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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to TopBuild Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I would now turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Investor President, Vice Zane, Relations. Tabitha

Tabitha Zane

good Thank you, and morning.

Buck, the Financial Executive Chief today Officer; Robert call are President Controller. Officer; and Rob Vice and Kuhns, On and President John Peterson, Chief

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Robert Buck

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delta to Our and backlog completions widen. growing and as the is starts between continues is strong very

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John Peterson

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Rob Kuhns

John, Thank morning, and you, good everyone.

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First, housekeeping a couple of items.

as being reported, part are DI’s with along As Partners, of our results segment. Specialty Service Robert Distribution mentioned,

increased $X.X due billion. are higher difficult our quarter basis increased and Partners. contributing the partially by prices with full and XX same-branch our addition, Service with for initiatives, billion. expectations. selling increased declined prices, volume Adjusted prices, for slightly XX.X%. higher XX quarter EBITDA profit quarter year, year-over-year XX.X%, XXXX, by year the now our $X.X purchase and offset XX.X% $XXX.X labor points, lower margin higher and ahead $XXX.X same-branch for results selling fourth partially with in completed increased results, providing a points sales million, selling to gross fourth for significant XX.X%, XX% amortization gross the respectively. for improvement constraints, by basis, industrywide in points we quarter basis to chain due segments. gross The with DI improved a associated DI, to the in margin XX.X% improved to basis quarter strong both On adjusted by In of sales adjusted from was million, reporting supply productivity XX while for we by sales full points driven acquisitions XXX Starting accounting primarily XX basis, both XX.X%, by a comp XXX full driven net the basis, On volume. the to of same-branch year full to continued increased adjusted basis XX.X%, On fourth more a shortages Sales Adjusted the along driven sales Adjusted operating and margin higher margin and operating offset the fourth XX.X%. and to basis improved controls, grew sales points cost the inflation. the year material to XXXX,

As previously discussed, TopBuild legacy operating currently margins our we have is lower at DI business. than

million, operating XXX points points. On Fourth compared On XXX basis DI all a EBITDA the last million, due our additional In operating adjusted XX.X%. expense a removing same-branch margin in a XX.X% basis, basis, M&A, full other $X year quarter. adjusted transaction, same-branch basis, to improved DI margin amortization the impact to operating in improved quarter. an the increase. we million addition, was adjusted our improved incurred fourth margin XX.X% to accounting to XXX quarter On purchase year, improved a from $XXX.X $XXX.X of operating while million profit points $XXX.X and basis the the adjusted of basis

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of our of incremental or ahead XX%, quarter XX.X%. which from incremental million, was margin XX.X%, of consisted EBITDA $XX.X fourth M&A adjusted quarter EBITDA of XX.X% fourth margin Our DI’s and of was sales, expectations. EBITDA same-branch EBITDA

adjusted improved margin margin basis EBITDA and basis XXX grew XX.X% improved $XXX.X On XX.X%. adjusted For points. million, full to a EBITDA same-branch to points EBITDA basis, adjusted XXXX, year XXX

as expense adjusted The the year previously Interest EBITDA share-based EBITDA EBITDA was incremental adjusted lower impacting fees as mentioned and were consisted and full XX%, EBITDA incremental million, XXXX. from million of the partially Senior was in factors margin, XX.X%. Our well margin XXXX profit replaced LIBOR and interest was our in offset This due on offering rates XXXX. million, million, Notes of which from versus XX.X%, Notes lower decrease by due same-branch first and to $XX.X compensation was Both additional $XX.X lower Notes margin $XXX in private expense X.XXX% driven due primarily legal X.XXX% of M&A that improvements October operating of gross X.XXX% expense. in Senior XXXX due quarter by expense loan, in million, of interest XXXX. in were $XXX refinancing with lower term $XXX Senior our our adjusted

net $XX acquisition. approximately million, costs. capital twelve-month DI Adjusted the was impact points tied Fourth trailing of non-GAAP and our basis of XX.X%, was for income of $X non-GAAP $XXX.X million with as diluted the result from XXXX Notes. XX.X% share-based to the tax compared was XXXX decrease extinguishment increase DI step-up, to debt to share, integration-related Senior increase the XX% percent effective quarter costs totaled million, from increase step-up, diluted $XX.X $XX.X per of was an or X.X% fourth quarter primarily associated purchase higher to for Adjusted $XX.X year the full and a adjustments primarily year, $XXX.X $XX rate were refinancing inventory related or year. Our income totaled the tax year the the million for inventory increased million, items. full for to year XXXX full a related as the in than and $XX.XX year. purchase Working one-time acquisition-related the share, revenue. accounting in XX.X% XX.X%, and an driven $X.XX XXX to million, million, CapEx related prior adjustments primarily redemption per a non-deductible benefit year accounting XXXX from transaction This of costs, acquisition. prior million compared X.XXX% prior compensation, expenses, included net by from of sales of Full of an

range XX%. are with evaluating at in trailing EBITDA. and adjusted to X.XX revenue times to DI, improvements working leverage percentage We XX% ended year as settle capital net capital at of a pro months a We forma of the working twelve expect see of

at X.X the million, we $XXX.X million cash of cashflow time was $XXX.X at on $XXX.X million. XXXX. from forma already of $XXX.X for Total and Our liquidity year-end announced inclusive times is significantly DI available the was acquisition. our $XXX million of net leverage pro million down revolver, the Operating the

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issues rising could but We’re we to affordability and have also not inflation lead rates to dampen might any cognizant demand, that impact interest seen that date.

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Robert Buck

Thank you, Rob.

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Operator

from Thank Please Trey you. [Operator Stephens. go ahead. Grooms Instructions] Our first is with question

Trey Grooms

Hey, good morning.

a John, on year. to wish best next your congrats the And, you finish on off, congrats First strong chapter. the and

John Peterson

that. you. appreciate I Thank Trey, Great.

Trey Grooms

Okay.

situation, these these guess, easing back what's easing the two, with mentioned number of remain assumption number thoughts you're - and guess, for volume, backlog of cadence I around first growing guide expecting is, half. and some create for tight, at question comment kind the kind with maybe well, it about, volume, constraints to due Number I have back-half a it low be that constraints, in some the the to of one, could at kind trying this help year of one. there expectation So, understanding going talked you given mid-single with you that I the guess here get as sounds the more supply loaded there looking and you the of this to but is like digit around to constraints that there's easing to this the

Rob Kuhns

expecting Hey we markets. growth to And we're demand Certainly, volume without constraints, Trey, by would year, at really driven constraints. significantly this your higher strong growth. mid-single Rob. Yes, continuing digit our looking low see To so end be point, three next that. volume than is being the all the that's across

backend, the expecting step in we're itself optimistic So, the back bit half. function a a that availability in not change little towards sort we are but it'll out more

Trey Grooms

right, Oh, that's okay. All helpful.

I XX,XXX. missed thought end XXXX, in from, the for longer-term something between, half. I but slight million hopefully I of So, here the last the back for update, think may One at improvement, the one the residential was revenue the last nothing monumental, have it per in million, XX,XXX $XXX up and $XX guide, every just starts,

can So, if since in you us place much share then put that market pricing has bit, unpack a help gains? little how versus

Rob Kuhns

- the There's year. well done Trey, Yes, And that. M&A It's the really the past main price is drivers over over Rob two this year. then really to as again. we've past as

drivers So, of that. big those are the two

Trey Grooms

I billion guess remarks mind, of the the okay. of you lastly, year $X at to but noted And capital put kind obviously. M&A you the as for is that still big Yes, did DI prepared M&A mention work, of top And integration possibility.

Just given us how heavy integration maybe the messaging? just M&A year, help through the the that we given saw was kind in ’XX, as of look kind thinking you dial-back appetite this what Was about get on past. of a of in should appetite bit there think we work-through? as kind we M&A about just the be Or that your little of

Robert Buck

good It’s mornings. Right. Robert. Trey,

in yes, DI, another So, priority, four residential space. one additional space, seen distribution you've but absolutely integration specialty DI three our the in we've since the acquisitions, we acquired completed

quality pipeline really of the the still healthy. targets. So, is focused definitely We're on

there. to I to So, us, from with across do doing great activity we're end three feel think I integration but and me also going great with see this for confident a all remarks, prepared you'll my think heard in DI, we're great looking a a year really see of us That's start. markets, job you’re which what us say you acquisition off we so this

a all as nice going great markets of across DI, It's be So, to a got end three it's pipeline going integration we’ve well. a balance. be really good and to

Trey Grooms

pass Right. you, Rob, again. Thank Thanks I'll and it Robert on. and

Operator

Thank you.

Adam ahead. Our is with next Baumgarten Zelman question & Associates. go Please from

Adam Baumgarten

low break further residential commercial industrial, good I in maybe Hey, or a about of digits. they're volume and kind if mid-single just Any you're the guess boat? can how thinking you with morning. sticking down to all versus the way guidance, similar

Rob Kuhns

Adam, is this Yes, Rob.

also markets across But So, inflationary point it's between of difference environment different, serve, over well. to three. an strong be next obviously drastically environments similar say to year the supply, we're to expecting which demand, a - tight not going two we going or is the lead we as three

Robert Buck

mean, Rob this Adam, Maybe that, Robert. to said. really what add the on are is just I to healthy. backlogs to

the well that that's in as as As our across extension in residential, happened we backlogs cycle there, look given commercial industrial. time, and backlog the

So, across. would here healthy the year a start we say great really really backlogs XXXX, also really to in also. And

So, seen thus far in the really happy new with early what year. we've calendar

Adam Baumgarten

it. between the pricing Maybe kind And of there, then couple some distribution, Okay, if Delta Distribution to and continues on walk TruTeam factors as widen. you the just a business got the could of driving through well as at the you the gap through to expect volume, negative on narrow just business, tough you in that And half expect that first then still if we comps should volumes face? given point. some

Rob Kuhns

this Adam, is Rob again. Hey

So, the and Installation differential material Distribution, the between primarily driven pricing as far by as really content. it's

the within on of So, install side, on labor the you sales, cost have material. and material, and distribution, purely it's

of your repeat question. to things. part dynamic the on I'm sorry, the And of going pricing have So, then are higher you distribution side always a second

Adam Baumgarten

the to tough half the for comps Yes, first that pretty just in we the expect volumes similar remain negative those on given have? should industry, you

Rob Kuhns

is comp going sure for to quarter Yes. another first Service year-over-year. Partners for be tough

likely a probably that's trend. So,

Adam Baumgarten

guys. Thanks, it. Got

Operator

Thank you.

with Jefferies. Please Ng Philip from is question ahead. next go Our

Philip Ng

all you looking Rob, It's on forward guys. years. working working John, strong to helpful. And these you going appreciate congrats super quarter. another with Hey, forward. more been with

John Peterson

Thank you, Phil. Much appreciated.

Philip Ng

guess, things lot costs. price we Rob, a cover, of catch-up you heading into on still playing I XQ, off, they're for to companies kick

guys a obviously on really have job done front. You that good

incrementals been some putting of up to now the pricing of have to type kind actions year? starting all for you've get need how on the the taken Just price you maintain time you want some - color

Rob Kuhns

Thanks, Phil. Yes, this is Rob.

So, coming. going into QX, we've more got price increases some

hit and increases suppliers cost from beginning had that of December the we So, some QX.

but based in and team get managing I year, see that our just the front XXXX throughout those, of anticipate think that, doing excellent trying last out well. we're you So, an to our of job does on field as in we results

Philip Ng

through rates and reason question slippage, a is if to us it demand compare bigger time asking, go quite I'm you manage a we is saw for then limited strong for with how do way air this in business you XXXX housing The today? have underlying just give mid-XXXX you, frankly And And very very Super. which up picture, versus pocket good Can now. But right it. an Robert. up, call there like Got but that sense levels? a actually denying no set you going now are XXXX? your to backlog that there's how well you curious, much

Robert Buck

Morning, Yes. Phil.

contracts, if think our let about activities. given So, bidding commercial that obviously business, me our we in good I and mean, about, industrial there's given to visibility I talk first. what see

on actually the backlogs So, have actually commercial side, grown. those - have

projects we spike down of supply slow COVID get As and some given the sell some, constraints. chain the in

grow backlogs to. be think at homes things starts Number there mean, builders a and that there. delta right? I few little a to I looking seen and stuff. mean, we've completions, would harder I one there's point Delta Residential, between major to have So, quantify. sell that to continued

if along like at see seen obviously like multifamily add multifamily as contracts the more work the you that look XX% more X%, secured we've continued of we and backlog. coming starts on that's So, a to rate and our completions plus we've that's to side.

XXXX here didn't you our in weather talk that's and as third great think was ‘XX. think hey, went start say, year you seasonality expect January, quarter - even the we So, really left about to yes, into And also there in I to see call, we why, heard on us us I XXXX. heard and

we and industrial side to contract-wise all solid stuff think backlog, well. commercial definitely I as business on the of see points that and the So, a that

Philip Ng

color be think DI, And material but but understand of Okay, probably obviously kind helpful. I'm in it's ability your Any as to that constrained than business? Robert, there grow color how availability that's resi, - suspect familiar less I I little I from helpful. what with might on to a be understand, about not less would tight. any

Robert Buck

sure. Yes,

a So, few things.

think the you bit supply about the was If chain material industrial of that of impact business, side in a little the the delayed.

chain, some materials there, building the the there and as inventory base. say their a are side are resi of And They tight in on relationships year facilities of DI, the nice tight great side relationships. but the we'd not building on well. supply as business. so, some insulation some as with like that and Great job TopBuild, last really of their supplier did

got So, there. some growth paths I think we've great

some You've in drove to manage nice inventory, how it, levels, share their a they XXXX. they how dd DI talk about some heard service us opportunities. really gain their greenfield which job manage

relationships, So, really we're in supply several chain, I think confident mutual no, that that mutual suppliers.

think good we XXXX - being customers I service So, those of in and level able grow to confidence here.

Philip Ng

a color. it. Great Robert. Thanks lot, Appreciate

Operator

Thank you.

Michael with Our go next is from question Please ahead. JPMorgan. Rehaut

Michael Rehaut

congrats Good Thanks. both Great. and and everyone, morning, to John Rob.

might I it. have and is if something kind I addressed of apologize this question, missed but earlier, you First

thinking the trying sense, an of you're how but know terms I other mid-single guidance components, that in that major was of a volume end terms it growth to a said sales ’XX, incorporates I digit of get number. kind market acquisitions and In about you for two price perspective, a upload from the contributing also to

Rob Kuhns

this Rob. so Michael, Yes. is

assuming M&A those $X.X are. we've inflationary in assumption is obviously above could obviously, billion factor volume our DI our things you price fourth given, you guide We've in, guide if to price that environment, that the with portion in disclose an wherever year-over-year year-over-year. is but get doing math, sales two be Obviously, year-over-year, in significant - got then a And we about down baked quarter. break acquisition what there, going ballpark you the the of happening don't the to So, is. if growth with our about we it's

John Peterson

that to - Michael. here additional is coming here pricing be guidance that in in Rob’s be could in the additional think included. M&A as XXXX we the be But guidance, no in there'd would And well, that point,

Michael Rehaut

little we a maybe Well, more that. could Okay. on then offline talk

over think you secondly, think just for can time. or - better what is time, standpoint. sense it's about And it over to amortization EBITDA but think margin make talk performing I near a rate margins said expected. about comparable, I than think you obviously Any to going the on, know, to EBIT. things from DI, way less where want term margin DI I little a the obviously I through comparable path business that you any be

Robert Buck

Robert. is this Michael, Yes.

think we've the got acquisition. stuff, are. we we it, a business great about And the that's more the as closer So, just confident and more to

two. - projection we sight of of DI momentum to that business that plus expect had confident $XX margin couple have us rate in well. business, highly we the mid-teens that things about as And good that operational improvements to in of the we take if think your $XX next expect, continued year your type about to absolutely get here the within run talk And line years. margins, of the million in million heard you've So, end that, by our to directing synergies that. question - I we

business. a So, in record they've record that nice got proven got proven nice track integrations. of really a track We've

in adding to confident accretive really platform distribution think built specialty we've becoming that that DI I there. and So, really

Michael Rehaut

All Okay. right. Thanks.

mean, quick a year the some last the you're came that. top $XXX that to for just and sales. at one I one at ’XX. triangulate - price perhaps little on on DI, same sales it of on about trying bit at in growth I mean, but annualized contribution is million another Just with looking time, again,

and ‘XX be of in again, would sales, So, any try way the again, helpful to if contribution dimensionalize just DI possible.

Rob Kuhns

this Michael, Yep. Rob. is

So, I probably a your there. in little coming for DI low number think is

you think a two the months. be might the and I annualizing half

continue number $XXX fourth And expecting so net-net, and two strong. also think strong would is we north for I And a and we’re probably that be that year - very year. momentum months next - somewhere but going was million say next that of into but their a to half to quarter

Michael Rehaut

lot. a Thanks Okay.

Operator

you. Thank

from Truist is next ahead. go with Please question Our Keith Securities. Hughes

Keith Hughes

Thank you.

and at is for contribution more then goes and year, longer, be you would that margin, was - year As years the your the organic at beginning you've of it straight us improves as the given look line? to be lower going guidance these one

Rob Kuhns

Rob. is this Keith, Hey

year. to is, mean, I core consistent think think the business throughout we we'll I about on the So, it the way improvement show

If of were more probably EBITDA be incremental of XX% we next to the guided perspective, M&A the should down, expect you to from our then in to of year. range slightly guided of our to a piece, the our lower be right the XX%, same-branch break that so And EBITDA that. on than midpoint range middle towards the just right, end high we

Keith Hughes

number, the how is end of to looking that through get ratably you're kind high on to that But out? year

Rob Kuhns

Yes.

seasonality now, with is the consistent would I but incrementals to right the We’re quarters obviously first half going it the heavier M&A be be out not of than fourth expect year. that the DI breaking back quarter throughout over to three those the with -

Keith Hughes

Right.

you. Thank Okay.

Operator

Thank go Stephen you. is our Kim from next with Evercore ahead. ISI. question Please

Stephen Kim

I miss do all the years. appreciate help really Thanks But John. very the yes, we we'll And Congratulations. guys. much, - over you,

John Peterson

Thanks, Stephen.

Stephen Kim

And availability. - you, my question of I this delve limited for guess, I asked wanted most of sure. for and but into question already, been the have Question questions to shortages the

spray You was fiberglass. said across foam both it and

can then give customers on of there longer to Just at you the extend So, to I on your strictly of to headwind insight first are numbers seeing a Is customers of there we looking delays sort actually or those can a from just sort wait limit just way get what's us of little that what quantifying practical part? going sales of these all, availability, product to guess, that qualitatively a altogether? branch. you're bit is your sort losing understand perspective, into are from that of was. what willing think situation, that the and a which

Robert Buck

is this Yes. Robert. Hi Stephen,

in if guess we these And honestly heard worse in XX more entire trades right? let's before I us getting we bit the about, little to XX in were industry, I days the so that delays - And cycle there's mean, than the to off, really and that QX us. probably first that. elongated that site probably hit kind I So, XX in even to out a quite days, I'll XXXX. shortages on saw of job you've think get have actually talk elongated

I'd are of tight. From our the on relative getting fiberglass job fair we're that when has to our that say, We allocation. So, share other site. know so really, trades stalling remained getting we're - perspective it's the

share you that heard new our us lines got talk more capacity. with about think back, I coming fair we new than even to the relative

from reason for been this industry the So, bigger issue that on And materials back go think constraint probably overall. being, I'd material to to right, if in end I side, necessarily. deep it's time necessarily to an us input definitely the labor than say been familiar not you're you just type foam And the it's of overseas, year, ’XX, of more been, spray perspective. probably of what has constraints happened it, materials last coming input of with the freeze

we the doubt, more been there residential foam say I'd business, growth look relative has no two, our So, really fiberglass losing definitely tight. limiting probably we between businesses. to happened as of at But confident the we're what's look the I'd from perspective, a remains say both at as side spray the sales, residential the factor. in

distribution there branches a some around side servicing share I'd customers, our our on customers. So, overall, trade-off our and distribution and great we moving could be some separately, branches material the but separately between do install those And for between sure. keeping say job

material the bit and a we've shape, So, I we we've share advantage completely as of maintained as great between I allocate and ourselves in little think areas. got probably well the in how picked of that a visibility, think up have we separately two, the some

Stephen Kim

obviously mortgage of or business? in anything longer-term hearing subsequently of gotten to you if see bit price rise and keep in any spray that interest affordably more foam. that a Thinking move more everybody interest sense. like No, has anticipating the people's from whether fiberglass with I'm say, ramifications you're make kind doing, residential overall product, or having which the relative term, the Are I might going should a of would down Yes. priced on and wondering spray not rates that's longer a to foam, little the that homes, in rates just rather, interest side tag you to

Robert Buck

prices and see, about then mean, over are from sure, that, more I to affordability your hearing foam that about going significant increases point, home as XX of and rates, well, production seeing the to modifying first builders, are for I interest So, past I great the thinking been market they're - they're thinking to yes. you're doing spray product as in as to homes we the the going job to XX relative about no months. you’re stuff there's doubt, they're level think with. it, think they're entry a And

spray wagon given towards given But some as builders back you are foam are others and And its see field, moving so, absolutely that the on see that, fiberglass custom we builders well. benefits. still do smaller

So, instances, healthy there choice inflation, are fiberglass in the versus some builders foam and given some seen side, to go example. as made we've spray a back this overall, on dollars meaningful the have move an But that foam on units. no to

Stephen Kim

Yes. Makes sense.

Okay, much, great. Thanks guys. very

Operator

reached turn back Thank to Buck and Robert question-and-answer Mr. have end the call I the you. ladies would remarks. closing for and to the session, like gentlemen, of we

Robert Buck

you Yes. we Thank May, us in to when our everyone today. QX look for talking with report forward joining you we results.

Operator

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TopBuild (BLD) 22 Feb 222021 Q4 Earnings call transcript