UPLD - Earnings call transcript Q4 2017

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Upland Software Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. The conference call will be simultaneously webcast on Upland's Investor Relations website, which can be accessed at investor.uplandsoftware.com.

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John McDonald

this afternoon you, our earnings me Thank good call. and President to afternoon. CFO. Hill, Tim QX our are COO; and Welcome Mike our Mattox, With and

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of Following that, QX our the with Mike at you will year provide guidance for detailed quarter XXXX. look and first share more numbers the a full and

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Michael Hill

and Jack, everyone. you, good afternoon, Thank

that we today's statements considered forward-looking meanings During include of the will the within securities call, laws. are

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John McDonald

Mike. Thanks,

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Michael Hill

you, year-over-year and Perpetual for outlook revenue for for was the Today, $X growth cover a Thank the the and Recurring our $X.X of quarter the Professional was increase fourth million million, full Total million. revenue year-over-year quarter XXXX. and first quarter financial revenue was million for to for XX%. services grew year-over-year. XX% fourth Jack. subscription an year XX% from fourth license quarter $XX.X representing increase. revenues the for $XX.X of I'll quarter, XX% the results support

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adjusted XX% of total up million XXXX $X.X same last or of Our quarter or fourth to year. was XX% revenue XXX% $X.X period compared EBITDA million total the for revenue,

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of the XX this AWS AWS rest X this of transitioned to our point, QX our have the discontinued to capital and doing, we complete have and the products In products so our expect So at we we migration server of to expenditures buying equipment. for year. by owning of

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Timothy Mattox

growth and with This In achieved of relationships we the going in existing incremental expanded both Upland. in sales, of Thanks, XXX% full and year ongoing our customers result of Mike, we well product I'm customers to from across areas software new as number every QX who good the and is results. customer to performance define their number customer afternoon, as expect full as results our success, everyone. commitment QX, our they value us products. operating and review the that a consistent realizing which for

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recurring focus in ARR the you With net XXX,XXX expanding year. and of XXX to XXXX X,XXX Score XXXK these took value DRR. customers including major average differentiated XXX% above through accounts major XXX customer globe, the about over both software that foundation Promoter $XX,XXX unified as best-run and also drive per full intensely over existing a of over relationships, More loyalty, core, Net revenue the the only customer Upland's UplandOne of sets we seen, total platform, expansions in Jack XX recurring For of XX as of year customer drove of than We value major creation now serve platform around great accounts. including At in customers revenue X,XXX are total companies approximate customer our as XXXX, Mike operating the XXX customers our annual believe to XX% financial success. new on results, and in This differentiated for relationships, we mentioned. define respect operational added account improvements. We not an be annual that aggregate and expanded and for can that we but operations. Upland's users through,

Qvidian, to within frame acquisition most businesses. enabled to have of complex This despite our playbook our integrating targeted to And our the we largest integrating by acquisition, Upland learnings companies, what approach playbook and acquiring and enterprise from date. us with them our In codified in the in unique terms call to exiting focus ability for be to refining software integrate latest continued scalable time culture an developed to believe each our QX approach we a in our have being With our and and In and that, Jack. and created customers, improvement continued efficient UplandOne us in performance invest of I'll commitment have momentum to strong beyond. continuous acquisition, the XXXX support with and on future. we acquisitions summary, process back willingness pass integration

John McDonald

the up ready this Thanks, for Q&A. call open time Tim. At we're to

Operator

Instructions]. [Operator

of from Suri comes Blair. Bhavan William question first The

Bhavanmit Suri

Do you hear okay? me

John McDonald

Yes.

Bhavanmit Suri

couple here. for A Maybe questions. this for is Tim Jack and of

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John McDonald

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perspective. making we're for offer Tim the up the right his lot groundwork So me But set terms I moves it, again, cake it's for to that. And on icing of the in let of a numbers. the think laying let

Timothy Mattox

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more help So couple say will that broad the customer applicability recent a acquisitions I our also contribute. across those of base. fairly have would

for if proposals, is that very mobile owned longer. as which then need a well as relevant a as at and So of across our we've companies, automating area, bids knowledge to you introduce, messaging management look number both and

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Bhavanmit Suri

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expansions. bit, talked So couple we interesting. I a about a that definitely just looks guess,

seen also for healthy this this every really customers You've new pretty one. quarter in much year, pick-up a including

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Timothy Mattox

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Bhavanmit Suri

final customers? couple Mike, because for I'll Got missing rates are a me. it. down some you in there. one can't of of out weeding hundred so there. units points Mike, from for A, And came then dollar net sorry mathematically sit then retention move basis is just the year. Or something? help is just some understand product the new that Just dynamics the I Am And right? that, me one

Michael Hill

Yes, pretty mid-XX%. about really, always talked I it's simple. We've think

like we still feel the And very, So in healthy. XX% XX%, very anything mid-XXs over the it's there. is

and So we're performing there, we're we feel well happy about that. like

Operator

comes of Your the line Van Capital. Craig-Hallum Jeff of next question Rhee from

Jeffrey Van Rhee

me. for several So

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these measurements. You take

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John McDonald

Yes.

