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Operator

Good morning. My name is Sheryl, and I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time, I’d like to welcome everyone to the EcoStar First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. now Mr. turn would to call I host, your Instructions] like the to over [Operator Dutt. Deepak you Sir, your begin may conference.

Deepak Dutt

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Joe Torres

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Michael Dugan

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David Rayner

accounted XXXX in XXX standards instruments, of and subsidiaries year. investments the substantially well guidance XXX the adopted loss recognition in accounting The million in a earnings. decrease our equity fair In associated of sales with XXX be all method, with securities, changes ASC for for instruments, $X.X in for as establish model QX impact accounting million new Thank the you, revenue a this with consolidated reference of new revise equity the XXX revenue recognition including net ASC of we financial the standard going recognition standard will quarter, dealing for I for including Mike. The incentives. forward XXX financial with certain new contracts except customers, new investments, including income ASC in and recognized this and the as standard ASC today adoption this using revenue related quarter. those of decrease ASC using the in income equity through increase value and reported increase XXX costs and million $X.X for is by of guidance. net numbers an The investments investments in $XX.X

in disclosures results comparable our Additional be found can previous XX-Q, under guidance. including

million. by for driven affiliates. period balance. along on taxes a by of continuing international which Hughes’ America a in over service, by Capital result XX%. rental higher with on sales from the an lower launch Without the to of cost in interest satellites in by of and a quarter, our continuing flow, satellites investments consumer in primarily to to driven cash were fourth to $XXX EBITDA which Free in earnings XX% increased and Hughes' the consumer reimbursement XXX, $XXX,XXX losses, was of QX as satellite. loss from due ESS’s quarter due $XXX again losses to $XX XX% million operations our QX, gains for or million million with partially for a primarily costs to would EBITDA QX are American the GenX been of other a our an QX satellites are last in related of reductions HughesNet December. $XX recognized XX% the year. Net $XX lower we year-over-year our was million growth from Echo-XX consolidated DISH by partially XXXX and in earnings and compared in up Hughes' and equipment minus last EBITDA Included the on losses driven reduced growth, primary as sales and AMC-XX at the CapEx XX% $XXX last of million the and lease in consumer on September was million CapEx, increase higher and a negative the build summary and increased margin was offset was primarily to slightly, increased revenue by revenue EBITDA in compared enterprise a net of as higher last growth well results. from capacity offset losses Hughes' revenue depreciation in last EBITDA, as quarter have $XX growth income of quarter. on placed and million due last consumer growth have primarily related the in infrastructure operations Corporate negative Eco-X. by $XXX net EBITDA Hughes, revenue the and the North XX the year, primarily marketing XXXX a business The specific earnings unconsolidated the net $XXX million lower in of and of primarily by on business. marketing Now was completion partially these was revenue in in investments Part and lease on over CapEx our year, million, reduction ending growth year. QX as for over North from offset EBITDA offset lower certain affiliates. CapEx to X% of we of primarily once year, investments. same year. in was this driven Echo down capitalized $XX.X million decline business in consumer net CPE, Echo revenue service. drivers as business year, associated these lower just the termination a service to in Consolidated $XXX from cost year, related were the define compared on unconsolidated result been were cash Brazil last EBITDA with the the during The $XX.X a partially as expenditures was quarter growth placed this well primarily spending discussed, million the

Our than balance be $XXX of of very $X.X with cash million capital strong of excess to leases. securities net billion exclusive and sheet continues debt, less and marketable

Let over me it Anders. hand now to

Anders Johnson

not different March launched the West been over Thanks, Dave. began satellite. XXXX orbital located us Dish In the been the first has been at January, position for revenue many or XX, service life was XXXX. we recently at located television satellite thus as retired Network broadcasting EchoStar its in XXXX. orbital for locations most December The have course of in I, Echo a and XX XXXX, of It in far our backup Dish a and generator has Mexico. I

one conjunction XXX West Our coverage which fixed satellite reach the the third satellite, with services aeronautical customers degree possibly entered filling service November. service commercial our progress in in-flight In second team of and on comprehensive expanded of Gulf on orbital the EchoStar with those the at XXX, to and the States make and the continue of at and extended XXX, expanded entertainment United to run quarter continues the into end Caribbean. should EchoStar IX into the provides quarter. with Mexico XXX, through services EchoStar of capacity Echo QX, slot their

capacity are Rico, of to fall's providing one communication last Puerto to critical devastating our We customers following hurricane. services in also support

