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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the EchoStar Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Deepak Dutt, Vice President of Investor Relations.

You may begin your conference.

Deepak Dutt

good and operator you, morning everybody. Thank our XXXX. to earnings call of quarter third the for Welcome joined by Kaul, am Services General Operating Anders I Counsel. today President and Officer Rayner, CEO; Johnson, and and Chief Chief Dave Strategy CFO; Dean EchoStar Pradman of President Officer; Hughes; Mike of Satellite Dugan, Manson, our

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Dean Manson

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Mike Dugan

Dean. you, welcome Good to Thank morning, everyone call. our and

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Anders Johnson

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Pradman Kaul

Thank you, Anders.

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Dave Rayner

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Mike Dugan

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Operator

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Ric Prentiss

Thanks. Can hear me? Good you morning.

Mike Dugan

Yes.

Ric Prentiss

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things little about seeing you competitive Where think ARPUs Hughes very obviously nice margins should head to are which even margin you in satellites, the different in the environment, think U.S.? the drag? might of selling as will be First as international bit might capacity and you on side upward what able these the move have of about the we think a launch still expansion we markets, how

Mike Dugan

Pradman?

Pradman Kaul

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Ric Prentiss

corporate Okay. about costs think about other we the also, and mentioned then forward, dividends that other gains versus the the And that should other corporate kinds corporate I And items? you came should that think lower derivatives obviously, how run the how Dave with these quarter? we mentioned rating of can going investment line negative $XX into on thing bounce but around, you given exogenous million think and this line

Dave Rayner

year other would relatively a Yes, we’re but other press us going corporate are look bounce may items but bit that flat included other investments, but think investment get that the you so last stuff there’s what in but are of year-over-year, the of period, but things one-off in derivative operating the a increased lot expenses overhead got current so primarily combine from not all before, because corporate got year, bit a on as the we in and to fluctuate corporate think like going all up requirements corporate is we’ve that yes, we had accounting increases dividends around EML recognize overall and little at in it to companies certainly go it mean, portfolio the that in think I ramp say, inflation-driven the losses, that release to over more try and bigger bit on little a of spending of of I negative consistent perspective like our the to in relatively now little have it’s SEC of nature invested I the flexible, again, to the quarter, fluctuation are scale the are there once and line that we the a dividends I’d investment and I flat the on the mean, overhead, corporate we’ve we going I standards. there’s imagine yes, had that at investments break in how a line the little obviously, obviously, new time variance losses, GAAP an corporate and are it’s last and starting slight most a spending gains would will new with that things and have into segment issued accounting for volatility talked bit there, of to release in with some that, still those things some you’re the that in try over I control by in the the flexibility stuff beginning on the press I a that investment a part had more portfolio was reporting said, really more I out little on that the line you I losses to have standards category derivative lot, similar obviously, when whereas but tend the the some recognize over believe EML we would just get see those bit things of no line, I to if other

Ric Prentiss

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Mike Dugan

pretty for only that week X where be it if we current and although ago to us, completed of I can to say manage can tell we’re can, closely management been meeting we right we’re the they sector have as with Xx heavy we it’s so set them that here I public weekly, the it privately, typical exactly us, management now, they’re there’s Well, to team happy much we willing what on almost years a a do review satellite at with much just focused on a say to share you, as understanding as milestones the the team expected we’ve as a totally with going least we’ve talking though program so is the there significant not focus can are in we and is design portfolio.

Ric Prentiss

it was still, I ‘XX, say? was date launch the Pradman And heard

Mike Dugan

Correct, yes.

Ric Prentiss

questions. the for Thanks Brilliant.

Operator

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Chris Quilty

bit more net might was to coming little you I subscriber us adds domestically where versus of with give hoping the granularity able internationally? be they’re a guys. Thanks

Dave Rayner

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Mike Dugan

Operator, go to let’s Giles Thorne.

Operator

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Giles Thorne

questions, I Thank have Deepak. please. you, three

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Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

was first this question Alright putting now? not why okay. into have got I system more to OneWeb anything change just right you’re

Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

willing are are to milestones see you you change OneWeb? are view? wanting specific that looking you to out before see What What of to

Pradman Kaul

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Dave Rayner

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Giles Thorne

collaborating didn’t second the fine. And Okay, question why about with buy you just Yahsat and one my them? please,

Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

majority JV, Any position, why And a equal even an position? in why not a or minority there? the position color Okay. why

Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

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Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

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Pradman Kaul

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Giles Thorne

Thank you.

Operator

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Thomas Metscher

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Dave Rayner

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Thomas Metscher

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Dean Manson

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Thomas Metscher

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Paul Solit

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Mike Dugan

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Deepak Dutt

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Chris Quilty

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Dave Rayner

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Chris Quilty

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Mike Dugan

Pradman?

Pradman Kaul

changes. any No, not haven’t we seen really

Chris Quilty

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Dave Rayner

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Chris Quilty

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Anders Johnson

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Chris Quilty

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Anders Johnson

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Chris Quilty

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Dave Rayner

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Chris Quilty

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Anders Johnson

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Chris Quilty

Understand. Thank you very much.

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Ric Prentiss

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Dave Rayner

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Ric Prentiss

look how I can about the interest CAPX won anything in market, you you saw or not participated question terrestrial what United you a in the that the of you the Okay. you other auctions? but And what in think share bit maybe at then don’t to little the guys then? also auction States was you And about happen mentioned then

Deepak Dutt

carefully the better be based the to to for terms we be and auction a it directly. the and evaluated conditions economics market, decided that consumer directly Yes, felt should directly us and of proposition market other to continue the participate it better so to go to the analysis, that not that on and we address would

Ric Prentiss

Okay thank you.

Operator

And our Presenters, this you question-and-answer concludes continue. may session.

Deepak Dutt

participating to everybody Yes, conference. and does day. this us for end Thank the good you the of bring

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Operator

your participation. you And Thank this for concludes our conference call.

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EchoStar (SATS) 8 Nov 182018 Q3 Earnings call transcript