Earnings call transcript Q2 2023

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Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's A10 Networks' Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results. My name is Cole and I'll be the moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions-and-answers at the end. [Operator Instructions]

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Dhrupad Trivedi

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strategy. our fuels capital allocation profitability consistent Our

of in dividends our $X.X balance. During and cash $X.X we shares, the repurchased quarter, worth cash million paid while all our growing million

three-pronged for We continue to focus on our capital strategy allocation.

business growth. future investing for in our First,

Second, returning to acquisitions. and shareholders; to continuing third, capital strategic accretive explore and

months the the to With for like a of six over quarter Brian? of detailed turn first the that, the I'd call Brian to year. review and

Brian Becker

Thank Dhrupad. you,

the but Product sequentially, revenue expectations. worth with the Services revenue, to of was this X.X% of improving quarter maintenance in quarter for year, support mentioned. decrease reflecting revenue was line It's product XX.X% and Second revenue the total of total XX.X% first million, quarter representing XX.X% $XX.X or Dhrupad million, of $XX.X revenue revenue. noting compared year-over-year, a million which revenue. includes conditions $XX.X was that increased

customers, partially by Moving currency reflects decline the due to decline our increased APJ, from a America, revenue service basis. a standpoint. to purchasing Americas, X.X% $XX.X Latin Revenue X.X% The economic from which XX.X%, constant down including concerns. sequentially. but geographic offset in America was on providers million, from up year-over-year was year-over-year North larger The primarily slowing year-over-year,

balance $XXX was of X% year-over-year. as on XX, can our sheet, our you June As revenue deferred see million, up XXXX,

basis, non-GAAP otherwise With of stated. non-GAAP on all our exception of reconciliation results call release provided in are Full revenue, the GAAP website. discussed are on on to this and our metrics unless a press

second ago our reported revenue. in reflecting was was $XX.X operating line with in Adjusted quarter. X.X% $XX.X goals. Gross quarter compared million margin XX.X%, million $XX.X the with non-GAAP in in of stated XX.X% the for quarter, million EBITDA year We income, down the

year diluted basis million or targeted million able were from the shares by for I'd per the as quarter like $XX.X EPS for income weighted $X.XX diluted approximately $X.XX to to second we million share per XX.X Non-GAAP or revenue shares Diluted quarter. XX.X X%. a EBITDA achieve even margins the up for the on year note non-GAAP net to declined share in was compared our shares that million ago quarter $XX.X in ago computing used quarter. were

year with into have million compared $X.XX net income a revenue On was million we AXX. a per quarter. diluted ago built $XX.X net quarter GAAP lower share in per earnings our significant $XX.X accomplishment the basis the net income or is income a or Maintaining $X.XX for demonstrating share the of power on diluted

year-to-date to year-over-year. $XXX.X X.X% was results. Revenue Turning down million

of target. revenue. reported compared $XX.X revenue first million million the income also our down total last of product with X.X% X.X% services was While year. reflecting non-GAAP non-GAAP representing was approximately margin in months total gross about XX.X% XX.X% XX.X% $XX.X representing revenue. in XX% with Year-to-date revenue EBITDA in Adjusted up is million six $XX.X line of revenue, was XX% We operating up

share the period. diluted net net $X.XX the for income share months or first months compared for per $XX.X million ago $XX.X was basis six or the On from a with income GAAP share. in income million per first or million or diluted million per diluted up $X.XX was net Non-GAAP diluted share year six of $XX.X per $XX.X $X.XX $X.XX

balance the sheet. to Turning

$XXX.X As at million cash, the of of to XXXX. end million June the in $XXX.X had securities XX XXXX, marketable compared cash total we equivalents,

coming In addition, with This is sequentially. DSOs of and the function decisions accounts customer sequentially quarter. slightly remained in delayed healthy has at the end buying a decreasing orders of increased receivable

and historical small very levels our despite. line receivables Our with remain in

$X.X of cash dividends in an the paid approximately in million quarter shares repurchases. price also we million totaling at average XX,XXXX $X.X During and repurchased $XX.XX

to continue carry debt. We no

you audit have from audit with growing support have a our firm to complexities. As to firm seen a national firm capabilities audit independent our we upgraded regional

our finished our XXXX cybersecurity. such grow to we areas audit as business and it was determined and our our with new fiscal new expansion into year, support align we important independent as we As geographies into cloud

and thank well. We years wish of their them support many for Armanino

has on Board to X, be XXXX mentioned, August $X.XX share shareholders a XXXX. of Dhrupad on per XX, dividend As paid record approved cash quarterly to September the of

for closing the turn to now I'll over Dhrupad call back remarks.

Thank you, Brian.

continued reflect for demand security-led results and As expected, our our improving conditions solutions.

the second the in with half demand are target year, across of segments aligned where geographies of secular continue in the and expect We sequential to each in catalysts. all improvement solutions customer durable

the Operator, open up you questions. can now for call

Operator

Thank you.

from with BTIG. the Q&A is We now begin [Operator will Powell Instructions] first Gray Our question session.

Your line is now open.

Gray Powell

for you taking Thank Great. the question.

on couple my side. a Just

have improved in So we QX. how the or to any months? potential visibility And then from decline from things into that deals there. to think the revenue return it's like there months for good QX over product helped growth back six slipped just sounds months positive that on X should It about the revenue see product better just out QX in Were to you QX? in next territory XX

that how curious trend. should be would So

Dhrupad Trivedi

I'll add question, start and good it. Gray, Brian no, can to Yeah, and

spending about So things North resumption. we into see had market QX we put in that right? American to things I in environment QX I are in internal we had moved improving with had think did seeing combined obviously, materially potentially visibility in QX not talked place. think challenging and QX improving some confidence We unusually from

as elsewhere. are coming part expect performance would to QX North we improving what of we is QX relative year to as continue back from and the we of than America So And to that normalizing to the deferrals your revenue a I QX. of say, the market see side look from forward the we seeing the markets on like product half side rather majority into QX, question, second

borders, across conditions moving to So we that of place of that adjusted programs put have resume things not that. commercial that just inherently we expect improving and kind reflective but market do to be are in now and

Gray Powell

Understood.

my then on follow-up be Okay. side. Great. And cost the guess would I question

has So, the demand impressive on it is visibility year-to-date controls been seems OpEx and on improving. like

the that's and marketing marketing and the a sales the top lag side about case or be recovery think side? if in would growth? in something And So how reinvesting or business line top investing recovery that on particularly lead on should would line that like sales we growth, Thanks. in is the

Dhrupad Trivedi

good question. Yeah,

So marketing think, is, probably revenue like is the sales rebates pretty components two right? things and one that, commissions right? mechanical and would where with which way component Flex obviously separate more So of levels, is I component. a of So I and that, that's there's spend,

So proportionally cost variable higher. as will and be higher, sales just of revenues commissioned

and sales Our themes forth. commercial and Flex to generally that beyond or events to and pretty investment outlook marketing funnel. relates so our close it marketing as in around initiatives

our type. qualified outside are we So our to at outlook, negative that and commissions to which us to and pipeline, sales of in marketing look relevant us generally regions, or reflects trends spend

would increase I when we we in in where sales each add when an we by in be sales followed we think limited would headcount, before you occur opportunities, may other much see six them rev. months up it would they spending see because see think the generally ramp you see revenue I adding not to closer

Gray Powell

Understood.

Thank much. very very you helpful. That’s Okay.

Dhrupad Trivedi

you. Thank

Operator

Gray. you, Thank

question Our next Hamed Financial. BWS Khorsand is from from

Your line is now open.

Hamed Khorsand

a these have hoping you you're go to as infrastructure more able purchases? understanding you customers far could the was would delays. these provide as them bit I be what Hi. to a be these to decisions they as doing If bit there? What on deeper going already that delaying little encountering purchasing what's allows comfortable more just are little

Dhrupad Trivedi

Yes. Good question, Hamed.

more XX% be the first what So year where not to in that annual in new budget maintenance Americas business maybe planned – would in we normalized The a telco cable the nature right? they customer expansion reflects planned have the around and The our much large I are a Americas, typically revenue. in investments they large for is the typically a is generate who the projects cycles, company, differentiate, that see already. could or new of Americas, So were Americas. is year XX% the the not CapEx it relates CapEx, of projects XX% capacity sources which for and funding to then XX%

often of later in half out and but because cancel it's will of being nature or as this So was it will, nine today's in doing? where revenue of is six places The in the of now cost you we security. themselves to headwind. Those year they including not we type today, went pushed security will projects a modernization. of they are do today's capital the companies what significant restructuring where rescaling, or increasingly see not cost adjustments to as if these of project months related of to more and continue are critical see critical are through seeing project right many What generally to in and a products half it they QX more

think they maybe are line I spend in push have of the And is products customers seeing of in planned are terms their where revenue, something generating in where between decision-making, out June. we our two to in

July, it's deferred So our that's are saying to canceled. we be because going generating all maybe they and not to for till again it's Now right? but it's customers, going hold again revenue they're off review the CapEx

gives don't Hamed. So you that on if know I color more

Hamed Khorsand

needs how trend you out maybe design helpful. seeing security That's of that and And any And you is customers those? their are or design in based your you reevaluate going? upon

Dhrupad Trivedi

spending categories and category security same that not spending and one-off the operations than risks ties right? generally, as decisions security that. like business Because think is back enterprise I the IT spending also category into things

So, just much it's kind of risk as as about IT. upgrading management It's not a anything.

I say their press volume would more sensitivity So, certainly and to about as environment you see certainly make things attacks the themselves this hearing increased of the to awareness doing secure. we keep and in complexity

security So, that us. trend is for including probably most a tailwind for companies

what There's about don't effort larger of using churn we that and lot news but see demand a -- I in that increasing a own base companies right? and types is being in market concerns they churn certainly spend right generally and see the is products, a see is. of their don't lot because in context, lot of reflecting in they there the into of impact attacked these think organizations we their terms time our the customer of So, integration what

Hamed Khorsand

you. Thank Okay.

Operator

Hamed. you, Thank

Our question is Soderstrom next Sidoti. Anja with from

Your line is now open.

Anja Soderstrom

taking for my Hi, thank you questions.

do themselves. their for think you said you in services through the congratulations been curious for So, digital out you progress good and you the quarter. see for and on need what have accelerated And in going of them? transformation more terms of customers that restructuring building their just have from might them of a I'm for your lot terms that

Dhrupad Trivedi

good Yes, question Yes. Anja.

managing us what concerned is So, and that about thoughtful efficiently more meant has I leveraging their would being more hear generally about are from secure or better. what and they They are them say longer than that more existing we effectively. more infrastructure and before more for risk

really they required around move them think big or and forth. to projects different ways are I IT more so consuming in cautious to originally where thoughtful of is that

So, think decisions economic-driven of balanced they So, say different our and their sudden cloud along view I networks place, I differently, with customers use more right? to everything change a of are plan versus would more said in are I that think a put making there who many than on-prem is technology-driven.

Anja Soderstrom

some Okay. the competitors. anything year you've the environment? been And displacing to there past Thank talking out call been in you. in Have about UK competitive

Dhrupad Trivedi

in any the No, have the significant I seen last change in don't think three, we six months, competitive environment. certainly

and -- I and would no terms those change demand of things. in customers and all of is on think but we market compete the how win I force the why stronger, we say real

Anja Soderstrom

That Okay. was Thank for you. me. all

Operator

Thank you, Anja.

next Gabelli question Hendi with Susanto from Our Funds. is

open. line is now Your

Hendi Susanto

Good evening Brian. and Dhrupad

Dhrupad Trivedi

Hi, Hendi.

Hendi Susanto

on America, I if delays purchase different? inquire like maybe let's insight I that I'm see see may wondering business let's specifically of may we certain if And then how Dhrupad, trends your how of or think North similar, outside purchase outside lagging like say meaning America, orders later? those

Dhrupad Trivedi

Yeah, good question.

factors, manage that a is a have reduction right, demand, of is their So to North think, in what to therefore, Hendi, try about on unique which size et concern cetera. new combination seeing in in companies therefore, and we is restructuring inflation, I movements themselves, interest the response America

that scale So combined elsewhere. all certainly issues the is those true of not

you yes global where and concerned to and of about being America on big Europe So to degree restructuring. of people well they the the Asia, as outside escalating look worried unmanageable cost do North but when not having input side cost about outlook are inflation at is as their are capital

new not the more and degree more signatures questions So capacity that. it's couple we that need yeah, plan asked of made in a all those themselves we features. in going to and And, through see companies in telcos couple Europe. they quarter layoffs decisions were saw but where the to add are of right a first in of sense or think purchasing add there's outside to certainly the restructuring the we that I massive But big of security saw examples US they more of when environment of normalized

unique the forth. that environment of yeah and global though is even is think American there I combination North factors So in so pessimism

it. of element So that's probably one

technology the of up using were of replacement focused right? case infrastructure that drastic in would probably lot or on more the is their upgrading technologies, wholesale is I less outside that focused North regions that of America shift better while on already say and element second The So not down. a

the think help And do that is we so, to to the they best we -- need can them path that I things therefore, them. for do by degree see the upgrading

that to they're going we see So concern not I think dramatic as see that a something later.

in see combination I we beyond anything going to did America. telcos in North factors through think But You seeing don't right we big some that of couple the are similar a of see of that restructuring. European

Hendi Susanto

And then development road map Dhrupad, year? any this update product product on and for

Dhrupad Trivedi

Yeah.

so -- features and the around think before, the are hybrid So around I discussed have side capabilities and on enabling infrastructure we more what cybersecurity and our supporting heavily environment. consistently operating more investments more

you see move if So methodology. agile a -- we to continued to and have more

our So continuous box releases months. are six sort more of every versus big one

map frame. So we yes, our last operating But security more time on road new supporting and and released either side R&D another platform driving and QX hardware this probably software we QX have a more portfolio a one December environments. hybrid or predominantly

Hendi Susanto

should how And of anticipate us you question OpEx the then Brian. mix. run tax terms Brian the rate can additionally, the business a insight we I for remainder some maybe the OpEx if at rate look like QX for give in a of is And good year?

I year? tax is rate higher think last the like somewhat than closer to XX%

Brian Becker

Yes. is No Thanks to expectations. on get currently what I course comp. variable our OpEx we're lean as both. mean questions your great for question achieve, about we as Hendi. on is not

earlier as lot So OpEx up yes, and commissions. my expect then pay to could more of accordingly. you continue think this and to progress Dhrupad monitor sales go mentioned plan a we is But I flex our to things our

what rate that's quarters the basically expect. the what seeing is run is Currently the So could probably about last is you variable. two you're

OpEx them or growth achieve continue targets we'll to we and up run accordingly. on to our least then meet the grow And as at year for see to attempt rates

XX% a spot effective rate you're bit a at but tax. to saving Obviously, to align GAAP on. of we invest we of tax about different. as tax We're function little far tax I maintain it's little tax different them mean That's with strategies rate. rate EBITDA to continue profit before approximately It's As in our is non-GAAP running bit outlook. a both and that try but

Hendi Susanto

Thank Thank Brian. you, Dhrupad. you,

Dhrupad Trivedi

Hendi. Thanks,

Operator

Thank you, Hendi.

the time our reached the management now turning for over We have call now and to remarks. team closing allotted back

Dhrupad Trivedi

And today joining you. world. Thank our employees all continued Thank AXX around your you all for to thank for shareholders and you. the of us and support to

Operator

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A10 Networks (ATEN) 26 Jul 232023 Q2 Earnings call transcript