BCC - Earnings call transcript Q2 2022

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Jonathan, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Boise Cascade's Second Quarter 2022 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. Instructions]. [Operator

not I the this and no Company's performance. statements begin, forward-looking may anticipated duty you performance, These about future statements future are to remind update we Company call that contain financial and them. Before the of undertakes guarantees business prospects

subject call. expressed uncertainties. these may Actual Although, are differ reflect or of number materially expectations management's a statements those implied results this in business they from today, to risks and

may that to cause actual a begin may filings Cascade. discussion you factors For Hibbs, Vice results now refer call. the differ your to to please with is Senior Boise the Mr. introduce President, Boise the Hibbs, from pleasure It of results recent to CFO you my Kelly of the and anticipated, SEC. Cascade's Treasurer

Kelly Hibbs

Jonathan, you, Boise to and second Thank would I good everyone. welcome business and like earnings you to quarter call update. XXXX Cascade's morning

call of Materials CEO; today's our our Building are Distribution Jorgensen, Products on Strom, of Jeff Wood me and our Joining Head Nate Head Operations. Brown, Mike Operations;

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Nate Jorgensen

call today. Slide Good Thank us on everyone. our you I'm morning, Kelly. earnings joining Thanks, for X. for

Plywood and our associates Cascade new As team. Boise recently the welcome to announced, I'm to pleased the completed of Company we acquisition the Coastal

results. our following transaction the We of will provide this on additional financial details discussion

were XXXX. quarter consolidated second billion down from X% second quarter of Our of sales $X.X

same of to the single quarter, In $XXX.X $XXX.X X% net $XXX.X U.S. and Products businesses quarter. Wood was as plywood housing million per increased unit continue share, operate Both plywood by compared compared income starts sales year starts as during the or segment per reported the well last second well to quarter. year compared drove income year. the $X.XX family EBITDA total impacted prices, second the housing period Wood Multi-family quarter per $X.XX net were second the $XXX.X or in results quarter. to in due year quarter. decreased increase share ago the Our million prior compared costs our of Products ago lower to million million to EWP X% as of higher sales volumes. to starts in XXXX lower

during when of sales quarter. compared EWP reported Building on year for segment improved $X.X sales EBITDA distribution billion However, pricing quarter. of year compared $XXX.X products quarter, BMD realizations by the the billion declining to the in impacted mitigate negative on commodity effects quarter. second million to the wood comparative these Materials prior EBITDA results of helped $XXX million at $X.X segment negatively were prior sales

outlet for price after the However, our detail, improvements come offset your our in acquisition before to back line results will and EWP financial general help and Coastal we both more I'll walk through declines. Plywood take questions. which margin the Kelly provide now products commodity

Kelly Hibbs

second quarter second sales million $XXX.X XXXX. to to Thank quarter, were Wood our million, compared segment on product the you, distribution in Nate. including $XXX sales

EBITDA decreases sales per volumes. as plywood fiber, These and manufacturing unit higher were to EWP as by and due segment year lower $XXX.X million reported plywood primarily prices, sales EBITDA million well price ago margin gross line mentioned, EBITDA by higher of from offset decrease primarily in compared $XX.X EWP to the the Nate X% of As margin and partially due of segment segment Wood prior the million the $XXX.X a other sales in commodity driven quarter million resulting partially $XXX general prices. offset million EBITDA in reported BMD part The a The second to EWP volumes $XXX.X EBITDA was quarter. were declines products. down Products a and in second by segment reported sales quarter. of improvements down in EBITDA was from sales year $X.X wood costs BMD lower lower decrease quarter in billion of in for both XXXX. from quarter decrease labor, segment

volumes by labor the the Slide period. second and X, to LVL second transportation shortages compared volumes X% constraints to quarter our were impacted down and XXXX. Turning sales respectively, veneer quarter availability, for and X% EWP during I-joists were

the inbound compared quarter and transportation with addition, Pricing LVL second quarter second and Webstock were I-joists In for in issues up XXXX. I-joists first in for quarter. early XX% respectively production impacted negatively X%

XXXX forward we actions quarter reflecting Looking pricing further this year. double-digit third taken in price benefit from sequential early increases expect low

XXXX down second XXX as quarter XX% sales downtime staffing from existing well average Turning below average. approximately an facility. second to XX% Oregon replacement compared Slide a the Western our volumes our as Chester XXXX. price second our second wood shortages price plywood plywood $XXX feet realizations are XXXX Carolina down feet South facility, was in quarter quarter the sales of and related sales million in dryer quarter far million to net per sequentially. plywood of second X, products our in plywood plywood to volumes as decreased $XXX Thus third result XX% quarter at at The primarily in Plywood quarter was

XXXX. of sales by XXXX of $XX.X EWP Moving in the same Gross in line by $X.X for to points EBITDA compared was sales ago of from XX.X% general slide remains billion decrease X%. a the far thus X% quarter X, XX% to was quarter reported decline in commodity percentage XX%. third have By volume BMD pace sales sales X.X% decreased driven quarter. constraints second quarter quarter gross down million the price improvements product The sales basis resulting and partially quarter prices margin decreased chain from last for and line year, the XX%, from supply and offset product by increased BMDs second quarter offset BMD EWP BMDs eased. by both year partially general down margin margin strong the increase down for second product X% in a margin commodity second and dollars XXX increased XX.X% from products. were reported in line X.X% quarter sales availability sales

In commodity as addition, falling the BMD very team to continues pricing. their evidenced in gross the results face in inventories by the second manage margin quarter well, of good products the

hesitancy commodity but volatile be pricing to in slides These Moving on finished will continue has I'm future the X Slide quarter and X. of pricing now lumber with product has We shown created economic weeks, decline signs Slide quarter stabilization the $X in marketplace. during recent XXXX to cash. and to panel Pricing risk billion composite in across second of price downside second response we uncertainties. expect XX. show

which and Our million total had availability bank committed under our XX, outstanding billion, available of $XXX cash liquidity $X.X our line. debt June approximately reflects XX XXXX. was at We June at

of expect and of Ohio, capital total Minnesota, of of XX% equipment we last capital to spending delay funding XXXX between reduced Kentucky, effective our We XXXX and in Construction expected facility. veneer continued our with availability is XXXX. plywood million Alabama tax at acquisitions plant $XXX initial in expansions Chapman included BMD South our $XXX to replacement purchases Carolina quarter to and initiatives. approximately the our XX% spending a Chester as spending range organic dryer in million, capital execution expenditures availability equipment Excluding is Consistent related to veneer capital rate to and Engineering and resources, at and project complete range be our timing in and

on sheet XX, excess flexible hand shortly As more cash we to our with strong July and Coastal cash $XXX I After will balance our and million Plywood. in acquisition of liquidity use the remains respectively. in acquisition $XXX million million $XXX detail and discuss of of fund on

a dividend recently X.X two an In per shares. repurchase a million our addition, program. approximately not our shares board to brings quarterly our authorized total repurchase We're and $X.XX authorization of stock expire. million approved us deem additional common the under measure there's This opportunistically share flexibility repurchase obligated the in date housekeeping any and will affords that to set purchase repurchase program share we as more future shares increase The no the is appropriate. shares that to

have capital includes Plywood million July million of funded on acquisition for hand. we're the in the on estimated facilities and Havana, two The manufacturing of a XX, plywood Alabama, approximately a transaction price XX, facilities Slide These to combined at plywood $XXX have with feet. Chapman, closing located Coastal completed cash working $XX we of Florida. to capacity Turning acquisition including of purchase pleased million, XXX

sale For from structured estimated step-up is tax and tax $XX as and present between million. million $XX is to the purposes, an benefit value an acquisition provide net asset expected

in to the facility incremental and veneer utilization addition provide and well avenue Southeastern Havana improve The plywood of our The the XX, to also U.S. our to specialty will U.S. ability our positioned facility products EWP mix in support improve rated construction and these to will to in Turning facilities housing Southeast our an the further geographically production Slide constraints plywood Chapman facilities, Eastern is EWP grow demand support provide stress eliminate will to Southern capacity.

of in extraordinary financial a our acquisition levels. billet provide fully our XX, supply the addition of veneer be respectively will we these for facility approximately results, at million. Oakdale excluding mills at levels. in to into EPS we Alexandria wood three XX% expand expect at Once X% of XXXX. in will and integrated the a from million capacity spending plywoods into capacity XXXX's Florien into Turning to $XX anticipate to end $XX Coal XXXX, of capacity results operations our increased mid-cycle our the and XXXX approximately our we existing XX% the system EBITDA half the average EWP investments plan be benefit these integrated of to XXXX, the LVL to LVL that over expect years. have and anticipate had accretive EWP, from XXXX system, billet the acquisition by that by year investments we and Slide for $XX for EBITDA and million. our Thoresby next of of this facilities equipment Chapman capital end achieve be other Southeast make will support Approximately half approximately while three We improvements By increase to veneer by facilities. of capacity our To

platform and it segment, development acquisition for the product to outlook. applications. this to products our light in our commercial growth penetration I'll In discussed, a provides Nate BMD turn discuss addition additional mass already further and over business into also timber multifamily of back in further EWP benefits applications to