IoT to out Union. using team, MSS Pradman. to turn now over is or currently additional EML and Mobile, and European network providing EchoStar applications for I'll throughout The Mobile our connectivity continues machine-to-machine it services. coverage Finally, IP-based voice, the data, roll products EchoStar

Pradman Kaul

Anders. you, Thank

then with First expected plans. onboard XXXX, satellites late I’d that K-band other Ku-band through we and a building began and and our and in you of journey on on hosted XXXX. Jupiter positive was the July pioneered to satellite. with we entered in routers, payload arrangement time. see through Internet transponders Columbia and a filled throughput in from of big XXXX satellite the ago, changed EUTELSAT to launch providers. the years worldwide XX briefly in both that consumers, we to was we up so in West in SpaceWay-X also commence beams followed this X to its exciting for high strategy our The share a service offering Jupiter the SpaceWay-X, ownership profitability K in to service satellite like December X’s Over impact do broadband XXXX XX service with There groundbreaking first first into K-band Brazil from We industry, consumer satellite-based business. own the at lead FSS leased

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of we in have world SME undisputed the now subscribers, and satellite broadband continue the market consumers terms In be leader and wholesale to retail, X,XXX,XXX today.

to and XXX have speed consumer megabits new is Looking subscriber. It Wi-Fi significant will Jupiter-X the built as community high and well of satellite K as ahead, in-flight us our over support to will currently offer Wi-Fi. throughput download aero additional enterprises business capacity our to enable being

launch service Jupiter opportunities to continue to to our to expect as presence, in success X in We the expand explore broadband Americas. on XXXX service complement and

continued it quarter quarter, another North strong first HNS, That's momentum across was the business. the to created we American XXXX, our sales channels. Now in consumer particularly in all for

in new a North clear overall beam GenX. half American across consumer of satisfaction and have completed GenX now America. go of implementation and of that over We quarterly in high down, on to years in saw North have X all churn with the churn GenX indicator churn consumer HughesNet plans five over levels being XXXX now the We plans customer the HughesNet QX lowest the Jupiter was subscribers continue

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in the year. half second We this will commence and of production shipments

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in enterprise backlog at fact EBITDA EBITDA the I’m this At that margins of continued have inform XX% was achieving XX, quarters Our backlog year. you been QX than billion compared as our customers to was the March last to XX% I XX slightly March last from margin X.X year. last that consistently. expansion in high higher pleased call, have that highlighted we margin QX,

as So of very performance a successful well numbers Hughes’ I’m Hughes. both terms exciting we pleased subscribers of continue profitability. looking I'm to in with to and QX lead the very market and as in for XXXX forward

Let me over back hand Mike. it to now

Michael Dugan

for pleased we Pradman. Thank very you, our with quarter. Overall, the are results

EBITDA and operating margins. We revenue strong are growth showing improved

our to as industry We to of in and technology. sector, continue continue satellite to have strongest to a the and gives services. unique leader be set in forward capabilities we balance and network communication a and leader industry This sheet move tools be the continue to next-generation the us we

let question-and-answer back start Now turn the me to over it to operator up segment.

Operator

Ric [Operator Instructions] Your with first question is from the Raymond line Prentiss of James.

Ric Prentiss

ramping we operationally I A said Jupiter-X And XXXX. the be are couple with the I Hughes, think How you filling of Jupiter-X, service the obviously to the mentioned satellite? expecting you GenX. the questions about in around think you and now think nicely should in also pacing

about think the on we and should how So pacing fill Jupiter-X?

Michael Dugan

the great. popularity service are fortunate been We very that in of has the

beams different even the so filling than And anticipated. had a at are faster we up rate

so significantly the pipe than where is forward effect beams about thing are return there to better that of are to lot obviously is it's the of customers anticipated. that investment beginning getting on rate going that an But going the have the because are areas nice internal are up. So filled have that we filled fast,

So beams we’ll filling level some slowdown these starts up. the see next year in probably of as

Ric Prentiss

came were think April down on people the, but should so ViaSat-X and at seen how then liking front? about and competitive was you’ve very far fairly And maybe also that low level, what service a as the we dynamic what as was adds mentioned into think in I you it, gross think about May we churn as are

Michael Dugan

high-speed the really against ViaSat deal service, competing they satellite not compete particular broadband site. don’t a into as to the all directly because subscribers to deciding get against is we’re dictated directly ViaSat. a Weather We put equipment

an don't from I much So ViaSat. this of think we've stage at seen impact

Ric Prentiss

And Hughes Obviously then nice is: my final on side the question growth. a revenue

seems, guess, growth think now for You think, enterprise should too. future? the about $XX we discounted got, and the as out closed the be think revenue How momentum what but may the called deemed about as got You've that plan ARPU I Should far enterprising is plan $XX I couple times. we retail, of good $XX doing? plan, in a

Pradman Kaul

talking about Or referring you’re business? talking to? Is you about service what broadband on are you’re the managed Ric, services enterprise? that

Ric Prentiss

kind on those may what you and up two what be We retail then can seeing. but in go liking And general both, you're taking side areas with but ARPU the seeing? of as kind we're the seems what enterprise may are of be and like as the seeing give trend service service, it as far or just certainly ARPU the

Michael Dugan

me Pradman years. business, Certainly the your with that, we've then and the for answer medium much on first Let small half. flat the were that take part had we -- second increased pretty of speeds, can enterprise

we And uptick With small the of We and and the comment? of to do have them the rest contributed a of the customer. consumer introduction medium certainly an very GenX growth. retail to seen service, in that’s Pradman, enterprise, terms similarly enterprise want to view number customers you of

Pradman Kaul

Yes, it a ARPU really the don’t that’s I for we an look are particular we managed the at -- network service think enterprise. because doing

was in in American for network managed revenues has that is enterprise So And growth ARPU been growth even declining, with tracking. last the the positive. we I quarter encouraged think the we North revenue very been the business there an services. are flat But general, number in in to many the years none have for slightly it though seeing

Ric Prentiss

up. But mean side, seems on versus and meaning out the be disclosure, side you enterprise at wasn’t split going going up guys I think, ARPU don’t enterprise apologize. I I into retail be retail. would don’t And revenue it your enterprise the like ARPU on should I the

Michael Dugan

With more It’s goes up. color ticking Part I little don’t. DISH say the mean, much base. taking that pieces component that. people a last over is of And, stopping other ARPU we mix. year pretty has quarter. you bit year selling Ric, the total the wholesale ago the packaged, on shrunk is percentage but about consumer up that every as of a wholesale of course No, retail, just wholesale, a higher consistently as the

of the change is else. So and ARPU our that because up ticking on nothing just business, consumer mix

Ric Prentiss

And tweaking all last those details. really question

to be guys New Would the mentioned Are auction the You CAF households? addition funding. an you possibly the Broadband CAF that with as mentioned for York XX,XXX X and well? registered what

Pradman Kaul

of there, but actively everything process. seeing very are early that finalized we in in it is are say We involved way. not I’d and all active the that

Ric Prentiss

It guys looks you it quite attractive. might like get, be the could rich

Michael Dugan

It’s certainly trying mixed. U.S. carefully. to It’s mixed and manage are very across the we it

-- a we for do company don’t do and we So we misstep right take long-term. thing the the

Operator

next of Andrew is Wells the Fargo. Your line from question with Spinola

Andrew Spinola

start you wanted question wondering cash. for billion I’m now acquisitions with to on contemplating the but Just have some out high-level place. have guys repurchase in program share quite the time, $X.X been just you

hard that probably own low -- share. where be high it something your just quality is stock is would trading, risk -- get I your is the given and buying So would investment to be

if guys maybe at have I’m doing changed any just you you’ve given So here. wondering or and all that repurchases views thought share if your some to recently

