HMST - Earnings call transcript Q4 2019

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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the HomeStreet, Inc. Year-End and Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Mason, Chief Executive Officer. sir. ahead go Please

Mark Mason

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business. impacting We made ability these reductions without our compete to materially for

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million or quarter. X.X% also consumer business by core We deposits and the $XX.X by core deposits million increased or X.X% during $XX.X

of occur an achieving technology reductions estate than toward loans adverse and held curve our will lower profitability persistently the investment flat goals, real rate environment interest are meaningful efficiency had yield our operational, balances cost certain net of improvement making interest and later and margin pace progress for anticipated, we have originally the and While improvement. our impact and the on challenging

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such, the record As a the of at payable close to of dividend XXXX, the the Xst, of market of common on this the February as first XXXX the on shareholders to is accomplishments of with Xth, time XXXX. quarterly to-date the quarter February pleased Board reflect for initiation

time, the company's now consistency a importantly, supplementing determining and these In absolute repurchases. improvement in factors. with of to to the we that Most improvement. of in measures dividend, dividends to required the generation payout, for internal acknowledge visibility numerous the believe to we the have exceed the meet shareholders we return dividend have the capital because capital had XXXX path via are and capital growth level past, share common the we much both room support and to profitability greater than this continued anticipate sustainable we have considered current Board same we At

dividend representing last on a share, price of our per at initial share consideration, of $X.XX the Taking annualized everything week. yield set closing per a in results which into shares the currently Board $X.XX has dividend, approximately the quarterly dividend X.X%

factors that on dividend company efficiency planning the Board basis, our to intends quarterly for the and periodically pursues may profitability. as capital improving Notwithstanding an evaluate opportunities affect the ongoing

dividend, value confidence the addition the also the authorized our of declaration to common shareholders. and performance up long-term HomeStreet's creation $XX In of the Board million our future additional repurchase an stock, of underscoring for to in

Mark to And who turn of over financial details will I'll results. now, it our the share Ruh,

Mark Ruh

everyone Thank you, morning, and thank Mark. again Good us. for joining you

of was quarter which or to both diluted income, the of million the diluted Our and for of discontinued $X.XX per XXXX. compared $XX income or of per $X.XX results XXXX consolidated $XX.X third continuing operations net share, net for the includes fourth share quarter million

continuing XXXX the continuing operations income million fourth $X.XX third from income or of operations quarter for or XXXX share, $XX.X of quarter diluted million from was $X.XX per for Net of the to net compared per diluted $XX.X share.

Core or net quarter of quarter operations with million million income diluted share, core $XX.X per share. for XXXX from the per for was net $X.XX fourth XXXX compared third operations the of or $X.XX income diluted of continuing $XX.X from continuing

income operations $XXX losses decrease decrease non-interest the million core XXXX. and The net tax. net expense to primarily decrease the of credit continuing were a in from in net of income, quarter in expenses reversal offset due non-interest for operations continuing fourth approximately from provision from by Excluded was decrease XXXX fourth income of a and income for quarter in of a during net interest of restructuring-related

our from million XXXX the $XX.X million loans Net - third XX fourth interest quarter net The as the rate a decreased a by prepayments held of real decline due record and decreased $XX.X income investment driven result for loan in interest decrease operating in a during quarter. $X.X originations, quarter, the interest margin investment. primarily million the a to in and held in quarter, rate of loans higher for despite estate by in volume of environment lower commercial during loan to

held Loans prepayments $XX.X the $XXX to of quarter due investment to billion the million million of for approximately of million $XXX held-for-sale. primarily and to fourth end at $X.X decreased transfers

as Home money of deposits. balances decrease XXst, X% lower decrease from result deposits lower at Bank of XXth. interest-bearing September rates liabilities our and the primarily were Loan brokered interest short-term a market December of resulted and Lower Deposit on a rates of billion in $X.X Federal cost advances a in balances

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in basis fourth the basis points net a result interest margin quarter on XXX basis quarter. from of points to changes, foregoing a decreased our the in XXX the third tax equivalent As

assets of no December during during and recoveries reversal the higher our Non-performing of quarter balances reduction points The at the losses remained assets of $X fourth loan quarter at $XX.X provision had million, for slightly in due XXXX to to through credit and quarter XX total for December We but net was XXXX. XXst. reversal losses of a basis allowance third increased the in loan reflects to XXst, the million, compared of level provision of XXXX.