Nate Jorgensen

believe Slide repair construction. correlated as activity and remodeling with commercial Thanks, well new XX. number and light as Demand products distributed construction, for products and the we I'm the on purchased we Kelly. is manufacture residential We Current U.S. million units inventory current XXXX. are existing X.X essentially estimates for level and around limited compared XXXX U.S. this flat home housing support housing starts demographics and starts. are to new

uncertainty increase to increased However, recent and of has affordability to policy mortgage rates to in great half new and the the a economy. of shifts due monetary second slow Therefore, weakening XXXX rates economy. significantly interest we pace construction the deal created in expect residential a to of constraints inflation combat home

Looking or beyond decline near housing low double-digits. economists at to many XXXX, expect XXXX starts

levels addition, elevated repair homeownership the and In backdrop age for favorable provide remodeling start equity and a of housing spending. U.S. of

opportunities in beyond to we addition family investment by Plywood incremental veneer focused EWP potentially Wood integrating drivers the these homeowners Coastal new successfully on to operations further our into BMD products, In be applications single we tempered in our the system an anticipate residences. segment, for in user operations be growth EWP stress provide to to for economic While construction. downturn, the providing supportive continue rated end will for

project organic strong. of Minnesota. dryer team expansion We in quarters. to opportunities for upcoming third line continues Marion, the to build the recently ramp-up Pricing remained continues Ohio, Kentucky product organic completed will The a its additional growth that Lake expect the the has of general pipeline and Chester share work in and markets and categories progressing also Walton, quarter. well EWP solid our BMD in during execution out growth focus of we with is BMD also on steady successful with projects existing of on new the and

lines may erosion to product be activity these However, as subject price economic slows.

to market managing confident uncertainties product We in so all uncertainty our And product opportunity the future. pricing. do our customer across demonstrate lines provide to ability our I'm the Further our in and to have proposition commodity times of effectiveness again with volatile and BMD supplier in value proven partners.

our shareholders. positioned communities incredibly effectively landscape remains flexibility plans. and the balance sure company executing benefit well we sheet operating ahead The ability our continue growth strength our on customers, suppliers, the will and while to financial to organic of we provides our Our to and make strength of use the adjust economic and us

Coastal all for support want today associates Cascade. Boise our at and in for Boise the again welcome and interest to to and please the us would to any I phone customers. Thank Cascade your Lastly, want questions and this of the time. are to joining you Jonathan, my critical to our We support focus associates teamwork gratitude continued continue express you lines? welcome family open whose

Operator

And Instructions] from [Operator of from first Goldman Maklari our the Susan question Sachs. comes line

Your please. question

Susan Maklari

Thank Good you. morning, everyone.

Nate Jorgensen

Susan. morning, Good

Susan Maklari

My lot about the pricing. the about EWP morning. is, somewhat Good first strength a or talked question you of

of puts versus how sort takes housing pushing you the up think macro thinking it environment we we maybe bit are of perhaps pricing, and slowing, sustainability the a As a look with taking out, that the further about there moving and about are and lower, it macro that lower?

Mike Brown

This good question. very Susan. morning, Yes, Mike. is Good

think into recent will environment, EWP you've pricing line place way a the the certainly under the will program, with the we on a of some in almost case, fairly in the comments, macro in think I on our see in and but later to happens quarter, bit next remain in depending at what that may because think our movement put we've price next which heard additional about the in course resulting robust, year, of pressures probably downside. year pressure come in early forthcoming other for days, quarters, least thoughts we are the I my pricing of the

Susan Maklari

Okay, My on question margins that's BMD the there. focusing helpful. is bit a in second

of think you margins even then about you year? those are just stable this environment, early perhaps a how As more half And trajectory into going the the about pricing for thinking back in XXXX?

Kelly Hibbs

Susan. Kelly. Yes, morning, is good This

in the the majority held BMD face gross really heard were of of margins up the the how quarter. during second pricing they So me and well comment second you on challenging quarter commodity some and very environment

margin very I So the to line, to to some quarter we a if in margins Mike's deflationary becomes question forward, up so commodity going BMD. the July, general we see some and in point into little future strong in are lower, see our well as spite out stabilized, performance. we bigger far third tell in start good there's prices if start impacts even you would think a EWP to historical held in relative of in that gross erosion chance The bit have

up think of to levels. now so a normalize a time, of And I lot will driven there's a over EWP. there's have We there'll gross do -- those that think, historical lot right to line continue to what grow bit significant really margins factors in I think numbers. to grow do our general But to we historical we be they play our above execute as back little expect more strategy norms

