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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the AMC Entertainment Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2020 Earnings Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, John Merriwether.

You may begin.

John Merriwether

Alex. you, Thank Good afternoon. to earnings everyone fourth and welcome quarter AMC's XXXX to webcast. year-end like I'd afternoon Aron, Financial is Chief this me With Adam and Goodman, Executive our Sean our Chief Officer. Officer; and President

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Adam Aron

joining thank us today. Good you everyone, John. for afternoon, you, Thank and

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Sean Goodman

and Adam, families have everyone, that afternoon. for continued been during and your extraordinary you I us these and you, hope well Thanks, safe do times. this joining thank

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Adam Aron

Sean. you, Thank

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Operator

first [Operator is from Beynon Macquarie. question Instructions] Chad with Our

Chad Beynon

start and a many one to Adam, the just now of We've window including theatrical off Warner. broad wanted on partners, from your heard Universal, with studio Paramount topic.

And about means you're an Just getting could how What historical the to margins? this agreement this business back for model? standpoint? thinking affect from EBITDA wondering this how

Adam Aron

Chad. you, Thank

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AMC with new XXXX after than announced was for an -- recall, Some said thought very -- That of exchange AMC. what brief given we're service serious we And expense. Bros. suggested were let have that was of there that playing its landmark very Universal statement we may the days high as forward from Universal very right beneficial as for that. AMC letter we It streaming out that after good bound example of put Having years, were that of a a Warner the you a that, announcement release that at other noticed a ways was to traditional for you it good agreement now. April not movies be could willing We HBO we a for way to way in Warner advantage and chain. theater shareholders' studio Warner's partners to done about our are clear Bros. Max. that brief will XX discussion, with groundbreaking for Universal. movies and it was a at Fast

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Chad Beynon

that. noted guidance been How the return Appreciate theaters percentage million. in year, of in strong CapEx you reduced would to landlords the then Sean, updated, partnering still if future stable? renovation for along, And you build complete? the that of the now guys the how then, is think the with And your new if and is more that build almost CapEx opportunities is the about particularly if your is if have come are thinking cards $XXX liquidity you about the business

Sean Goodman

the Yes. question. Thanks for

Our deleveraging. liquidity; and said focus right prepared our in now, primary we've remarks, b, as I think a, is:

that maintenance updating considerable guidance fortunate CapEx years, last XXXX primarily a focused and fleet. spent so CapEx, And we CapEx. in few for the pretty over that of of on the see you million, have $XXX theater reflected renovating amount our We're

$XXX leverage good planning opportunities. reduce improves, point, pandemic. it, even would position CapEx. plans view. the original theater we We're invest point Adam we so CapEx look as to our our expect a little talk future situation I that good more But to and in did is our improves, because XXXX, And at from bit liquidity. as the always more about beginning, said we is at maintenance-related. primarily and portfolio But timing growth it than position just will of that liquidity shape. reduced then a of growth we the believe to million the reduce predominantly The quite and let the our leverage I'll reduce the I in as this in is And it's with that

Adam Aron

would that builds constantly landlords powerful. still Having theaters brand But attractive in our finding, new that, coming we're in last theaters. are Denver. or existing we we find call I see you'll way what demanding expect to pick we're -- what sometimes way in very what the AMC So landlords with to opportunities that those build the And continue come position acquisitions. for a where up just week, we new spot a is theater our of us can opened to And respect new we're or have finding and -- literally locations. builds somewhat said to be be

going is more theater take on a to to lot AMC us the landlord a more new as For lot to taking forward, take a risk risk. build opposed going

probably you So capital from from than rather will greater contribution see a us. landlords

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Operator

Wold with B. next from Eric Our Riley question FBR. is

Eric Wold

is the of the and runway A more Can in liquidity box year. you are to update us kind underlying about maybe current outlook. point office filings? kind questions box get to next kind I'm assumptions on next kind year domestic versus of what of you couple cash kind that international prior you laid flow office, your what your around of to out of and thinking really had

Sean Goodman

Sure. Rick, it's Sean.