David Rayner

built over business long uses advantage to to intent expand the of continue built our historically as Well, take and the term. and EchoStar everything

market I but a not So can with cash look little you now buyback. makes out, have better that's stock at to right that our invest than are the the working on change we cannot now closely, in disagree in in us hard that that plans. where right very bit a absolutely way we

Andrew Spinola

Understood.

except should've nice your it gross on it to improvement bps the the EBITDA year-over-year made margin but margin QX, comment equipment in almost in You for a looks been XXX business. negative better, your like me about

onetime hardware of subsidized charges led on So were anything Or to in business? What is equipment? that the terms the impairments enterprise margin there in negative gross this? or drove this

David Rayner

just was XXX basis, expanded on let’s Hughes by apples-to-apples First margin looking points. we’re a year-over-year of basis. means, on at it all, XXX make Quarter-over-quarter that basis an basis sure I points. things

negative sold, So as the expansion. to such which be significant in from fixed as we We associated to weren't These saw to forward. QX negative on management, with react that include mitigate quarter not certain was deployment unusual. not mostly equipment cost assurance, to enough very, pleased cost is support. you the equipment indirect note. is In in to quickly going quarter. line of expect equipment indirect revenue reduction nature. very equipment. product sales goods margin we’re something costs the QX a margin quality with pretty But tends QX, high The are we we The costs able continue margin certainly

onetime event for a it's the think quarter. I

Andrew Spinola

to Staying just this that? cost I sequentially on that can that spending through driving wonder QX. well. topic, Or what's as Latin you service was million parse the help about up $X.X in if from America? Is

David Rayner

I that's increase certainly business. not the the lot a There to continuing It’s of consumers are Columbia, to with you've around board, variable consumer But those mean, got the that entirely across the grows. obviously. associated costs. driving is cost perform launch associated with costs support cost

to see the going And we’re continue to business consumer ramps. that ramp so as

Michael Dugan

I add, countries year. in are And also launching can South in this five America if we

with as So more our the and in in in Columbia, to in started cost but launching get going Chile, these countries. we not Peru add is Ecuador, cost only Brazil service associated

Andrew Spinola

the adds your exceeded Brazil that mentioned you expect in expectations net for quarter. And

think in guys Have exceeded a Paris XX,XXX at XXX,XXX back I September you you announced at show. the that you yet? were

Michael Dugan

separately Regardless not American. from point a we're of a at we to what are North at subscribers South show, said disclose yet American ready we

Operator

next [Operator Quilty line Instructions] Analytics. with of Your is the from Quilty question Chris

Chris Quilty

to wanted are HNS anything margins. unusual? margins there those basis? on in go-forward a that sustainable just David, was the there on Or follow Was up

David Rayner

business new launch to But are to going for those consumer countries. we continues things as sustainable. the shifts consumer once revenue Certainly to as continue continues North time in effect. of bring dampening after But that’s be shift going to our think launch -- going we the to a markets grow, any it mix certainly sustainable America, of that’s period has a we highest Pradman towards negative are reach as and mean, the up. have towards level products, we mentioned, markets, as consumer, other to in they a push the I margins margins of of

Chris Quilty

the or consumer you you any GenX mix and those your ARPUs balance of over in impact expect presumably either to over halfway the or fact does shift of And time plan, GenX? expenditures move way the through rollout that are the that churn everyone to as

David Rayner

Yes. customers superior we upgrade. a to migrate. would customers think and are continue new expect on continue Obviously to I customers mean, product it’s going all to GenX, certainly to we that the GenX and platform,

So know, over as to significantly time, and migration -- under yes, GenX natural a impact that’s line. already increase as And with we spoken and reduced there has bottom churn, will significant the on be the platform. you come going has churn to, a Pradman see

Chris Quilty

business. is any around kind meaningful number contribute? of give us of metrics that A customers there Mobile the terms you how question in can Hughes revenues Anders, on of that or of can or expectations

Michael Dugan

Hughes said Mobile, or you referring a Hughes Mobiles business? you EML to EML? the Chris, clarification, are app for just

Chris Quilty

Yes.