U.S. requires loss credit and loan consideration reflects estimates. expected On standard. a accounting methodology the Generally broader reasonable an information losses range losses incurred XXXX, and to replaces for with credit Accounting forecast January Xst, of losses credit the lease Principles current referred to credit in and allowance of expected allowance that model we adopted CECL loss CECL reserve inform for as Accepted loss

approximately it at levels. in net our will be newly be financial January capital XXXX in first an adopted in aggregate income retained regulatory results. of or The XX, CECL materially our earnings adjustment This not in compared credit standard nor adoption impact resulted will will as reflected recorded million did allowance The reserve Xst ratios. $X.X December quarter and XXXX impact losses for of XXXX increase to X%

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or expect revenues quarter and discontinued fourth discontinued XXXX results the Going results. material will there with financial end expenses no that associated operations forward, the with of we be disclosure operations will that

call Thank the over turn you for your Mark attention. to Mason. I now will back

Mark Mason

you, XXXX plan, model cost laid our second lower efficiency and to and reduce improve simplified our call, and a Thank On growth management Mark. by our expectations. our our established quarter operating business consultants efficiency informed reflect structure to out by we

operational, many reduction organizations. organization, of redundancy, The levels residing simplifying in changes. multiple real range the reducing currently which functions estate technology, structure involve management and by plan identified opportunities, organizational consolidating substantial a management and include similar personnel expense These of

possible in work possible and direction. services systems and near-term. redundant primarily major We to salaries these in in continued where savings decreases over expense eliminating the primarily staffing be volumes or contracts turn company and identifying changes where in recognize centered technology, to Renegotiating and anticipate the significant adjusting unnecessary

average medium-term quarter plan this replaced. decreases established Potential efficiency third on that as we of on average are equity cost expense over the Based year. in return return expire in technology occupancy the by for assets, the targets ratio decreases contracts tangible and or over and on term information longer

relatively made stable. These margin of interest were targets the our assumption and the would remain that loan with net our size portfolio

feel on Given revenue that no margin, size the our the the portfolio produce interest based. longer and will decline reduction targets in were those net of loan unanticipated our we which in confident we ongoing

by would space assumed our reduced, headcount The targets also and cuts was projected IT expense initially was repurposed as as were contracts occur renegotiated. consultants office

at maturity. cuts vendors be willing in real agreements have these we have However, will part been re-leasing detailed now a analysis able prior that and existing pace no expense extended to-date believe have that functions, longer not our consultants originally significant of completed to technology forecasted, the more timelines achieve estate to restructure to because had major we we been

will achieve in believe mid-XXXX. profitability we our planned We targets all continue to that be to of able originally

are issued guidance the We of amending previously for targets. those our timing achieving

the not increasing of goal our to meeting we still with will expectations, and progress quarter this in toward profitability year timing of disappointment make original the third Despite more believe our substantial expenses of reducing by our come. we profitability

goals, the impact Assuming changes that consultants an assets of in capital return changes result points impacts third we average expect equity of and year. reductions the able interest and current the expense or projected that margin and management would rate by of by to approximately basis of the on to credit as net return the we a our XX planned are ratio approximately or other average our business in expectations efficiency currently now our low-XX% in environment, negative accomplish beyond absent interest our range, or ability quarter realize achieve continuing to in to in XX% on changes environment tangible management negatively this

management. third and pleased achieve though to we to efficiency range to due equity various resulting XX% Even are in mentioned, the the ratio low Thanks I've sheet target tangible year factors have the balance an XX%. expect only at of now return to the average this remain on favorable capital by we quarter

