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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the First American Corporation’s Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to hand the call to Craig Barberio, Vice President, Investor Relations, for a brief introductory comment. Craig. you, Thank

begin. You may

Craig Barberio

everyone, call and American’s morning, to welcome the third conference for earnings quarter Good First of XXXX.

on Gilmore; DeGiorgio; Joining Executive Financial Officer. Vice today the be Chief will us our President Officer, and Dennis Mark our and Ken President, Seaton, Executive call Chief

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Dennis Gilmore

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Ken DeGiorgio

Thank you, Dennis.

As trends perform the estate to well. with strong our And these market, we business to you continues real mentioned, continue. expect

X% strong October, of while are residential unusually XX% XXXX. in far over XX% at they orders day up are purchase up our compared compared down commercial And prior October So an XXXX, year. to October per are orders X,XXX to

growth As to The in day into have the outlook remains orders to That average day we recently, experienced supply as uptick volumes in appreciation per expect healthy. per fallen market. of continue from said, order mortgage more in recent per September although X,XXX positive. expected housing this the the our expected, And home to for and remains October. will due to is rates, the X,XXX to is grow revenue on the comes which demand remainder in moderate, impact year and next we’ve purchase to refinance strong market price

expect delayed uncertainty business commercial the could pandemic into relatively law year strong forward and XXXX. uncertainties, to tax closing, a commercial in around now deals an of rates that believe deliver activity tax this backdrop in changes we interest year. low elevated certain we another as XXXX experience due Our Despite deals amount in economic are these were favorable will continues pulling and be that to

will we increased as by our this income decline mortgage generated residential we with increase, believe to bank escrow offset deposits. expect and from While refinance investment continue volumes to to we be able decline rates

than last offset the our turn to financial detailed income now results. more the decline review in more call a investment cycle, refinance I’ll for Mark growth revenue. in During over the of

Mark Seaton

Thank Ken. you,

realized investment to share. gains. net report of quarter. Included We earned in per were We’re results this results quarter’s $X $X.XX pleased this excellent diluted

a Revenue was revenue $X.X commercial and order. by compared title XXXX an of was segment $XXX,XXX, closed are strength the title quarter XX% in average up in million, last up we the earned transactions from increase X%, XX% I’ll the diluted XX% U.S. up Large was same billion, these driven up gains, markets. per share. Excluding revenue over Commercial as we with Purchase in revenue of a with premium XX purchase to than XX our deals record $XXX year. the per year. increase last greater $X.XX start due our with business. the

continue a agency a business, We record beginning $XXX the was have commercial In year business. our XX% year risen mortgage the year. year. up revenue revenue million, from the last as since declined in rates expect Refinance last relative to XX% record to of

related QX Given agent a economic revenues of the approximately quarter, activity. to reporting lag one experiencing in in remittances surge are we

Insurance loss investment income within other Company’s demand pretax $XXX information and up higher title to In was Services to information the X% for portfolio. relative primarily the products. and our revenues Investment Our average primarily in was to title million, segment $XX Title higher segment, growth and Company’s million, balances XX%, the last year. up due were Revenue margin XX.X%. due mitigation was

up believe in at $X Pretax in million, the up reversing. triggered income Specialty the the our the $XXX million, from in elevated as prior home loss compared year. many business are million fallen factors was totaled $X of year. to last X% in pandemic claims with from rate Revenue warranty Insurance home XX% onset warranty warranty Turning of has The home that we to XX% segment.

on a by had business Our had declined decline the of down third XX% of quarter end The loss casualty realized our tax our year, was to property related completed investment policies-in-force The normalized expect quarter. XX.X%, higher of for rate XX% and taxes a the to be quarter, $XX rate property year-end. the higher this beginning and casualty million third business the in to quarter. the the full of is quarter gains XX% tax of the effective pretax of track the state we by At due and XXXX. in than wind since

the into in had capital value this companies direct industry. remarks, million made $XXX market The effort XXth. Dennis XX $XXX a investments we’ve of his venture-backed in of September As invested we’ve as mentioned million in of PropTech

The million investment related SPAC. our venture the merged iBuyer quarter, recently that of we with from investments. was gain and recorded $XXX Offerpad This gains largest in our to

to and we volatility, we During to million investment a quarter, recognized market high expect impact results. -- we $XXX related This is Offerpad. that subject gain the expect of to degree quarterly our a

to Offerpad, home increased the share Prior authorization buying our have In Title to or we this recorded our also a gains to Sundae, damaged Insurance our on venture-related to quarter, a to moved we the the enabling a selling; and of addition sellers marketplace gains platform remaining activity million our portfolio a real authorization quarter, corporate and venture as investment million segment. In Beginning property; third dated for were our the September simplifying of all buy second estate and our $XX co-own in million realized Picasso, quarter, people had investments related $XXX and of we $XXX by company home. realized in third XXth. Orchard, segment. repurchase from combined

at in the Cash prior XXX,XXX During price $XX $XXX of of flow the an year. million the for XX% repurchased average a third up we operations quarter, $XX.XX. million total from shares was from quarter,

rate. raised notes the XX-year interest we X.X% addition, million $XXX senior In a of at

in acquisitions adjacent on in our hand invest in markets, such expect Endpoint innovative fund business core We title as capital to and use settlement cash solutions and to shareholders. our return to

payable, was of ratio September excluding XX%. XXth as higher debt-to-capital XX.X%, of to our or XX% XX.X% target Our than slightly ratio secured financings

to Now, I the take over your back would to to the like operator turn call questions.

Operator

comes Instructions] Thank Our [Operator you. with Mark from Barclays. first DeVries question

Mark DeVries

more the maybe Thanks. Dennis, you you’ve hoping, of was Yes. more on some recent made. investments elaborate could I

interested your about exit? but broadly, these after more point like do, eventually. these how you do to you you equity events And provided quarter good exiting fit how this think strategy. about think some of I they businesses what within At hear look some color, then to what more

Dennis Gilmore

specifically you’re about Mark, our investments? talking venture

Mark DeVries

Yes.

Dennis Gilmore

Yes.

Okay.

them performed $XXX both financially, We In strategically million the two Just recap. us. a really got of angles, gain. very financially they well secondarily kind at we and then right XX for from We’ve now. had quarter, of look and

that’s become and in continue closer activity. to in the fit. we’ll PropTech get is So, closer want customers customers our a We and more cases We us and importantly us, great. many strategic world. that continue ecosystem with those to for invest partners strategic for to to But want in

will part holding concentrated second But, right companies. now our strategy not your the a period lockout of in be public we’re in is, longer question Now, term Offerpad. positions likely on

So, that the in we’ll future. evaluate

Mark DeVries

Okay. are partnerships just versus business specific kind you there synergies keep -- would cause think investments? How that it kind more learnings? you of on example, ongoing of to do Are ongoing with those there that about financial

Dennis Gilmore

be them of just overlay The none would financial. are

we’re Offerpad, good large close referencing So, specifically us strategic is to partner. them. for very a A they a very all have strategic component, customer

together partners. all they we’ll So, companies, growing weigh of in are our that look about close but ownership when public position we

Mark DeVries

Okay, And one on commercial. just then, question great.

alluded the feels caused the behind the Could changes. you year? optimism seeing conclusion is about fact volume you is that of because I to that potential talk what think, given you’re of then, to And tax of like what’s it it volume that of for you just next what just you’re that a potential pull forward to of tough compare, seeing? some come kind kind

Ken DeGiorgio

expect outlook, our the a around the respect this Mark, to quarter. But, third to strong into heights in exalted seeing don’t by and what And street, really anecdotal, I there remainder mean, commercial we’re business to the and mentioned, Ken. have that expectations handful question. with large as in And gain what do think achieved to the of I is of is on probably The forward changes. pull year the lot strong. economy probably tax that I is we for a are the a with Yes. respect we’re achieve think I factors. going the respect XXXX. with we’ll the hearing of we’ve Thanks

still expect they’re then, a We chasing a low. still capital deals. interest lot while perspective, from And that to bit, a pretty up there’s historical rates are ticking thirdly, continue. And of

factors on for the commercial notwithstanding XXXX. into we’re this together, of optimistic rest So, forward, and pretty again, some all those pull of the again year

Operator

you. Thank

Our from next question Bose with comes George KBW.

Bose George

that Are through? you do Actually opportunities flow one the And just is flow there on through be for out side? stuff -- then, segment, Endpoint, that that on or to revenues that the venture over the investments. does seeing going forward, follow-up corporate to still guys going through incremental here on or

Mark Seaton

Hey Bose. Mark. This is

money are far, chasing The We fewer There’s deals venture. mean, cash still opportunities getting are $XXX seeing venture. in million put in I to work year-to-date, expensive. so deals. more more of we’ve

And of quarter, we’ll finding in so, the still too. there’s there’s -- I fewer, that but more would here and fourth we’re say, see opportunities,

financials Endpoint, the In the revenue Endpoint of all terms of and through title the segment. go

from your So, immaterial growing quickly. segment. it’s title perspective just question, to it’s revenue all really it’s today, But but a in answer to