Michael Dugan

Okay.

take. to want you Anders So

Anders Johnson

not Chris, Yes. to of are be a level we going sharing that. where statistic anything customer we're at like or commercial activity

specificity. other of will into in in we We be of level that on the I working get future about that some don't we'll will on going think the partners Europe products with are that satellite, but speak probably the some and up services

Chris Quilty

that in haven't actually Hughes Mobile is business years that’s by Hughes since You think driving was growth? there EchoStar substantial I acquired happening ago, breakout given anything but

Anders Johnson

some piece nice globe. and that any we on. no, got capabilities I at notable a developing of a But area as by look it’s the piece of the not around we mean, major means in continues business, It business. but strong it’s the it's a what's business

Pradman Kaul

in an but mode of been been built line to we And very the three company that’s somewhere years and the number other, capabilities said there don’t these engineering we’ve a we And invest As systems build and SaaS time, our product systems. the typically in as or world in two at business. continues we large given and delivering for forward. any XX it’s large offer being going technology in in the one world are or are have opportunistic past, We the it mobile systems. the last the the

Chris Quilty

were constellations those networks projects like relationship? happening for or or So, the ATC things Leo beyond Pradman, the historically some technology of to Is that others. who transferable with existing mobile OneWeb Inmarsat

Pradman Kaul

mobile obviously our some technologies obviously technologies of that the would mobile, people part the the Kenstar developing of be are and in in the are neighboring so other support Leo like all Almost we year, supported technologies by fixed of kinds Mexico. ThriA Leos and MEXSAT both and and systems. for past

we these added technology itself by comes standalone a up. systems of systems are have globally to that the So number is but next-generation over the system that

Chris Quilty

the And that final be Brazil about given we of concerned against in in question, Should legacy business the about David. the the that? the Or strength enterprise growth consumer U.S. dollar? hedged are you

David Rayner

-- businesses, are all the in there about international is U.S. most equipment the down of of sell and service locations, contracts local currency this and denominated typically are to expenses of pretty and concerned international revenues in true business be are foreign dollars. always we should when currency We much our those

influx, when exposure. no reflect just us a FX U.S. into the through see got to the is does you on place currency impact recognition are an you've we've financial clearly there assets it going because So impact got But in dollars. two statements back

Michael Dugan

wouldn’t that destroy to I earnings, our Chris. it's concerned be going But

Operator

Thorne of is Your Giles next from line Jefferies. the with question

Giles Thorne

questions, had please. I three

question. question First a very basic

And said [Indiscernible] ambitions to in thing mobile the tracking Belgium you've was finally license of lot You idea in -- that an the a sense high CTC the changes is Inmarsat budget. momentum DOT dropping to Because anything full-year thought of in floated have the European your of of so both services, anything might sort bit basically and a on any second the or your do TRAI’s how for understand investment backbone proposal with of you hardly and of that the accepting the of withdraw it the you interview people in any there EML? is quarter the capacity closer But, And up? that? see me get a as Pradman, you gross plans And The connectivity own of container to throughput give and you subscriber accelerates adds of you in plane historically seems with our infrastructure then on have. large it’s against quarter drivers India. question.

Pradman Kaul

No, is that policies think referring which – on. DOT they -- advisory or body to may the they the working new working you are rulings But in telecom and TRAI are on not I gives been may India, accept. have Yes, the

So our I are accepted think modified formally TRAI about BOL they has made [multiple the either – speakers] recommendations

Giles Thorne

as [indiscernible] accepted CTAT proposal service. has TRAI’s in-flight way for an The connectivity

So is … a getting everyone

Pradman Kaul

connectivity, right. in-flight The you’re

-- looking in-flight the I’m at policy. I was telecom For overall sorry.

