in have high of in investor at appendix very of to Lengths we are see timing. correlation that decks, look last you'll particularly the If realizations our what compares our back Random terms degree a on composites you page the

James Armstrong

margins segment due -- lag. price they are do or Wood gears, something very Products tend nicely, business the the however decline has in when Switching that trend improving Distribution Materials Building to changed? continue Should to

Tom Corrick

I'll respond. let Nick

Nick Stokes

continue. to trend that expect will you think I

Our obviously carry and sustainable our which product commodity But and in margin margins some third terms for mix is consistent products. will EWP more from in impact of of margins mix. by the products reflective demand clearly the pricing that line general those seasonal is the prices environment of the driven the and we quarter the more in there lines variation and the had given were commodity

James Armstrong

seen you South have changes And plywood Okay. lastly any then America? in imports from

Tom Corrick

happening that line with September, was based pretty in and data Not in for much what the on I July had August. it's

remains response of will seen. supply a volumes be that on not based saw or pricing But we data. no given in delayed September there the in whether shift the be Now to October in terms certainly

Operator

Thank you.

is question Mark from Wilde of next Bank Our of Montreal.

line open. Your is

Mark Wilde

can about Coast kind them bit just are first you to line with the East of what from and of kind that EWP time seems seeing new the a seeding talk product competitor and just Coast? the with some of you are any you all, wondered, I the impact little into whether market market us assuming there come maybe from West yet poised

Dan Hutchinson

Dan Hutchinson. is, this Mark,

that yet, a they not couple have plant out. of I seen anything We opening the announced of years think have

of much So really I think it's see to early too anything.

Tom Corrick

they out served whether today. to But in and Southeastern are so more today product try they is East capacity of in that of ship or so the already second think get I the the that their not facilities 'XX plant half 'XX, of off out come markets of to on the that market. moves West in Coast make to being Yes, schedule some served are

Mark Wilde

M&A if Wayne talked then, pipeline, a priorities thought materials. you've about maybe and growth lot was of some talked of Tom, distribution where about the an for bit think through potential products areas investments you've building to in little past a maybe I trying types also of And new targeted wondered, talk there you sort move different you In or about the could from I standpoint?

Wayne Rancourt

Tom, want you fill and go take do want it? to ahead one you that do or me to

Tom Corrick

Start follow-up. I'll Wayne it then and

Wayne Rancourt

a our there is we in and materials would opportunity that building think I and further where in on customer but currently product relationships arena Mark is the side, emphasis lines we're than right -- predominantly distribution now channel primarily to have. an maybe the think trying the support to find different in focus we

obviously, roofing things wallboard competition like other that and lines gotten we've in product we've if door you customers find like our support we some looked that partners. distribution at in where ourselves as they current there're our there's So would great and our done installation, additive. with see from that shop Atlanta, But

returns, family to not So we're be that private that do doing only if it's and residential benefit material competing going we a clearly think And If to cash go [indiscernible] or into Nick look but looking what try find at I adjacencies we say issue with other construction. from to our a that focus, were his line. building we to related to enter that or others, may shareholder can't augment because other a equity team use environments at we'll get to distribution single ourselves shareholders. we're good ways as continues

Tom Corrick

distribution to would add [indiscernible] I we look also Mark at pretty continue for And markets our that aggressively business.

both And of focused so on activity lot there's internally those a of opportunities.

Operator

Thank you.

is next of Our question Goldman Brian Sachs. from Maguire

open. Your is line

Brian Maguire

particularly to segment, maybe I than on and about in job more to to the came of about XX% you distribution also great margin, the you gross last getting call think Wayne in the basis the that. talked XX points XX.X% in Just reiterate kind there, margins

you'd So get of that I'm thinking excess of sharply to a to rising you impact XX the margins just the rising added gross the months Products to trying what maybe it environment, was basis back? quantify would thought about points you Wood the say couple --

Wayne Rancourt

XX in the in state went the lift, don't of fourth I and world, full was the that pricing a basis something second certainly that know approaching XX and in clearly third side and in and what environment, quarters. was first high but XXs quarter a I in panel on steady it the particularly think something the points big

seasonal We of have on the price billion the was line good demand get points some kind you and and of can the general normal commodity take if above EWP. products But EBITDA impact more for a of basis sales pretty you in lift. XX.X well of sense X XX

Brian Maguire

was Products, kind the And some was that volumes, Any within talked to was look little just have prices prices quantify ability advantage shift expect little are still of veneer. a what had you bit volume there an earnings light, shift on bit also XQ I taking with and and to you a of I the higher Wood you would on? the but the as that kind like year-over-year guess plywood impact had better it of EWP shifting continue of at that to then do kind that tough think comp seemed and high about going to a

Wayne Rancourt

volumes the things when you in of at playing is I it. couple think into quarter a third there the look

earlier had EWP. if in at first we you announced quarter the price the volumes strong so First, look particularly in got year the were the increase that in they

So I those there we strictly pull the given slowdown was probably Florida, and as think did in which into in in we the hurricane markets third and occur. in Texas quarter got others starts housing some forward and anticipated

then And get buy to over their September had so they in third quick on we which customer from EWP EWP much impact able in And $X I by deliveries. to direct inventory Wood in quarter respond a little and they million a particularly we volumes were dropped think Products. that BMD the the plywood sufficient how has mills more to request to at

lot from those EWP EWP. any EWP give in inventories and business. hand in the of So and of inventories of But production funded Wood the particularly on out of BMD plywood month sales we South and essentially out up in didn't September we towards in Products sales, a shifted the we hand away

were quarter, fourth get but as and availability the in as go a South. get certainly more plywood will in into I could anticipate we would much a the schedule to shift we as into similar October production, doing we So trying normal

Tom Corrick

are what obviously the by and the volume to report. driven production flow determine order we the we going side clearly numbers I numbers on so sales on Then is would, but manage the will is we takeaway to

Brian Maguire

Thanks the strong some that planned environment in helps. Any delay of still? we are the defer really pricing plywood maintenance to given

Dan Hutchinson

Dan. this No, I think -- we is are to going

we We we anyway. start reduction mill and to as are you get into demand has it Wayne it going see later quarter ahead just as think take the yourself take this you when if so likely deferring trouble things and are a I in -- to noted feed will

Brian Maguire

me, that at one of Okay. And conversations dividend, it shareholders a return times. the said implementing the one fixed is or you from way sort a even given target to level X.X whether Any growth the stock just at below maybe last leverage the dividend noted you as to or variable a special that cash liquidity? would Board be around

Tom Corrick

say of sheet the relevance would our has has we as Board as I EBITDA. that's several meetings, it reported and trailing improve. particularly Yes, certainly more -- the you as continued the timely last on been to look really top become the in -- at balance It would I as September describe conversation if

our position. So will Thursday need management top shareholders on the with find I least barring to we the we but team to constructive in any the will on together our cash pursuing acquisition acquisitions, given leverage of certainly believe view return think Board of yet when at side, I our be Dallas, given are again the to are a don't Board rush way immediate we on things conversation. and our in I suspect it the there is

Operator

you. Thank

of of Staphos America. George from Bank is question next Our

line open. is Your

George Staphos

I to were you back making. come want a to just point

hit EWP missed the build or with veneer you capacity was more able because were I in for XQ, EWP So inventories it, and I build during design available you it did was the might if did then by and the anticipated I the plywood in quarter in the apologize, is market inventory it had than have to it -- quarter?

Dan Hutchinson

again. Dan George this Hutchinson is

have to Our allows and changeovers business customers service our less [indiscernible]. us better sell model to EWP of out is quite us It inventory. allows frankly to the

George Staphos

normal you're above what is inventories not was it saying? But

Dan Hutchinson

side. demand, what Correct. drop or but No, pick above up saw plywood from significant And a in bit a EWP the manufacturing little have I think been, then should obviously quarter the was the it in was or a side. a in we pickup

I So I don't think think we oversupplied, were in we're good shape.

pointed in to and customer satisfy on job Wayne all do inventory side. still able as better a reduction the we demands EWP as make were a plywood well As the

Tom Corrick

Tom. is This

I April, not the starts, when Nick housing think On in as pace June. been of would in I manufacturing, May, the side manufacturing will general has let you just guessed have include but we particularly as comment, robust back

line stronger as come we activity little would building were just second a So, side inventories season through while the on and to we then third BMD, in a over more into probably quarter. and the anticipating bit and relative were demand didn't market fruition moved probably to the multi-family quarter that in

Nick Stokes

to fourth sure get this [requesting] inventories add pretty the Products Nick, inventory what George more the and second I so to quarter to in the quarter we was remains And expect inventories on variation The severe logistics we constant, demand anticipate quarter customers going inventories. level had prudent moderate you and And given the quarter that make are other solid. you'll the any a higher downturn. a probably third our needed within we would unless saw I our normalized were thing reduction we stay I'd and I some is Wood think inventory EWP bit on see having, that of wouldn't transportation in issues EWP certainly a in little seasonal

George Staphos

for the that why was record the is branded aggregation yes nothing that, that was just right? X% understand else in if Boise comparative I And basis, line beyond And on -- I-joist there's your but I for is that heard I'll down quarter the volume correctly? answer your

Tom Corrick

South as a there's more in been say demand story LVL. to demand you that starts I single the relative of housing say can't construction, for as strong the get on of slab I's and more get the and volumes, grade start given for lot has the I-joists on moving been things not a X% basis, would lot quarter-on-quarter down the think I have

years the I think lumber couple to same relative a don't ago, more static. I-joists So, I we rate got it's penetration of think you've had dimension

George Staphos

to EBITDA just and I if comments over. it know don't To On I margins go BMD couple be others of past think back higher. X%. we've always your back to And you are just incremental X% the I with this I'll something turn I suggesting an kind miscalculated the that were a quarter on assumed north Nick number came moved then of fair, outlook so basis from have which unless I was of theoretical up

and mentioned be You volume in leverage that incorporated but would sales a normal incremental margin.

So the if we forward, else our at there's I models that degree we should we some wondering, isolate was to anything at of as profit in least was BMD amount managing should be project for an margin in well? try inventory as that there

Tom Corrick

Nick.

Nick Stokes

think the opposite sales happens. certainly the inventory an the third on relates prices, line declining valuable quarters, to EWP our and best is I what commodity additional last calls over in the as of it it the seasonal creates margin margin and way conversations guidance and mix. going the the and more quarter, the in When you on patterns And that in get the the into general should an describe forward, would is more environment few normalized the we in side. opportunities I given volume opportunities previous Wayne's that expect you environment had becomes have we

Wayne Rancourt

and that meaningful sales where would price in read X% on to shift into we been drop had the that I through normal growth has expect would in X.X% a in will not quarter, the the we stability. as reasonable we have a leverage normalized environment pricing anything third there

a think the quarter. XX% I product what has seeing lot do leverage this to on you the inflation with are

George Staphos

at of if bogey as between and of X% X.X% that assume profit? saw a inventory you delta Wayne use most and what looked to So we that kind we then should that's the

Wayne Rancourt

off example Not goods XXX cost. the for of our so to [sales are margin is], replacement buying just price that sold are a XXX at and it there extent try we the to we to our inventory something going goes to but the cost XXX

that not earlier in it's we of referred the the have the sold. cost XX as points kind it's side, reselling that commodity mean So [shuffle] and inventory, I drop stuff would would probably want related that of EBITDA and margin been ending the but to that. guys than how are even just model I out more quarter I gross frankly goods -- million commodity you to that could just have buying of And to basis I excess tail to the X attribute or number through you something and wind

Operator

you. Thank

Our Chercover from Steve next question is D.A. Davidson. of

line open. Your is

Steve Chercover

questions freight having any Some ask your of to have are all difficultly you But I answered. first of my whether want in with been markets?