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$XX And million, just be a say, period. transition period month cash so QX, QX that let's that we to in flow cash is during somewhere around expect positive. breakeven, QX, burn slightly cash probably flow

a you If your somewhere is What translates advance more what that now and conservative answer point box question to would on around... hand to XXXX all expectations, levels, that to based able expectation, quarterly translates you to that of that box that those added specifically, view be -- when see it is there. right a sufficient office from on cover office that below significantly we numbers, than up the cash have

Adam Aron

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Sean Goodman

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Eric Wold

last helpful. Perfect, Maybe that's just question.

right, finance Sorry to -- another question.

attendance thinking levels most to year-end, full that or theater XX here. normal you're you kicking theaters per the just rent in environment, and deferred million Are I one kind $XXX another in of of to back a well? general rent other payback saw $XX of immediately? rent get Adam, plus open, prepandemic there that bring million requirements then go mentioned we you reopens, as need kicking kind in of then effect of average guess are whatnot? assuming Sorry, a of rent period. in defer about month rent, on of the all plus Or be months are to levels once to back And terms hit deferred that kind of that terms kind kind I of does

Sean Goodman

time. rent deferred I paid Yes. have over paid period, so that And additional rent, The offset, be it rent, will over for some of XX-month will longer because being but XXXX that the assumption during million except roughly on careful of that back is the paid you period a to that's careful the assuming way offset by think that, specifically rent $XXX will in of deferred just And back of first deferred rent about concessions. that down, reason additional deferred rent we of rent XXXX, concessions. have be say be and will the half the

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Adam Aron

from just deep us -- bought I of in keep talk about add very And another Pfizer. in if But through Bourla in so tall theater for concessions was a who And the over retail of Eric, heroes investors we agreements. stood about And can that could the AMC comment. appreciated. are ATM stay my our I to of land shares hundreds really So January. told appreciation many from There And the renegotiated they and AMC constituency helping has all the We you October hundreds to around. effort our past year. Albert wanted survive business, lease hundreds they talks theater landlords and much us continue. our wanted those landlord community. us made and are that

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Operator

Partners. from Our next MKM is question with Handler Eric

Eric Handler

March? give for us expense update some 'XX, quarter your you've what likely good basis a look picked your just most given now cash on on all a that is update or cash? of either will total give at per the nits us interest an with? Can got like deal debt where to you on you Can And your beginning of

Sean Goodman

Sure.

and on So see look the first XX-K, will you question, which our published if this week. our your capitalization total to debt, answer table at you'll be later

then December, of number. of is our pro that March, what of the the you forma tell debt total debt look at you as it's end If I'll the essentially at the and same and end

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Eric Handler

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Sean Goodman

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Operator

Our is from question Jason Bazinet next Citi. with

Jason Bazinet

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Adam Aron

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Operator

with question is next from Alan Our Gould Loop Capital.

Alan Gould

I've got a few.

And to can given you EBITDA windows? fewer the you Or how think have be do that had levels adjusted screens? take? First, a in there you long will that XXXX, will Adam, it get you shorter that theatrical back

Adam Aron

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Alan Gould

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Adam Aron

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Alan Gould

Do industry-wide? now see opportunities M&A for attractive you And you happening you currency? what see, a got frankly, do more see Do Okay. screens you've closing? that

Adam Aron

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Alan Gould

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Adam Aron

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Operator

final we time gentlemen, for and one Ladies have question.

Research. comes Our Jim from Barrington final with question Goss

Jim Goss

that actions between up standardized one, develop studios types will on? the any of goes by as small and will basis idea. Or wrapping Do on One -- do think a or of of range a you emerged, be windows one there will the just that think, variety given the you the one windows have it on time standardization be exhibitors?

Adam Aron

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see the -- especially to what needs. agreement to have universal learned different is what think going every studio and seems since desires we've we're I

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Jim Goss

past the over And Okay. year...

Adam Aron

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Jim Goss

persist Okay. about And past all of the my -- over the COVID. year, that talked exhibitors things last we've thing, post might the

levels, you even some getting chance staffing from go popcorn food back point or and might coming to maybe a showings, a blocking, protocols what again maybe to terms sort as do and softdrinks X.X persist to transition, menu and be at cleaning private you beverage least broader have to seat actually items? conclusion think where we're will this Now of that in of

Adam Aron

Thanks, Jim.

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Operator

the and now I have closing of We session, for question-and-answer reached call turn over remarks. end will the the management back to

Adam Aron

theaters you, ladies our $XXX at are of quarterly Thanks and operator. everybody rid movies. last cash, we you Since Thank joining reopening, $X.XXX us of today. coming, debt, movie big are titles call, see gentlemen, Thanks our raised for call. to the got of million the on AMC billion

Operator

may and a evening. have lines disconnect and for Thank you participation, you your time. concludes today's This at your great conference, this

AMC Entertainment (AMC) 11 Mar 212020 Q4 Earnings call transcript