On you people is offer a able the that in-flight services. license to be are to to right. be in-flight connectivity, GMPCS going getting There are

We are for are the the have which overall GMPCS providing license capability. fortunate -- includes services we in that

as to the as apply in I license. know you as licensed are GMPCS we So services far a offer in mobile far can this have plane. I in-flight or you to services if operator, for new a – plane as are But

Giles Thorne

the whole I’m up get in nothing competition. That’s back your change over continent? the of There putting satellite trying that uses to views these on is development a at. cash really Coming what

Pradman Kaul

doing in are We very interested that. still

Michael Dugan

EML Anders, the you want question? to chime with

Anders Johnson

Yes.

exactly we're upon in Eutelsat pursued license, hold use situation. expecting until the of which completely that no We is done on our receive license but license familiar have not right withdrawal supposed license I’m But Belgium’s be ViaSat one We ready it we're we’ll sense what we to I that currently course. to is know until our that do a jurisdictions license believe My going the violations know not a MSS it. CGC pursued of really it the due because the an there Inmarsat roll understanding in that is relating the to out, that impacting Belgium. this withdrawal to in CGC is prior was incurring against that see restored have for and note in existing procedural a action schedule don't having and to was Inmarsat’s the which we fully cost license in of specifics is with is certainly So I the of license Inmarsat terms. of the

Giles Thorne

license you in anywhere jurisdiction? CGC any Do have

Anders Johnson

have a a is license incremental is associated that Yes, meaning with have jurisdictions actually broad without the CGC them, cost associated with network. where licenses incremental on CGC taking it products the of a cost latitude particular us There state there we any with scope, out rolling because fairly to we member do. we start number taken the until gave no

Giles Thorne

And yet on where and you jurisdictions is in, other it? clock license CGC there haven’t any getting there pursued is ticking

Anders Johnson

is No, there not.

Giles Thorne

remember? license XXXX think, the Other fact expires, that I is than the that? when if I

Anders Johnson

there quite and renewal. ways And for an out is a expectation

Giles Thorne

expectations? And then growth compared first full-year of to final was how back and on to of it question the just that tracking drops type question drivers the quarter-on-quarter

Michael Dugan

the about business are You on subscriber the growth asking quarter-over-quarter?

Giles Thorne

the all gross Well, quarter the -- just the trended and and international etcetera, adds business coming got comment and across quarter it in growth given that every how launch, your was quarter etcetera. felt you compared the you to to this in GenX down me that on I in unintuitive to mean tailwinds prior quarter, you've that's down it see

adds why quarter-on-quarter. So stopped to to I wanted know gross

Michael Dugan

drop So, quarter-over-quarter? Pradman, adds? in gross adds Gross

Pradman Kaul

I QX from to seasonality. think that primarily QX, is

Giles Thorne

usually strong would what and you look historic you that’s it the at Well, quite thought quarter. first I But in are the be. then

So still are scratching head? they my

Pradman Kaul

me, less a -- than I best usually front usually QX usually is details product. have QX. don't But in QX the of but is

Michael Dugan

the certainly like year, mean last we QX I In no effectively had service. itself we’re GenX before we capacity weak. launched

Giles Thorne

and happy all is the strong? churn you very adds But obviously all, gross are with of in momentum

Michael Dugan

I up as about look obviously and which he we is very filling pleased at. commented the on his our we mean, ahead are we expectations, improves, something comments, return in on asset, always that the as are obviously the Yes. Pradman that satellite mentioned

start faster, telling. So in good regarding. up slow that's we're to it's will that use news bad thing as a if at point that is it's this is going reach growth filling some but point that in the at It bad future such news the because beams is going there

Operator

follow-up James. the line question from Prentiss of have You Ric with Raymond a

Ric Prentiss

more second there. the are as question How million. maybe maturities then $XX with I quarter far they billion. much EBITDA. done $XX I of last you Couple And guess about the is, little it debt you you talk out right and it where in from sizing XX up follow-ups. down this you do like What looks a -- maturity? might I as that the corporate to a some extra have think business, year on and other appreciate a what think coming bit $X you've what job this Can have of million good do about the quick disclosure middle over was the your taking year of you are thoughts costs was

David Rayner

operations. first thing was disclosure, Yes, we continuing in the of what disclose terms

of a buried down gets so And lot overhead operations. in there's that discontinued corporate

actual quite cash from the So bit lower year-over-year than reduction that. was a an spend actually

that all to eliminated. got at when that overhead looking take you costs into So were really the consideration corporate

