Earnings call transcript Q4 2022

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Operator

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending today's EverQuote Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Call. My name is Megan, and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end.

I would now like to pass the conference over to Brinlea Johnson of Blueshirt Group. ahead. go please Brinlea,

Brinlea Johnson

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Jayme Mendal

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I your questions. and answer Jayme now will

Operator

Thank you. Instructions]. [Operator

question first line Graham the Michael of Our with from comes Canaccord.

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Michael Graham

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Jayme Mendal

Sure. Thanks, Mike.

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seen we've would into levels expect we sit effect, that elevated marketplace. And to Even persisting for we long behavior, of saw so flow likely is cycle as which as to today, rate XXXX. XXXX, and in we from the the where consumer extend shopping in it's it through XXXX continue into

Michael Graham

helpful. really you, That’s Okay. Jayme. Thank

Jayme Mendal

welcome. You’re

Operator

Thank Mr. you, Graham.

Our line question of Cory next Carpenter from JPMorgan. comes with the

now is line Your open.

Cory Carpenter

year? a presentation into Jayme. provide from auto touch any And kind you're just and then, you John, for color the on versus just Thanks year. non-auto about growth maybe your you to questions. non-auto for extent with Jayme, the on you, One help to the guide initiatives talk starting a perspective. Thank you're Maybe the you John just of you reaccelerating some this us for one And could what with this there? recovery you. of Could bit expectations mentioned could baking growth willing

John Wagner

Sure. Thanks, Cory.

in-market included a our first, back So now is, seeing that in have consumers. acquiring environment seeing obtained within guide rate we're our mentioned, we're as small the of carriers that Jamie subset adequacy and

the fact that certain that then claims. So reach adequacy, carriers imbalance half year, carriers much say the already into gradual the very we see a our 'XX. in between includes including through they've a the back would there's rate then within start increase say of other and of And And gradual range the market, that's acquiring still business also as we uncertainty I burn certainly Some see into amount struggling movement rates see book again. I are premiums of would going of with the and kind a right? addition, in that is it they baked that demand in. then from them their we taken And

a the know captured we're speed we that the what and range for And look there like as will slope guide as -- what that not in certainty like. the our well. that don't allows with fact so look will There's well we've the what recovery,

so prudently captured And scenarios of would I we've guide. kind say, really, our those in

autos. talk lot we a As -- we certainly the look breakdown, about we at

see also growth also course the of year as the We well. returning growth, other non-auto verticals to over the

So gear to up the growth across we starting for are board.

Jayme Mendal

the we and intensely second apply answer rigor stabilizing added at had be non-auto in agent more vertical. and driving discipline question, business. focused that exited And health part up And the grow a the of that And and your of the it expense We we of And and some the expense to expense decision well. and we're the to focus doing the in an any instead direct to certain Medicare example verticals. of management. XXXX, comfortable unfortunately, made will came we on of year to on Cory, started, and we and part verticals health last other of in amount Medicare resourcing and as of to of the plans One agency unit here business. in come where heavily growth so, not But year lower than would our tradeoff. to really part headcount we efficiency the headcount a consumer year with with with the auto level as that exclusive at entered

So planning year, this for reacceleration. we in come are as we

already sort business we reallocated as continue will them have auto non-auto potential amount in dedicated to move growth the of to mode. back non-auto to And getting reinforce recovers, We see the of verticals. some look because huge verticals a into just and we continue that resourcing to forward

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Carpenter.

from Our Needham. line next the of with Mayank question Tandon comes

Your now line open. is

Mayank Tandon

as ask expectations request Good growth of is per look you was revenue Congrats, John. higher. quote How Jayme XXXX? quote Good to terms you. that I going breakdown thinking request? the evening. encouraging. are hear the more your about just in and and inflecting Thank That's to that at you around

John Wagner

of fueled traffic. well We that. as it take as growth I'll monetization by as Mayank. mix being see a Sure,

that for renewal, catalyst pretty rates the a been dramatic environment the always tune carriers, of we consumer think talked the envelope a that's is pretty the which taken lot marketplace with increasing, significant. in As us to within are rates. increase a rate in the having mid-teens, a has opens for shopping we already of about, sees carriers on biggest when And

we QX see think in So shopping. that year. that to industry-wide, consumer past And of this drives we've started

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Mayank Tandon

John, or of Is the the trends, auto, just expect EBITDA out with square especially question rest in just year helpful fairly the it well? the we the I usual revenue then be given VMM this linear should to around terms some as trajectory That's will in out seasonality. outlook? and another to you wanted that how also us course remind of in seasonality going your 'XX And could of play very build you the and of context. of as add to seasonality, year

John Wagner

sure. Yes,

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normal seasonal of within kind auto. of So that's the characteristics pattern the

that, has And health the just we in contradicts usual to get that build different you that some second over overlay offering year, QX, you think a to have when our then something DTCA as half growth would a bit the has the comp the of clearly, the this see look and year. especially opportunity, I some that pattern I and at of seasonal fact that through pattern. especially

and with overall So QX results, quarter strongest if health a lock-in the strongest quarter QX. you QX at period our DTCA has stronger the look within -- QX business quarter and in health the second in in

So in for open QX in health, and offerings. reduction annual health to as in enrollment XX a health expect QX QX within the under then Advantage we and and period as QX would period softer before a enrollment returning period the well for Medicare

Mayank Tandon

That’s me. very much. helpful. you for Thank so Good refresher

Jayme Mendal

Mayank. Thanks,

Operator

you, Thank Tandon. Mr.

Our William comes line next from Ralph the of Blair. with question Schackart

Your line now is open.

Ralph Schackart

has questions. to model that, has Good business growth. out afternoon. Thanks then had rate. business gone the seen for of taken where the EverQuote's strong coming The marketplaces taking historically through the have adjust. pretty carriers transitions these And

rewind curious of little maybe you little any lesson that. well Just the a and seeing kind give cycles, now history thoughts for could bit you're your maybe as differences? versus here that on similarities Just past if curious as us a

John Wagner

Ralph. off, So it start I'll

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Jayme Mendal

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Ralph Schackart

you. Thank Super helpful.

guess Just the maybe budgets reflected curious a I change you any in of full But today. taking if rate? you're are just you. follow up. on with the uncertainty basis changes in behavior any and set that's that, from the annual Just seeing just and your Thank them year there kind Carriers sort in given seeing guidance carriers? macro pattern typically of

Jayme Mendal

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Some operate a relatively unconstrained way.

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Ralph Schackart

Okay, you, super helpful. Jayme. Thank

Jayme Mendal

Ralph. Thanks,

Operator

Thank Schackart. you, Mr.

James. with comes line Kessler Our of Raymond Aaron from question the next

Your open. line is now

Aaron Kessler

share market reacceleration then currently? for And verticals, the thinking you. talk in on most noted about you bit you agents? lastly can a gains, kind of you the well do just you. kind report XXXX? from the in seeing you can as talk additionally, some in the you see Maybe Thank -- little agency quarter, of I Thank performance Great. what you're think And how you competitors think doing the opportunity where just just versus you non-auto are are

Jayme Mendal

Sure.

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Aaron Kessler

the agents. local Yes, auto

Jayme Mendal

sure. Yes,

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Aaron Kessler

Great. Thank you.

Jayme Mendal

Aaron. problem. Thanks, No

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Kessler.

Oppenheimer. Kelly Our of from Jed with next the comes question line

line is open. now Your

Jed Kelly

for taking Great. Hi. Thanks my questions.

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how or and kind discuss of mixed to Thank the Can the somewhat the in environment? I Just dynamic, XQ. some potential a competitive going of rate competitors any file you think faster is acquisition the anything competitive environment And of dynamics? the around maybe Can you back valuations then for discuss did are acquisitions you. offering. guiding overall you maybe growth for shelf a

Jayme Mendal

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from a QX carrier the relatively QX. from sequentially as step up seen have of terms substantial It's small into We in a mentioned, of it we subset concentrated, base. coming

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John Wagner

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Jed Kelly

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John Wagner

are clarify, you to marketing? just Jed, saying and the sales non-advertising component of

Jed Kelly

Yes.

John Wagner

Yes.

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scale the that which P&C significantly the is we DTCA, were on business. especially the mostly within us the year, lower establish going focused being there health. and could to of this versus DTCA item in into improving This we count, last driven improved reduced Jayme of that And was business, year agent out mentioned, in so efficiency you grow it see more resources year. year, most efficiency. line both lower we And very for Last important as the expense our

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Jed Kelly

you. Thank

Jayme Mendal

Thanks, Jed.

Operator

Kelly. Mr. you, Thank

Riley Day Our B. final question comes with of Securities. Daniel the line from

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Daniel Day

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John Wagner

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to adjusted over when the EBITDA. for at the really midpoint marketplace, significant we full as operating of for that's talk tends that a of operating cash we about think which similar our think business, full dynamics I the the year. cash of the narrow improvement year, positive flow is very to positive our produce At flow a guidance, level cash The XXXX.

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Daniel Day

appreciate all got, the I That’s guys. I’ve time. Okay.

John Wagner

Dan. Thanks,

Jayme Mendal

Dan. Thanks,

Operator

back time. Mr. Day. over for There additional closing the waiting you, this Mendal pass to conference questions remarks. are Thank I’ll Jayme at no

Jayme Mendal

Thank you.

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sharing goes year our the to Thank all. progress you forward Looking updates as on on.

Operator

year full day. and hope your quarter call. for fourth I EverQuote earnings the have a Thank XXXX you concludes That wonderful participation. you

EverQuote (EVER) 28 Feb 232022 Q4 Earnings call transcript