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and mid-XXXX, believe of of tangible can mid-XX% on assets the we an return ratio equity By in we achieve points average on XX%. approximately return XXX a efficiency average range, basis approximately

in held the for our by expect this year, offset For and investment flat single-family average in loan over balance commercial periods. these ongoing increasing our first resulting to portfolio, loan in second loans slightly a runoffs quarters we growth of portfolios, of

maturing growth to Same replace to core deposits periods, FHLB offset decreases of servicing-related of deposits the attractively average more CDs these We promotional to with used by of fund we transfer priced consumer business broker [Indiscernible] deposits. continue decrease expect continued deposits. rates to and with interest the hope advances and

the quarter margin loan stabilization in reflecting yields. in assuming the of and Additionally, of this ongoing interest curve, year, slightly begin yield we expect our deposit our asset portfolio in lower flatness size first to the the costs net and increasing the

concludes for any prepared comments. you this today. I be This your have attention our time. you and questions would Thank answer Mark happy at to

Operator

question Davidson. first Today's Jeff from with Instructions] ahead. Rulis [Operator go comes Please D.A.

Jeff Rulis

Thanks, good morning.

Mark Mason

Good morning.

Jeff Rulis

that can I Jim a Board in the curious what well-respected next and has significant the just with share maybe guess, how of I strategic the nearly of a could change in evolution, if on you Board, in the guess, that – addition to a stage since and I you the evolved? year signaled with conversation of the Mitchell undergoing congrats as Chairman am kind the really release since kind the certainly the company's on region. conversation the Board to that we're the banker

Mark Mason

status The about Well, is make your, more change I want is strategy? our sure specifically, your what Jeff? of what answer I conversation your question, just question. in to the

Jeff Rulis

how the Yes, it's next the there. you shifted a release entering with say, on in Board? again a of refresh. retirements stage, framework - But the know Jim's kind has year appointment there level conversation is a ago I referenced of from high the Board today some just, the

Mark Mason

Sure.

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that these for we over look with most the years goals As recently a added last goals we refresh directors two our search of have actively further been consequence, if the at appointments. Mitchell, directors Jim our goals a and diversification you with addressed those have have Board many involved in to new business we and to the and

little Pellegrino of our most appointment helping both Sandy the the particular commercial with executive Mark Patterson, Cavanaugh buyside with additions recent with Two, And particular and address management with back, strong HomeStreet. Nancy experience in goals, investor commercial banking with One, a farther Mitchell and banking diversity individuals strong community primary Jim experience. increasing bank experience in our in Bank's experience and market.

are anticipate And their the banking, expertise, retiring experience. of end if at commercial terms, look individuals substantial you general estate who and we we business at real losing development the

focused high the - are not particular willing continue so, it Mitchell on does is have it recently, but that that we process, really am speak And addition only attracted as take to the pretty very the a its to develop Board search us assignment I on I of individuals, to and skill personal happy refreshment the of company. and sets in by and tickled decisioning Board's the is quality compliment it help Jim and well is Jim take these

Jeff Rulis

influences. But base the savings in level little we cost Thanks. the color. quarter, trend for kind XXXX you've fourth into and trying level on of Ruh, could have down expenses And appreciate the some your some XXXX? quarter as and puts what if about for perhaps could got that us this give would line question but you through I later were expect on this the that we guidance quarter? a Mark understanding the shifted to kind Maybe seasonal, calendar, mortgage base core some you the comments takes, some of assign what's there the proceed then what narrow a

Mark Ruh

non-interest core correct? the is is that expense, looking for for, looking are you you're So, what

Jeff Rulis

Yes.