So to what of of a there flat. were overhead is seeing last transaction be a don't apples-to-apples taken true as I out is cost think corporate you relatively left comparison are the that result year. and much

in In yes, about cash the happens what need a look at we’re obviously XX lot we’ll we next utilization terms of or from over whether But to to that the at maturity to there’s the refinance XXXX, say I June the of not debt of aware maturity. that point months just a this mean, it. course we of take some and different. whether need do time, of in

Ric Prentiss

corporate a the just So figure good in it and ops. watch rate up on costs that’s run continuing the

David Rayner

Yes.

Operator

Goldblum Capital. with question Hurley of Chuck next line is from Your the

Chuck Goldblum

Just a few questions.

an at tell to you past know in update having Maybe increased. of quarters on it least have you the market. are us quarters I on discussed last few back First quarter the a or conversations can that given where now? you few all, for maybe we M&A

Michael Dugan

just the activity Obviously matter fluxing I being going. determining of industry LEO a The conversations got the There networks is industry of lot mean now. we've entire continuing. right built. going high. where are is the is It’s a and across change

some being MEO in We talked networks some expanded. have cases in got cases being about,

make the sure And where right for the on industry that so we priority making the ourselves and right vis-à-vis is an ongoing for decisions strategic entire fit looking we position us. want to

much there’s can Beyond I else that, say. not really

Chuck Goldblum

there market giving for this some as ever? is, is us in Well, of only deal your doing as sort flux high on the price? is follow-up a Or is appetite the that

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Michael Dugan

it more just fluctuations, dialogue reluctant other And -- have don't our a seen we in reasonable also to mean, have decline, the players the some frankly seen Obviously same makes and especially the valuations. have some about relative decline market market. would makes the in in to them have those we players seen, own I but I decline think

Chuck Goldblum

margin when how look then going growth the as the think next as about the of it characterize forward how to us maybe that trends diminish you in but adding again, rate Any time, folks a, balancing, in front And the are going would years. broadband, up that consumer relates sack guys -- tell well. diminishing trends you the over that few you

David Rayner

costs because trend’s going up. are the fixed. up the It keeps most of I think

once all to the The way better the So sub. revenue sack the basis. incremental you flows that you line. is major the sum get acquire reasonable [indiscernible] get to cost But bottom only almost

Chuck Goldblum

those back view well. setup in as the have, be in All would in country real and what all, the costs --

David Rayner

ironic where you said, as satellite cable our cost the seller, or broadband, in that got subscriber that forward. high It’s have you are a upfront of incrementally have fact pretty then to going acquire significant margins acquisition businesses be significant that customer. all Pradman got costs. Be And case

even course seeing that growth year increase And been high as so we’ve significant that you've acquisition have slows, margins. acquisition last with margin mode, you up cost. nice obviously So our growth incurring goes because we've been right now, in off and in the don't But cost.

we're So going pretty that -- the margin business. optimistic consumer expansions about on standpoint, forward from

Chuck Goldblum

And on as the your for sort asset seeing value far stock any commentary it time as question to that? is, then last ownership that DISH plans are relates the from the in of as Mexico, my in what over

Michael Dugan

market. we a associated that plan with But that the got long-term rather to think It’s got with to there. there. continues our continue for at partners and work going strategy operate in partner time business downs I as own dialogues definitive our than will to no point It's it continue down this its plans with we've have and forward, the ups operate.

Chuck Goldblum

time chance value of of in no it until in see sees to something? any point the this the the to be sort So partner stock at

Michael Dugan

in I think case. we're Yes, I to not a think the term. dissolution force going that's least the near part don't of at

So strategic we have dialogues with partner. and will to our discussions continue

Operator

any this at are time. There have questions you remarks? further Do no closing

Michael Dugan

participation, we you for and see next We quarter. everybody thank will

Operator

gentlemen, and Ladies teleconference. this concludes today's

now disconnect. may You

EchoStar (SATS) 10 May 182018 Q1 Earnings call transcript