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Timothy Mattox

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Jeffrey Van Rhee

I guess, Okay. And last just the me. for

prior keep quarter importantly, in maybe, this leaps Just and an the here then basket the impact if obviously, you more point, made to Jack, the more would. and you've organic? model couple of target in does comment, organic of of as directionally and that to thinking just sort about So update, you at How years last it maybe on your if able margins sales questions, tremendous are just that how does in your organic? in that resources, impact close

John McDonald

Sure.

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Operator

of from of Canaccord. Your next Richard Davis line the comes question

Richard Davis

question One sales like on motion. the

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Timothy Mattox

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Richard Davis

more Because guys what that are but audits, you get then process? that out money. And something regard I know spending you with in value spending excited good we are to it. for you XXX, of about where Got guys know

Michael Hill

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Operator

comes James. of question of next Your Brian the Raymond line from Peterson

Vincent Celentano

Vince Celentano on This is Brian. for

dynamics seen interest So to tax related we've reform. rates, macro some

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Timothy Mattox

Yes.

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Michael Hill

Yes.

is side. new just us customer Just you're for tax on tax demand, to but Asking us. that's It's tax up $X.X guess, year, million a million $X it. to impact the bringing about expected not Cash law the and still I

Vincent Celentano

then And to your powder terms can just potentially M&A? it. remind of leverage Got on dry in more you your comfort and level tackle us

Michael Hill

this dry Mike. so is Yes, powder -- again,

So debt our right versus now. X.Xx about leverage ratio to is EBITDA net

amount recurring leverage. feel that of confident facility revenue we our pretty credit leverage, existing with X.Xx allows cash And Our flows. us go up given predictable to and to

as anticipate as and facility fuel our result have leverage that further being we M&A our credit to growth. that we powder, we point a lot of open go of here the So expanding a do dry

Operator

Your comes SunTrust. of the Eric Lemus next of line question from

Eric Lemus

remaining us transition? first of color more timing to half the on that the little about half? are time able the those you of over should second XXXX. products transition benefit an talked the about that as be for as when Is Mike, You is to more benefit far then gradually throughout products model, think we or more in that as a of AWS a for transitioned going the the or year Are immediate benefit a these the And for that lag give transitions? to or of

Michael Hill

Yes.

complete So we QX the end of the transitions of expect to by XXXX.

goal. Now that's our

to we hope have QX. of little gross a improvement margin bit So in

acquired continue Now -- we in acquisitions would result those and I'm we that want to then it's talking improvement existing if possibly in QX. of thing. we and right have of completion data them, course, migrations an a to XX a future happen basis QX centers a future as migrate are little of do that, ongoing now, the to margin business, it'll bit of type be of points. But XXX with type businesses

John McDonald

terms equation. us improvements gives taking performance, AWS in terms terms CapEx of in security, out of in the simplicity, operational in of of the of terms terms scalability, in great of

today. migrate XX and got products we've initiative, at been to holistically, very already. I'm success looked thrilled And action of the part five, We've a over entire of it's a move. there significant the UplandOne and so remaining And that plan an it's great got X

Eric Lemus

Great. a Can how average Jack, talk you accounts, bit the the trended as about contract that And major little far more actually has you gave value. time? over color number as

John McDonald

Yes.

consistent. revenue Our definition has or has minus, plus of And stayed consistent. relatively average also $XXX,XXX, that stayed

it's X.X. Now I and our product sort back of account to harkens some will earlier questions, per tell major you, this probably of the average

it also But how huge opportunity that through Tim accounts, not and the be unfold not that it, expansion, to over laid see described, revenue the so can few into on we've cake. icing It's Platinum, for about increase but and I talked think predicate through to years. will numbers. the So next exciting the Tim baked have just major cross-sell. for we a Again, it's

Operator

further questions. presenters. no the turn back call over are the There to I will

John McDonald

Great. Well, seeing afternoon. appreciate that. to your We thank our you again good next time so you and and thank on this for afternoon call look forward you,

Operator

This conference concludes call. today's

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Upland Software (UPLD) 8 Mar 182017 Q4 Earnings call transcript