BCC - Earnings call transcript Q3 2021

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Chris, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Boise Cascade's Third Quarter 2021 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

Before we begin, I remind you that this call may contain forward-looking statements about the company's future business prospects and anticipated financial performance. guarantees to performance, update not undertakes the are duty no them. statements of and future company These

Although these uncertainties. statements implied subject differ to reflect from in management's expectations number materially business today, this of call. risks expressed and those Actual may a results or they are

Kelly For of is introduce filings recent with that SEC. It the Senior may to to actual results Hibbs, Cascade's a from to results CFO you to Boise Boise my President, discussion now you pleasure Mr. differ Cascade. conference. anticipated, may factors and cause please Vice refer the your begin Treasurer, Hibbs,

Kelly Hibbs

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Mike Jeff our Products Joining me on Head today's Strom, call Materials CEO; Head Operations; Wood Brown, are Distribution and our our Nate Building of operations. of Jorgensen,

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Nate Jorgensen

Kelly. on Thanks, three. Slide Thank morning, us for my number call earnings Good for our joining everyone. today you

were sales third $X.X Our quarter XX% billion of third from XXXX. quarter up

compared $XX.X or was the in income or net Our $X.XX share income $X.XX to per million of share net per million quarter. $XXX.X year ago

volumes housing senior primary we housing to our year. tax of extinguishment U.S. family starts of on X%, refinanced compared loss At debt XXXX, results X%. sales after per driver period XXXX the million quarter $X.XX share $XX.X the last increased our Third as a included third Single increased starts or same total notes. quarter

ongoing declines prices during simply and the was face and a performance in historic related quarter associates COVID-XX. outstanding commodity challenge Our

price from quarter, Products manufacturing benefited million year's strong to quarter. $XX actions. decreases continued and by to resulting compared quarter. EWP realizations were the third million improved income Wood some the Wood year third price pricing compared plywood partially $XXX.X plywood Products EWP business and higher period pricing volumes increases ago in Sequentially, last Our sales offset in levels of segment prior from reported

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Kelly Hibbs

quarter segment Woods quarter XXXX. including third in Nate. $XXX.X million compared you, $XXX.X to the were from sales distribution our Product million, Thank sales in third

million amounts and was $XX.X EBITDA tables commodity EBITDA quarter our by million. in reported declines items volume can decline offset XX%, million of The BMD of reported As of income income quarter. volumes. costs The increase reported a expenses percentages offset XX% was unallocated year to segment negative segment billion, other decrease quarter. during the resale was sales income are for earnings from primarily gross The impacting quarter. was be of and The and items $XXX.X mentioned found Reported were was third of net million release. improvements adjusted commodity line of by in in of of reported margin corporate segment XXXX. $XX.X $X.X EBITDA year from and the prices, by quarter. prices as million These increase Products $XXX.X in our in as primarily and related by higher for those $XX gross segment the prior quarter the decreased $X.X for driven quarter certain of in sharp Sales prior prices up the from inventory in decrease which a million third costs through of partially and wood purchase as The were and or sales $XX higher primarily compensation. well third negative plywood income sales in $X.X a decline $XXX of EBITDA year quarter the $XXX.X million a higher EWP Wood third on to volumes margins partially million employee price million, from for quarter The relates EBITDA quarter, to lower The Nate to products, well fiber in business This up compared million, XXXX. the offset million, $XX.X impacts X%. margin $XXX.X distribution income resulting decrease of sales sales general selling EWP due in million ago of incentive business $X to XXXX. expenses million XXXX in third lower as negative in compared with higher programs. most the due EWP, third customer segment lumber compares

corporate self-insured In addition, at approximately part program. Wood as level risk facilities absorbed related our interruption retention business of third $X.X losses, quarter at of XXXX million included Products to results estimated the disruptions

up with quarter third respectively be fueled to third quarter through and quarter LVL and up housing sales through strong and for XXXX. XX% Demand quarter compared third Slide I-joists starts. XX% EWP compared XXXX. I-joists Turning quarter XX% were continue by increased second LVL our the respectively in X, and X% Pricing for to with were volume

price take arrangements announced and protection to temporary price continue increases certain expired. effect As previously

million X, volume feet products third sales in to Turning third compared plywood XXXX. wood Slide XXX in was our XXX to feet million quarter quarter

to and price quarter. quarter XXXX. However, in balancing in demand disruptions pandemic XXXX were rolling plywood and was per X% average up plywood sales third net due curtailments from The related to sales during third quarter taken sequentially volumes supply down additional assist third XXX XX%

wood third prices during the plywood other sharply declined not decreasing commodity products, However sequentially. XX% quarter, unlike