Nate Jorgensen

go another just Maybe as and Nate. about, we this probably the just the working the our into think more through risk is kind that you it think, levels Susan, price on when making I are -- of is inventory next of year, capital early reward add quick Hi, to is and sure maybe around realizations, from I customers less correctly, maybe levels. their year, set think inventory balance

think where we're I And compared job warehouse see and starting and so maybe customers there's units more of pivot may buying more as to real to or maybe for maybe early And are I have trucks customers been think will audit signs packs. even services, trucks, tendency, our direct. the move to cars buying that a that

of customers year, managing in are course to the in really of and this through position their well capital upon up BMD. 'XX and set we're go do probably as and again, as that mix early shift, that to terms in again working continue So the expect we we execute that

Susan Maklari

about structure the to we Okay, business if quarters? squeeze that's bit talk more over you're a macro which do I can very how playbook helpful backdrop the the color. go protecting going into your thinking you if is I'm cost and just weaker perhaps in a to and one can, upcoming

Nate Jorgensen

it's Yes, question. great Nate. Susan A

point, I able at understand will that. just general. ability term, and we'll this with how our where appropriate. feel have today, and changes we our COVID. sure associated on and from the we investments, continue that adjustments necessary if about a kinds make the very future, look those the sure is our markets company good as In to of experience, to of I don't and our plans support the a of remain stay making what, absolutely so your during if make things perspective, you get housing I the and the difficult, confident of think, that we the plan the optimistic all to is in necessary we're to kind the confident support grow our see accomplished consistent we certainly a in upon and to if, longer think terms very do as what as we difficult moment, given To are in stakeholders medium I about it difficult to, we that making period environments. get with place of potentially we we were have think in in And we adjustments, to uncertain housing position in at again, execute making

our place. grow with discussed largely So, continue company I still again, support have we've we investments centered a is But this today. we we're ultimately, on -- think to plan various think do the I focus in how and that

Kelly Hibbs

in cash the as tends off add, throw one deceleration, would lot I as as distribution comes to capital we know, of down. when business, will working would a particular, maybe comment, we, other to business be, And our you then in Sus get start

here to macro our our ability our we move balance be to good of be tell us. as aware forward but really feel the gas, continue and about the sheet, well and on foot we So indicators what keep prudent

Susan Maklari

you. helpful luck. very Thank good color. And that's Okay,

Kelly Hibbs

Thank you.

Operator

Thank next [indiscernible] you. And question BMO. One moment for question. line our our of from comes from next the

please. Your question,

Unidentified Analyst

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Jeff Strom

it I will now Jeff, Keaton, really a is Well, mixed tell you right this bag. is

We tensioned they up, distribute -- they tough products some allocation they when gone increased, in they're whether they're hands are products, has and were get. people that or are really can some available, other that that their up away. taking get it. There still become we I'll to ease allocation starting you, has have everything, to And are tell been on cases

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Unidentified Analyst

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Jeff Strom

that can order has of do to tight into A No, get. in be it's not. things going lot the what like to with it are still raw materials

is So bit line each little product a different.

Unidentified Analyst

it. Got

the basis distribution, way especially or Okay. margins about the with mean demand right over What that business, from slower. the years? think a the And to recognizing EBITDA side whether on EWP of and growth could is XXXX on sort with basis, seen normalized more we've cost on we standpoint, the From think about, distribution a staying as I just then that, pricing environment. normalized be

Jeff Strom

earlier, in variables it's no you a today, question play tell to plays, in I around good last years. variables answer here That's, is of you, definitive stay as we're pie many grow to business. and line. we're and and we looking our so and But in pieces the the sit several to we are to hard plan as I at so many give Yes, really Keaton there's alluded we in general commodities EWP those and that even But good commodities to, would there. going like

are XX% on We're the that certainly all years. given to And too in around early years, bumping were looking the a be back gross margins. average that levers it's just plus, several to so little various us look around if call up, in last XX.X% we to push make of XX% probably to but couple that you

Unidentified Analyst

Got to last it. or have still And that then are side, started been from that? the Has one issues my ease seeing question facing. you guys labor that you

Nate Jorgensen

a Okay, I'll go this perspective, issues. have from at one at manufacturing a labor

in quarter, geography, it'd think mentioned say fair Kelly had the happens. I only. not script, So to that's in we've to Northwest, suspect side, least in at the I significant be some depending probably be near the would have future, still it's as think quite bit but challenging case labor if challenging. manufacturing last going particularly longer, to that a to And on what the for that, very shortages on the not I the Pacific the And see we'll

Jeff Strom

tell side, labor still an drivers really BMD Jeff, people that is have and for the I its up, looking Kim, specific increase we Since has can really, I'll still some like difficult work. are to that in inflation in find. on the you seen crept jobs are tell started you that tough. truck applications There

Unidentified Analyst

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Jeff Strom

Thank you.

