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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Installed Building Products Fiscal 2021 Fourth Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Darren Hicks, Director of Investor Relations.

Darren Hicks

Good morning, and welcome to the Installed Building Products Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we issued a press release on our financial results for the fourth quarter, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. prepared statements answers the within laws. management's may your federal call, forward-looking contain the today's remarks to and questions securities On meaning of forward-looking anticipation, future and These statements forecasts, prospects. estimates, plans expectations, include statements beliefs, about forward-looking and risks expectations and management's involve statements are These on current based uncertainties. time of not various the results Any increases materially may and made is our discussed as filings. during SEC the COVID-XX environment, section report factors, be material rights to future limitation, of supply Risk from the XX-K a this management the statements guarantee economic impact prices the of performance, conditions, factors of time timing including, the in general Form differ of company's adverse without forward-looking annual may on call in our and result and the by Factors a selling crisis, that and actual industry in updated of speaks the only hereof. forward-looking Any as statements date as any no undertakes required duty company statements except securities events or by The of to federal as laws. or update new future information forward-looking a obligation result

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Jeff Edwards

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Michael Miller

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as increased a from approximately of fourth full by prior period. margin million the point the of on XXXX, Adjusted XX quarter reduced a basis growth profit percent improvement administrative sales or supply the year million the basis fourth period. For during prior from XX $XX.X expenses year ability basis, quarter expense relative $X.XX the volume gross and a as administrative adjusted $X points. to approximately shortages prior sales and a from improvements expense from X.X% share. XX.X%, to SG&A sales points were year-over-year our was selling On strong fourth Administrative periods. profit diluted to impact gross quarter income basis percent fourth costs XX quarter year the net leverage improved The quarter GAAP year our during per in reflects

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to is Same-branch adjusted that expense of for Adjusted any EBITDA EBITDA which We to XX.X% margin and quarter the points. acquisitions basis the new net fourth expense net reducing increase EBITDA During last supply the fourth on a continue of percent approximately approximately XX.X% future we adjusted the estimates $XX.X adjustment EBITDA million. impact income, we to quarter fourth margin the Based of quarter EBITDA expense for impacted Similar amortization the approximately that our recent acquisition as of XX% the $XX.X incremental would profit, adjusted million shortages full $X.X for impacts year $XX.X for an period on we the XXXX, million, in X.X% compared quarter. recorded we acquisitions, most of is useful quarter during Adjusted amortization why for fourth last quarter believe drove the close by was to period year. these XX material year. first XXXX adjusted $XX.X estimate million by approximately compared measure $X.X gross the businesses EBITDA XXXX to profitability. same to periods. with improved in noncash This was our of XXXX expect expect change of the million revenue same of million. XXXX

rate For XX% quarter, the XXXX. December XXXX full to we the our XX% effective effective expect year tax approximately of XX, XX%, rate continue ending and was tax to an for fourth

let's detail. at and liquidity, sheet balance capital more in our look Now requirements

Our operating business model cash continues flow. to generate strong

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In million was addition, the amended There now February XXXX, Through and XXXX, drawn rate interest asset-based our increased $XXX to capacity, debt borrowing which of exposure long-term invest to and was leverage rate XXXX, ratio we XX, million ABL $XXX ratio no a equivalents million. Total of to on XX, until are on total with December increased adjusted we $XXX.X leverage lending X.Xx, XXXX, the currently had swaps, extended debt net expectation and million, $XXX XX, $XXX.X debt million. in credit liquidity interest is which our XX, and Xx. remains of our in opportunities. in maturities stated to approximately growth facility. year. and short-term matures investments limiting cash total at nothing million With debt on our than we XX-month had trailing At we year-end significant of facility, at XXXX, February use XXXX. At compared excess making $XXX.X over cash December XX, our December million below of $XXX.X less last in we net have EBITDA ABL additional cash

of strategy acquiring well-run through insulation prioritize products. proven continue and our growth We to in complementary building profitable installers

$XXX.X acquisitions million in million in During XXXX, we XXXX. invested to $XX.X compared

is as flow the be has variable first XX, Also, of continue IBP's on will as operations $X.XX and March The and return for of of XX, XXXX. a $X.XXX declared was planned that X% to paid factors today, of by March March a to per announced approved dividend. cash Board consideration XX, policy, based dividend dividend record today share, determined variable Board per to quarter cash we XXXX, dividend share variable other our also XXXX, annual and capital record XX, on part the of by on established also increase stockholders our obligations The on to expected March And with on dividend XXXX. announced We to stockholders we which our acquisitions Board. payable Directors shareholders. a our that a generated

increased existing from million and extended X, $XXX the XXXX. Board repurchase $XXX to X the program also million program has share Finally, to March year the

policy share remarks. and call Our return for Jeff With our repurchase renewed dividend program commitment reflects to that, now to shareholders. I to closing excess the back will capital turn

JeffEdwards

thanking our I'd once to our employees remarks by Michael. again for conclude hard prepared their Thanks, company. like work, to and dedication IBP commitment

of years for because the possible call over questions. open made the success Our up you. let's Operator, is

Operator

comes question Trey [Operator first Instructions] Our Stephens. from with Grooms

Noah Merkousko

Merkousko Noah actually is Trey. This for on

of So got I It to is year. that gross sequentially, the cost think continue supply a like expect to for looks bit. this get issues this supply expectation little we the a chain And you these like as margin. impact cost looks that has to year? it move lot that a to persist through out, chain start through disruptions better sequentially improved to But impact do

Michael Miller

This is get we better, for it of all that but that will be and anticipate probably would 'XX. with would through foreseeable the future it certainly would Michael. that I say slightly us

Jeff Edwards

is Well, happen. the Every just it's else every hills, over seems barely something we we Jeff. over the think this think -- time time -- to

a I lot think of that's probably common a industry. in refrain

Michael Miller

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Noah Merkousko

my your pricing strong to for raise to continue prices. way can impressive. then was that understand But that pricing really follow-up, you thinking to see year? how the And gains any I quarter ability this continue are sense. for maybe And about quantify us? makes you That in manufacturers Yes. growth

Michael Miller

to with And price are things of ways that the raising quarter. we cost the the I obviously, inflation. improved, keep We glass one quarter continuing that material one is also the fourth will actually say felt fourth just year hard do work in to very the in selling that is prior but primary not the prices. our up about good of sequentially fiber that we margins by

drag of still good feel there, we side. on But the products foam. we inflation the price material frequency So are amount given other particularly a are spray and about fiberglass margins where the as just acting the on

Jeff Edwards

Well, get all on and a the forward fiberglass. unlike other -- you of look pricing don't at products much the

Michael Miller

fiberglass, Unlike exactly.

Operator

Our next comes Dahl from Mike RBC question with Capital.

Chris Kalata

is This Chris actually Mike. Kalata for

magnitude Just kind on the glass of cost a of any are of there price eventual up thinking could non-fiber there? the your And headwind headwinds particularly I part is the about price of you're business. commentary cost the your the mean part in that of business? way of give how and following facing you sense us you inflection

Michael Miller

The headwind fairly is significant.

from to XX%. is, earlier, seen given in our Aluminum of really problematic. the did definitely that's perspective. business, haven't anything the dollar largest products. stabilization as we on, I But a continuing at We improvement quantified rise for But is the is going obviously, aware gutters business We've in see foam. part mentioned the problem some it publicly right now amount biggest and be is spray other you're which fiberglass as XX,

side. throughout they're at spray fiber that running inventory to capacity. and spray it's The at XXX% more tight On important to in XXXX, where estimate levels we improved seeing is in allocation I about on continue we essence, side, industry, And unlike although point are foam glass on material, utilization. of we think XX% the the operating fiberglass be like to the phone out side, expect foam

that what at chemical and to a in once really And until foam, for foam sources that -- buying pay upstream we that relief but fixed elevated that we buy is spray it has not much a in is price from it our XXXX. issue significant issue Unfortunately, higher, really to it think does So QX in We're multiple would from us is typically spray it would will foam. it, get not provide And ability typically of -- happen. for currently sperm customers. from. don't gets we're pay that we XXXX, we sources believe capacity but an that doing spray the service

Chris Kalata

can this mix see true it. the first price versus out turning like-for-like the Got to help pricing of you you're and that you And much split kind quarter, of the saw, year? benefits to of pricing XX% carryover how guys half was expected this in what

Michael Miller

The it was price. majority of

is But having in fourth same seeing continued product has we And from terms been out we're that the the be impact the then growth it price the it's of to mix As in the has the the very half builders. balancing that had the mix to discussed quarter, last stronger not production than on volume non-production growth. quarter the insulation other of in was first also year. similar the builders

continue going have fourth all to on you mix XX% on did what's would didn't XXXX. limited you to 'XX. there. to price price in trend exceptional. obviously, price going that top mix we're increases prices 'XX pretty to you the in So impact, in in the And quarter of mix But to price of throughout coming be carrying Obviously, is happen the those because raised price will, is increases -- calculation. we you're positively expect we if -- had We

on As increase continuing other selling particularly mix I quarterly a with prices. think work price up products pointed out, to was the in to it we're hard But record match we material us. prices for

Operator

question with next Goldman Our Susan Maklari comes Sachs. from

Susan Maklari

congratulate want and to promotion. on exciting That's hear deserved. to well I Jason very his

Jason. So congrats,

Jeff Edwards

Absolutely.

Jason Niswonger

Susan. you, Thank

Susan Maklari

the Yes. My AMD purchase question first around is the of in quarter.

the you you the in before. your remarks to mentioned chain more the that you that? of And terms business see done Can talk into bit little have and the part do get implications forward. of decision about distribution anything You a not supply the structure in cost in going

look that bit area? more and to little opportunity set expand about you So as a you can that talk into the

Jeff Edwards

are very I mean that to before. of even actually think mentioned I for that Jeff. period acquire time, is long this distributors we've -- Susan, Sure.

on fit, it actually was have so not enough I think to us scale large in accessory and some a purchases long us large of to probably benefit right a term us kind install finding were from was what we terms to matter the of be to one feel up customer as what I in but probably to the side capability obviously conflict, try the avoid think business most really of doing and also. this successful is divert primary kind our which we of with part

it term, sourcing, take But us kind of benefit very get longer and will So some purchases, time [Indiscernible] et full to work to of logistics we accessory over cetera, out really the positive. through cetera. et time,

Susan Maklari

helpful. builders exposure public also My to obviously lot a builders of That's the not just question country. is private you to the Okay. across have but other

what we year moving the you anything there your terms about you're private higher little builder things, think to rates the of all supply this and public? parts bigger is different enter about and the seeing bit customers? hearing can chain a from we're we As those relative different the talk from kinds and in And all of what

Michael Miller

about been production able frankly, scheduling started, their started, pandemic sorry. it do have to quite demand it better word, maintaining I job has of use traffic, since the homes. think of seeing selling consistent builders think do the really price to and price they're they're a what to very continuing constructive environment all that appreciation. But been I from order appreciation, as sort since the complete But

obviously, them. smaller greatly make And or business, that for there we had of had labor of of or up as the customers times. the quite frustration a for that I they're homes really have guys because -- very now. well. know. say the But a the time hard installs loss builder times that to working -- building product really unavailable, lead those And seeing think than loss depends builders. the would and a lag products guys, level think broad on extended in a we're they that. more the either regional been building to sure not and difficult extended you don't to But But things it I mix products chain, the days with they're to And can up have obviously, creates production have as do some isn't that follow they that to completing we're chain the few their make statement strong very that I market days -- as And some market have Now builder. isn't itself local because of those there's frankly, is experiencing mean, product at extended sorry, products the or they is those just other entire also right I

little things the the backlog I other was of think one I have because it's several backlogs companies the the the really of the just but that would out that so see don't bit, -- some we a expectation products slowdown ability in there, products are I that, seasonal that to think business experiencing not was that's last because talked you ability and other of on we've happening. that And are this. is a seasonality given this year all building at we're labor, about have times And seeing the there given strong. catch some point slight up a would think that the building typical

Operator

Our next from with Kim Evercore ISI. Stephen question is

Joe Ahlersmeyer

Ahlersmeyer. This Joe is

Just admin the expense. a quick on question

have But were up expecting absolute, mid- quarter to a to better the dollars volumes of remained think kind think bit in because the about from in and even constrained. high little though in I we that for ratio leverage pricing, with quarter volume. I the both were the see teens acceleration the talked year you actually the

couple questions, a think. of I So

back to way portion the what and of explained And structure variable in that 'XX? First, admin Are support is building particularly? maybe costs. 'XX about out think year, maybe admin cost the absolute the increase in growth good in volume costs, a of half what the to you

As volumes growth we cost how grow, admin should we into the see dollars? factor dollars, that in those

Michael Miller

to in cost increase So related look of to that acquired. from was QX, the you vast the acquisitions admin recently if majority QX were

wage that of feeling our is inflation company, difference every make level, in administrative and enough the the level, like we, at pressure significant is not to a G&A certainly, cost structure. large while So it at G&A

the -- of that the from little think of way bit of that -- it's terms variable. In more we a a G&A, variability G&A perspective there's is variable

install higher but directly just slower will rate in which fee material to and at and primarily sales. increase eventually trend goods with cost lower higher and almost labor, that volumes than quarter, in tends our of that and it trend versus sales, So a sold, sales the

Joe Ahlersmeyer

Okay.

Okay. Makes sense.

sequentially which a So sort maybe the more funky may the comp XQ, is versus year-over-year cost have anyway? of than way to been compare

Michael Miller

Correct.

Stephen Kim

In Kim to by a Steve this as just anniversary that we past wanted now. XXXX? mix issue. builder probably other considerations should I we ask go It's about about mix. you that into think thinking there there we be production forward Are any mix was year or so, the price question also. here would I

Michael Miller

the market Assuming headwinds the develop believe us a mixed to the way it should we of continues lot XXXX. is, behind be in

this is we year. to the see by more delta completions of stability half of we've point could the then component a a would other and what Now greater there be which things obviously, insulation. the production mix average job a with regional acceleration at last if also, current greater builders. product in the lot about the we impact sales, than at expectations lower in that in mix price experienced talked be sales, for the in But orders, And the local our builders, is X that first relative delta then being in price to

Stephen Kim

call the products, the conducive little current for you -- one with that's it not maybe affect nuisance it could the things does Is to shortages better your environment. incremental the opportunity word, is curious talk could about of environment? good How get products? craziness these all be actually there? very you share all going Last very maybe, for in how that helpful. does and was that that, for lack know so-called business to the all ability we I on in a That's that me actually chatted we've do builder. material a gain about past you. I you you if can nuisance have for bit Got in opportunity a Or

Michael Miller

then good If opportunity. a material, we have a it's

Stephen Kim

is in relative And of non-insulation to at inflation the it's these business? disadvantage to -- not because maybe sort core material that the your kinds of are ability you get a --

Jeff Edwards

is of I would glass highest there just our source market relationships and given ability our in say deep with all X fiber material our to share that manufacturers. the the

While the very same have dynamics a of it we not products, are does. the that large purchaser fiberglass does other

are environment material So supply products" well. a these as a of this nuisance as we constrained them, us kind to call become in "nuisance

kind overarching subcontractors the So being proposition these for I to builder overarching same, the theme. the with, of theme items, selling right? less deal mean good the it that on a of is smaller remains

is been on have in the the on think, make than so able in turns pointed Michael get some I that we're can't we've good smaller very multifamily think to successful, And the some products where as product labor potentially the our instances headway of out, of more but other you -- pretty side we more growth I probably seeing more so side. competitors. interestingly, things. been And

cover the knocking of is were team just off the mean I almost -- quite frankly. they're XX%. mean our multifamily ball, at up multifamily end year the Our backlogs the I

Stephen Kim

question. sorry one last That's I'm Great. helpful.

did You the the comment your about a foam, optimism make around spray rebound. earlier

off, thought of just the you us. Is chemicals share how that think you're you adjust I mentioned thinking that. there I have be into be the to this year to XXXX might Is that? would again pushed there prepare with that around got flow today was can XQ. in that or should Probably, and about, admin be like doesn't would there's kind you're doing for if that it something prepare wondering through for to business mean bid that -- you if XQ all later on costs anything you you positioning we issue it you about to that that if I thinking -- happen got fixed. maybe and might

Michael Miller

velocity material the those and spray and the price our increases customers It's price with increases. And the just continue frequency with the into of really working keep to continues, inflation to price take if it trying our the in foam continue the the is expect we with to half in more have not expectation, to just work year, customers of price. second would our we it to be to continue first half of challenged which up year, will get

Jeff Edwards

of, more to much done it. our this compound around supplier we guess, were kind we want try whatever I any foam a had business manufacturer expanded I foam that for to expect degree. with we've as to but source to kind a call our But we of much we mean greater to guard and by in continuing of we've what And chemical happen those preparation on purchases foam, base. weren't one percentage higher supplier particular we -- mean single

Michael Miller

Which you much are inventory across our cost is and at products. been material also from a board full right great not but -- sheet possible just quite terms in perspective now inventory, perspective. and to trying of inventory as we've if look the we've as from clearly, balance material And from a sourcing perspective get as efficient

Jeff Edwards

Texas, really felt in about largest they further lucky the But as least aligned being feel couldn't one We relates got them. being some We amount as Prior with just that and the of industry about do. to aligned leader, downstream. we with our it production of storm about happening, others in issues good that pretty and decision anticipated good we storm. problems had are the have of to the that at still same

Michael Miller

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Stephen Kim

Jason. Congrats,

Jason Niswonger

you. Thank

Operator

with Truist is Our from next question Securities. Klimyentyev Denys

Denys Klimyentyev

for is in Keith. This Denys

a regional reasonable -- comment little wanted dynamics any any performance that to could you're branches? on touch just So if you're from dynamics seeing seeing, I you on the bit

Michael Miller

doing of aren't positive not Southeast, the doing well, would even I well. West, say but It's performances those side. outsized exceedingly are the Midwest Western regions kind to on Central the that states the the South, and residential say Yes. from that Northeast Mid-Atlantic,

Denys Klimyentyev

if could whether quarter prior versus, could just has the then you same? or comment been prior believe quarter foam if if just spray the just previously you the And like Okay. is -- for was you the where on situation it supply say, on. now and and already touched apologies this But about it's tighter than

Jeff Edwards

little better. a It's

Michael Miller

a but It's a little better, a better. comes price. at it It's little

Jeff Edwards

subject But mentioned our to and bit just we is an little our that ability the what of better being base. have on little I it view a supplier question to is a expand earlier in

us. So but can't I it it's feels little absolutely on or -- certainly comment probably better volume, sets a better. to feels

Michael Miller

quarter was really The rough. third

Operator

question next is Our from Mike Rehaut with JPMorgan.

Unidentified Analyst

wondering goal said can Doug about and you pipeline insight you is the should in you we for you I think Mike. XXXX. have [Indiscernible] on last year. give was know did if robust how the as same on about further M&A I

were can, you what give can if from you they your the pipeline see target color preferences acquisition If in some changed on what further in XXXX? and you and has

Jeff Edwards

per changes, se. real No Sure.

at products looking year you We continue that out contractors, new to get other pipeline even good and a product into say to would plenty and/or there off coming feel obviously, not But being contractors of big but is markets we're regard. different year, and us first even all also said, also in robust, acquisitions that that sometimes. new we cash, like year got that this foremost, we've not end acquire, either insulation though at very potentially the very a last

Operator

question Jefferies. Ng next is with Our from Phil

Collin Verron

of it's already sort being do I Phil. of when the for foam your for go business. wanted you issue cost. actions like see guess offsetting that that spray first the than going more half to continue to back the be on through year margin-neutral Collin this total to company? an actually sounds the higher Understanding price costs just you're I accretive fiberglass is and This to in to your pricing

Michael Miller

the have there the to we to fiberglass. material say price would the least inflation, products, But the The the only we of is there's that at in because inflation difficult working It's earlier, side very the with hard not relative on on I top get in selling as said other actively same say visibility quarter. to fiberglass fourth that is price other products Jeff on there. our that are

fourth the had that the one for related. growth -- that working but too, at the were think really large for So things of us, you hard. in good that we when obviously, look the we're acquisition important, results was I commercial is all We business that's quarter it,

the different from down were terms side, residential large sales same-branch that the But adjust commercial the about prior in X.X% to from quickly. labor is very year. a your ability business On little of business

those 'XX encouraged seen headwind So it EBITDA. a extended about we've business in business, seen was that is projects because significant into reflective delays We But throughout commercial by is large which to in very definitely and fourth in in the 'XX. -- quarter, XX%, about projects. of delays the that our that have we've feel backlog up that million $X.X our of

next headwind. frustrating back the we ability to year, is but that So that unwind kind of about, of particularly some half feel good our of

Collin Verron

like Okay. in really it's chain helpful. board remain just tight That's And supply pretty to across then going the sounds XXXX. the

type I growth growing this volume So of constraints, given guess these yourself year? see organic what do you at

Michael Miller

But are easily constraints but necessarily rate. would insulation, low be completions support continued growth a the sort all continued backlog to We year. completion at disconnect the well expect backlog, IBP basis that But double-digit Well, an terms glad that look which that supply don't prior you of in I I going you there high-single, for we that know starts, there, that, not how supply constraints XXXX. starts all expect at would the It's say the to numbers. that would we for December aggregate we the between was asked on just I'm elevated have that we provide specifically you're in from think building digits really it is, out and a unprecedented guidance. given completions XX% unfortunately, say, in if because an question, wouldn't to it that mid-single products, of

-- there. exception I Now think do will absolutely there be an exceptions

mid-single-digit production it expect would they've to their targets that established was of delivery clear some maybe closer completion growth, big think do think And is even they look probably entire rate But home achievable. or I at in that we their I 'XX completion. in digit. some that as high-single, I market, the looking builders low-double that of growth them, for order if you're for at think the

Collin Verron

tick could help see what you like Any like And we demand given way market last that rate touching then us how on guess in backlog. to just in the the this it think that That's Okay. rising a too. one, interest compares up Just looked just when helpful, interest similar you mid-XXXX? in there. air I XXXX there's one in pocket saw saw rates concern environment, very

understand just this. we're be trying guess up to I for would something like better set how So IBP

Michael Miller

said a that's XXXX -- mid-single down sort completions Yes, in the And digits. go the really I completions were if mean you And good QX I 'XX weak. of very question. were

into and starts is the going top as even and was completions as today. of on 'XX, and not time it other, 'XX in So lead extended each were somewhat

a the a my and on believe rising try that, and in again, resulted or affordability in offset particularly decrease when to side, -- than going high by completions growth it rates the backlogs mid-single-digit was But completions, or existing we very us home. to going is homes starts, just many is see and that what's any back in buy more now completions Unfortunately, not the earlier buy. we any softening a home excuse are, growth comment that to we and flattening going to in rates there's getting that from aren't completions to given down, slowdown available continued is see from me, to bit there number little perception is goes will whereas frankly. in we completions a of we concern in which backlog sort very believe this be about there lead that people's to rising XXXX. think probably decision our quickly -- has consequence backlog impact to affordability. market elevated as the and how the quite starts XXXX What happening is about most relevant accelerated So obviously in that flattening And

Operator

Edwards of any Ladies for question-and-answer end and session. comments. like turn call Jeff the close reached back to the the gentlemen, to we've I'd

Jeff Edwards

Thank I our and to questions, forward your look for quarterly you next Thank call. you.

Operator

does This today's conference. conclude

may You disconnect. now

Installed Building Products (IBP) 26 Feb 222021 Q4 Earnings call transcript