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Barry Sloane | Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer |
Nicholas Leger | Executive Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer |
Paul Johnson | Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. |
Adam Morton | RBC Capital Markets, LLC |
Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Newtek Business Services Corporation Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. advised conference be being Please Instructions] that is this recorded. [Operator the now President to like would call and to Sloane, I Barry turn over today, your CEO. speaker go Please ahead.
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