Nick Stokes

disruptions things. it difficult. here or and Generally origins to ago, but is, from of kinds this was Steve, destinations. rail issues our from it's the Nick Storm trucking than diverted some speaking expensive the through of transportation were is still of third some today or South have some better number to relatively answer utilization and XX and that different it's problematic and ago flatbed scarce environment spot a There the were of very we Stokes. many The the reasons. days is Certainly was the yes. quarter Southeast XX for of days trucks in relatively

Steve Chercover

that would did response expected I and that's Well, lumber that I'm that impasse they is and the could margins be, are reasonable? areas they Does if because freight. are the people by into sure otherwise so stickier would than high a that their sufficiently you freight that that kind panel actually in prices I'm these short, extension product love move making wondering, bit this to seem of get think regions other

Nick Stokes

tell value. wants creates out. BMD have impact on the and commodity one deliver prices, freight's I'll it figure that to I'm it, that [manage What in on speculate the and an leave other to having enough others to not that that or to grade] for is it you the to I smart the capacity when customer product opportunity extent the capability people channel will

Steve Chercover

is And decision an have distribution still are for just I think point? sense Wayne's because this at would and comments that just wondering, dividend you're looking the otherwise easier and then from expectations secondly, priority [seller] be acquisitions, the reasonable I I'm

Wayne Rancourt

is transacted there's the in combined be sense price that our into priority add reasonable sellers But network, fit conversations we that some don't ongoing our to and/or basis levels distribution things that have I ability doesn't would requirements, still And and private a it tell when will at return to then we clearly they it we our our shareholders at Yes, fold feel makes with ones where we've on moved expectations have where moment. -- like equity the to us. think our you business. value the for it for that relative

Steve Chercover

then maybe of And near a is acquisitions, but be instant? as think doesn't accretion we proxy, say the your fair is to that have criteria GP it it to if term

Wayne Rancourt

expansions MSAs, we can acquire sheet value we'd but makes those say, can I harder we look relationships next to we has sense a balance recovered of strong tend value that them those do long Yes, over time instantaneous, it locations with and but it doing to you that, earlier a what something economics And defensible hauls do of as acquisition lot XX we side distribution, those. have as on independent that's But foothold obviously table map to it's at sense be add line to and create we small that we'll in infill franchise has can XX makes And if to economics and on marketplace. if I clearly to may business those doesn't as think comment the out our housing and over and we today where U.S. time, about about trying an pull is for like think with be able location get a we and to a mean as clearly us, in where some of we're there's you to if to a more and business we're some Corrick's the a MSAs the of of to got many to it bring at work doing bring there's volumes existing has value all make if can. find acquisitions. of distributor markets freight major we the overlap keep infill try relatively the or product

Steve Chercover

Got it.

Wayne Rancourt

a [rightful] So do is be case, way aligned culturally see team and significantly going the revenues. we with up probably and to jobs business the where more likely opportunity I ramp to think we there's be the to are where business the this

Operator

you. Thank

Chip Our Research. next Dillon is question from of Vertical

open. line is Your

Chip Dillon

that First there's mentioned to would that question out you it the and want is number on wondering, you're I'm be on just another one CapEx, at? the involved roughly a normal would next in -- looking call year just flat anything if be the that that maintenance about beyond -- you quick

Wayne Rancourt

roofs, of that capital the there's real a of a Engineered additional the going capital Wood on or XX stuff. Nick's project in Northeast -- XXs business smaller projects got kind estate, we're and couple includes return number of of at. capacity next of business working for a that probably real $X back paving, we of would in looking estate is right for now business for related incremental on typically rest about bring the that acquiring we've high for year, we that Nick's in we're supporting the in In some land that stock, there business. are the majority in so into and million it The Nick's maintenance some that and little bit be some we still There's in capital. Eastern plan rolling as the spending would Wood And low region our a penciled

Chip Dillon

an estate, taking making it existing you location? When real distribution or and just bigger say a maybe adding location

Wayne Rancourt

then and efficient bigger responding we've bring solutions. am lease some growth the adjacent put mechanics on and end and we've we out long-term about property assuming through the of up in we particular and been one Making we've essence thinking and locations apart had operating location on sales market it improvements will two most it some we that warehouse in is that it and and can storing our office. I work a under But of that's been it locations two in mile a not the in to terms buying

got were we doing buy a the the in property process when that. to So adjacent of chance we

Chip Dillon

there less? heard six Roxboro when reason you that right or the Is a and depreciation million like I you years the implied about schedules And investment. $XX turn $X mentioned would up million annualized a then depreciation if you on it's only be

Wayne Rancourt

Roxboro the for at and were age the assets expect be bring life, at we take replacement used useful and the over capital we years. XXXX them think and the look will cycle a in into idled assets are forward we we as Yes, back to what what trying were that in we account the

why that's put it. book on we life ahead went a and so shorter And

close take So will and basis basically up. annual pretty a perfect likely X, but divide end number, on get where an you by it's if X not that's you XX, to we

Chip Dillon

aimed do question take the for out that it. the mentioned that And might of getting fairly missed then you question and just have talking to that that last conservative. Okay. are to products I to locations deal and have are types construction, sell different your made as should about at saying that But question guess with would bases? acquire distribution with of And about but locations missed has M&A different into earlier just you and you your building commercial opening is areas are diversify customer being I to I I've is comments obliviously focus you that this, the distribute -- within products single-family. my new you would or might

Tom Corrick

Yes.

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Chip Dillon

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Operator

Thank you.

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Daniel Jacome

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Dan Hutchinson

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Nick Stokes

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Daniel Jacome

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Tom Corrick

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Operator

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Mark Wilde

got just here. some cleanups I

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Wayne Rancourt

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Tom Corrick

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Mark Wilde

in incremental you way EWP also a what of the expecting to any -- price are in fourth in is terms quarter? sense there Is of get there

Wayne Rancourt

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Mark Wilde

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Dan Hutchinson

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Nick Stokes

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Mark Wilde

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Tom Corrick

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Mark Wilde

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Nick Stokes

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Mark Wilde

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Nick Stokes

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Mark Wilde

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Nick Stokes

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Operator

Thank you.

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George Staphos

of off. finish Just a couple quick ones me from to

fair million just trying million pencil that the in $X quarter, would all or the out, mean be it to in XQ? First Wood of in OSB impact I $X the I was

Nick Stokes

Yes in right the that's probably range.

Wayne Rancourt

that -- of some year-over-year. like XX think think I year-to-date I said we

Nick Stokes

at XX use the of third foot look about feet about quarter I's. OSB foot million we're generally if we at of square veneer X so volumes, every in our you and I-joists Yes, for

Wayne Rancourt

Yes.

Nick Stokes

you can… So,

George Staphos

there. We math can the do from

Nick Stokes

Yes from you there. can do the math

George Staphos

that so question still And coming before, as that trajectory had XQ and say inventory it normal fourth I to would time and XQ high or on touch given fourth are fact begin to of and quarter? or then to normal subject are prices more and the it, than maybe you next a put they are be be the fair inventories couple your quarter entering at to BMD, maybe question the year you quarters then of it Mark's in other volatility relatively this for lower answer they looking on than would in but the the the normally just BMD

Nick Stokes

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Operator

like Thank the to Corrick you. any to back our Q&A And further remarks. call today. I'd that session for Mr. turn conclude Tom over does for

Tom Corrick

Thanks, Christie. progress. Thanks as for our appreciate to We everyone third the very results. We're ever calling. Great. pleased on you opportunity obviously update with our quarter

starting on their say While terms to we're pricing, to with and good forward starting seasonal we -- get see everyone of with the morning optimistic slowdown very day. as let I'll that, while we're look XXXX. now in remain demand and we typical And

Operator

all thank Everyone, in disconnect. have you Ladies today's for may you day. and does today's conference. great program, a gentlemen, conclude participating This and

Boise Cascade (BCC) 31 Oct 172017 Q3 Earnings call transcript