Mark Ruh

see, obviously the and outlined, are cost efficiency as a a we see lower that have I march downward continue and as to going impairment are are mean, Okay. Again in cut FTE's to to toward we mean goals space. a march we we going again, office costs, I as had continue we just lease as mean certainly, you we that. going we therefore going related then well salaries occupancy I to recognized expense on the we forward, rationalize that to

past, with G&A, in continue certainly forward. because – people we other we the well, the cost And are to the other again, as extra just going associated at move those the was that company that's Legal in to as decline cetera. all stability expect would the et but having expensive

biggest think of see I continue going kind here the that salaries cost and to So, are march in you're again and down. a

could that to that of And February lower year, we finally and under have, are X,XXX that then we towards out just even number look, we headed. you number people have correlate goals. mention And and going that we gave the we the in put you where that we marching we into did guidance which we anticipate is which have IT, that next medium longer-term X,XXX, in

the expenses. anticipated told that's we couple crack we harder going again, you going this, and will that than is for we we've than – quarters But are we on of on on the longer-term to the that. we these are a is now The to IT But nut nut longer crack anticipated. timeline

really longer-term. So that's

Mark Mason

to this just Mason. Jeff, I Mark is that add would thought.

the right? of over There back operations core, reconciliation calculated a look If number disclosures for there $XX is of is non-interest million. just the from earnings in continuing expense release, you at the non-GAAP

in that press be the or to things unusual what would adjusting you we've that call release or other baseline. get for would You should call to disclosed I really a non-recurring

Jeff Rulis

the what see? And XXXX, would the ranges for quarter? What of the question that the quarter? number in sort number the can fourth quarterly to assign are that fourth expect we is What – then core Yes. you in fourth remains

Mark Ruh

not would XXX%, make just - for but of million take – a which I was $XX expense, Well, some above and some which adjustment compensation was unusual. the somewhat reversal the adjustment stock

the targets originally three performance have performance it period But always year stock to We over the company's I had adjust to the am wasn't will make assuming. established. we going because compensation expense,

And be so, invest, it going had to that stock not reversed. is to

unusually FDIC I received nice won't a would that insurance, Those a quarter, expenses. insurance, is make Last call the on adjustment it quarter. our banks all I primary deposit community would operating which this these dividend, our reduced I - a adjust - credit

expense non-GAAP I then So our to Mark's the disclosures categories estate, comments to what disclosed, would with in adjust technology through we decrease consistent and get continuing number headcount, the and core as start go baseline a continue we've real reducing various expenses.

Jeff Rulis

thanks. Okay,

Operator

go And question our of Steve from Moss Please today next ahead. comes B. FBR. Riley

Steve Moss

Good morning, guys.

Mark Mason

morning, Steve. Good

Steve Moss

the think we the off are to think that on range quarter? upcoming to to should quantify million you of about XX% we time XX% range $XX.X that, the to for curious little you get at to decline could number the by expenses, we as fourth year, kind the as looking the Just overall a and in FTEs of if be reductions Just know you bit? call it about

Mark Mason

that. I am going to calculate let you

We on think guidance reasonably those can income targets pretty seasonality I equity, in margin for that able non-interest be and have good return forward adjusted you project on numbers. drop and given assets and to on you'll I given think the

Steve Moss

then And on downs And looks about had - are the commercial balances like? the growth estate by what the growth loan just year on thoughts resi pay throughout what your of pipeline here, real and wondering loan kind mortgage, Okay. the multi-family here? good obviously then, you

Mark Mason

loan We decline loans for estate on balances the commercial guidance a overall held single-family and to slight –continue over replaced did with that real general mortgage expect increase balances in some to investment decline being balances with give we lending year. commercial

Steve Moss

Okay.

pipeline commercial strong. I it take So loan the still remains

Mark Mason

I that sorry, question. didn't answer I'm yes, Oh

fourth quarter is this the the year. relatively is There weak year, period started not particularly with that pipeline, a historically is we right? year, at itself and the have out of of this closing rush to weak So pipeline typically, the transactions the end a true

due to environment. in rate part the I think low that is

is pipeline mortgage, at the pipelines and area, the think than for the we the than than at a is refinancing rate, typical that will ten stronger accelerate in this while normal higher every recent somewhat in purchases year. changes application entered single-family the typical including year higher – with I lending year

here Sound, home Though concerned little new I pipeline. you, will this resale dropping be about a in up market Puget which higher a – prices are will means purchase again, of moving and home we least than inventories sustainability our caution and at again in normal home are home

active. estate, quite real Commercial

had quarter saw in last but origination permanent for construction largest dominated history and very continues be the new very, market You this is we our a that we are a by few we lending, That year making loans. stronger year. looking to are active, even year than

great So, we feel about estate. commercial real

strong quite Homebuilding, And driven area. middle by year, business markets. entitlement is That we but was are pipelines pipeline an as pacing great in a pacing, C&I of there and those and in ever-strengthening still a pipeline. are in well land last strong the lull while the

in year the substantially more come better better better was better C&I in with substantially year meaningfully that can it we a our numbers you volume, somewhat while improve we tell well. but to I had don't to as efficiency this profitability group, as We and those of in break continue out, business

Steve Moss

Okay, that's the around past – commercial given XXXX? again pretty then, good do helpful. mean, should sale commercial you upcoming for year? thoughts increase year, And that on expect any year this here, to that gain loan demand just strong I in the

Mark Mason

year, any of course, reason increase. materially. going Well, change we We that believe know. if are will don't on we will sale not in get we volume numbers have the the But to further gain to increase until

significant already year. of completed We've first already in market our sale this the active year. We are that

this And so, to at are I we continue at at feel juncture good that better. least this or pace going

Steve Moss

you Thank All very right. much.

Mark Mason

Steve. Thanks,

Operator

Our today next Bohlen KBW. Jackie ahead. go question from comes Please of

Jackie Bohlen

morning. good Hi,

Mark Mason

morning, Good Jackie.

Jackie Bohlen

with start to wanted off buyback. I the

just and repurchases of new in outstanding that level through the to really is quarter then, forward the and activity repurchase and growth, fourth level for and to at a absent the the us you asset going meaningful year for the quarter repurchases? look had good this good in You fourth looking have authorization

Mark Mason

That question. is an excellent

repurchase like are still analyzing We going will what activity forward. our look

FDIC of the our I be little have should continued conversation with the Bank. reason Tier plan we X have our baseline a have am Part internal what a in at minimum the We to hedging repurchasing. still is about

non-formal before since have with many has For Tier by least a for the X% the years, at and capital maintained of the planning level course and Bank IPO, agreement that we FDIC up. driven X the at Bank, since our

the position, our of Given the plan capital return much substantially results we and results, shareholders. more reduced making the improving baseline company, may to strong improve can be to which the simplified assumptions, potentially our of changes business capital volatility only

get current most Even levels current the which the authorization at $XX additional completion to should hope though, Board after from at of authorization, we least us million the an recent take increasing the through that of middle for in prospect the year. the of the And be dividends and results for profit the with improving prospect should accompanied we future. think also operations

about will a similar of period some And this time. all these paces environment, optimistic for so, capital of things continue or taken consistent in think profitability return in we that together, I'm that assuming continued credit improvement at

Jackie Bohlen

And If – Okay, through you the you've are looking going said, understanding latter thank the you. contraction of in That's then given the Or that, so. the quarters are single-family then be first like half to two you you or looking only portfolio fluid that helpful. have and a are what expansion the to the in predict would balances year? expecting year. of to first environment half

Mark Mason

the exceeds portfolio point, at single-family environment, fourth some originations. our are portfolio, and And all seeing caveats rates to that Given there natural runoff the you new everything, downsizing stabilization again, quarter on think stabilize, with low we that rate later activity and the be in should origination this the is year, a somewhat a right? going so of Well, or right?

Jackie Bohlen

Yes.

Mark Mason

end of of that pattern the towards should kind you So, see year. the

Jackie Bohlen

Okay.

say you otherwise you enables the the accelerated would the you than So some has natural see, is have? that given business stabilize and to that operations sooner environment so change of it low would fair in the to runoff rate

Mark Mason

Well, I – is we everything. I'll Stabilization, because, higher fair. think a a caveat on experiencing are you a runoff that's give bit of

these, all if level so. And I the absolute right, can't stable, runoff are stabilizes of say those mean, so, I we until right?