Operator

Thank next question. Yinger moment And comes question D.A. our next you. of line for One the Davidson. Kurt from our

please. question, Your

Kurt Yinger

And good thanks. morning, Great, everyone.

on how business, I kind you plywood I have could historically in well deck. wanted of realization stack to specialty I the bit about as details could proportion hoping with maybe was for as mix. appreciate a coastal think, Coastal's averaged up and start Just relative But of the yours talk to DNA deal run rate slide off the the guess the higher a

Nate Jorgensen

Kurt. good question, Yes,

the DNA. On first one around

a has And your expect $XX realizations, good Havana then is sanded, would of question of amount would for we tell we're this the $XX do, it's of in a and probably somewhere mix million through third imagine, get the the in terms in for in around recorded valuation. example. in million booked footnoted annually And I you still working we'll amount richer quarter point, to a great at our certainly range I yes, of what than can DNA. plywood XX-Q. that detail you As

it pricing, probably. somewhere a kind is historical around their of the quote, in somewhere And maybe across I'd level, back probably if to so normalized XXX,XXX system what get say more of their you range

Kurt Yinger

I kind it. XXXX? EBITDA Got of kind of XXXX million with guess the what And consistent is $XX that of through

Nate Jorgensen

Correct.

it. got You

Kurt Yinger

helpful. of capabilities. guess, a small have? I mean, have, revenue production guys terms That's, amount with I sizing, that consistent And a feet lumber is Okay. so then, the that that's of I or as they perspective, in million from well. of XX board that you believe kind

Kelly Hibbs

get not the I I'm sure question, Kurt. quite

If lumber that's their you're question. production at asking, sort historical So production is of similar the previous our to our Colorado, facility?

Kurt Yinger

thought forget was it of lumber sense was just I the in but was. plywood, some addition believe trying of to is, I No, to and that I which how get I a there facilities meaningful production, the

Kelly Hibbs

Okay, yes.

So it's very, I operation the Chapman milling in call saw very a location modest there's Alabama, very, up there. what

a capacity million so stated around has much. doesn't XX that to of XX And million produce that it actually board feet, often

of rest rest And operations, it's component. the or the small very a deal, to of the so the relative

the And I too on significant lumber the or way impact other. as operations a line much so one wouldn't bottom the focus put to

Kurt Yinger

I Or the that in is runway of by existing to end investments of better additional guess of, as guess I the provided. the incremental absent you're organic kind additional figures to other Okay. of to making, of directly the function then growth as operations XXXX think it capacity the that's and get by And coastal making? LVL All then guess, a X the that million just helpful. of trying is you're end I'm really sense coastal provide? I what investments that the right, just it the a Is coastal of type fair XXXX well capacity other related you is terms

Kelly Hibbs

correctly it. restate it captured you so I'll but Kurt, Yes, just there,

first if phase, will additional cubes is stripping it X.X million the EWP Chapman function will, and if of capacity. you our we strictly from moving by existing you a converting spoke year-end into to, that veneer, XXXX, So that that

in will we capacity were we the in production get couple EWP to The will phased be next million Thoresby also that as capture So our additional that. increase Alex. and cubes increment, of able

Kurt Yinger

EWP single we some to. I advantage talked Thanks, Kelly. guess be to typically, that deal, think But weakening with some one, of perhaps previously ahead, able of it, the about up a and Got activity, to that's you right, okay, then, look volumes. take last we helpful. that you capacity, Coastal opportunities And starts as headwind able you'll my free family just as the of weren't

to the guess, as next of sustain you any over I underlying to in volumes, into look kind perhaps volumes of trends? thoughts the little market spite quarters ability So grow ahead bit and EWP couple the of or around a even XXXX, current

Mike Brown

it that's is is Yes, sure, Yes, our accelerator. Kurt The Mike. plan. foot our last bit the on keep to

if think decline, the some that I occur. we comments to made situation Nate of advantage opportunity As single starts housing, some of there's probably family of, which an about headwinds for multifamily, have will take more

think maximize to by quite now Southeastern to that we're the in opportunity veneer clearly I XXX% self essentially sufficiency presented having the And our going us idea, is United States. so in

a quarter a we're not or even one it's a It's so our down. obviously to put going long-term one And strategy. strategy. And foot year

Nate Jorgensen

to just the Mike's to to as go have builders you over terms the it's EWP been Hey, tension When to add in had about Maybe supply of example. maybe the other lumber including think couple cases, Kurt yards Nate. specifically really marketplace years, of up or and is customers, in dimensional some an comments. lumber demand. it And last products,

EWP. day, it's opportunity of beyond customers to as use reclaim share what the of I our think have would I kind described, materials to production think some to an to rather think other as the the about the prefer So Mike lost additional we end maybe would opportunity that at

And and story growth that'll of next, to half for the our year think we second well. balance So of EWP that as year, part think be an remains of the through get the this opportunity. into I we as of important second half this

Kurt Yinger

it. Got

the Okay, I'll and well color, appreciate Nate and over. Mike turn it

Nate Jorgensen

Thanks, Kurt.

Mike Brown

Thanks, Kurt.

Operator

[Operator our from Reuben question Instructions] Benchmark. And the line comes of you. from Thank next Garner

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Reuben Garner

getting the strong done and results in congrats guys, quarter. and Thanks, deal the on the

see. Let's

back to an asked margin. on earlier get to So I Distribution that the segment wanted was question

So just a the of multi-part can that what over commodity where tight can unusually back the in family to terms or for, be is on we get years few estimate with four margins things might versus what of trying been couple pretty of volume it to on can today last talk years? those years, five starts even about single I back consistently it line and and general first does in if you X% to be maybe that mix to EWP, maybe hand, a have I a might know three, pricing X.X% I saw the you're have ago 'XX, you we -- guess running but recognize but were versus what EBITDA it 'XX was go sense 'XX, question easier

Kelly Hibbs

we in between and statistical tables yes, the do So general BMD for EWP. of kind the there percentage Reuben present commodity line

of we piece get that's our around no, that an so of the which prices still still a bit again, fair bounced you important I levels tell by business. commodity And move absolute will just can percentage.

exposure fits still, where want kind to where all including we in you they're specific staying vendors And grow that they so we our piece we our to lot of have that's stand balancing strategy, to piece we who be are the grow. products, a And EWP services, a line but And as skews have general well don't that and as that. to and the and want looking the line, of time. lot adding and grown general commodity, products into right of and to

to historical and that don't I volumes. periods have grown the components volume And numbers of line the referencing. a EWP in terms compared basis so at I think But were on pretty share that you those I'm confident hand have general

Nate Jorgensen

to is think you when been it Maybe thing, add door comments growing our growth general but Reuben, other and really is, that Hi, terms Nate. business, specifically we've just about Kelly's our the around network the and intentional there. about investment of Kelly of in segment, line as part described

opportunity what part that an an that think So experienced. margin we of beyond maybe that customers. serving growth, we that's But also it think really traditionally we've represents our for stability and important important,

me as for on Door that thing I So well. I this segment can the to touch the other add really think on maybe growth

Reuben Garner

the follow-on and then a of Okay, pricing side. kind

backwards be least, or as volatile, risks within So it going product certain but we mentioned see categories were I pressure, there thinking maybe think like don't could don't And to it been think think specific do, I period I'm I composite understand to categories things decking, I recall slowdown the if previous has under pricing very that you pricing prolonged historically EWP of line in at here? if potential general is lot a you the line general well. just any whole slow, soft

Jeff Strom

Reuben, Jeff. this is

good, that laws I demand still you of you here supply are and erosion But there. move look and be think the as the little and forward, there things a of cost bit to could it's the material at But raw be backwards? pressures overall going make to they into that still some things strong. they're things move are going pretty still Could elevated. could. Certainly

Reuben Garner

great. Okay, guys. Thanks,

been of answered. most think questions have my other I

luck Good going forward. it. appreciate So

Nate Jorgensen

Reuben. Thanks,

Operator

George of line the from comes question next our Staphos And America. Bank of you. from Thank

please. question Your

George Staphos

we've the same use hope Why morning. even tabled. And probably talked about that specifically it to necessarily question fact higher, can EWP some though, lower, as good constraints. been to given we builders if move going dimensional EWP that want help. divergence, it you'll near-term, right, obviously want to for has are are okay. recognizing price any thoughts update The it use hear moving be calls, to past? the there a that what play actually doesn't playing or in I more on wanted in than mentioned you into Kurt of to to I the past, lanes what's back and EWP, things of in effect Again, EWP, know the that had labor Mike, past we've me, guys, a in to seen than that I some dimensional. the you've Hey Thanks the regain think come able been continues your you different you that share lost. downturn, that

Mike Brown

and Nate I so think is our last Thanks all demanded. to an to of earlier, question. as the this George was years, mentioned supply be the able being Yes, the EWP let's that inability Yes, as say, Mike. that for products industry industry couple over

availability a per also just the It's speaks a the and unit. that that component for builder. that EWP and installed individual to the think actually not costs an I transportation creates proposition price There's value those allows that very, indifferent. all And bad, markets, EWP items competitively the through of good, mentioned. to case, been and very as other the compete you a against historically, that's products the group the

as one. So have first that forward, move additional our the as if that as be we we pricing but mounts, lever, pressure certainly also we wouldn't an

or the to that additional group looking be that had philosophy through availability, on to concentrate top couple for we rather notch a products. now have on have for of more sell years. we'll falling and allocation of product able we've And opportunities our We last than

George Staphos

the than it, doesn't it's think mean points And to that them you're be would from have from Would favor them, like from added have been like using expected to though to increased maybe been. still what of that EWP increased restate frequently lumber basis, builders they going what on hearing It or saying, selling have you everything just more value even a forward usage. you're is fair?

Mike Brown

think towards speaking, EWP, it, more summarizing But I over refer The historically of have no fact for EWP Obviously, here. one pricing a new less the amount many, increasing time. have elevated rather and of have of historically we years. that of way been builders AWP. many, long moved many to period long, to than we -- I point, there's I'll again, news back George. mean, your that's

George Staphos

enough. That's fair

Nate Jorgensen

than of I the the add us volumes. the served one's it's just builders not no way wanted more to serve they Yes, in disappointed being that, to to our, just think terms able be

was their because to to because desire need, their dimensional pivot two to. lumber they think they not to more I wanted so And had

still is as think other as I I the their, thinking, this of trusses, their as been so floor has well. that think well part quite And item as

So, a they an of some wanted self to opportunity, customers had again, because reestablishing direction, of of kind frankly, it's feel something our in those different we to. go terms that, with represents and

George Staphos

they turnover, two multi-part. and I'll are last although My Understood.

wood, again, The anything first hurt there to granularity on mentioned per increase production, cost else one cost, labor driving could the more observe? wood? on which you was spread you going how be anything is But manage give perhaps was unit You unit us availability, what bit in and do inventories else downturn one? cycle? lower cost down there continue more the you $XX You you're how observe? We'll and what's Jeff, hurt the per obviously, anything again, A see over potential increase been And to mentioned going that unit a there the Can on which guys. is margins and granularity in it unit us this turn across in BMD, preserve operations. with granularity more wood? production, differently And Thanks, driving give tight. labor out a million job potential cost, legacy the might else there. it that availability, on was to bit what then lower perhaps business, bit I'll to was to on coastal a into on plays relative paths phenomenal to do that gratulations

Jeff Strom

a Okay, George. wood related I'll shot have products questions, at the

So up costs pretty driving what's everything. been much

low because in of not the put speaking is the Northwest, which cost labor, and particularly in you've had, very costs, and moment So We've relatively if not increases that's of aside Pacific only. significant the turnover quite but least labor, the expensive. always

our south have Pacific as then up the have activity. from increases log So months, in everything have nothing last so. operation. Pacific south, in And in use Northwest the is some that's that operations petrochemical months locations statement, very but Not or but of XX Northwest that costs last the we a the with sort very, the low some the significant we coastal costs crept or significant over in related coastal like XX the derived [indiscernible] of do component over very general seen quite

those things their the sorts and So continue calculated. to see have a are trailing I average increases It's at look think those increases major like to of of of resins, cost seen sort the and way our of because rap and our strapping, using inputs.

fact, just resins. recently an So our increase I saw for in some of

So well. it's have CapEx, gone it Kelly was maintenance of certainly more up those then things also on And we as but sorts have costs. related touched to

an to So we imagine those our can made of facilities, backward And happens to whether example, as steel are soon. don't months. step taking things of increases any really see buy last materials it XX and as a also those seeing I as the out maintain over go anytime significant to be something you

we relative numbers elevated So for probably to historical to some continue cost period will see time. of

Kelly's going CapEx, give that more I around color think to a question on you Your bit one.

Kelly Hibbs

one. Yes, I'll take that

XX roughly area year kind in southeast the a to period. alluded million we over of three yes, So

and so supplies. referenced that would we that's all about as veneer when Oakdale So you and veneer, Florien expect

increment of the not drive sure quality bit have of that things, So that's equipment in get Thorsby. it's fair to Oakdale. of a scan bit veneer probably of we make to sorts shift Alex Chapman think plan improvements around and it. around to Chapman about next at a stackers high around those Alec feet, that work The over this is can Blaze, a we'll little money but be that us and significant in spent grade year, veneer we that And stores amount infrastructure helps a

there's joiners, and Alex improvements in There's POV that there's And Thorsby. here then eyelines on get probably plan that a around incrementally finger that over we'll putting that and year. And Chapman line at then done So this we presses. time.

projects guess make And hope whole think I then so And up. of the that's part as of key Jeff there's remember that But third host it I don't But that the what I a was. that's just exactly the shoot. ones. I question,

Jeff Strom

exactly right. You're

work and up. had of at on the out on. And going margins, ever that that a working our and how have a maintain look manage couple big margins that's us of will we we and to going you, tell I'll inventory help the we've what's keep see exactly could best to manage hard inventories. and that's We do our And nonstop that we incredibly we'll in things way. Yes, be manage

continue get mentioned that earlier, wait help business. warehouse a into I to you, EWP, on things business, help continue can't good us. will grow grow will will for we distribution margins. too for focus us line which on and on our to up the general loosen our we very offensive it's Nate us which with As and That's market we front will that, the turning to And strong ore then with that's business millwork when tell and really, will us. really

the buy it. in are And to enter I'll continue those margin So sales it as do. thing thing you, that going which to the will we tell big ways do always we'll pace, do we're we

George Staphos

Last quickie one it, or quarter Jeff. Appreciate third in [indiscernible] log in West down to be no? the costs,

Nate Jorgensen

I I don't. would that to but like believe

what for based I or moment. saw I some pay Oregon on I'm was to given, They Memphis. I've seem numbers operations be around at don't we I think read hearing, what And transcripts think our of dropping in the Western other some yesterday logs I some what producers. I reading and listening from and

purchase some to going bands, we I we wellness have, costs, log out quite to think costs. standing because I would Northwest, our say if the in unfortunately, more. just logs out So least time just my be a on do come people can't and have an think Pacific off, and some day recent elevated just impact as day it of wish inventory Generally quarter purchases is the takes I will usually to of speaking, because at because to and in need which mills. to finish pretty lumber logs, in most to log think buy not you till for another we And or an will declined this prices through rely go have we and for turn there I reminder, past, on

that have So up as to well. we obviously

George Staphos

I'll guys. the welcome. Thanks, my Thanks out for I've in worn it everything over. quarter. turn

Nate Jorgensen

Thanks.

Operator

of Thank comes question from you. And line the from Roxland our next Michael Truist.

Your please. question

Michael Roxland

Thanks guys. questions. my morning, for taking Good

Nate Jorgensen

Michael. morning, Good

Michael Roxland

Good morning.

a rates. get any my you're order And sense seeing in shortening, of you're lot your any cancellation to seeing in but in spot to questions guess big the I -- as been a what want spec a less more purchases. present, to and asked, result, books products. homebuilder seen committed obviously, pretty as order have in I move orders pick And more homes at up homebuilder So

extending as okay, or any this right shortening now indicated order EWP. books, for you're terms next in maybe sense the you've quarter But So maybe the with of that matter.

there? any you have Just color

Nate Jorgensen

Yes, Nate. question. it's Yes, good Mike

I services, perspective. from of even the across unique products product kind think think remains segment really the a so or and geography we steady a really at kind this point I of and that from of now and range haven't anything experienced strong, here everything

go in of this something to and year opposed as and units early year I their we packs how normalcy in through unique. represents second the capital one think maybe look working seeing earlier are as the is finish the and me and services, people in discussion job I the next the We're managing to are working more their they position capital, being they manage head terms they thing mentioned half as that of customers year, thoughtful pivot to course the of more auto as they really the warehouse upcoming do at into year year.

as and of consistent would mentioned moment steady appropriate. watching order today then everything see we a adjustments that ago, have and in just remains and data And something to our as I are quickly carefully. discover this Jeff say is and files, make point, but we at So the the information ability the terms it's significant

Michael Roxland

planning to one actually good. anything are can there's off. earlier to reorient through of you to the address business in significantly housing. is as as is response whether In initially, sounds question, we're depends sit mortgage do we But expecting get can things worse all could rates. to And rates so here? builders taking here cancellation are on case going whether the housing you But obviously, there expecting, from soften. today, to mark And question know, you proactively long-term be downturn do, ahead I follow-up. That a just to quick it's it. And to Got anything distribution, in just a the I'm a if wondering have housing, plan it even get

Kelly Hibbs

Yes, good question.

versus of touch that. you and the important BMD multifamily I our little think maybe a of new be also other our a business, can you bit about good some repair think and the have single business. But new there again little And markets in well. construction is important. an we're is think than and is we housing remodel we if And that balance sometimes is story. just, activities there of I Repair then distribution different as have family, again, part support and terms involved specifically, end overall, And within the part industrial, we plan the our think think in And of also bit tailwind our part perhaps separate construction. of remodel. of we

family point, and we I And these of opportunities, rightly today. focus, and feel in place. sure do specifically pressure, where lot residential really we on we areas on a that's sheet our housing, be going the offense have balance under we if and make team is good to are your Mike maybe the can so we on certainly in how new single the elevate about to is So, have focused play but what

Michael Roxland

Good the second luck you. half. in Thank

Kelly Hibbs

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Thank for you. I'd This hand conclude the of remarks. today's program. like further does the question-and-answer Nate session to to program back Jorgensen any

Nate Jorgensen

you, thank you. quarter. your Boise well for We Thank of support continued and everyone of Jonathan. continued to Cascade. Great, be interest and support you safe Cascade. be Boise next you appreciate interest really talk and we'll and Thank Please

Operator

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Boise Cascade (BCC) 2 Aug 222022 Q2 Earnings call transcript