W - Earnings call transcript Q4 2017

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Leandra and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Wayfair Q4 2017 Earnings Release and Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Mr. Instructions] [Operator Director Wayfair, Associate Relations Strategic and Joe may of begin at you your Finance Wilson, Investor conference.

Joe Wilson

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Steve Conine

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Michael Fleisher

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me turn Now, let take your Niraj the call before we over to questions.

Niraj Shah

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Operator

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Peter Keith

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Niraj Shah

Thanks. Yes. Hey, Niraj. It’s Peter.

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Peter Keith

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Niraj Shah

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Michael Fleisher

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Operator

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John Blackledge

questions. of couple a Just

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Niraj Shah

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logistics, and years two about So, that started so ago. ramping we the fulfilment

customer, from parcel, the experience. were home large we we the XXXX, as the excitement tested on saw two with promised the as delivery fast the delivery, WDN, happy in we of results sort delivery day around So the well

doing And so ramping in we what then ’XX started was it.

million have we parcel of warehouse, square X feet have small approaching you XX%. still numbers, over So, now,

forward. XX% that approaching that delivery You home large you continuing And XX parcel to of US. have move we that’s operations the saw

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Operator

Wedbush with line Basham question next Securities. Your from Seth comes of the

Seth Basham

incremental you talked is I'm we through Do your flow that you see here. philosophy a spend upside point base able your wondering some customers. incremental question upside bottom fourth margin the first guidance will the quarter, revenue that handily, to just grow you looked of soon? the about through beat continuing on Niraj, flow about to soft. at being and or My kind about In contribution revenue on contribution plan line margin through. to flow of as drop get you

Niraj Shah

Yes.

actually suspending don't the through. necessarily what we the decide what we're as deciding flow going We to think right. without it is, So about revenue spend number

there. we're say rollouts, ago, operation inbound in few So going we're freight do other to building talking so our looking team we're building decide, or and and want to in an to on the it the given sort benefits, a operation what we or consolidation transportation WDN in new be. if drage a ocean it's regardless we'll decide brokerage some models economics, We it right, a minutes way customer we’ll that’s talk a or scale that at initiative, like we test test sensible, find going revenue if think words, of we the if good, up and do we Right. is of I shows quarter good about good if about I up to

and advertising advertising economics customer The growth driven growth. headcount the just paybacks. that's around by So again is

advertising if figures very that out and breakthrough bunch the acquire a so a we're team let’s that. very side just about do a they customers can channel And and that economically, more on excited go

on And cost sides, those are this right. impacts separately, the should have customers. So, then all

out, impacts Now, one. day the customer are to not linear day in, one

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get we contribution not then tied So add the other. when you together, to but decided, those it's margin. And the

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quantitatively prudent. practical very and economically we're Now,

confines we're but those ROI conservative going to -- high absolutely not not these growth, make we're going very very pursue frameworks, we chase So of opportunities. and the to within payback frameworks will

Seth Basham

the there EBITDA margins higher another the asking results, you ran looking for planned way when the Perhaps provided guidance cost specific quarter than areas you quarter. of fourth where are then, question for that at

Michael Fleisher

have made quarter think don't logistics quarters now areas ran Niraj what than I’d that couple we that higher now XX% of about point XX% that years last to we've the investments are the to it's that the run level that expect below efficiency it's one, gross baseline costs in that then always see earlier, in not network when that the I note range and the I in and areas details. because guidance so are ago, increase down continued and out, there -- the margin on that at talked to of talking So yet something necessarily specific of back we’re created to to those said about are was delivery in over period which to piece we other call ramp tried we're cost for their we hiring. we were we've out, sort we've a And several increased you'll clearly I built of before part to the going is build come running sort and think that now they as

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Seth Basham

the question matter number around of that calculation. declined we do should of the numbers in quarters last Is forward? a growing continually, you about rate quarter XX% activated actually activated how to slowed by see customers. the customers is follow-up customers activated fourth going My just file law two of in is year-over-year growth year-over-year that that expect large and the The customer in think my trend a about or

Steve Conine

the nicely. comment. from to being some At recognition let at at markets let you declining, I’ll active continues grow those spend, customers, level then maybe Michael repeat in say our of behavior what to numbers, sure a count and I'm brand level, quite a analytics we continue high number million, – but a in we The comment it. the and really customers the at have acquire I’d on not growing The good high I’ll nicely the exactly Michael we're customer pace. repeat happy XX see with of we're derivative

Michael Fleisher

Yeah.

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of and customers much teams. for focus efficient we amount So revenue, a spend customer of net the get again percentage ad again to marketing lower unlock, substantial of a right, and our trying and sort the even though, repeat way a again dollars as it's that against key most come to to back

year dollars in see payback framework, our the we've efficient quarter paybacks ad about and go use I we'll really good talked which and out doing and within remarks year one every to to continue that. about we're of our continue talked that one and We spend prepared which under keep and

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Operator

Oliver comes the Your Wintermantel next line from [indiscernible]. question with of

Unidentified Analyst

network I had a build question regarding the out.

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Niraj Shah

Niraj. It’s

which your will thoughts So hopefully question. there, think answer two help I

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have so to network and amount fairly the growth And penetration build quickly your so the of you rises because just is significant.

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Steve Conine

first have all, it’s I good to of you think the, back.

what metaphor like going way we're the about we've inning built of the to it. foundation I think is to I and first hard. the of as right add we sort grow, that now The is think floor But a -- future that to got that. we've support foundation done the way order so first very of is floor, and and you've to I be footprint building done has that certain a particular in it think

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Unidentified Analyst

surprising very in us few on a the maybe a just buyback your follow-up just now? buybacks operations at time you a why points probably do quick here, a And comes Could here. you give

Michael Fleisher

Yeah.

feels like, is just just we to -- volatility. us a feels just it's It me entering prudent increased market this of think think to right. we're period just I is -- this like

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Operator

last our comes question from Graham of line Canaccord. Michael And the with

Michael Graham

ever give put that some business imagine, take things you and business, originally another a like about are the has color on to it what you it Just think at just this each be as might been international could would we Michael, QX trend us might might just be expect year you to have acquisition? I I your many would just ask ’XX, you then Is merchandising on the through mentioned to longer, taken more on if layer quarter, if positive of whatever keep the longer wanted get I get it improving. email, wondering margins. you any I'm on since margins international you years gradually one referring least take that that thoughts Is planned. to there international or customer to how helpful? than high wonder Niraj, it and level improving depth and international just little

Michael Fleisher

on start side. I’ll the margins Yeah.

margin. couple have the It in runs we on talked below US progress of think international I well business. that business we’ve about in quarters past made the gross some the still

experience, build business I that to there. that we spend think of right that feel margins we're losses work I supplier we're the sort selection of we're such and sort the in level and and in that to we've term, of combination site continue where a the people of business of to so sort seeing guided the uptake can set place think greater that near of broad sort there at place plus ramp up we ad

way more sort scale get unlock logistics the buyer We of volume the from margin, the a pieces Now perspective. that of all unlock important more more right. works flow scale, business on we and suppliers our through a as become is on well we we work side, our

we're levels going to point scale, that think there, margin in now right at of have unlock we I gross international more run as we we're as add to we’ll the so and be that. ramp then we're we but this should -- those that business continue at presuming at unlock And as businesses, margin to sort to gross the able we

Niraj Shah

On it’s of question the take I others. obviously you know, just, obviously and your longer. things international about things Mike, on would the email, on your one that's so than longer question certain takes agree

you need think you effectively old. that the to about everything it, built we've XX we’re build US in years If where

things off And a it augmented them building. the a lot didn't of from scratch. open more, supplier Europe logistics a service a infrastructure, When new lot relationships so big brand customer digital Canada that example, we in have brand relationships, then geography, infrastructure, building a supplier had for decade, you lot for with but more US we a we a rides has so catalog, of merchandising, even you're up benefit, because we’ve infrastructure And a and we built the a had though product intact. transportation first of

the building scratch, from the from building infrastructure product You’re scratch. you’re transportation catalog

just still And parallel, hire part do it’s lot need do so while is lot in more doing, can we're you of you there's and and to bigger a more what team a which a more.

simple customer a like things of primary it's not they're it almost and that secondary they’re activity. acquisition, longer So kind takes still are, and that activity, I think

you offer and really to So aren’t in until customer customer delivery service. and what position selection offers on your transportations, strong, acquire and customer is and offers, speed a out based customer go the customers well, of

consumed. is And first say really that I'd is really the order where that time so it's

Niraj Shah

thanks We Take Thanks, appreciate everybody. in. your time and for care. calling

Operator

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Wayfair (W) 22 Feb 182017 Q4 Earnings call transcript