As still third plywood approximately are price in but we below fourth quarter pricing quarter quarter third exited average had levels. XX% realizations the far stabilized, thus

XX.X% Slide Moving prices in third billion BMD's the by BMD's was XX% during line area from BMD's quarter to sales increased for in evident The EWP million quarter. third compared product up X.X% for last XX%. the quarter year. The was Gross $XXX.X X%, XX% product X.X% $X.X commodity in By sales reported the increased basis XXXX. X, from dollars in results. declined and general quarter from reported BMD is XXXX. gross points BMD's were increased sales the the quarter same in the quarter to EBITDA third generated margin margin year-ago quarter X.X% margin XXX down down quarter commodity sharp decline percentage third

impact volumes well million expenses Demand margin higher the for BMD's helped general offset EWP positioned have of and decreased remains falling commodity sales and and commodity However and percentages the distribution well as prices. exited we $X.X line healthy, commodity products inventory gross as was selling of as third stabilized prices quarter.

quarter stability sharp slide I'm through finding levels starting gross and on second Given This pricing this anticipate September. normalize backdrop, X. quarter. continuing Slide returning in now in the quarter late third of in before lumber decline the fourth the majority the we shows margins to

consumption in I'm those $XXX XX, $XXX now and product continue the quarter increase Lengths fell. our liquidity receivable, to on available liabilities. billion million panel accounts composite rates, be in deceleration total both at operating dividends cash quarter. the information of capital with the committed key accrued elements commodity of could third cash chain price broken On income detail. the Exhibit third quarter move by uncertainties and Turning under XXXX. which items, industry as the million be reflects interest Slide lumber receivables, winter statistical September Slide down strength of has which our all decreased accrued of with we X-K will by of September in labor. levels capital. the end-market influenced well. excluding we in volatile tax Commodity debt rebates seasonal availability increase challenges of be interested and as We from $X.X by lagging outstanding Index approximately accrued payable working likely have X, finished XX, inventory out decreased data contributed Pricing had The we ongoing price the declines impacts with reflects third as million our to cash, the quarter pricing line. as in Slide through although movements Accounts weather, at quarter. accounts to and for our our the the to during XX.X set segment declined Random inventory fourth $XXX.X and to payable sales sharp XX was payable supply could determined An somewhat XX current bank filed Networking the of pricing and

XXXX expenditures $XX in approximately expect We to million. $XXX capital million total to

Our capital and utilization expansion and market. in project our Florien new capabilities a plant, includes spending in of the plywood center in XXXX veneer Houston, completion assembly our Nashville at of door operation log a distribution

Looking are to range $XXX from million capital expectations forward excluding million. $XXX to for XXXX, our current spending, to acquisitions

time purchases expenditure to capital range Construction availability an spending. as influence Engineering on resources, and is have availability and timing XXXX equipment wide at purposely XXXX expected this of Our is of and

growth, including number a In lease of exercise or addition, factors economic purchase our decrease results capital organic as spending could acquisitions, financial to a also and efforts accelerate increase conditions. result future further of options, of

with rate Our activity XX% increases ongoing be federal rates. expected future XX% is the between tax to and legislation that effective tax potential

quarterly with our a approved our payment. Our share board increase recently effective or in December dividend XX% $X.XX dividend per

payment a of strategies, share, in of In and higher targeted sufficient of opportunities. to remain dividend After addition, also positioned dividend acquisition growth XXXX. $X than in Board of balance, focused the remain execution supplemental on organic second the our well approved with cash light supplemental our per the reserve of future including cash we our dividend, supplemental

returns remains business objective shareholder back on our grow over appropriate our We'll to discuss to generating business Nate it capital. turn overarching successfully outlook. to Our while

Nate Jorgensen

and residential the consensus for XX. The strength be new rates, U.S. XXXX practices on we starts work Chip from X.XX XXXX million into continuation year. October The for million demand for activity I'm construction for home mortgage construction favorable, XXXX. of by in expect to Blue supported the to next remainder Slide and continue many, environment Kelly. is X.XX U.S., housing for demographics by low residential Thanks, in number continues of

addition, age remodel availability repair stock In provide favorable U.S. home to will limited backdrop continue of housing a inventory spending. for the and

Although homebuilders extend labor we times reporting activity U.S. many and and believe are forecast build shortages, national may residential to housing starts, limit on the strong and support activity. demographics supply current to construction induced constraints the of near-term level backlogs, continue

of homebuyers cost pace construction, activity In building may of consumer addition, wage affected pricing the prospective access to rates, offset strong help materials other the financing repair factors. impact and of interest efforts EWP and pricing. and traction EWP remodeling mortgage growth, and and well maintained as residential on and Demand economic will confidence from has affordability, plywood be by housing construction lower impacts remains for as

as positioned. to excited Houston have those Nashville teams input and assembly our focus are to labor to BMD in contributed good well is across continue those shortages. BMD, our our door remains help expansion environment inventory all we'll and mitigate We're always, appreciate our on operational operation our corporate demand As address costs innovation in a efforts. the base rising and means In and customer who

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Operator

Yes, sir.

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Mark Wilde

Good morning, Nate.

Nate Jorgensen

Good morning, Mark.

Mark Wilde

and end out you just the last at a you of out, sequential Just public talk EWP that I week. if one just is start to a of big could price I was I timing was pricing. of market. least at end wondered reported with the us your how quite sort wondered peers bit if of bit. think help I some the Nate, smaller guys, your could in little mean, the increase I unpack protection you about mean, much mix? that mentioned than

trying next just know to three take to of about quarters? kind think always difference of EWP four that or think quarters to ahead couple So the about the prices I what lies in? and over roll also

Nate Jorgensen

Mark. Yes,

I can't of down timing, of in the whatnot. reference, what versus the had, they have period of to the maybe and what yes, us So the the comparison announcements channel mean, rebates of and speak mechanisms terms in what they I terms

increases and So would protection can't be announcing the yes, But Mark announced wouldn't from guidance price I sequential move say here, terms did kind feel couple - little here XX% we've roll compare mid-to-high across kind we you we to layer us, get guess in digits see to good on a forward I of really give on to a that as mechanisms forward, I'd quarters of that. continue about specific that. the would benefits looking venture and sequential single we for our product the lines, as to the and And I we next of of off. to XX% got

Mark Wilde

Kelly, clear, And be single to is sequentially just quarters? for couple a digits of mid-to-high that

Kelly Hibbs

Yes, Mark.

Mark Wilde

it facility EWP sense capacity? Oregon, there get what's it mean, in of Is on from Is typically horizon? new to possible, Carolina that ago. of know a around big a I a little South don't lot the out a we see held I while of sort put Okay. privately company announcements some possible

running. incrementally is a you business sense that us But and of give think your I up can EWP? is and out lines what there in general

Mike Brown

hear from Yes, Mark. to you. it's Mike. morning, Good Good

Mark Wilde

Mike. Hi,

Mike Brown

but the most - struggle point same capacity facility you the that spoken near shortage bit they being that know with fiber to, wasn't a EWP sort to online necessary EWP products, capacity since veneer, more this just struggling a EWP not in previously, and in referred there's are and of to But at is say in they make the incremental of anywhere any being namely of equipment manufacturing in say I like, additional get that if not area there I'm many we'll to I as running, that particularly about always workforce to become available continue any about of the types are able those would a necessary the time. with up all this in significance what that not that's brought there the run I of might you I've types shift certainly so running Yes, from of is hear. prices to go would at plywood are and transformational sort of been declined. issues it thought that has sector, little or availability. huge others the that aware

to of there's X been little projects horizon has say a maybe about the but then, capacity. I'm add additional So produced now EWP to X bit than let's months ago, no more big are aware on that that

Mark Wilde

of track. harder it's kind to That's anything. again, little helpful. But Mike. hadn't seen I a

in the Can just you than commodity results sort drag the I quite you falling me were weaker general, that about on during and we third think, for losses inventory any expected. quarter? from have distribution might the the a bit talk of last taken prices question

Kelly Hibbs

sure. Kelly, jump if I'll first want. Yes, at others is Mark, crack it this take they can and in

finding that I August in at September. to, some June million $XX then if comments against well through roughly So, And to quarter, you second XX. inventory you would were and may from speaking BMD's from when price look July LCM you fell a commodity the prices substantially about we recorded we our stability had we the you tell you're attuned recall that crash at before

in of we lot and August of the BMD say wreckage July of I terms job would in our in turning inventory, - say income I that turning a team statement inventory. did in as there were was So our a priced high in and liquidating would nice

And as gross I comments, high get And moved we position, don't the about as our levels return we our end We've feel normalize we alluded through - to margins the we to have price we of quarter. fourth so of when to inventory. LCM. good in the and move that an September, can we

Mark Wilde

Kelly. Okay, that's really helpful.

Nate Jorgensen

of Mark, I the that I look position. as we the think customers think well incredibly we inventory I maybe that Kelly comment as about on And that dependence, is, distribution some And think, quick think described, business. our capital. on we our on probably just bit another I quarter, feel think our will see supports we I people as have are grow, distribution think working a continue about the measured to speaks good their more at

our we marketplace as some as inventory the forward also position, and - feel out. close dependency that about feel the increase of maybe So will quarter, the good move we XXXX. in from we but good actually

Mark Wilde

Okay, that's it Thank helpful. Nate. I'll over, you. turn

Nate Jorgensen

Great. Thanks, Mark.

Operator

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George Staphos

Good Thanks. as Hope outgoing. morning. Hi, you're everyone. details. Thanks the for doing well

Kelly Hibbs

George. morning, Good

Nate Jorgensen

good Hi, George. morning,

George Staphos

you Congratulations in you're obviously pricing on But from boomerang seeing to they're happy activity, having related maybe question, effect if happen of getting some with point. prices given the those of market want are your what there quarter. now? are a lumber, of their any share time, very higher since then And demand traditional right that I that to little the to same the kind the that on bit to lumber that in in and labor about customers prices seeing market at a homes, effect competing getting. you're at getting are And deal on shortages. the that. They're and could some is Are traction at dimensional loss dig any any good relative low. EWP obviously, all to

be plans next of could retard business are either or some the you'll customers of doing in building XXXX? for year their that trends your that benefit seeing what So terms in

Kelly Hibbs

is two of - there a So I think there, part let me George.

the then one, take me it pass maybe one. Nate Let the second to first I'll and on

to in environment challenge. see one and labor reference - example, if that solid. you don't. do is of some the we a file still you We demand first And really environment. of the terms sort X/XXs, your So EWP will pricing relative and is The from for a as EWP for sort shift away got the of order EWP

And much for is job EWP builders install. them site so home a to the on more product efficient the national

That I frames really we see broad so be back. some bit on really them a suppose on but now And the again, little things scale, change? transitioning we and don't there shift see Might might a that small it. might don't

Nate Jorgensen

how second your maybe George, trends Hi, the are can are on you kind of what of to describing and question some us. maybe customers

I demand. the the that we're experiencing into - housing we of cadence 'XX. And job And expect in and industry's range good stability capabilities theme I a of close what services of of head I a on have has be we and starts their done practically builders as 'XX improved more next a and the as probably close think is kind consistency. head year of matching as And I out think to terms so kind to cadence products we 'XX. into think that on of

of price is range looking the In and segments. momentum But there of many like by relative and across in confidence geographies, things in of many hearing we're to the close number are such. think again, confidence, across a or all terms or out interest multifamily, points next that's good of at a what is, think experiencing we and the family, terms them And and I commercial, as this of that builders they're looking think, I year I of single supported I headed getting things year. affordability across us at think their and to kind rates markets from the even

in in And think in cadence what have us of I maybe feel I close 'XX. out So 'XX, feel of kind about and good front is think the it'll as market. and what we around kind a again, we're similar we experiencing of look

George Staphos

and and XXXX, on a square the we're addition footage you seeing it, if the home office that and quick any if there? up you're the thoughts to growth homes, the know, of And needed another to quick bit mass your schooling your are just on a home homes, relative floor level mass and be that? on of earlier or in plans or they're on Are on different about your seemed of could towards you pretty timber, for the last it high space lockdown, from year this relatively that. a of timber addition it's developments And what drive discussion if facilities little you follow would said, a lot had smaller for Thanks. then hearing customers expectations in you one around which there? rooms quarter Recognize talk interest, he in other seeing, be consistent, going

Nate Jorgensen

your We be than of a in think more what bit a for, think and a also bit months point kind place will I looking that there office, kind of of pressure people kind I flexibility includes to it's maybe down the things continue been the in Sure. of we're it the ago, be like to of And continues But component. trends a maybe maybe something closely. bit think Yes, the six some needs settled gotten as theme, of schooling think terms of and XX I little think have place. home optionality some less deliver and are flexibility in the home certainly a living is those schooling, behind the watching a maybe I home was and footprint to what space, kind the little home normalized. or months there and have as ago. terms in that recreation carefully little And it's of

a it as mass and timber, then we Brown. or solution. comment two, over I'll important see mass an hand Yes, Mike to In to timber terms quick of make continue

we're site, like construction wood capability solves the like think kind that marketplace. add concrete. and story of Mike, compared of as any well as and do the forward? or commercial move to kind we as opportunity it terms we're brings the at We obviously high the job want you In But, of where in on a terms how number as carbon in problems about comments construction thinking steel of that to of

Mike Brown

sure, Nate. Yes

But I George, by from add U.S. six some sort across some this firmly with been in I'd organic, months. last with If matter that we do opportunities watching months. to at great that of of stage, we sort at whether the XX others just interest. over we're to decide a companies of in The progresses XX watching, based And how the wait guess, through the it we'll XX have and the some of we through offshore. future, over that certainly see believe, next and there'll So and timing, States, investments we some evaluate be that looked great position. have acquisition. opportunities We're made to to or that. United at the that believe come market interest It's

George Staphos

I'll thanks. you. guys. over Thank right, All turn

Mike Brown

Thanks, George.

Nate Jorgensen

George. Thanks,

Operator

Thank you.

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Charles Perron

Susan is Hi, Thanks for Perron Charles question. in everyone. for This today. my taking

on to margins want circle and looking QX. going to First, BMD just I EBITDA back into the at

levels. mentioned You think ago margin margin to And at stabilization given year normal QX a think commodity realistic given you conditions? this in the I performance recent should is prices. current Do that similar the point at return

Kelly Hibbs

it's find going to is and QX I margins look about if quarter you above I pricing, Is EBITDA fourth remain I in what But trajectory? what the you that firm. ago, Yes, fourth we of stability sideways? be then and Is And lot line third Is - far the the might gross be very reported and of periods. in probably so relative that's we've Yes, it the be value of - will yes, if gross so XX%. would we the is in will posted. BMD just what influence if is it commodity if for would suspect margins much now a EWP seen on but little that we've general a than say normalized should say BMD. achievable. holds, so it X.X%. our XX% quarter certainly, looked - But of bit have quarter large for us the results margin and at well that some down? results what of the That's up? year That a a higher seen we

Charles Perron

good very very color. That's it. Got Thanks Kelly. much,

Just demand, some if of and side peers have activity into so Labor far. similar what year-end? a follow-up pickup well have of lumber commented wondering activity was on seen on your you post Day. the our pickup as the DIY And on going I expectations

Nate Jorgensen

Charles, Hi, Jorgensen. Nate it's

of with of think, experiencing were, and was in strength on third And we're it's think stability segment. as each quarter across good we certainly, I there coaster, customer roller - geographies. finished think bit the terms that the a products your our today of the I that range I of the do-it-yourself. and across of was vacant, in services, quarter Obviously, And a point in the quarter. the terms they somewhat early the

and the of repair expectation remodeler. into of thinking especially think our well. in professional segment, and I the We they're So balance feel remodel on good about, about terms year how as XXXX the this

specific again, in with customer about good is that and that that little I momentum So feel the bubble think us was behind QX we experienced largely that today.

Charles Perron

squeeze Thanks Nate can And just I one last that. for one. if

capacity year, at to want looks adding highlight remarks, business you Looking prepared variability guide it's the it there, but understand be versus want you or as I your CapEx your market area to quite current the think for your next this of in you year. project any mentioned you where like conditions? given any up that in now nicely

Nate Jorgensen

Yes.

let me I and let others Charles, can start So they then jump fit. in see as

increase our really which is part is What adding reference existing capacity. terms in not to of in as our would of I I invest allocation base. that So asset reference it strategy, would capital

us, type that's our what some bit commonly to capabilities. And So spending. going supporting products all we're as replacement to accelerate you've for us and little in infrastructure about veneer a try certainly heard and internal

replacing And then example. replacement so plan infrastructure plant, there's want a plywood dryer South work done. some to Southeast, on and facility. projects Oakdale There's our get Carolina we we And veneer at for Chester, at in the some do

and So typically we capacity. obviously, the maybe efficiencies, spending, BMD be of stock. savings to bit not expect but one for the cost then of rolling on to doing And side, is little for going do a about growing that get some big buckets them it's

we that today. I be broadness the and say, we challenges and range many of see given supply tractors would the chain as for stirs, that in I and So that's as in racking we organic then of are have stock, it's because constraints BMD markets little we then And and bit think to we're paving. what - we XXXX, early too tractors, them, in organic existing high going have it to that specify - throughout today the given the just the growth comments, are that example happen. world to purposeful, in that opportunities that stock I in few But are. It's in we a of [indiscernible] we have the trailers, like for just mentioned a going rolling to a spending but suspect embedded to may a challenged chain. little the fair those rolling of and would bring bit

Charles Perron

I appreciate sense. Now the for time. your totally makes color. it Thanks

Nate Jorgensen

bet. You

Operator

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Reuben Garner

morning Good you. Thank everybody.

Nate Jorgensen

decline How of largely if intentionally math out the in came I missed couple you like that of about maybe you the and inventory Reuben. that? it, products first the lose that on on of commodity looks the Hey, it missing the front volume maybe if sell. sort you to BMD much can were volume I that with the with that questions this remarks, driver in prepared but talk I prices not on guess just A on saw answered the being and just or BMD your quick just Was decline? you kind you to quarter. money guys there? some about What me business missing cautious where apologize the volume talk was volume

Jeff Strom

on is this you've side Reuben, spoke commodity Jeff. start up. Hey, the I'll that

second in - middle quarter, of second, see the was second in the end going. the what Towards could end the you market quarter second

are in we inventory environment. and have, for inventory take And move it to to we're really On decline. trying and we trying product repositioning you an hard tell would really, I is supply grow big EWP took we to our the in as shares. out the products, so that spent what foot general gas incredibly line constrained And off quarter entire ourselves. absolutely, but the purchasing, And to with we our get

Our really be ability expand would that it to limited.

I think job great with limited but we did a there. opportunities we what our had, are

Reuben Garner

wouldn't the in stick to commodity my reason, business? when lag front moves margin the the you think from I weeks on So other some through to then remind us to is it your words, in the commodities environment, and in quarter. two that you with head? in Can to seen flows started, what the For lumber Okay, September, price dealt second a declining stabilization for especially in does much for quarter And the the P&L, in decline started have entire of quarter. that started that basically the kind late you your of right?

Jeff Strom

our little wood more certainly, bit lag you is have plywood like The maybe in the an of on a terms yes. Yes, products and files. business heard have in order past may referenced

we know, didn't and BMD, our where in products so see very of obviously market the distribution wood terms you our is. results. in as substantial decline the But educated, understand customers July in they And are

as pretty inventory real value the quickly, time, over, the us. got so tip and market And also we that's we've our And at starts loses inventory rolling inventory pretty on to have yeah, ground.

time us out takes of it get So way the that. some of to

Reuben Garner

customers like that's that environment And have your on on standpoint? Inventory there's commodity already shadow the that industry you or the heard guys the supply from the for. there. maybe today inventory a we've yards have really in What's demand some out spoken yards

Nate Jorgensen

it's Reuben, Nate.

may areas for blocks and think series in uncommon customers and products maybe that's place delivered hotel over of services. the they'll kind projects, be some not orders of And of have - construction, And weeks in like that'll buy and cases, where terms I of they'll in material. or a multi-family, motel months.

the, element but hasn't sometimes So is that is yet the shipped. maybe sold, inventory of maybe that

inventory overall. levels of terms I think in

again, certain products there constrained. that and are I services remain think, very

Jeff As EWP line, remains general challenge. described,

I think across the channel.

