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Operator

Good morning and thank you for standing by.

You are joining BMC's Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being recorded today, Thursday, February 28, 2019. Carey Phelps, Director of Investor Relations for BMC will now provide the company's opening remarks.

Carey Phelps

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Dave Flitman

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Mike McGaugh

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Dave Flitman

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Jim Major

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result fuel category, year-over-year point in reflects fourth we million a components. our the compensation margin XXX to gross and quarter year-ago. as of expenses and the of stock-based $XXX gain As with related incentives employee-related prior performance million on SG&A variable a morning, compared compensation a the million a basis to increased costs, and this general of increases to within other year. diesel improvement Selling, strong million basis acquired profit-based administrative sale Shone structural the point $XXX.X and the other at salesperson related such recently Lumber from our $X.X related press increase benefits million during this sheet goods in lumber to property the increase in increase related $X compensation, to employee business, and the of $X million XXX to within this rose release commissions, $X.X and noted year lumber costs. million resulting related $X.X in improvement this and

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income by million diluted Our to in last as to year. Adjusted $XX.X drove or strong net share period year and performance gross diluted quarter $XX.X prior the year income million per diluted compared deflation, incremental $XX.X $XX.X a per improvements for asset real higher the share margins, estate. year. offset $X net to Adjusted on EBITDA for million partially share $X.XX million million million $X.XX the the in million from per fourth or as compared quarter increased from the than benefits. per prior produced same which EBITDA commodity increased $X.X is diluted the $XX share, to excess Floor $X.XX acquisitions from double realized These improved $XX.X the of million more were we million adjusted operational $XX.X sale a and of by gain prior reduction disposed to other organic million decline the reduction $X quarter growth, net business, a our to Coleman $X.XX

to million for which highlight operating more in than doubled full year. quarter Another $XXX cash XXXX our the $XX.X the results fourth within and million was flow,

ended As also liquidity, on $XXX.X improvement, hand of a we in which million our revolver. includes availability result million cash excess this total and of $XXX.X significant year the with on

price note much our years. total year-end, X.X element November. BMC to our We're but million repurchased announced of five at authorization will per strongest places the fourth $XX does allocation a industry. net dollar $XX.XX inception, of adjusted believe capital declined a shares flexible million term XXX,XXX an our in As within of due share sheet price have average next more proud is not repurchased single at we Since in quarter X.X $XX.XX strategy, in the to XXXX. we which that new an shares of have longer talk among EBITDA, average in the debt long-term to that the debt repurchase and one balance a were of including of share times XXXX detail that about we Dave

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are year outlook there company spring off Just clarity as during crucial peers we going profitability from around a many months. until public have is buyer full to behavior providing our done, sales and more of the hold XXXX

we the on to trends enough X.X% the acquisitions X% a period noted have to moment of to quarter the Despite provide overall are construction based the I of remained have and into variations our ago, respect growth far the net impact our first backlogs recent date. we expect seen outlook with from from However, to we regional Coleman sales disposition. Floor of stable XXXX,

X% by the so to $XXX $XXX Lengths averaging total XXXX quarter first XXXX. negatively index in first Random has Lumber averaged in quarter X% our sales be the of impacted expect after to We as far

quarter. quarter all sales $XXX the million. EBITDA in is first first $XX expect in XXXX The we on margins impact are in extraordinary million the XXXX, X.X%, selling quarter of we revenue quarter remain delivered quarter Putting of the year-over-year to margins together, the decline pieces one level above expected quarter third between the prior although recover day first first XXXX result expected gross fourth is between less produced range which by to Gross we and in productivity these that quarter continuing the quarter feature first adjusted to from year, day $XXX will This and net expense will than improvement yield to first million also our of negatively million. in the expected and XXXX. but focus $XX of we

and a housing unable in sales time, the confident growth are the reaccelerate remain in over starts to we our profitability bolt-on we and our outlook year. to provide While the for to year from this realize products, volume full XXXX course at opportunity of of the acquisitions combination value-added in potential investments

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to predict, to constant to the $XXX of were commodity sales sales of our range XXXX, most full as pricing $XXX average be and the net to XXXX, the is year throughout nearly impossible compared expect comparisons in lumber with quarters hypothetically to would we second to in volumes, XXXX. if by X.X% While sales negatively indices impacted total continue to year-over-year assuming third and X.X% difficult occurring