Bose George

But, Thanks. Okay, you a just guys really I But, will then, and margins. And commercial would actually, great. know help. on don’t mean, you’ve like noted I little guide to declining XX% it’s -- margin to -- that. remain color range, purchase strong. just you’re in of kind Investment so income offset the of guided refis. XX%, ahead obviously running well of helps still and terms

color we go. could margins where So, think on just could any curious

Mark Seaton

Well, yes, I’ll that, Bose. with start

that I really in the is really margins past, So, given past mean, a that origination we’ve talked given environment the in margin but guidance past. was dated. blown we XX% that about the we’ve certain

out negatives, going at have very I to mean, I the to feel year. like a still mean, think So good right? market to going margins when is strong. is be we commercial there’s market the positives we XXXX, going We look purchase

We’re efficiencies out always in eking our business.

strong us refis. part, because that seen The a every to is don’t we is at obviously mean, the year increase have of I efficiencies. next margins most a the continue drive expect positive. most we to refi All You’ve least for for year. negative part as

more be going always on And we spend to that’s a So, then, headwind. technology.

of So, you to the Obviously, are mix mean, together, revenue where the a XXXX. also was is it in commercial I And be very a when similar function mix margins a of us with that I’d one term for longer is should great out thing that low is catalyst to business a investment income. we’ve its high-margin to Agency got But comes business. margin. very it point business. when

because $XX the levels raises. talked have given not is of increase, the our to Fed generate levels how of really million Fed investment $XX high when risen. just where million going we’ve when to we’re the about annualized to income our So, it’s the every side And increase. to that on Fed time we’re going sure But, going deposit are, be deposit does

little in a bit future. that’s So, think how margins about the we

Operator

Our Dowling next question with Geoffrey Partners. Dunn & from comes

Geoffrey Dunn

line show I other sensitive to maybe color bit a And on it the was you more influent if and revenue some to obviously looks That it’s growth. less to give specific wondering difficult project. it good title. making like could certainly continues volumes,

a the ‘XX? breakdowns some different specific you can to there So, how sight line of us out or could give better rough breakdowns offerings in in terms on us perform give of it ‘XX, in

Mark Seaton

Yes. Mark. is Geoff, this

of on as there’s not So, lot businesses item. X and of line mean you it’s know, lot It’s a information different other a business. businesses. I It’s different like

million there’s agency, growth less of not happy It’s and than revenue very well, our X% of reasons data growth of We’ve there we we of chunk mean, That’s about what for $XX revenue. I about example, the rate it. in of with kind biggest -- quarter, in a most We’re million this buckets Docutech I Most the $XX this related revenue. that. quarter. direct and few had revenue business. it had But, a we the saw for a of when few there. the got here, there, call to

quarter. selling for type had about so title things. $XX We We also not There’s title of our reports and packages had property it. $XX sell revenue forth. where sell claims and search on of the business we reports. where and have we’re lot that that And international million million sell, we about a or associated non-risk-based But, of information other no We just it’s with so business of right, risk-based. then, so reports

those things, are buckets. there’s So, other the biggest but

Geoffrey Dunn

each you the look mean being does about business, talk an we give I the one? order track demand when sensitivities, can buckets really that data those real estate at idea volumes four versus to through sensitivity and maybe your less flow of kind go So, and the of sensitive?

Mark Seaton

right? the order And like counts. customers we X.X at with go get for not say, would when So, But, transaction. I order tied there’s right? that for of kind if every most for business, times that refi our and purchase order, power are paid very businesses per to you a to of like in data we our do contracts transaction going and counts, minimums get premium. these goes over Data we’re the pay a right? just really right, none we per minimum paid really monthly It’s that thing they see. Docutech, Same So, get part, are involved, leverage business, for our the times look businesses Well, property other X.X hit, right? info tied reports

say, to on it off as of would the way that to the about we general based premiums I orders a So, title business. is as statement, opposed think see

Dennis Gilmore

Jeff, be quarters this well. in just businesses. these side in is I’ll going very to There’ll a of perform that’s only. to cause a of the probably headwind They’re probably impact transaction little here refinance still going headwind be there’ll dropping, couple next Dennis. and the additional. But, little

Geoffrey Dunn

And just about Okay, talk helpful. Thanks. wanted then, a bit. I to cash

just be you balance but First, days sheet now. are thinking re-upped really were with generally, with that do did on I investments? going not like capital to your that that you the in are on that give you’re big gains buyback. Can such to quarter And the reluctant what could typically how cash of going a you know cash? per these this largely debt gains holdco, expect passed about people to gains gains, just lot something be the big But right flushed monetizing then, it redeployment, turn, gains be you’re Is se. And through then, also, about ventures? when shareholders, the -- quarter. business? seems your these I’m specifics talking balance be reinvested this that cash that given cash to of you is And that in guessing these can it any particularly But, you

just you on elaborate those can So, two things?