cases really feels this is, I they're and I into of commodities, customers finish that it, change off based it that'll likely inventory we think today. think next making measuring there's at into sure as we expect what see year relatively tax on can factor year. terms in that year-end for some seasonality and so bounced, in of footprint And don't to head looking Obviously, we are reasons. but in terms And what their

on out maybe see we year, so as well residential in as we on again, finish year this And approach a terms confidence as overall next demand, little more year. as bit heading into construction deliberate commercial. we off this of close And

year, close confidence on have that think, packed as whether I good momentum we well. it this again, as and cement again, recognizing could out

Reuben Garner

guys. on year. of navigating the good the luck through and Congrats Thanks, Great. quarter rest the

Nate Jorgensen

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you.

we of Mark of have a Bank Montreal. Next, Wilde follow-up from

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Mark Wilde

side, in just you've the pieces to constraints? Building market any a aside of where follow-ups. are commodity on the from see any Materials few Yes, actually there kind an Materials supply first where of the panels, of Building Thanks. Actually started easing lumber

Jeff Strom

have in tell Hi, it you no this sight not, and the on ramp well, we is really top is more issues that, on Jeff. up which Mark, transportation we're and more and with problems. really will continued end causing I as seeing of just is

Mark Wilde

particularly but okay. disruptions good fourth so had quarter the of can quarter understand maybe you several to last magnitude, it's in seen seems and you've to in down Mike it. far hear about Louisiana, as order Great the in Oregon third in then the over COVID well? what like but down talk Yes, Southern issues quarters, And some you've

Mike Brown

quite you're Yes, Mark. sure, correct. Yes,

of of had it start the throughout the terms month would So, since obviously, third guess the worst memory was that needed COVID pandemic, correct that I the month number of quarter, in the contact of cases, to or quarantined, was in August. tracing. we've But I'd direct be say, is my

I'd really, in So say number pretty steady then, the cases. sort it was a month. tough decline But of a really in general, there's been since of

today in we're to want than better months a it were back. you a that call we of position, couple So

certainly manufacturing In our potential model. understand our did way operations, impacted yes, integrated it But how of you we run our it reduce the terms that to products. produce all

but a spasmodic, at maybe days, weeks. of production, very So I different mills would it very, was rule say of X% level we sort different maybe thumb, different in of our rough high as very, lost,

the so we we we that the of the to cover that patience And in maximize what machining to had. juggle the tended locations production that to was, centers with crews of each each that sort do of have we could

So job. our in amount the But And associates it I to that's And a manufacturing huge they reduction did a volume. our how the think more a time. get the at wasn't over basis. quarter of day, of a without huge volume seeing on manufacturing tremendous worked our impact end really significant managed through we to a

Mark Wilde

Okay. And, third any have the did impact, Jeff, would in business? quarter say you in it

Jeff Strom

you, impact always could so there's associates, itself, the business on didn't tell for on felt up to that. would But and we relying a And the I impact what they were relatively it people No, the people like, out, we pick few was other there did do. them.

impact water that. but real So, of just did associates said, that of carrying the an no each as what Mike other, other our than job business for well, kind unbelievable

Mark Wilde

of earlier that's just particularly business, one Okay. in very that impact trend the this transaction distribution last And a Wood kind consolidation right, longer-term are in having I involved All if helpful. sector. wonder that's seeing conscious strategic year. your kind any of the on one, of was curious, this continuing I'm your product of business, we I'm Hey, partners

kind business? can just process is potential having effect that you ripple of door does this about So talk on any

Nate Jorgensen

it's Mark, Nate.

the terms that kind point seen the I think and we've that's obviously to consolidation, of think have throughout of something really your have channel. I in expected,

things both to is Boise a for period one of time. level for of consistency think I think I that of on for a we've businesses I been think us, the Cascade, able deliver and predictability

I there I through that in consolidation, go depend and as like And think our and upon so suppliers represent predictability we and the our customers changes think consistency are channel, this. of that, level really we when

think, forward. view we balance in terms do my and of to and that plug feel consolidation, what but in do, of of how more in are, things happen, as move what can So is work, sheet in support good we putting see I our we'll positioned terms about more we our who customers consistency we're our we likely our I

Mark Wilde

That's Nate. in into right. next very year. fourth luck all the helpful, Okay, and quarter Good looking

Nate Jorgensen

Great, thanks, Mark.