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that Beyond year our certain website, invest is the $XX on we posted and opportunities in All In the our automate to good financial driving CapEx that that, and exciting to the are our lead XXXX, both spend to is improvements our on plan. and control. the into within momentum start in This cash experienced between to million and expenditures we investor the $XX push and and of well enhancements. million XXXX. XXXX, in have we provided have make other strong despite to productivity we in in a purchases the result investors capital IR further some including times XXXX fleet uncertainty we many plan all necessary off automation our replacements which extended other on expect assist of operational as full our manufacturing expectations operations materials fact have market, in flows as those increase

Our coming continued team motivated to look the reporting progress forward in is we and quarters. highly

call to So back Dave. over with that, turn I'll the

Dave Flitman

profitable Thank it our our our balance that our crucial you, strength these Jim. enhance as as underscores our remains of making organic flow among priorities. Accelerating services make our investments strategies in top well categories inorganic and And to most the confidence value-added investments. growing products growth is and including our and cash ability to operating sheet customer

of X.X leverage with with position $XXX aggressive ratio along provides to avenues a liquidity year-end our capital strategy. long-term execute allocation against at flexibility up million create strategy, low strong within many to us appropriately shareholder value significant Our opening growth

to we targeting highlighted, we apart drive make approximately remain sales annually a believe we and to building on in It of value-added to are are organic and and will of X.X% automation Mike and to continue so. CapEx. material We leader services, as First, investments to X.X% intend will and in in be a primary sets our success. innovation to growth continue the driver products spend space, us our

acquisitions value-added our very on including about with to and reputation aspect ability customers, our capabilities well as very attractive many I augment execute to enhance this of and footprint. offerings, pools strategy. as XXX Second, of provide With over bolt-on identified, attractive way an geographic feel our opportunities our strong good

our growth of value confidence strength This repurchase demonstrates way annually shareholders. long-term they arrive. bolt-on $XXX of allocation program still forward, Jim million continued yet keeping provide important acquisitions, to company. authorization in million the noted, and as our opportunities, our intend top-line we our And of share should prospects capital finally, an element add $XXX our while strategy from another to larger to million flexibility and average return the to remains approximately Going $XX for to an our

capabilities, well us flexibility invest our XXXX Our us of. year, remain will our we delivered capitalize to balance capital and uncertainties, and performance we enabled to we of we on the other what and our be focused market XXX% in level into our will high team to System and homebuilding sheet, flow in sheet provide can BMC's some and including our Despite differentiators, positions continued as customer control. our was proud Operating our entire XXXX innovation, shareholders, heart cash scale, by BMC and results organic growth momentum our opportunistically This return key and should service the balance exceptional automation value-added improvement priorities. we size our solid This the strengthen of for the levels. season. as head on continuing while inorganic

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Operator

you. Thank

be a question-and-answer We of proceed conducting Please session. question. first the Our will ISI. with line [Operator comes now your with Evercore Morrish question Instructions] Trey from

Trey Morrish

to your much. margin Hey, And guys. by keep impressed up. very very your gross Thanks great quarter, sales the and ability

a to first the I'm better on the year-over-year gain just your reported The Was sales in project you what guys Was thing surge picked generally a want you improvement XX% quarter. big in there that multi-family wondering markets I guys on. big at such something, end? touch the was there drove in up?

Dave Flitman

is I of a been has just this focus comment time. Dave. that company multi-family the Trey, a long for would

for a into a the gaining the of, focus XXXX, in it's carry half improvement organization the pipeline key back momentum. particularly saw we XXXX. we're that and should significant Over But our over in course of

Trey Morrish

in Okay, such inventory. so quarter, in been you've coming about big And your buying lumber got you. have so, a different gross then, prices has margin, just of the benefit as and lumber down, the been you and thinking

XQ you just last, could or drop it said XQ? from I'm or long do still a maybe of see But benefit in from the lumber of will XQ benefit that should XQ sneak into even So lumber. bit only last wondering think massive I'm you some thinking, a how will through a fallen this how

Jim Major

this Trey, Yeah, is Jim.

said a still QX. for probably into last The QX we the kind we here we today. coming carried those starting by of second the normalize I the to to margins the in over bit. and continue sometime here occurred probably are call, the months months sit gross probably expect But to as margins would peak couple levels their in as us They're of so first gradually and or run of on course decline think historical above the quarter. of month

Trey Morrish

it. Got appreciate much, I Thanks it. and Dave. Okay. very Jim

Jim Major

Sure.

Operator

Thank you.

comes Matt Bouley Our the proceed next from question with question. Barclays. of line your Please with

Marshall Mentz

Marshall Congrats for results you Matt. for and my thank on on is This the taking questions. morning. Good

Dave Flitman

a Thanks lot.

Marshall Mentz

I like the wanted the expecting your a quarter. low-end weather first outlook. some to saw lumber day your you're start pushed the with you're on I about net looks sales context into Taking the of comments first even range. in Could of moving maybe only the additional pieces difference, what that at the account seeing quarter on the it some into acquisitions, recognized prices, market? selling around modest provide volume decline first you your XQ backlogs and you

Dave Flitman

points I think, far different is we've just QX. made backlog various we some I But solid say to effects effects pushed into we did point, the broadly, and that Marshall, formal the that Jim's we've in Yeah, and comments entered geographies, in would pipeline his certainly have the quarter. as here, so across seen Jim as backlog of seen still weather our while QX in our what QX some

Marshall Mentz

talk follow-up that, - quarter then, dynamics of specifically a obviously, the that's on discipline in performance? to just the compared said the way, on Great, you volume you could - in Are And market? quarter? the in your quarter helpful. selling a margin having some a how maybe get margin, gross And walk lot fourth about you overall in another that to away think sales to do price order from

Mike McGaugh

take Marshall. is Hi, Mike I'll that one. This McGaugh.

We being are selective with the we more business pursue.

very price, in business calls. we and in we've margin. about manage backlog, that very you're still pieces more and prior allows Dave seeing being mentioned, as our selective be see pursue, which We that us a are We we gross in to disciplined talked how as healthy on of

Dave Flitman

point, both to for And value-added Yes. it's Mike's price add. fourth competitiveness we're to continue product the when we quarter very of called margins and on be more improve commodity of or gain working as well And our move based gross us see obviously, results to in obviously that a much Mike's year. that the in on. high business of more always we would commodities selective are service our helps you business positive I obviously, price mean intensity relationship. obviously take lumber I just category. pretty want the continue products, level to then, can And varies on driven. here very in and depending that do what operating to And you and system the of to into And full levels. we hard service-driven the Certainly, to the the the provide. of level service the out,

Marshall Mentz

all, very That's again. Great. helpful and congrats

Operator

you. Thank

Please line comes with question Jay Securities. McCanless next Your Wedbush your of with from the proceed question.

Jay McCanless

morning. Hey, good Thanks for taking questions. my

to maybe number. roughly ballpark? the in looks XX% like are Are guiding those EBITDA one or margin about XX% SG&A with first The Charlotte gross you it I had, before the acquisitions, guys thinking about an

Jim Major

just you Are talking specifically? QX to

Jay McCanless

the sorry, yeah, QX. QX, Yeah,

Jim Major

last higher our so it's most margins bleeding lingering that than just be regards from QX, gross in obviously think we still a year QX us, gross And XX.X%. little heard expect bit lowest we quarters because both on you said, generally expect both in low, I the in as margin you're SG&A of which of higher to is QX seasonally benefits was that's in quarter, speaking. from low to percentage the sense counts. probably as historically low little higher because QX, the we a little than

usually SG&A you sales, the percent a comes And as down the of considerably parts obviously, and QX, so, get of in highest as stronger is season. into the

Jay McCanless

gross XXXX, business, sales business the going your on for that into your going that's be to have I question second a part multi-family business? profile The does single-family margin of look bigger versus how the

Jim Major

there to average are volumes job in margin that close capture, and larger we Gross particular the multi-family our millwork or average. multi-family to - We on the products though jobs even product any mix particular is some towards and margins out in a normal. be gross any higher little such, larger as still And, about with business. we're company that more fairly selling value-added do

Jay McCanless

the multi-family, in And guys one, is that pickup for request of last the we customer staying interest move trending do as bigger terms through last just year? with now how expect you versus multi-family And in year? or then quotes, a

Mike McGaugh

councils have year. of Mike. across healthy same practices company. get and Yeah, instituted value-added Leveraging with the well the and as We're we across been something as optimistic period last grid, last made to of We've in multi-family that's the results The involvement both focus the we're best practice this our seeing multi-family some We've and our multi-families about new products best also company it. is more value-add. the for year key in multi-family. improved we've whole you're versus seeing doing multi-family our growth drive backlog

Jim Major

Yeah, that there lag, a a starts single you I'd between and if complex. longer projects larger much when and is to multi-family turns Obviously, revenue the family much will, more just start. also follow, into are relative

starts those And so, XXXX. as that in and We're starts hit of the to benefits we and us XXXX, in late sort early saw XXXX, XXXX, XXXX here starts now recovered decline, back-half XXXX. of heading into at seeing some multi-family decline, in the

backlog the said, we remains as very So good.

Jay McCanless

great. Okay, you. Thank

Operator

you. Thank

of Mike Please question next line proceed from RBC Markets. Capital comes your Dahl with Our the question. with

Michael Glaser Dahl

in morning. your in the a overall for my question question, results thoughts, nice of a Thanks first taking period. earlier. I had follow-up comments and terms questions about Good market thinking in a volatile

builders' mid-to that's high side, builder what Just trends clearly the on have aggregate. you're in digits to single seeing following order been follow-up the on

different part difference one you guess, you weakening. when what backlogs this just trying are a in So impact of saying builders, then kind of is, that's it part also set? I'm wrap timing going exposed And one is that think I obviously, do to of two, you if to could different the is terms are shares. you're to I public taking into understand, or geographies, you're just kind

You've initiatives around discussed the Ready-Frame. truss with of some and

us volume sake kind help market were expect starts about this can So argument, in a you for of share? year, for the to of flattish think would standpoint, gain how we be saying you if from much

Dave Flitman

things Sure, I - to just Mike. is a that. I would just say this couple would Dave.

they've their we're buyer. in quarter of that far the comments a as spending growth fourth builders, from seeing is a year the entry-level from all so First public And this adjusting the time the of you've in offerings. lot been lot and lot heard of

I things strength structural Ready-Frame spoken in specific your our here think trusses really those we components, share And of about. point, areas obviously, like as plays to homes and objective and business. to take to market of our it as around is key shrink, footprints our

not that, about they smaller On millwork. our any doors, think see windows the to now. take side going of balance, have flip we're that hurts that. ability grow of In in and less right to environment really all footprint tend on share But concerned I on the we and

Mike McGaugh

seeing our If overall is comment, also but of I on the XX days Dave's is the what publics, the big to ago, some customs, improved base, some of an of we're sentiment can clearly. it's pile customer sentiment which mid-sized versus

so, gives think going us sentiment that And I confidence forward.

Michael Glaser Dahl

and out in terms rolled kind through selling couple. Okay, of is that's you're versus, if as as is real mix correct me smaller the facility some so a but adopters, uptake out there curious Ready-Frame, the you've and some difference in and of you're I'm And curious rolling a customers from you've is difference around color. just next rolled I'm of if of that I Ready-Frame, you're My versus I'm question of earlier towards in what really - progressing the out as trusses helpful Ready-Frame? What about about whether second believe the kind were you've type automated customer seen the of first truss wrong, builders. thinking to

Mike McGaugh

Hey, question. good it's a

we're adoption the from the Ready-Frame, panels balance getting aggressive bit are modular pressure trusses full approach. and a a of the good are builders, who modular of Now, larger more between approach. stick-built, is also on some then seeing what and the

so, pilots a with We've we've of discussed got scale larger And is finding the to and we're trusses. some builders production what on and way underway. seeing a - number of Ready-Frame

of And and homes mentioned, lower seeing very lines a Lake the out. and some pipeline facilities, automated capacity on before we're time. entry-level Ready-Frame at lines, going to But a value-adder even our be and lower with that we We're our these automated from cities strong our townhomes that won't Salt about City, Austin real in we approach. cost planning this we disclose automation then going forward. company subscription got labor Dave to our to of it additional That As to we've talked truss it's also and panels, facilities. up roll door think well

Jim Major

those effectively our and better obviously, of then, revenue tons growth together, of the structural the put seeing conjunction. Mike, floor more is And in in with a one over all basically did we overall building through total, wall the category, hopefully in as two drive the system, is house. pieces two the And in these the all truss that's of the of uptake those you're other grew highlighted which initiatives. last so work different at truss Ready-Frame And million XX% customers clarification, point we can there year roof both, plant automation the whereas system, $XXX the and of we the components when system so across the plant, you of what pieces topped obviously,

Michael Glaser Dahl

Right, you. Thank okay.

Operator

Thank you.

from next with Please proceed comes your Susan Credit question Our Maklari of question. line Suisse. the with

Susan Maklari

Thank morning. you. Good

Dave Flitman

morning. Good

Jim Major

Good morning, Susan.

Susan Maklari

some it a is pull of other talked with does forward you My you the how and XS give LEAN around, perhaps these about just be what is first Can as Waste, else about you bit? we making thinking space you're can terms a the to color do opportunity little, and you there giving some X environment of some more techniques? in And efficiencies. or shift us just of more these should more demand on progress question

Dave Flitman

I months Dave, joined the the one been when six building about it's Susan. that productivity. company the I ago of say things was just impressed organization around would the culture that Yes, had me

And techniques. around innings here. and XX% that they and productivity. feel of And accelerate. those as a lot through intend impact some the think heard to that about the in ramping the the that organization of comments, great to about And early said, momentum continuing our to growth We're of that way the would fuel of drive we're companies I we through growth as continues Mike very are we in out a that. of reinvestment build and growth lot culture momentum the terms of rolling from time. I of tools drive. expect over feel you I in the internal good But productivity up

Susan Maklari

is, making changed, seen And perhaps people where you that things things, change about change, seeing thinking in As has think early XXXX? my the demand accelerate you perhaps the are then Okay. out and of question any environment getting have anything signs of a we about are M&A maybe environment? next could as

Dave Flitman

seen in I Dave don't this I think think the the change don't - we've we've in any tone terms of again. seen major any is market.

about say, last the capability, XX and me and you been work heard these outreach, XX of with very of internal over that months targets. feel As that's done do good the build I pipeline relationships to our to some to our build the course potential

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Susan Maklari

you. Thank Okay.

Operator

Thank you.

Our with of from line the your Grooms Please with comes Stephens Inc. question. proceed Trey next question

Trey Grooms

good Hey, morning.

Dave Flitman

morning. Good

Jim Major

Trey. morning, Good

Trey Grooms

about I So, M&A. ask to really guess, going

cadence definitely you're could deals. that maybe could - And ramping you up. said Dave, Jim, expect a that you think that or I think, I of you more consistent

how to this kind deals cycle of or sounds where with housing with this do the think more –going weighing after you think point? But timing of acquisitions, you doing you're we it buybacks like do think leverage and how the in outlook, definitely, about about committed So targets acquisitions. at are we given

Jim Major

hasn't Trey. target This I changed Thanks, I'll leverage is our that. Jim, Sure. overall take mean, any.

here think a will the BMC finding the business. value do times. just the flexibility times, and about into we've strong back times But frankly, And cycle the steady beautiful time a in highlighted than and X with to put as right of very CapEx left long companies number X the so. think lot that The term And going terms about stream cash repurchases, more over to of bolt-ons, to of within cash at I priorities, the should think with got and internal to in leverage. to bolt-ons of in a We're time productivity we're a now having we the first over the And points that more comfortable just number business. one, acquisitions the of obviously we ton all thing of reinvest. times is that time, leverage generating to years the foremost leaves such join other just we prudently, about we're capabilities that with up cash average do that form a cultures have the is, flow. that we'll perfectly think the X.X some right going we right different And still bolt-ons about the we create about, larger right can obviously some which in X.X cycle. to never still frankly capital But can to Dave bolt-ons. in opportunities nice that maintain exciting to you that is and in of opportunity leave continue thing from the business allocation come

Trey Grooms

just of the been also could you're helpful. it there, the maybe M&A, of table change versus And talk be what what Okay, out valuation being seeing maybe been kind suitors two? any multiples acquisitions? sticking may then, has you've at with last or potential that sought you looking about with at what's over directionally year Also that's number with the after as

Jim Major

or be frankly. side, they the think, I over the multiples Private seen react Over contract multiples quickly time, year. don't tend last Yeah, fairly good to static. we've public obviously, bad that's on as quite multiple

so continue that generally Trey. question, be your in mid-single-digits. the part second to change of And the regard, in huge remember no trying to I'm

Trey Grooms

the at just, of year more so, was same? part as far second seeing suitors as you the decrease, see The are what last over And and definitely table, you more the or about being number folks are other active. deals the the you increase, potential for these guys do

Jim Major

outreach our changed I'm think efforts as of Yeah. to not sellers all that you proactive increasing. note, of both I landscape has sure much. the But entire

As over as targets continue further and time arise. as away took years, well to work of opportunities we those fact merger do move have first the clearly, more the again couple to the the all with as we that from different date engage management that

is pipeline believe which - a rate will to of lead hopefully that completion lead deals. So of leading to a ultimately stronger will a we to stronger conversations,

Trey Grooms

guys Is going the kind Okay. one a touched range? the of a and market far that from $XXX to your kind supply could seeing kind the Last comments. is But lot everything. I on field You what's you of from in range of think, kind in what's of what pricing? kind of from in tell Jim, upper you in best that seeing earlier give on to me. to is outlook are on range, that on prices the for settle $XXX things down And can just lumber and - as us as today? And any input broad of going you're closer with we

Jim Major

lumber certainly last predict where today. to try to We're weeks. are right long too we that's way here $XXX, But been $XXX the couple of I've around prices.

a magnitude a points. is we'd just Obviously, of of for so at recover people commodity. couple different to term, certainly in that sense order to But prices long hypothetical a continue better the some. prefer we that's medium it give the us or to provided And but and

Trey Grooms

Understood. the quarter. And you. again on Thank Well, job great talk soon. and we'll congrats

Operator

you. Thank

David comes proceed question the your line with Baird. question. from with Please next Manthey Our of

David Manthey

good My SG&A. is question morning. Hi, on

than the acquisitions you as at net significantly of is have impact think SG&A your your You XXXX? obviously reason be core XXXX, any of coming should look higher in divestiture. there that And to

Jim Major

of we couple in already said the year. I did early deals a

full-year in SG&A the $XX on to of million basis. the range that so And a $XX base is million somewhere revenues $XXX million across

high way is employment pressure there there'll The It's cost wage about side is core baseline. comment not of So Operating that, initiatives Coleman seeing majority will obviously and look And inflation. in I from some the we our millions particularly vast which then think now the is the the a pretty if our sales quarter out certainly earnings full be few out in offset productivity is called compensation. of BMC The there flip of it's a the biggest the SG&A System. savings whether And to that around the all lot are full to some have market out. that wages. guess, in release, variable going people, the we for we only managers, right XXXX's so level of of come year associates, other we a cetera, they but relative it, through and business et - fourth

living obviously overall the of based gross degree off our Our and on what managers and Many of executives profitability people are not of what sales produce the the commissions dollars. in they have terms profit in a highest business.

those in far was less and are new a such, XXXX, and commissions plan resets therefore be those incentives In for in we obviously, So All results, robust the new the XXXX little could a and it higher. incentives And XXXX variable much comp announced lower record as were year that with XXXX. and outlook lower. versus much XXXX, transpires. that as

David Manthey

Thanks, Jim. right. All Okay.

Jim Major

Sure.

Operator

Thank you.

your proceed from Our SunTrust. line comes with next question of the Hughes with Please question. Keith

Keith Hughes

you. Thank

from a distributors. highlighted see higher a capital sales program, not You've aggressive of percentage pretty we usually as spending

users. the of of about be bit two, But can one, you that three, little prioritize the all of a will kind years? talked You kind in couple next where going money

Dave Flitman

tried the we that to do guess, I Right. obviously. in investor deck

priority the Our number CapEx. is one

Keith Hughes

don't I that. to CapEx. have access

I... So

Dave Flitman

organic long the certainly over is and because medium two medium And those and number one drive right, then don't that and three two, XXX,XXX time we felt business, time. one, productivity we to into the is the Certainly and about repurchases we'll as that's guess continuing points - yes, investing over was into and the near acquisitions, significantly in Number in our where number at the the long that bolt-on overall really share as just CapEx, the mean remain the and the three CapEx undervalued Without or I worries. shares. by scale. no growth. of from market are different two acquisitions, worries, the question, shareholders No the bolt-on repurchases, the we is last do to business is the number something of I the highest strengthen price then in back price opportunities to can undervalued stepped return - and buy to evaluate think our great we future, months, term. opportunistically. for deliver And share which here like have way opportunities, term enough we

Keith Hughes

in per Couple D&A ones. The look new of coming XXXX? acquisitions Okay. what with quarter would quick particularly the in, like -

Jim Major

stable both mean total, depreciation our to And expense to flip primarily expense be right goods is related be to as In I as cost to acquisitions $XX is down expense, of million and in looking total what's well quarter this the below goods, $XX should we're to - in depreciation here. million. and of cost amortization $XX by it million me page let million. $XX pretty

Keith Hughes

And Okay. here? paid aggregate for the the you apply then, what deals was price finally, that don't

Jim Major

total, little in deals two it's the a bit Between just over $XX million.

Keith Hughes

million. $XX

Okay. Thank you very much.

Jim Major

Sure.

Operator

Thank you.

of question proceed Ramsey comes Our Research next line with with Group. Steven from the Please your question. Thompson

Brian Biros

the new been hearing morning. feedback my better good on taking it ask is prior repair fell you to Steven. repair we've for than after general seems activity that Biros growth the actually for recently demand and strong Hey, about Thank Brian like questions. This want construction. that. been and And remodel to and some remodel, is I has

of outlook better kind that repair to seeing heard the what that with are in growth many the you on and would reconcile So we've I hear and guys that just want from of remodel XXXX? show

Mike McGaugh

Mike. is this Brian, Hi,

quarter-over-quarter fourth to exposure fourth the comp believe XXXX. of in Hurricane fourth annual-over-annual We Remodel lot little see quarter to and you an going basis, at a a can tough Pro Harvey That looking a to that comp, on that's You're in continue. the of a XX% we difficult quarter is tough, On which Houston had bit headwind. a is and was a growth quarter basis. market

approach company. recently talked multi-family refreshed which targeted continue that our point. part one the as Remodel some three this our very going we're that to out we We've competitive approach refreshed Pro key Those our key we have Pro single approach of agree to at - have run going a and to on some And are advantage. is Remodel. than to your incrementally millwork, more We're Remodel our growth. a a also to presence. driving approach we're Just we've to where healthy markets of got made about I areas, build family I Pro we've announced hires, with where

the there's do Our to by reasonable believe reason outgrow every margin target market is and we'll to a so.

Brian Biros

after unexpected. acquisition prior it. M&A the shift helpful. market specific acquisitions both Got mind? one from on impact with mix And kind of in and have mix going you Do would thoughts maybe of end side, any Any be acquisitions on the due kind more in more kind expect material of to the a you

Jim Major

I the and/or to are the prone that that acquisitions of higher of mean a mix mix those value-added have contractors. we products certainly are high remodeling most

the certainly So been that's case.

too that's somebody a more over little find five was look the done, a six that which we've at the Lumber. with you bit some the average If But to traditional local the deals of will that'll customer great Charlotte last add last and LBM that Locust - to we opportunity anyway more occasion on market or can a dealer, case that relationships forward. things millwork we and sell some just continue the within and add we was think dividends pay other and trusses scale going

sales lumber mix a So percent of our as decline the over the total. of time, to certainly we want

Brian Biros

I appreciate color. it. Got the Thanks.

Operator

Thank you.

from the question. your Securities. line comes with question of next proceed Please Seaport McCall with Global Our Matt

Matthew McCall

Thank you. everybody. morning, Good

Dave Flitman

morning. Good

Matthew McCall

with talked the Can in I it EBITDA. start revenue million the you - you was about maybe $XX improvement So think, the is breakout bridge, of Slide incremental X, operational component kind and earnings an into improvement to really the move referenced savings, earlier from that think, in an SG&A line? XXXX getting at out is I what opportunity as question, we operational perspective? but some you Jim, I'm

Jim Major

on And I our of things of manufacturing the that selling sourcing improvement. team get, materials. to and the the manufacturing that's vast price sales around minimize on some did sales obviously, or costs which is productivity Yeah. done But things to labor what's team obviously margin whether cost in and did mean, great to of costs the plans, cost work benefits our and help our there different and also was the the distribution hold we majority which embedded that gross a benefits that SG&A. nature, bridge we've

out many goal goal So to we cost our I is dollars obviously main opportunity about there here year. of inflation as through productivity as overriding we XXXX think that's offset as said for the next or our millions much think And of that's earlier, initiatives. of

Mike McGaugh

our company on build pricing. And get a Jim's cost. can allows on service I the our point, about If little wedge whole more here suppliers our lot our on about and is our levels that more up cost us us down to to talk between leverage traction serve we objective Get and gives and price our a that in to cost.

focus that's excellence But system. about the I guys year we're in also with Dave operating talked stress in want overall on system the are seeing results. approach have those mentioned, results. we we've work so a improvements, about of the purchasing the waste robust productivity on doing, And now this innings for that a of to pricing the the just the now comes and and continue context operating elimination And in really you just then the early to

Matthew McCall

out of that. XXXX trying like prices Okay, impact was to XX% change our lumber, normally kind I about of Mike. I a think figure Jim, How pricing we And talked math XXXX see? looked efforts, what decremental is and, efforts. question little a purchasing verses following just next from What last that would to That about does nice if higher quarter the lumber is it what a math we Mike is the than the XX% the the target have versus that right, - we're talked around actually segue.

Jim Major

Yeah.

to as work But the look negative to sales moving quarter, or to think lumber year-over-year. we or lumber minimize hopefully, the likely pieces our are where a environment as describing around days. that in our down you it's XX% or kind be Mike prices whether little do of normal price business can impact it's incremental, right - in that tell and he's an the a commentary of bit is prices acquisitions XX%. that I Clearly disposal first around there's lumber change now, inherent teams would from a changes of also it's decremental in of lot the a lot

where better a of and into heading So the in volumes important exactly and we'll sense the get put some into as have year. I'm more here calls finer points months on we of that little sure are backlogs spring future the

Matthew McCall

know I over that? me sentiment? give a on - sentiment that And days. traffic comment you but more what just the Is Can you expand sneak XX there? a story I the late, can more What's seen Okay. you'd Is improved made Mike, you we're one improved on detail just there in? driving it were last referencing?

Mike McGaugh

Sure. Yeah.

events, back industry or October I production was custom where we And larger the there of look the conferences, industry just overall you on we in number a November, was think builders. that's your pulse were if concern community, where it as So to take I and as the was September, the as of home outlook on builders There well reflected feel companies that it's from you rate. the your board. say the that XXXX. a call. interest We other continue well the Hopefully, today concern and the that's to other our - you that optimism directionally from follow. on in for better guys will across see a

overall also it's abatement, and the rate think the production bit markets. home I custom little more just in but a of interest So optimism then

Dave Flitman

population would the demographics, just any fundamentals says nothing that add have in the we of terms that housing. growth, I And need for see of changed

of point, and that rates, work happened think is muting I that to all size its of interest point in over. those Mike's the to QX, some making the we terms some of in the going and the take some going way I to about scale, adjustments that are are talk pause builders of fundamentals think As through at

Matthew McCall

Thank Okay. you all.

Dave Flitman

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.

Our line comes from Kurt the your of proceed Yinger Davidson. question question. with Please with final D.A.

Kurt Yinger

the you and everyone, and quarter. morning, on congrats good thank Yeah,

Jim Major

Kurt. Thanks,

Kurt Yinger

maybe moved reasonable normalized you of a could us maybe more of your through expectations? like kind Jim, year, on And you seems the of the commentary, other give to sense first versus as just or had percentage moving margin, of quarter of your there bucket margin way Is any benefits year-over-year in initiatives? a to mentioned good gross band a gross that XXXX you declining a should lumber still see trend commodities of it based revenue the pretty between expansion. as productivity of the

Jim Major

is lowest things category mid-to categories? And Sure, of Kurt. to lumber of about the as lumber gross guess as we've I our pointed one I mean, teens. commodity I the number each I and margins what are before, in think, high and is keep gross goods our historically, mean, margin there's margins. gross the you normal out in the probably two usually those are sheet category within more certainly four mind product four our think

more certainly the margins So And category. last level that months. normalized couple coming to over what gross of come a quarters, over towards extraordinarily seen we've start back that's within the will high think we

one margins each the are So doing what within category. that's is point

when And lumber so elevated. thing second will a XXXX, offsetting sales of if flip because mind to total our our the our percent mix. come prices prices to of gross XX% you what's In around margin, around is in sales, there's you was were mix. becomes keep some that that it's benefit kind overall smaller then down, if The overall of

least it that lumber impacted. our that expectation at mix. better our gross You continue percentage for if XXXX. that gross when smaller equal, could part is was else verses are negatively is lower, could margin And certainly the isn't being the prices see overall our All to smaller of to as all part down XXXX lumber XX%. And the margin it's way by means fourth therefore a and quarter, and fall mix, the of that

Kurt Yinger

extraordinarily sort mean, to dynamic structural Okay. similar in Thanks, Jim. to been of margins high And out would you same expect commodities? that have play components? gross those I the

Jim Major

in talked said they're earlier to part are obviously, say margins things, obviously the I that's business. elevated. as high those other those as of extraordinarily we've automation, of business a improve equation. we certainly other are a and about, much whereas invest And the They we opportunities as within do we more wouldn't as service it's

be look certainly to the some I in to think long I expand. that So guess, headwind and term, are but could comparative those would the category margins we over continue medium

Kurt Yinger

of lot commodity are level feel I'm inventories kind own channel. distribution a where lastly, wondering, you comfortable or of that And Okay. with if with through inventories volume that your how have. have you your described aligns the lean producers of

Jim Major

continue running there see bottom I inventories waiting today. out. latter running were relatively where cost mean, we as may our sit XXXX, so part and been we And here the to we where in have to do just of lean

little some ordinary. we into but obviously seasonal further the we'll the spring, have out build So of a as nothing get

Kurt Yinger

Thanks very much. right. All

Operator

you. Thank

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BMC Stock (BMCH) 2 Mar 192018 Q4 Earnings call transcript