Mark Seaton

start Yes. Geoff. The that. here, two on I’ll things

So, cash today, $XXX we’ve the got at million holding company. of

we deal. this million saw senior $XXX did notes You

felt in X We was two due just We have did deal trade. opportunistic years. like million next that’s We monitoring the our market our ‘XX, it two We due kind ‘XX. we’re of February $XXX really this up. as November bond coming bond pass in deals got coming an debt -- to good That’s too got conditions. we’ve of just years. We’ve

we happy right? we spend look intend So, cash the you where the the at is and Today, environment, on of really cash, one cash spend did rates this the when quarter going making things where with rate But in third to to time, we do to fungible, we the capital $X improve quite up is we’re $X And growing into bank. rise. very were of that’s go bank they’re side. put the $X, the deposits $XXX little bank bank billion. million rapidly. our to And we at The our put bank our our when our to And ROE, $X.XX I average mean, that. after-tax been billion. have the just balances very capitalize a and XX% every beginning take we by of is asset risk deposits have in. year, And

bank. the to $XX $XXX So, $XX probably in we do in put another quarter. million the fourth million million We’ll

in we next have next announce two, pipeline. company acquisitions or anything I quarter here ready two. think will holding cash go We But we’re at also that the robust not today. or the the that most have to pretty And quarter in toward of a acquisition

pipeline. of that in we something kind that’s the So, have

they’re more in we’re always also the holding future So, capital going some it to to than we’re but first of when we the right? then, suspect trapped look They’re just you at shareholders venture have capital about business. they’re the to the would them, deploying In all also in past, we at does are. investments, we’re grow terms and cash it’s point of term, to of how going monetizing very illiquid, convert to is excess to opportunistic be really that I think not we’ll our return going long as that all like most know, company. And anywhere. all,

we’re we kind -- it. So, about of just opportunistic

Operator

[Operator Instructions] from John with Our comes Inc. question next Campbell Stephens

John Campbell

plant to I first the just title touch efforts. on expansion want

original maybe can for guys you give you are sense the to of kind just X,XXX of the If where plan of relative think a year. I us

of I U.S. the think, that’s XX% or so coverage

or as us far where So, not? plans of as goal? go don’t then, XXX%, if an And give know there’s to to that if are we I idea sense eventually that makes

Dennis Gilmore

John, thanks for question. the

we plants. We’ll X,XXX track. We’re in go-forward they right new John, Again, X,XXX year-end. objective quarter, third Actually, are by on hit plants. go-forward our the had

our ability than extraction model our that’s completely technology we using economic historically. to do completely We’re at a changed just this have different

we’ll hit our So, objective. X,XXX

we be the second going we’ll to of sense question, that will that questionable That’s XXX% part The go opportunistic. coverage? in have to be really to

into We’re turning small that really get very to point. at counties the

term want XX% the our for we So, the of that level have to long us allows automation automation objectives. title

line, track, bottom to grow, So, doing on well. continuing

John Campbell

as helpful. this Okay. of you but plant of into plants, those back recycling further savings, that you’re I’m if thinking generating expansion. And up kind then, about are guys correctly, open think That’s immediate I kind you

a with So, you cost just if I cost per associated can give plant sense up And each? guess, then, the frame expansion? savings average maybe for us

Dennis Gilmore

or it’s much de plant now size from doesn’t on at the new pretty technology two. come like on basis Mark one put go-forward start. all a John. Yes. our us cost in it, a such of line It’s I’ll to minimis, but that on may it company, our this

on hitting of kind You’re two things.

this to really doing per coverage. if cost data expand we’re se, you not We’re our and is play, content savings what for will doing our

years the come. we only more capturing plants, building that significantly can to use not content think titling we processes we’re automate are we to our So, in

So, the it of more forward. from strategy but arbitrage a as automation going much so cost don’t think of

Mark Seaton

right? a X,XXX It’s we’re build history, go-forward we plants, And to John, we already another have have have the to in XXX I it lot already the the basis. electronically. we’re already paying images, and key already X,XXX have in of million here. terms and the images, on we $X of mean, the we cost -- just because billing A really incremental So, it’s is

de in of terms the it’s minimis So, really cost.

Dennis Gilmore

One don’t key and John. on these manually -- are want very last so at were that, different this, changed to and were we arbitrage detailed abstracted. that what’s thing, keyed, are but now is us that electronically is and -- too all efficient radically get the very I for cost being we But, historically, they’re

John Campbell

sense. have asked makes last I from in obviously then, That said the this influenced guys I’ve change. think by I Okay. And one flow. ratio, on no again, you one that’s is, but past, me this just the closing want order to check the

If you’re high level, -- like me it you couple at to the of orders just out at look at -- a from a least, rate. looks years, the faster last it closing closing that

am out anything reading there? or call too So, to into I that much

Mark Seaton

kind we No. orders today, and usually when the out good month. the the how many long-term No, and is side of order monthly the -- side. what good swings, call about the the -- there’s look at we’re to I when we that’s it look purchase refi or we kind to average, open nothing depending it’s closing on mean, of But, that on close, running subject both there. we XX% month a of have the and at on open ultimately

in closing seen any structural our ratio. So shift we haven’t

Dennis Gilmore

said, kind any Mark down. our purchase kind like the any see you the of in just -- up ratios, burst if John, numbers, and noise in we the the But see purchase probably averages. closing related if refinances of to historical will, it you at is running Yes. be would

Operator

Geoffrey Our is with next Dunn Dowling question & Partners. from

Geoffrey Dunn

specific up for your us being focus couple give of Can Thanks. innovation. talked spend? just maybe tech on I think Endpoint. wanted follow really your about laser-focused very on I comment a Dennis about of of you you buckets to areas Obviously, first

continue I Motorized. update spend you think of an partnership announcement what try are specific some just with a on -- to deploy efficiency? there the But, innovation and tech recent areas and develop couple your to was a about where

Dennis Gilmore

IgniteRE, the cetera. a others mentioned and last I’ve ClarityFirst, title Over few et calls, plants, the few

process think something the we more layers. So, you content, to right build if data effort. number That that’s accurate content to now. is, is automate for And our foundation timely more The that, accelerating assets, of big as kind of the accurate buckets, content big that’s will, buckets. coverage, coverage about of our a more talked that Geoff, are big The And for can the coverage. the both and us titling buckets continue more and out we’ve years.

So, of that’s level. kind foundational a

Second level, big buckets, titling closing. the automating Geoff, and digitizing the itself are

to So, transactions and talked prior now refinance automated. much want titling, large others we’ve we risk that on percentages on And hear the calls. a very much high decision, are that automation. of fully And about and companies, you and running different different it by you versus by are take risk when how how numbers full

have cetera, we the purchase. automation coverage, the content title et we headways a is effort purchase cetera, technology, we And we that have on and make think it transaction. significant on so, But, the on that’s that now, and ongoing. the title et will on the we we’re skills, think have big The we probably effort, the we be big multiyear effort we’re automation, focused have on focused that title automation can

would automated. that be less third The on transaction likely probably to be commercial,

mostly it’s the at So, play this residential stage.

continuing week increase questions, Endpoint. their changes. you funding And be component The to the we digital then, closing PropTech Endpoint looking the consistent the We’ve would And a long looking up not this now, them, over Endpoint become way growth matching by of think we really to different and more call necessarily I our a traditional line, really, different for escrow. commitment will, and the bottom of second major term, if right we approach I’ll that is will to we structural is bottom made They’re we’re now right of so digital to at More And looking a and of well quote, a million. of experience what for more very complete traditional other automation $XXX and closing efforts, in market the which relates revolutionary efforts the future. then going, the right mean more with I [ph] there. the -- have the the the automate, two highly multiple there. in have native digitization But, close. line, lot call call

and So, those that I continue space you’ll -- and foundation, investments closing. you high to kind then internally through continue us see digitizing gave of it opportunities excuse the capital us see for you’ll in -- see and us acquisition also And automation title data you’ll continue CapEx to buckets, look to put me. really other spaces,

Geoffrey Dunn

instances from Endpoint Are any you traditional is a seeing FAF? And follow-up. winning just where quick business

Dennis Gilmore

F&F FAF? or Traditional Okay.

Geoffrey Dunn

Within your traditional business your Endpoint channels? company, winning is from -- own taking own

Dennis Gilmore

any. Well, very, if very small,

just not fintech directly. going -- we’re out more We’re to really the

And not our trying to own we’re businesses. so, chase

marketplace -- So, we’re ties there. large. looking that’s partnerships by at to our a the different venture again, and And strategy and

Operator

is conference. you. today’s that questions Thank all That today. we This for have the concludes

your participation. your You for a you wonderful may And disconnect lines this at day. time. have Thank

First American Financial (FAF) 21 Oct 212021 Q3 Earnings call transcript