Jackie Bohlen

everything so going So mean, fully yes, pieces. have how many much right now understand fluid yes. No I you and how different I moving on, and is

on others working difficult dependent of expectations some you the to you them with. to what I further And have that you potentially that note, you initiatives the What, for when last could savings me, look one and predict timing can are? on some you understand responses one what delay new that that Or are that events beyond cost that, reaccelerate the your you expect? a are just lot it's of are the the do either from of

Mark Mason

Also to we today are clarity here along question. farther our opportunity sit about by the us a greater in so size timing. have the presented Because opportunities we analyzing the we the and consultants, great much as of

we analysis that So near of things respect least at further the our functions for believe really acceptance within - stronger with to our personnel reductions and are changes of substantially The are the to the could things control. within term the complete forecast, remaining company. our hands change pace of by

functioning been be because is of handled changes a the bank. and making significant risk management this carefully have remember, correctly. we processes and And careful aspects Those with, control to very need

on fast of for work similarly, make a that carefully things resources that nor and these has errors restructuring. people that all changes technological any reduce it's but big and are differently, not to happening at done pace we any heels and challenge been internal of To-date, a thoughtfully with we the important things control have lapses think created made efficiently relatively move and

and overhead only that There is There further have and in members a pacing we many that operations. is several of consultants and extra so has adoption bank is week analysis days not rates. acceptance with and the based management upon on areas been so we many completed are of time. only doing corporate corporate So,

is think opportunity. We there the I so, issue. we reasonably And feel a challenged. good pacing been timing feel, about has The

frustrating are respect With on estate, very successful And how example, us. market area so here, a completely but re-lease issue and we building for a somewhat we been that of as has strong been to market a somewhat current our that to but can and our real market is hands. trying quickly And we've not three out floors re-lease in has timing technology opportunity an competition. that a of space is successful,

cost the We know decline meaningfully. will

providers. - any meaningful We partners them unable moment, enter for provider technology to partners get for particular, our the discussions core to our are our renegotiation. call In into I'll service

that know should rates the agreement paying the in are be those the the and volumes meaningfully – core agreements, we particular we in levels yet, above our And levels, service today. provider above

to drive Now up responsible need of for consider technology contract to to are upon it's they get all them, the we changing to should order into, so but frustrating be. entered it's living maturity in these where quite the look, in it's and line us we going to are a with costs

provider is in numbers one unfortunately, largest XXXX. service doesn't the core of our until technology And mature which contract,

based I hoped what could of occurred part is we somewhat helpful. yet. consultants, this that's our has so And but we upon renegotiate of hope experience earlier the not it

Jackie Bohlen

to generally? this how answer, understanding I changes something comprise is Yes. the No, doesn't expected you're XXXX, with expire no, am regard make until know able a is your to contract big it savings want or that I of chunk but with does just of to very your core that helpful. that cost service in you if don't -

Mark Mason

I that answer love question. the think can the confidentiality I don't I in in contract. because provisions of part, answer that to would

Jackie Bohlen

No fair enough, fair enough, so.

Mark Mason

but mid-XX% ultimate year and year, the of right? would next given level some this, this it's - we meaningful, before mid the outcome your at say of me and in to change you guidance going efficiency we're course, quarter mid year we've next range, let But through third then. believe But be and

is XXXX, not hitting numbers. not that's to those us XXXX going to prevent So is contract itself right? So that – going from XXXX not it

Jackie Bohlen

question. That included Is was Yes. my in that? it Okay. next

Mark Mason

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Mark Mason

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Operator

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Steve Moss

things, I just guess couple of follow-up a guys.

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Mark Mason

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Steve Moss

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Mark Mason

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Steve Moss

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Mark Ruh

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Steve Moss

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Mark Mason

Thank you.

Operator

conference remarks. over for Mr. And are to like any back no questions. closing turn ladies Mason I'd and further showing we gentlemen, the to

Mark Mason

We and talking us listening appreciate attendance and I next forward great Look appreciate questions. to you to patience to the today. your quarter.

Operator

now for attending thank Today’s sir. We presentation. conference has today’s you concluded. you Thank all

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HomeStreet (HMST) 27 Jan 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript