SC - Earnings call transcript Q4 2019 | Santander Consumer USA Holdings Inc.

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Santander Consumer USA Holdings Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all parties have been placed in listen-only mode.

Following today’s presentation, the floor will be opened for your questions. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Evan Black, Head of Investor Relations. Evan, the floor is yours.

Evan Black

Nicole. Thanks thank the and everyone. for you morning call joining Good

Aditya, we Chief Chief On today Mahesh Financial President Karam, the call Fahmi have and and Executive Officer. Officer,

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With that, over to Mahesh. CEO, our I'll turn it

Mahesh Aditya

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Fahmi Karam

Mahesh and everyone. good Thanks morning

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Q&A, over begin call I back turn to Mahesh? we like would Mahesh. to the Before

Mahesh Aditya

XXXX Thank you, Santander was strong year a Fahmi. In for very summary Consumer.

levels, performance While uncertainty, healthy. the at been remains continue see and historic watch is historic consumer remain early job there's indicators we anything some all vigilantly not The to alarming. and recent Unemployment lows strong. to market U.S. continues of auto do our market and creation

XXXX. remain generally headed we positive into So

in I $X.X donations operate USA we made and Texas, we the Consumer We significant than million awarded with more which communities Mesa, Foundation, in Dallas, want XXXX Santander across sponsorships. to in note grants, Denver, strides also the Colorado. Arizona and

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detail XXXX a few closing In points our efforts. to

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and Second, while we expenses on remain volume increasing disciplined balances.

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Operator

you. Thank

will open for Our Credit [Operator question first from Moshe questions. call Orenbuch comes Suisse. the We now up Instructions] with

Moshe Orenbuch

Great.

kind FCA? they're that is your level Like what's kind higher rebuild of are of with do been that's Chrysler, So with the more bit overall that you out flush competition the likely a to in about decision? there that that made maybe leasing. in are to given could Hoping going kind of kind plan, things of to on you respect that a that and help who comments you you to competition? seeing stepping but going -- and discuss And little how of discussions taking little volumes are

Fahmi Karam

the Yes, thanks question. for

So the leases did drop year-over-year.

FCA of a dollar slightly standpoint, $X.X the we levels mentioned, from did originate quarter. it we from Part of leases lower for generally. billion is, As

on competition mentioned lease. You

lease only the on know competition think of leases. FCA national other most relatively people small. I a is that who couple players There's do

of some share. into We also have competition one in really stepped credit lease. in other, take pressure can the or have from But country seen in lease, certain regions movements, significantly aggressive that that price way limited any unions the given

programs come we program to January and I competition And for do come partner, consistent largest think seen FCA year. I've we've far. in put maintain month-to-month, the more we vehicle-to-vehicle, and reminder, have a of still some still leases it, as out we go As the back have are share start that. does a of The by mentioned the volume we we in our but -- to and

Moshe Orenbuch

Okay. a as And question. just follow-up

tender As talk the it you the think and you the to relates tender assuming cycle? offer Can about the executed. company CECL post how and capital position into that's about going and the next of

Fahmi Karam

leaving share year planning every dry for like capital we as just we plan have cycle did the whether the the make sure much portfolio for seeing But repurchases, this do come best year. going in acquisition capital, plays have as of then car use up business The losses early the powder determine absorb like prices of other plan. as we'll that we obviously environment. look itself cycle, going in the used capital tender excess after that Yes. any benefit macro to some or as it's and of its that phase through may into goes we the business. we CECL have execution kind well is dividends the the quarter. submit or to factors want forward, in we if can in we'll that, impact for reinvest And We'll the do next before through well XXXX evaluate the how the stages strategic this out We'll our how planning how at

shareholders. authorization. announced did plan, strategic still was So corner. could CECL the around capital CECL excess do we like execute and a and for We as the change we when billion repurchase knew felt plan that share $X.X return to absorbing things still We reminder, to still portfolio our acquisitions have the

as over weeks coming we'll XXXX for next for we So our plan next months submit assess to have going the couple it of and forward, approval. capital the

Moshe Orenbuch

thank Okay, you.

Operator

from John on And next Jefferies. our Hecht for move question with we'll

John Hecht

taking Hi, thanks the for questions.

margins. Just kind of focused on

side, we've rates that yield the versus be price average down I'm come year-over-year. the of on competition? how seen much So tied to would mix wondering versus

Fahmi Karam

bit little quality, a competition, performance. a and a the -- It's it's that all a In we of better see It's as of from to segments John, of be competitive. really certain little risk A little mix. little a above. our feel bit bit us credit you bit lower of can Yes. trying more

cost general, So our when of told if which is percentage is in we Lease yield a I as at is total of into lease continuation story of It NIM our you year-over-year. last look at quarter, outstanding lower assets. a prime net it has the and plays our interest Part the also in look therefore, growing balance. product, debt. the income, non-prime a of

debt year, we Our has it environment in lag the portfolio. basis XX was down better playing it's cost a points have than But throughout believe ticked the in rate I of through QX. interest the

benefit still it and more we rates, haven't to of the seen of in the see we XXXX. So expect full in drop interest

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that segment, a that great not although partnership volume. to the our for most XXX% coming has continues increase, take prime So as been FCA SBNA is prime they do of in penetration of us,

it spill does what balance we the on over Some retain of into sheet.

that it expect down come lease of trend to in And I've in has part bit that on little other is and The gain XXXX. over mentioned XXXX course really the sale. of we remarks is, a the continue our prepared

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John Hecht

income Thinking XXXX. commentary your guidance about your for interest net on for

there of and course it -- opportunities I in on moving of are Your of the be I is year? the forecast. of capital. cost pricing margin given parts there looking a our like band any it interest feels we settling part commentary it over think the of mean, is the in mean, should kind at net the now? Or should migration

Fahmi Karam

Yes.

slight you as down. I a think I balance see think portfolio bigger becoming that the a of leases as you'll bigger, see grows, part tick

I think to what we've outlook. guided in full-year our that's

line single top being up digits. So just low

you about at quarter the fourth ratio is thing to other think TCF the look the when just portfolio. The for

portfolio that of XXX and near-prime is average kind So about prime, X% yields. FICO has weighted is around

a $X billion portfolio that you'll at those little the top contract bit. over yields, lower just as see been portfolio a line has So

John Hecht

Thanks much. that. appreciate really Okay, very

Operator

next comes question with KBW. Your from Steven Kwok

Steven Kwok

taking for questions. thanks Great, my

Just one And Santander offer participate is can well? the around that the also, the you're buyback Is first already ability to there price now. that stock buying given in back? right the where tender Banco raise range as the

Fahmi Karam

Yes.

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a So shareholders, deploy we positive think positive a the to for that the for it's company it's capital. transaction excess and step

Steven Kwok

CECL flat a $XX thanks. relative just to like million impact then better quarter the are the in to first as And of -- guidance? much day-two Right, follow-up you that that how incorporating around

Fahmi Karam

Yes.

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XX%. were of XXXX at So the over in over starting point where we in QX of just a just little X% compare to that QX

will QX did experience last it from year to year. this like QX drop not that So we

Steven Kwok

for Great, thanks questions. my taking

Operator

from next take And Cyganovich we'll our Arren Citi. question with

Arren Cyganovich

Thanks.

pace starts that than the around at going XX% like looking should Just a over to your it's and I be that come TDR? of still at expect know you kind TDR next the you you down this think XX%. versus of to year. last your allowance do that's the What's commentary, CECL be less guess, kind couple looking of normal said out to of of I benefit, years? When

Fahmi Karam

Yes.

in it discussed stopped else assuming throughout drop We XXXX. we've expect on think to an exactly flat trend be the will of anything to giving estimate And quarter-over-quarter flatten in out. in do at environment stable the the and TDR XXXX, I start kind stable. out, some think point then when we stays it We've past. should it

Mahesh Aditya

billion to sort is of TDR. $X accounts TDR then mean up is down year. are is a payoffs, new into There the ads, have TDR, One and which three we Yes, third probably I go some and which charge-offs. going elements to through and other this inventory, the the going is is

as expect TDR the TDR. be says, new difficult Fahmi unknown be now and XXXX. will is decline right and this exact impact a it there, little there to into third, the But and third, third entry we overall balances some a quantify So because a big to in about charge-offs it's obviously, the the year in payoffs,

Arren Cyganovich

talk that And you bit bit you make a than Is the predecessors? about that just of company the there parent a looks strategy? maybe to then, Do little It's way intend to any to XX%. your a company running about intend could odd little changes is the reins any Mahesh, alone, differently taking of run under like buyback after over CEO. any you

Mahesh Aditya

pretty running both well company of here I've member stuff as Scott bunch in a the the Yes, with as involved as past years. two Board closely, over of the been for a helping

I think keep Chrysler as in to this area. -- focus includes is being being to that importance continue in subprime of as prime for both operate we the And we area a relationship the where our well of is to space. lease full-service best, provider year as be Chrysler And this what near-prime the course, the and to do in space priority primary which -- the our the year. big maintain in going

car have going economic So cetera. the of which close into XXXX, to a that prices, indicators, will about be our obviously, keeping other we fundamental some like be used careful strategy eye et on

was kind sort some are Fahmi we've of of in to values terms where of as saying, sweet hit going think terms end spot of, residual our in of I these up. predicting

think have which, primary and strategy. continues key a be importance. that the area and very question the important no is the fundamentally, out. this area sort also Fahmi got for serviced is highlighted to other, obviously making control answer to and kind figured running of -- focus we've But of in Chrysler sure that profitability, focus year. change of program others I will is the And under it lease there us we our So for as of be bank your

Arren Cyganovich

Thank you.

Operator

And we'll move Rowan on to Janney. from John

John Rowan

Good morning guys.

and quick question, if you out between quarter? deficiency And that that a took Just a the noticed auction the the was? in in was there so, of that And chart the timing if the I auction-plus. what deck was wondering I sale difference shows

Fahmi Karam

question directly, QX we a on formatted to we auction end did But deficiency we as in have Yes XXXX. line not only. the didn't that leasing your item up in answer presentation, sale

comparison. that you're quarter-over-quarter seeing So is that fair a benefit

John Rowan

vehicle just function higher And of the Is in the early expense the a weakness that Okay. in quarter the remarketing a quarter. on reported just you follow-up, leased trends?

Fahmi Karam

I the more gain what on flows point of, used would it noticed sale the see on more that gain than around through as come. in that's mentioned it sales softness was where the in you'll expense, it and The lease market. lease lease I we car what in to recovery

John Rowan

you. Thank

Operator

comes question Jeff next Morgan our Stanley. with And from Adelson

Jeff Adelson

there's you we I'm just Good running seems guess, asked. the the that stabilized, dig in reserve insight could once about closer I XX% just TDR provisions still -- it the XXXX, your any wanted going that a quantifying questions to range. of as And if that that the into to stabilized? already ratio better. extent through thinking to impact. wondering my Most morning I the XX% to reserve bit I of of into on should NCO X%, TDR like day-two give day-two just guys. been looking be have kind little But it's impact? increase is the the forward ratio guess, more need But guide thinking obviously, reserving

Fahmi Karam

year for do for the we to be didn't guidance around I impact how is give to provision enough into, give Yes, numbers. transparency But the to enough data attempted it's going specifically we'll people expense. think points get

impact It's numbers in two the going drop. TDR mentioned ways. One, I to really the

XX% benefit something get to to XX%. we used going to from going is to And so the closer X% XX% to now

so happened you then the experienced it in difference XXXX. TDR you that if XXXX, we assume can benefit drop versus the in the again calculate that in XXXX, And just XXXX, in take

don't growth. we guidance had give is growth We the if but that XX% component XXXX off. and about coming years, top of originations, versus you think X% that other as around well. over specifically balanced in on two XXXX around the XXXX We're in last growth we have experienced increase The we've then originations in

But that hard it's to think to sustain balance that were competitive flattish going just unless the up. we to to Given the something assuming and take growth we're we originations the intensity changes if in be mentioned, in the that XXXX, competition slightly experienced you environment. that able

XX% ratio assume XX% balance that take versus had growth we a can ratio and a coverage You in coverage XXXX. that

you of together, And you so, impact. kind get those day-two add if two the

Jeff Adelson

of heard the just to XXXX I any That's might car it. trends? I kind in update able Got if to helpful. used just And quick be was don't you on I on XXXX the think for a for commentary follow-up. prices. outlook relative an then us wondering give you're what looking

Mahesh Aditya

Yes.

our a bit of the prices. and used on recovery did on what what's rate constitutes underlying car So car an we on used trend analysis little prices,

CUVs us the on. couple is sedans a between coming into these to coming for value. the shift CUVs. going But the sedans higher car used a a we're and That's beginning sedans mix recovery SUVs, volume. there's and So of -- positive sedans are One SUVs into sort are holding market more shrinking notice and things is of because rate

moving good So us a a segment giving more higher us because that trade for recovery that's is we're trade rates. towards

are in cars, our more going is prime that and as exposure -- into thing and charge-off. financing bit shift vehicles more age mix cars buying a towards we've The recovery newer higher are rates and new of as on got of that we new second of because they're pardon support because far therefore vehicles, a concerned. of terms me, with going shifting more the get And we're

as a that support pretty So considered this and recovery to to prices are concerned. confident as of goes I'm and degree I'm recovery we're into our going -- pretty our of what continue of car far it. being all see the used rates, reasonable and sort constitution XXXX, of rates

Jeff Adelson

Thank you.

Operator

Kevin from Piper question next Sandler. Barker comes with Our

Kevin Barker

hoping the a Yes, post-CECL view to how in CETX XXX on on basis mean, could decline you target of I basis, a fully you CETX discuss your phased-in -- just CETX have points I world. the you're going was nearly in ratio base ratio.

that regarding for if regulatory you to had would be rating you reset? any the conversations bar agencies And potential targets CETX? then with agencies So and expect

Fahmi Karam

it's Kevin, a question. Yes, good

we industry, normal have new really something you of CECL used through to as factor general, year trying the going and ourselves, and in to I CECL. life the is it's It's think consider figure the implement start with just out progress to another getting forward. to how

I the the capacity loss-absorbing received for but The we CECL it same. think haven't really impact, Theoretically, could company's that is guidance we reduce under yet. stress

the just from other We’re to line line item. item moving one

the However, doing we're still of capital the early process our cycle. of in part stress our testing planning and

couple we or before, we'll changing that our keeping As whether over capital next combination same. assess mentioned them with targets the be I plan, of and the are our strategic weeks determining

Kevin Barker

primarily so for opportunity CECL that higher shift expense, the the Is you especially quarters, most in change the XXX impact decrease quality least towards sheet? balance moves, appetite? credit then given Okay. are FICO distinct about any provision And that of makes score. your loans your competitive better of most impact a recent at just recent, around the credit because you the move seeing to Or the on in given the of there

Fahmi Karam

it's related. Yes, CECL not

credit us, twofold. we our would and basis on a equation. the into quality increase For is really to assets in really continue I say doesn't economic price come lifetime CECL the

and risk-adjusted driving our margin I competitively achieve think positive by we better can at dealers. being selection the priced

it. one component that's So of

FCA. new more those with comes we our continued be rates of is and volume penetration tend higher the The way, continued can The offers to component exclusive progress in increase assets. get FICO with other and just FCA, more it our our

Kevin Barker

taking Okay, thanks questions. for my

Operator

with And a we'll take question from Caintic Stephens. Vincent

Vincent Caintic

question guys. the and parts. Hey A about usage morning thanks, capital good two

just there's more you executed, flow outstanding How's gets that think I'm of see the TCF? of every might portfolios offer $X to interesting rest tender public public do free you. you of remaining cash similar with to pipeline still $X look the the the with you And just tender good year. a great about first, just there, what anything And going float? any prevents when if So the you auto generate from that offer, lot kind the billion forward, after float wondering did of to acquiring then Thanks. separately billion

Fahmi Karam

Yes, of comment I to post-tender. really it's about kind premature think

launched We the haven't yet. tender officially

we'll how see we'll as So from of our capital as go. year the go it and far there the rest executes, actions for

part second question? Sorry, your repeat you can of your

Vincent Caintic

Sure.

to look acquisitions more potential of you, did similar with pipeline on Just just auto the is any interesting you might portfolios that what to Gateway? how

Fahmi Karam

Sure.

years. track come either think the more asset we So more we at onto are differentiated the capabilities or and them. we've that, more doing for like our able way. reaching to lot do And And able acquire we demonstrate other have servicing us. are the be people a get do convert solution for I portfolio our to a been financial just our record of servicing We institutions feel and couple portfolio to the of out looks -- over last around has have to platform

case, reserve the question standpoint, and maybe to we from we auto sure dry opportunistic when asset enough your people Going drive to other losses. about around may be come upfront our if And class will to for have portfolios back lifetime direction. execute want and our think them. it our make way as But that's whether more portfolios come powder an CECL, want those they to to

Vincent Caintic

discussion. Okay, great. price one car And on used just the follow-up quick

very as that flat to a So Just fair confirm that so assumption? been keeping Is so that has Thank would strong. XX.X% -- would expectation -- an you. that? be to fair it the just wanted be

Fahmi Karam

year, earlier across was throughout us, And board. Mahesh or across for or it's the mentioned it story you should mentioned, or -- tell that around Most it X% the this by really the vehicle outlook. people and been up types, Yes, vehicle year. whether we board it's recovery as be car rate It's will year, price were age. new Mahesh really used but saying time it channel this to down positive used X% last a the

do where today. X% at expecting not that big a forward this think moderate to again We expect We to to X% we're drop be are versus year. it going it's people Going drop. do of

expect that they or Power be J.D. down it think out forecast put to I points. a XX and NADA basis XX

down range a I is estimate. that to in X% reasonable think

Vincent Caintic

great. Thank you. Okay,

Operator

a take with from we'll Research. And Wildhack Autonomous question Rob

Rob Wildhack

Good morning guys.

you a any the Gateway bidding the to book characteristics that that deal. acquisition One competitive there on Just out there? Were process was us attractive you? particularly give or sense how for stood of as And the can

Fahmi Karam

us. attractive specific about portfolio anything that there's the made say wouldn't I Yes, it to

to I there. was an comfortable a near-prime, We originations portfolio prime the get think we level. buy could able attractive it that at with were

the I did portfolio. guess, transaction, thing, that say is of seasoning would One the the benefit I just

exit business XXXX. did towards the end the auto of they So

So it I being forward. being partner in expectations was loss on our a then bank But also for also allowed more attractive I us comprehensive them really hone us. them. a think going mentioned And solution seasoned portfolio, again, to to

itself, portfolio something the it's indirect to well. specific auto, too very nothing it's know So we

Rob Wildhack

bit prices, rate to car you opportunities but recovery you've that Got rate prices, just more, of things internally? a on the be processes recovery more of or improvement And impact you've can it. the recoveries much improved independent going used the attributed how in that And so of changed then the support there forward? car talked internally can used about are

Mahesh Aditya

I it a mean earlier. about Yes, we've little bit talked

that and I is are the strategy as bringing to obviously, the shift involves other more repossessing is age we said towards -- cars, is this, therefore, of of are prime shifting mix and our vehicles One newer the part new attributable vehicles. in of

that's modification Other that out doing how in extensions have programs terms borrowers. we got and operating the operate sort repossessing been efficiency, trying make than sure good for we our ordinary. to that are of that something it the constantly working It's nothing we're efficiently the and of right on all of the there reasons time, we've some for forbearance but minor we're in tweaks that,

than report these So constantly fact more really on other processes process significant to is efficient. working making the there we’re side, nothing the that towards

Rob Wildhack

Okay, thank you.

Mahesh Aditya

Thank you.

Operator

at comments. And Mahesh call Aditya there final questions no for will now further the are time. turn I over this to

Mahesh Aditya

Santander So in thank interest your call you for the everybody much, very and joining for Consumer.

and Thanks speaking to quarter. to Investor Relations again a you next we follow-up team for look be will questions Our available forward lot.

Operator

conference. concludes We today’s again, and today. that gentlemen your participation appreciate Once ladies

Santander Consumer USA (SC) 29 Jan 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript