CWH - Earnings call transcript Q2 2020 | Camping World Holdings, Inc.

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Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Camping World Holdings Conference Call to discuss the Financial Results for the Second Quarter of Fiscal 2020. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode and later, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. Please be advised that this call is being recorded and the reproduction of the call in whole or in part is not permitted without written authorization from the Company. Participating in the call today are Marcus Lemonis, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Brent Moody, President; Karin Bell, Chief Financial Officer; and Tamara Ward, Chief Operating Officer. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. started. us get to Moody Please go sir. ahead,

Brent Moody

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Marcus Lemonis

Thanks, Brent. Good afternoon, everyone.

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Karin Bell

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Operator, are We now ahead. take to questions. please happy your go

Marcus Lemonis

turn for and ahead Q&A. it go We'll over

Operator

we Instructions] And Rick first Stephens, [Operator have from Nelson.

Rick Nelson

could to and progressed July Marcus cadence you sales far? and speak thus early of as you're August in saying the the quarter what

Marcus Lemonis

accelerate we our activity. we have take look the were near days gloomy relatively of we with but our business, an see to service what and When that traffic, performance April overall which volume, traffic, percentage I stronger, were through basis, look are dark same saw the standpoint in seeing pretty We're at progressively when in time online the press thought slowdown that of February, a we of and as of we started June and and don't and any pretty last you May January inventory, got in we would remind reason starting first we into typically year-over-year XX activity And from in all sales July the retail And at type we at the clearly the week see decided it is strong. channels on of RV experiencing consistent our and as a why to already volume, May and strong. center gas, web everybody, were future. really June largely of our April. a call the our least

Rick Nelson

Can what it could is your like appears second growing, have an better year you share, if there? quarter idea comment market this you in

Marcus Lemonis

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properly. we taking curve the call the So in works, the are demand calls supply center

overall of industry frankly. us the that doing just that is would the isn't hopeful healthy, industry that believe fantastic are because we anything big heard We a of everybody make we and part haven't are quite

Rick Nelson

enough mentioned per this point You your or at inventory pace to you like year-over-year. Do are constrained? down have at feel XX% continue product you location grow this to supply

Marcus Lemonis

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Rick Nelson

of which peers? come supplies hang industry above these all long how it years, the three back take to if will you your hurt to to two, And on carriers,

Marcus Lemonis

Rick am little sorry. of that, on a was missed there. bit a I I disconnection There

Rick Nelson

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Marcus Lemonis

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expect our to XXXX on of basis. we back better as XXXX half into margins a So get the we gross than comparative be materially

Rick Nelson

finally, you if where record I in XXXX? there could atop do you EBITDA in ask demand get do is that if other there And you initiatives out or here, here grow think Okay. enough XXXX, can

Marcus Lemonis

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of of Some $XXX EBITDA an six the $XX that the were had the we revenue million. example, today, stores stores Gander have of first branded for approximately and months, contribution for roughly million that

months goals, margin EBITDA are doesn't our some overall While stores of company than that less XX meet those old.

get the five that And we last newer three so, confidence has the stores Greenfield us of which to years. given acquisitions and a XX-year over doing we're our openings next built to maturing, to back years to eight few the getting combination in making

other not prepared We also a we're number initiatives today. to of disclose have that

the So are we larger us going company share overall believe of a customer. strategy our change wallet for will to which digital the dramatically for give

Operator

And KeyBanc, have from we Andress. Brett

Brett Andress

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Marcus Lemonis

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Brett Andress

air then has off multi-year a I Thank And that to XXXX. happened what just fair, thinking that is an perspective? going to the the demand that that in all using do travel analogue that mean, the compared around about put I sense. - makes is And growth so you. guess think your mean, question, just I trying of timeframe do have it environment of Yes, that forward. history of you that sustainability that context been in building this September business did around caused - for this disruption you

Marcus Lemonis

interesting last is, think, last same-store market out, than February. over odd over on months find the we were grabbed months. But several The percentage what statistic the sales pointed Nelson number lower I that as basis Rick we share significant actually you'll is January several have and in those trending a

strength fantastic so, our really COVID. that year important a our were And it's and business that headed solid note was for we very believe of to we absent

moment think two in of X.X% May time about the I April dip then to the claw X.X%. we're and same-store think were we July and and our XX%. first half and dip you the March at June the include probably backs, I and from in you closer when months that or when numbers year, look up the And

to been back haven't ton levels market to and that even us we able the of So, February, in even get grabbing we a were share. January with

the as to going could right but everybody our market I it is that after was successful us will share pressing our So had SG&A the Company were going a into there. there. relates not margins we and gas is sized, market sheet what We the our else get or balance share believe When is after the our the in to growth, me that overdrive expect we to compromise digital we've think put we market now and know strategy retreating, quarter catbird seat. put

Brett Andress

I Maybe guess do my business more around did what around X/XX? just was your context. question historical

Marcus Lemonis

as company. then a back exist didn't We

So have I any don't comments.

Operator

Brett we Jefferies, Jordan. from on Moving have

Brett Jordan

inventory year, a you you customers Do you product, lot be what are the for was interested may to seasonality given you COVID strong hold talking not the think When normally this into think holding or seeing that enough really winter buying demand and that pretty being in manufacturers will justify inventory about obviously, season going about of season? are this period? fall off Or are a just waiting backlogs. extended more significant not seasonally

Marcus Lemonis

try to to can. as want this I best answer I

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than So equal as or go they time same the year last at would greater levels at a the to into fall. our we minimum, we were to stocking expect be

We are with size prepared be comfortable manufacturers today that year. put and us our us makes our next we a will have prepared and and the relationships 'XX be in position for and that prepared will leverage our very

Brett Jordan

follow-up to And comp a your then comments. trend

is decelerated a a two were of more I is shortage plus the -- first the it have recently. that, What issue? see You XX% a of cause lower and months to X% rate in do you expect or down inventory being plus then at would conversion

Marcus Lemonis

is Neither was right. a of forgetting April those. What that everybody absolute disaster, is

about an some end. up realistic plus for following And plus plus were want and in to some April some XX%, call stats there at in small we When of of. know But space were locking look you number was players big coming has markets. was XX%. first the up you talking look the XX% we numbers That and at been a be out very world days XX%, provided April XX XX%, the down so to literally XX% the plus things the our XX, to month, when and that days by

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in XX was number disaster of the the factors absolute first days that plus Our April.

Brett Jordan

if at should the January, we be So to just COVID look May-June, would the comp February right? than it higher demand? comp trend, So - trend benefit

Marcus Lemonis

that No, demand sir. argue I could was delayed. that

Operator

We'll Johnson move with onto BMO Gerrick Capital Markets.

Gerrick Johnson

I it was just hoping you could membership bit. like talk about role, the Good looks little a Sam dropped

on So what's going there?

Marcus Lemonis

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basis, X%. you number at same-store when markets on And exited, out a in actually we the when we our about the same-file up on so look extract today basis, a we're stores

Gerrick Johnson

for Marcus. clarification, Thanks. Okay. Thank you the

Marcus Lemonis

sir. Yes,

Operator

will come Baird. Next question with Craig from Kennison

Craig Kennison

Thanks, to on how expected and Marcus, of something better those for called on SG&A Is terms found than Question, the be? any light line, out shed you much congratulations, your sustainable way expense Karin. and and you efficiencies where there you in efficiency. we would Karin,

Karin Bell

we've our that substantially in things advertising that reach of is advertising, the our as digitization and looking That's less traditional about versus processes to at, some help Marcus a of and good talking our was the been customers, question. money. mean I

been change. we've been have some that hired people and most So but as at, technology, those looking that a in mentioned, big There some were I compensation the changes, was advertising. related been very to avenues have of in there changes and other mostly quarter

Marcus Lemonis

added draconian 'XX, Karin with felt let was the direct it. were back Craig, And accretive only organization we a the going XXXX, to than out me of that to more to be half in got you. we candid way we we flattened In as quite into about things be us. be that

which seeing people's their And had results were an of pay of the that significant to a you we XX year, us. to on on. so from when basis, that's points their you're or frankly, big profitability cost We save was contribution levels, individual that at. our got and quite get on range - but locations know for made annualized our highest on to XX, and that be structure not points. big people pulled reimagination and with of levers to to is the We were want to need what looking the to expense, XX% We better we're clearly We went year-to-date that we will ensure a contributor. of number, and individual we for be mindset at in the eradicated quarter by performance-driven productivity pay shifted. our inventory We sense how a that performing, have tightened look variability down basis, quarter, of and do level high floorplan reimagination and to our return we continue re-figured our we sort performing away to

business gross levers to in are and margin our auto EBITDA our the service this those our even only margins. standpoint. things of look not Sam this with margins of a including itself opportunities is opportunity unbelievable margins function Good everybody, to number can't that margins expense control, the out out I SG&A, business, expectations. those you is most margin Craig, solid gross plus as that combined you profitable I you save your from the give think ensuring needs public come the way kinds half our at EBITDA don't mean, with that know, is separate from the us margin line and an of that of there expense of control a One profit, XX%

Craig Kennison

done to that of seeing, on the if change consumer audience? that's based larger other come type any then follow-up, or guess, traffic demand the pandemic because a Just attract been of or I is And sales? profile to a demographic just as different of your to just in you're a there curious you're seeing work

Marcus Lemonis

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Operator

Next we Suisse. Credit with have Seth Sigman

Seth Sigman

the taking for Thanks question.

context now of is, X.X%? you stronger My sales has up demand slowdown unit or April. there So demand well. as of in you're missing looks X.X% I same and that now. tracking like are in question year-to-date. that was on do follow do March sales think wanted like It it out like come It store up up still you sounds feel caught Obviously, up that the to early you've

Marcus Lemonis

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Seth Sigman

I -- think release the the thing, that year-to-date, but obviously, sales on six-month trend same-store unit up I'm says at the unless, wrong based mean, I looking were X.X% that

Marcus Lemonis

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be dealers may And generate get to so cash. away willing there who product other are start we as into to giving winter

have market months We demonstrated to business cash. to we plan. to stick enough year. of the in will share we have believe six our like we We take the want continue first But still

Seth Sigman

sounds little seeing sales some guess is have could would factors. a the may I in than right, of it could seasonally it typically those And your some just that some strength QX So be because you're like that of of of view been be bit this the better delayed July, those and sales? deferred,

Marcus Lemonis

Yes.

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Seth Sigman

Right.

just on update on just have think estate about back then, strategy follow-up us And XX. a time the And you but growth, I you changes could Okay. a the to selection whether that? missed made if real the sort you've eight it, to to did for us growth? may you any give then Thanks. of getting as accelerating store line

Marcus Lemonis

Company So consistent we after to we we see public. that, what XXXX, several why in to for wouldn't XXXX, we we don't all pause eight do to stores any expect the right now the way did like ready our years XXXX, up to started with and that took we our process for when in out. the refocused. XX felt reason get size right a needed day We because size We're balance we went and sheet, for back add

can acquisitions. looking have that real tell want LOIs on at estate bay, discussions at with of keep our or competitors in terms In to we strategy, we you final either I of estate our because LOIs signed are real

will having in controls that, be our of to unless And course, normal everybody the opinion us on those our in plan outside in but that. something XXXX, year could and we after market changes every of so announcing eight XX

Operator

next Conder with Wells And from comes Tim question Fargo.

Tim Conder

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Marcus Lemonis

trade industry is our have active our resources a the national couple dollars the with used and have bank people hundred database. complicated in a center, call we The lot that customers with million and million actually X of desk, in pretty metrics our of with a don't with

our cost of of because so competitors we're just that, those I lower traditional to able And because of that points to acquisition a compared mentioned. unit used of our

the mostly to into buy go still consign, transport angle, all will relegated and For them materially they're on why to margins to still and try try example, are we will to them, a to dealer avoid auctions fees traditional our curb, which costs better. buy but that they is at buying and paying fees

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Operator

from [Operator of Instructions] Next we have America, John Bank Lovallo.

John Lovallo

as Thank for you this taking well my questions evening.

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Marcus Lemonis

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John Lovallo

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Operator

move And with JPMorgan. next Ryan Brinkman to we'll

Ryan Brinkman

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Operator

to closing question-and-answer to additional Lemonis gentlemen, Mr. conclude the our ladies does for right, floor I'd All remarks. session. or back that any like turn

Marcus Lemonis

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Operator

our And does once for today. us. Thanks again for that again, conclude call joining gentlemen, ladies,

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Camping World (CWH) 6 Aug 202020 Q2 Earnings call transcript