Operator

you. And of follow-up George from of a we Thank Bank Staphos America. have

Your line open. is

George Staphos

Thanks. guys. Hi,

fourth kind update I of quarter little Just you if you any for mentioned couple hadn't bit you're of and in a me. you wood will reckon quite and key change guys. terms And your if could now on the into view, first some Good just bit you talk One, it to then think about America Thanks, to plywood already, of degree, cost cleanups a imports a right South what can what have luck in quarter. can quarter. of you into seeing us be the markets? from

Mike Brown

question think I first. it's So Mike. George, Last

look So the they've time from if at you import declined massively. recent of volumes Brazil,

compared was to couple saw XXX,XXX last I from it about the be was cubes months think July. like I down two-thirds That September, of in Brazil the that like a XX,XXX think maybe before by volume highest and would So was which that was was import cubes. I data volume

up come very it's So very, considerably.

look you XX% like if at year-over-year. the up actually it's However, year-to-date number,

year. in I'll first the volume a came half say the So lot in, of of

George Staphos

between is case the year, there? or to going the just or exists into at not it what's it Okay, which think or I on entirely fine wouldn't, certification trend typically Mike, what and it Do anything is later mean as issue trade seasonal the related well? something and Europe is a that part relative the perfectly clear U.S. you going Brazil different answer of

Mike Brown

yes. and yes Yes,

all mean just know these I what I I say I think ballooned, ocean would unbelievable across freight has what George can find we it's days. So just is, as

them with here on they're very have in a impacted of in U.S. time back activities. very related off turned really going with in importers And delivered a COVID Brazil, cost on our way some prices plywood had So basis the severely. in did point that landed that some that sort included past at reduction but the overlapped in few really, certainly a relative final significant the that months, pricing number they was in terrible freight They basis, landed the the plywood particular, to the for Brazilians of

some curtailed quite significantly. in mills So Brazil

the And volume. quota. the Brazilians, but about it's course yes, to that So then your time point, good right particularly only that where Europe reduced there's total year the that again, not a then to Brazilians very Brazilians the of

of first I is cubic XXX,XXX or meters think tax Europe free. plywood paraphrased, that that enters

between and X% I think that's X%.

So there's that going on well. as

So factors. combination of

to say, all these that significantly mills pressure. in heard little ramp some log wood seen how So say, cost future. and guess a next announcements. most or probably specifically see XX flat. has all mills continue what going to got been to bit some see geographies additional I very be you've it you've I'll sale costs, as ramping then I log flat of those I up year. into very, have saw be would and these There as see cost, the and that We'll much over the think that pretty the start up out. happens I And specific you're in wait flat, increase, we'll And to and are referring could near come But years of plays the be there next five don't online. could

George Staphos

there's Okay, I the been upwards would a But change, nothing South steady your creep say. I significant nothing standpoint, operating for your to in from think a adjust plan.

a on se that's terms plan significant You trend? in operating wouldn't that. per new your calling nonetheless, an But view of adjust nothing

Mike Brown

George. I right would is creep I not think the word. do No, that,

with the it's the of three Northwest I say to sort And Pacific three of creepy, young. think prices. bit of Pacific of off would very, to a always year, don't of think determinant we quarter in lumber significantly I prices, see very And major at come I up pricing coming in are up last bit costs relative is creep Northwest, quarter may we're anytime then this increase Okay, the But it'll obviously soon, very Obviously little quarter-over-quarter, they the log see which a because plateau, log little moment. really down. starting kind significantly. year lumber

or expect pricing the to XXXX. into log I'll is say that relatively I'd would suspect I Northwest I start flat probably would be consistent going Pacific So going

George Staphos

much. very you Thank

Mike Brown

George. Thanks,

Operator

see questions I you. to turn over closing back Hibbs now Kelly further in no Thank the remarks. it I will queue. for

Nate Jorgensen

appreciate it's Boise Nate well. can us be quickly update thank Please for Chris, safe Thank for and interest Cascade. you I'll we close Jorgensen, be this take of support your continued just morning you. we for our and joining and this.

Boise Cascade (BCC) 2 Nov 212021 Q3 Earnings call transcript