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Operator

Greetings and welcome to Schneider National 2018 Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Pat Costello. sir. ahead, go Please

Pat Costello

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Chris Lofgren

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Mark Rourke

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Steve Bruffett

intermodal you, and some adjusted with fourth it basis, our our year logistics might our logistics XX% and million XXXX, X provide for while and the record Starting improved our quarter, operations and with XX% commentary fourth XXX grew in important fuel, full and income X% fourth be contributed over driver by when XX% our for the line level When environment. in Intermodal any for of last And business to provided XX% and a quarter year with of was the On fourth provide quarter ongoing increasing full the XX% and and and quarter income of Thank million reflecting revenue by while items operations Truckload intermodal results from intuitive. quarter everyone. million. our quarter and quarterly or XXXX. constrained XX% for as truckload portfolio enterprise to operating year, increased year, good themes XX% a which recap begin grew Adjusted logistics results, of context, full Mark Truckload XX% was reviewing XX%. remain the each fourth year's and profitability. I'll morning, not with primary costs, XX% quarter parts revenue, top duplicate our from the Consistent of chassis X% then grew intermodal of Mark full I'd financial improved to the XX% story. year. All XX%, the that improved for a the on year. revenue throughout from in logistics adjusting segments XX% mentioned growth. fourth XXXX. of XXX in operating like fourth majority the mix in the XXX for the the excluding

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equipment tranche balance [indiscernible] in million balance Also, of December and so XXX million were the it’s privately $XX purchases XX. million were XXXX XXX further Regarding of to of identical CapEx current in as and securities higher by we reflected XXXX in cash marketable over on sales net our investing by XXXX. lower increased than at million maturities XX sheet. The course maturing XXXX. reduced XXX incrementally from in to million totaled our in virtually XXX our those proceeds We strengthened XXXX, XXX debt year-end a million. and placed was XX of the have of million activities, November million was therefore XXXX debt, sheet

that’s rate represents slightly XX% guidance the items and between of discrete plans opportunities top before expect our tax a note we EPS comments increase however, note. maturity, before this year be and present or for continuation repay to carrier monitor investment with which assumes lower year supply. midpoint adjusted concluding on growth our of Also, to XXXX, a constructive the $X.XX, approximately the This to full modest we XXXX. in to the Continuing diluted Our a our repay guidance now record economic potential shipper of rate and year than about refinance is balance environment interest profitability. full at XX.X% XXXX are will $X.XX of forward-looking and demand whether

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of bring conditions and on our market is the services, achieving challenges look yet, $X as it such allocation in to to emphasize rewarding leveraging effectively record opportunities the annual is a Quest capital will XXXX recap, was for milestones flow on logistics continue pause to the navigated disciplines, our and enabled business fluctuating all themes, that a forward So strong generation moment the portfolio XXXX and to through and XXX free year we technology. to revenue, celebrate we earnings, focus a present and and million billion future resiliency and through core as by cycles of cash we

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Chris Lofgren

With questions. lines that, we will operator, open up the for

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Tom Wadewitz with UBS.

Tom Wadewitz

congratulations and his up. on Pat Good morning to retirement coming

you you kind in higher contract kind Intermodal gave you then Let's truckload, much economy, on do how truckload for see, that market, bid about and party for season balance and I views. some the also in outcome comments maybe those both conviction and view the think the outcome of and constructive how think do third on of have

Chris Lofgren

Mark. Go ahead,

Mark Rourke

in quarter. quarter particularly is of both quarter, earlier We standard the continued renewal what of on I coverage was in again constructive This solid very most the solid Tom. fourth busy the the through are hire seen solid Intermodal the our acceptance, in think as we off and mentioned networks specialty an year, looking and second from it's the not offering time quarter as it half coverage in shippers we what of in I as is morning, for renewal standpoint. that Good third opening Mark. generally and equipment my and have is which and very, second performance early order a of performance a period for assess come but very across comments,

organization. bit level the a the confidence, the spot standpoint and will head contract parties sign, markets price efficiently continue little as I factor focused think XXXX. again certainly a we a into pretty what so on right XXXX operating to where on they but and such getting rational, reset now has give Obviously because point are particularly stabilization to us of I it’s we're are want market, and that's the good more So those contract

Tom Wadewitz

whether your So intermodal do and kind in their can competitors it than area be I will be digits, guess stronger kind be mid truck. the they around you think said, one of is it maybe truck same pricing low or you intermodal maybe put numbers for of what think model would is and and best the could of single

Steve Bruffett

Yeah.

I think that we're digit gauging than better range. think configurations that. to be right will a there certain now mid-single do lane I intermodal do could within

I -- mid-single strength benchmark. a and so alternatives network, good digits upon is based but Just in think the

Tom Wadewitz

And then you've a first it why to anticipation XXXX, reducing have you loss truckload in don’t about like maybe we quick a final. of think seems margin just -- second in one,

that pricing, the to truckload to XXXX? be would could help margin if that which tailwind to or reasonable you improves think margin conducive would a best expansion. mid-single should a have that be you on before So how still Is seem look margin

Chris Lofgren

went a and are That'll through growth in of one expect performing believe better the and we third be have the and seen reallocate catalysts quarter, of in to is improvements that we supply probably bit exercise dynamic, reshaping the financial to the in a we and configurations the XXXX. but two you you the that fourth that hit demand what awards XXXX function dedicated

our that the three think be to constructive areas I are would margin those So profile.

Operator

with comes Stephens. question from next the Our of line Delco Brad

Brad Delco

quarter to challenges. kind the around your have strong, at of and X results you on ask yet Wanted of turned on north slightly a These service rail are box Intermodal. or commented of quite kind turns

if you rail outlook in what there expectations two, PSR opportunities service us XXXX? if then what better two and does from for get turns from So give questions here, any disruption you can on have are box an

Chris Lofgren

have put efforts the and move we point equipment, into component the is intermodal own of chassis to transform I to the acknowledge to One our is that really things of cost that at effective one Brad, has which clearly have this a trying that street, we is be think Well, be effective us offering. private our key the the the on helped structure.

and this really last to We to early company in worked part design area that add of year. hard driver had have we all the that was

to of we for this it, in when transformed lens. pretty to business we it, and about that is as with continue so it's pleased look think set of things what operating we'll a and well I major, turns, that what this to network. you at pressure. has think arctic good We're is this I a I to ready is now, have cold moved through in can kind you So, of you're cliff And, mean, some that going we're think tighten here. have in business up under with invest mean, think a point. interchange positioned major It's out to lot of going see to be expect I January clearly, into in, Chicago, particularly a see Chicago

So, we with do, whether allows have have try They those and through always in impacts this to work lot of will as can. and precision efforts. we have challenges main as to the as they been engage disasters be the those on a terms in it's railroads natural our end, our with fast railroads us forest of feet ability fires or that the railroading, to

turns, environment of I invest how can add significant of we're today, Mark he about think see wouldn't the managing and if the are kind things opportunities expect and we where given we it see in to challenges. to in to the, maybe And I'll just itself. to And Quest turn doing box that over so terms

Mark Rourke

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to way that others where some as to we in I some and to in us anticipate effectively. we've of chaos we're that go bit little where very and perhaps, process, sense And that some had worked rerouting that keeping we'll growth some because the know road do you through be of know be changes does, and there's for so as the mentioned see forward, advantage conversion solution. of opportunities weathered we believe arise opportunities a would take going But going we Kings we are, opportunities out tension over create of part help intermodal ready the to of think to changes it those will occur, marketplace that bit that makes know the a it very, as the and get we find we

Brad Delco

Maybe follow Steve. for up a quick

allocation of You mentioned some capital grow. to

intermodal for, an said can of idea and dedicated, way ‘XX. growth of type there us what any looking You you're container but for is you provide

Chris Lofgren

in plus We or what commentary be We provide a was to we in and number. it. some at to about containers ’XX, of can be color not anticipate considerably still the XXXX in grew Sure. would rate on it total constructive XXXX it's in XXXX see XX,XXX growth

all say XXXX to whereas more while at of dedicated and allocated the its XXXX. was service intermodal split fleet you if is in intermodal amount we're between in reconfiguring offering allocation chassis growth our it container almost evenly it's way at growth and we Another and growth XXXX, dedicated in look capital the total for have it

Operator

question from comes of Ben Baird. with the Our Hartford next line

Ben Hartford

to of customer ramp and his anticipating activity side seasonal about Chinese talk sort you're New point congratulations of terms time? in balance on this levels echo the XQ, maybe in import I at forward in pull just inventory conjunction at on in Year that, on are XQ March and Pat maybe in of other the any and context looking with Mark, of what quarter the how and the you retirement. to inventory fourth perspective some

Mark Rourke

been solid what It's we We're just always get place to it's of We a that. all January volumes, been is very and look some because of insight Obviously, not of know October, had get better feel every to understanding has the a we understand the bit that, of but been good. difficult December completely the as to challenges more for good do start very, terrible real and Ben. solid. can and Yeah, searching easy weather volumes forward. November

that we're well, we upon perfect Chinese as we that positive thing But New insight that we really like what some don't is other anything great into is, segment, with we share there just we specific think And that and have got but the say guess have take didn't are have so here, our that year Year I opportunities but what their or up intermodal. to advantage what I wherever we piece, that I all about looks more the boxes to had the growth there, are based of to just -- upon just there full and railroads impacts on what we the based segments across see of for also have the we've coming include confident the have available in the don't. see we to unfortunately. fourth, you

Ben Hartford

if you could back margins, come first the final changes that then specifically And I truckload point on had referenced. to mile to the

in quarter that'll you to producing execution first any quarter you had is balance breakeven, end timing terms on be are a mile a the the by something of not is the of year, when be it final think at you obviously be the course first the it will a to running of from that operating mile drag final year take through first of this here, XXXX when said end I in of an other full thoughts be before ago won't or throughout standpoint, the to the expect losses first can complete losses? EBIT words,

Chris Lofgren

question. I'll answer Great Steve that. let

Steve Bruffett

Ben. Sure,

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during implementing of operational changes some objective at profitability we're those customer of Mark achieve said. half a of fully be as to changes second The point primary the experience. and well-planned timeline, mindful should year, March So while of implemented by that commercial is the series being the

play loss So from expect in to for lift especially this the progress clarify move little us however evolving well year, they mile, a would still we ‘XX implementing steady half the space. the to given model that in second the we first year trajectory the losses full as in business and operating then of that as we final through bit, and to how anticipate year an expected out changes we we're forward taper, the of position

Operator

next question Ravi from line Stanley. of Our comes from the Morgan Shanker

Ravi Shanker

good for and thanks luck, well. And Pat help as the

that question as a relationship your Just customer some is little you maybe of about bit just couple spoke ’XX? with reports is, there elaborate a a that that in media on change One were can as couple a Wal-Mart closures here. facility well, to and and going on a be a of drag numbers in

Chris Lofgren

that a large very is and has is give that color that very customer, them clearly, been really opportunities to Wal-Mart customer there's we and the things of really then really, large have things that a around that deliver what start we want let Ravi, for carry terms I'll costs some do Mark the they Well, those just that willing it on and for we and with sort there up we how and of kind to are of to didn't us service to in pay frankly have it. were like match

can absolutely interests. will we So do where they in that best just their and done work we you says, and things the that look, the best an do throughout year that we serve there execute to like understanding that was some with

doing, it great, want that frankly in think we're the we to of positions it's where Wal-Mart, and I do. things them us terms we're I with So, think with doing things

course the we're some more actually positive to things through outcome any So, you year if a add that? I them. it Mark, set good would do for up to say and was to want of the

Mark Rourke

around of that’s logistics transpired core outsource that's not that centers XXXX. the what warehouse in value source servicing related, transportation think here our one a versus in it’s decision areas service early and specific and I question was added to functions decision

Ravi Shanker

said you in one just And truckload sneak both of it both up, call range the high are and intermodal, if in mid I the running for range is way in digit single for renewals that same can follow Mark, to the them? one

Mark Rourke

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So of that and of side the has range part range the intermodal. more the mid been upper the

Ravi Shanker

your high single Are talking surprised of bigger pricing in ’XX? one intermodal you that competitors digit about for

Mark Rourke

but the again lanes and there, I won't for competitor's do of is and on bit that length be a network based comment certain to what would upon other haul, of comment higher. a there opportunity we we alternatives that believe expect on

that our no, be would So take.

Operator

question comes of from the Allison next Suisse. Landry Credit Our line with

Allison Landry

Wanted get inflation wage tracked on your or the inflation what in and bit little XXXX? are all driver fourth cost quarter of to color your in expectations for where a

Steve Bruffett

This is Steve, Allison.

haven't timing Just us we that to in expense meat somewhat of that, they’re XXXX. category generally X% will anything, general the assumptions for probably expense costs our the exact are and while overall flat depending some of outliers, determined of similar be and on others speaking always in to inflation to cost we there's you throughout XXXX, range. if but and X.X% lines, will an down than probably look our in what more be expectation Would for be up experienced the that's at range,

Allison Landry

there? bit And was what inflation then a whether hikes, wage little can you give us on -- drivers, granularity it's but like specifically of the recruiting, for

Chris Lofgren

those opportunities in the structures Mark Well, be lot dedicated are Again where answer Those driven of stand dependent get a we the on operations. in up that to cost find question configurations. said focused regions so with the that which to wins. that Allison, growth have those we we in upon will dedicated by truck side our going is

of kind of its that aggregate, degree would that's for difficult question a answer so us And to to at be a accuracy.

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friendly by as thing. increases the to not drivers mile just defined rebidding our to we is ability opposed merely that miles per as contribution to So the and it's, to our that pay think we network, getting our as our frankly going a renewal inflate was that of chase to more ’XX, driver of load ways did really of trying a lot the or work get freight was of kind turn part truck about because per drivers, extreme, contribution to of managing asset, in our to find fits wage talked per which them hiring, we're is we trying to this through freight frankly

in executed I'm and expecting how be we look how on approaching would I kinds increases will to of at front. So we ‘XX the driver consistent think not so ‘XX exorbitant

Mark Rourke

driver that in in to recruiting to did disciplines cost further add incur little that just bit we we the did, XXXX. a mentioned, with And Chris up a and so even that on step

this and at how to ‘XX. at plateauing of effort a we in compensation is know but point best expectations there, Our amount more plateau piece Chris Still driver expense and this that point. we're a answered of the in probably considerable involved that

Allison Landry

business, could And expectations changed question, and and have my as that of time maybe since expectations a growth then about you the if follow then your talk first you those in term just up profitability at acquisitions changed specifically what bit internal the all? long to mile, about of this maybe final if made challenges little the the

Chris Lofgren

include those And get all traditional and where vendor just modes and consumer as the a deployed, either became is the so that we assets trying on cost and largely that end-to-end as was not those final having customers keep different using serve, but of out on was pieces start the it's as or process. acquisitions to where around acquisitions acquisition. maintain sufficient, not employee or strengths apparent through certainly consumer's our more work but to changes the behavior much that continuing couple of in the its parties build trend, along through our meant that of our our the with customers to, channel to literally, around brick mile Schneider and centered that part needed internally e-commerce start home. had we're and with of follow strategy to is balance where port models first have what’s through we're the with different really changed themselves other term use first comes and going going and part help the I’ll and longer execute were strategy. so to parts and The a a of to since strategy, paid pieces that recasting multiple attempt to that Allison, may what experience to against comes to inability are way may we to What that to after mortar which experience were we customer to of the around we while ultimately third the a to centering the from getting a unique transparency acquisitions a impact and process from transportation

on where perhaps and a profitability. relative is a e-comm customer ultimately market have have it’s financial get with that of just can that differentiation trend created, that our pleased difference do impacts at you, to probably that change. so but bulky to to the from standpoint, makes and We and we sense and were items bit don't where could the it's that any really relative and recast trends we point return price what to see a at we accept the for So, of ability the and big a ahead those level to

Operator

Citigroup. comes Our with the Chris of from next question Wetherbee line

Chris Wetherbee

of I if deploying the able fleet what think of business, about size assets. there on you sort ask and in truckload specific of sort Pat. incremental looks do the of truckload congrats might that the anything you there is sort in broad to wanted terms And to be in business, XXXX interesting more

Mark Rourke

and dedicated and the there. in that the good and take went right series Certainly. we sure is making Mark that. We’ve spent had a changes XXXX our right portion This we through business mix configurations I'll of a of

in that of being would We’re one configurations. of for we we're more we really to truck and over drive dedicated an we're configuration more our kind size assets, think will mean things and over van, being in we enthused whether into we're or the it way standard bulk arena those be about be be be about that a that random that mix or fleet would like of but of and us our doing excited pipeline our kind and network, regard, where dedicated, reshaping that doesn't assets there, that dedicated whether specialty not so will are XXXX maintain time on our inflection deployed markets would growth in relative in our seeing markets, truck be of that of thinking point XXXX that in in more excited

Chris Wetherbee

that truckload, obviously dedicated specific So but there across in growth is configurations.

Mark Rourke

about think Yeah. it. It's how I

Chris Wetherbee

up of and then And sure in as I to into we XXXX of the guidance. the I make move the projections, that, follow sort context trying guess growth to I'm as understand a

little stands in if sort that freight a what Can So, I’m bit from several of some will, growth, course the specific final the of losses all the of of It see business of the and that favorable relatively quite areas. XXXX. we've with just of like more maybe rate I mile you will and is first to side environment grew as a in bit it there you now, pace intermodal slower been particularly incremental us sort know is still help moving the to bit growth mature of a obviously understand maybe bit to right a may parts seems last square of you a the margins that trying in lower to out some headwind, deceleration what a a quarters. little ’XX, on able be the over get see than it's the

Mark Rourke

in experience XXXX had like and of intermodal the top general considerable rate some the will now incremental find step at that, to margin hit depend there's continuing margins like of in our of ranging on the The will logistics, into what's and like more margin, ourselves the see amongst growth segments on growth margins looking a we incremental incremental variance a probably moderate and as anniversary nature an part XX% a business, between of from quite bit, we and did incremental that truckload are at of and level that, so particularly incremental segment. the versus your ultimately What XX% question in that's because to XXXX, up that we the to quarterly margins moving so line enterprise expansion there's in earnings move margins contributing intermodal environment XX% I'd growth various our and this. the to margin date in ahead intermodal forward, we've and we in that in intermodal, XX% the playing us target

So that our of the rate to we the answer of of the on like an part is, growth in incremental depends capture positioned it mix move we're feel margin well forward. we as portfolio

Operator

Stifel. the Our from next David Ross question from comes line of

David Ross

guess and XX loss the line big you loss was to it the range. talked be is Steve, a guidance, more to on to EBIT as X XX that you XXXX that rate up follow I what million one million million in about, swing assumed or but million from do year-over-year your our is modeling X the expect some what other time, the of run out in little that

Steve Bruffett

segment On a easier to are because full maybe lot the talk basis, about moving year in of other there an there. parts way a

other Asia Our numerous on our insurance and our so captive business operations, leasing and items. and

probably could that of but flow XX we number variability exactly through just will to there it's be in time, million we're that we collectively, know going annual that thinking items segment. the within million, where little at land, quarterly to XX a that this to best know So, other of be given terms understanding hard number,

David Ross

the And bit much on not year, than intermodal you XXXX the on plans, container growth do just XXXX, less containers, this to count? containers. then more year Is guess to you past a the XXXX end so as said where as expect get little I color it

Chris Lofgren

I really is there of two that. components think

It the that. I we've to add deployment additional growth half got of second but capital delivery to, that into use be container expect into to box year that that, full the would element take Steve’s we wouldn’t of containers gives advantage going to but are lift earlier to we've the going every we comments, other XXXX taken of took level. haven't the it's will half of first be expect year of and at prepared the anniversary us short so We gotten that, of well throughout delivery some the that and of that be and we

Operator

Morgan. Our Brian with line Ossenbeck J.P. next of the from question comes

Brian Ossenbeck

dedicated the and really so that's based as stings do you really not new, cycle open evident the will in a be more on or level different are about contract more but continues slow? in transactional a to think interest increases talked partnerships bit relationship market So last materially considering mindset one the shippers you anything you sustainable here, spot next do this to back past, the think is to choice and change of to the

Mark Rourke

It’s dollar always, I guess, a question. million

play shipper component their experience processes, community and driver improve profession. sensitivity the through excited about high marks retain a role experience that support of would characteristics the that I very, they we the the and just of is their can either that people freight the carrier end this give driver noble that the whole to large to things works how One the we have and to can end their attract, get to through very feels relative community, extremely that

uncertainty why partners being this we're the little the of coming change working that together the I real organizations the that of perhaps more the and being, and I more a there traction a of bit being ability and bit XXXX, from and of through there's on difficult in think a more again down bullish performance that's there does it for cost longer cycle, step comes difficult, the come if won’t there, perhaps all-party slant, C the so that the of we’re be doesn't visibility in experience change, from the particularly of kind of but suite of more interest, a a on because bit that of until out, level until channel mind, and I think shipper is think an we'll level – my And angles of but within – a acceptance more that term multiple see where of is been meaningful a I'm choice, a create it's they're tested, optimistic equation, mean bit best a tested, view, partnership different that's there there's that pressures but

Chris Lofgren

Brian, Chris. is this

in it's rules. and whether spot manufacturing coming things sort of trailer I that will end the know across out these of them, many the degree big but -- data but that’s to massive in the or whether like are of inbound market chain that, competitors that, centers, reality distribution dynamically or the things most the to trailer that North it's shippers coming into play those of One available of them, very of play of which who rate supply our out America, is of they're taking vary pools we out and spot and that the something is companies, things

chains revenue large the significant us think driver those in to an increase that of that is, if to an they're isn't you recognize to at lot just things that not rate part kind I and from reflective contract of pressures is the there that isn't that see again and contract is the rate, customer’s this hard moving positioned there we've of don't into the at this every this always day I rarely to rate dynamic particular of and you a our was the helps increases so with work, it we respond playing is, so but is it's move pay the spot about I environment you talk know relationships year but is that is thing just particularly kind element and happen market that. because to important see playing reality or the more the in environment, of So market and not, following reason price think the increase same equipment freight we net market base in level about a that's way where that point spot about sustainable the the think bulk rate rate some come was spot an that supply where of their changes. where

Brian Ossenbeck

Just follow or Steve more first much XXXX done you've has a that with those there up, pretty needed reshaping, quantify can way dedicated to quick one is any you be on of the very are that actions and run impact, there the into to what course? to are any similar mile taken its final

Steve Bruffett

opportunities say that those the to and harvest I XXXX you in to XXXX. opportunities guess the impact is specific have dedicated a with additional achieved about provide during reconfigurations pipeline don't have margin what on I'd one. number in we I we’ll desired continue that to

Operator

from with line Group of Wolfe Our next the Scott Research. question comes

Scott Group

market, fuel so going a go hearing intermodal and things, that spot more about intermodal a you prolonged or is might from start of it little some is suggest couple impact just terms here, to So, are the of truckload to impact a are if than in I you want truckload we see maybe up then think have shippers little higher seeing guys do of thinking you and down could shift to from how Mark anything rates? bit, a weather bit pricing just

Chris Lofgren

but growth part that, there. XXXX lot value first there of don't that and discovery our intermodal activity certainly of in of a of or The great through a Scott, a We numbers was of good pressures we think on the I changes reflective lanes some see posted there to road. railroads shift on deal the discussion a looking the over customer driving making the are that Obviously, of are that, some customers availability with of of are that not back out desire. are

circumstance of I any of materiality – of my of top I a there. a really out single think head, can't And really so the

to there. from an So, report in have there's, whether extended the And recovery at there's it's no times. vortex channel and chaos and partners part I of learned a this that the based least think those during change of to juncture, came difficult all impact obviously, that XXXX, or engaged at additional through of second January, flows then at have we real how was period there all expect we are the or the these manage and switch would partners polar quicker been heaters where learnings deployed just and upon invested

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Scott Group

is margin double it's you for just just it assume improvement guidance, contemplate year front say terms more this or similar earnings growth intermodal the think then does guidance year, for half do year you back the the Steve, then of or half. can And the in and throughout the digit

Steve Bruffett

for pretty a first gain a where and function intermodal forward change efforts of took so and earnings in in that margins, and indicated without second part margins through we is opportunity than in the the me, forward so The margin going we're large our was business words, XXXX. for largely, becomes is largely that's -- in – on giving specific, we’ve the about of your volume segment the the our in going Intermodal step expansion our growth it and question less other XXXX targeting a pardon part growing it of more And question maintenance so

Scott Group

styles cadence to of for year, and double the digit similar the is year? the sort earnings it Just

Steve Bruffett

probably into the basis given perhaps more we to, the go, through improvement just on tougher quarterly the our relative without guidance, comparing as in front we we XXXX, our loaded. it year, is see steady Again parts that are strengthened space opportunity we're now comps get went through the upside right Right. year, first a of we expectations as end there naturally getting what so steadily of will bit as but we a relatively as go

Operator

comes question Hoexter Our of Ken line of final the from Bank with America.

Ken Hoexter

to just versus and executing view thanks Burlington for sizeable for your your end for say IPO. the question since within that Mark, that have maybe to that how as the help customer operational -- on PSR, a on of you converting precision returning Pat lane over for operate CSX the difference you customer the thoughts and is and convert converted changes railroads, the cuts just And and between customers. rail over point a to as have resist ultimately the

Mark Rourke

on two on is tenet parts, options key routings, lanes more good on that's is well, think actually that the lower I was volume and schedule certainly of relative volume I we of impact it and because different better. unpack railroading that managed the so to customer. lanes with precision really impact is the to think the through try inefficient the lanes the really and than which There I’ll consider what to got limiting, communication the key with number but

that help so of a we're to solid excited will solid it’s that's though through lower in think long be the have as behind implemented, the good focused catalyst that's transcon best we perhaps certainly same a I improvements are lanes execution points eastern and improve were didn't changes issues and we them over we're communication say portion volume the and our I and a volume of we on what's their could to get can low multiple partner Western would as the what and the our that that our performance eliminated planning that just and thing, focused consider on our convert the the isn't front been so just in be on execution seeing about with of wouldn’t related seeing think presently. good maybe so practice. upon they many to confidence Ultimately the to of we're predictability more had customer really I things planning really really, can really the partner for that same gives the and As certainly that growth exceed based grow and business doing success will and road is many have term, intermodal we origin the

service overall will So, if better, improve. everybody though, do but think strength executes intermodal marketplace the whole I in offering the of the nothing

Ken Hoexter

intermodal Steve even, Chris intermodal then you just the talked And well, follow just the up about a side. the cost did on rates. about as Mark, guess on what I or renegotiations purchase or for transportation site step up the functions rails, are their focus yields your as contracts given the with on seeing intermodal, the cost on of we any side well.

Mark Rourke

is adjustments in mechanisms both nature we've in I that. relative where market Ken, contract term are there shared and the Our to of long made recognition that in focus is are recognizing there and stated is that directions think

and over long So, these these not step is but and things the based there's items, change at. nature upon time are these term happen a in in so market where function

Operator

gentlemen, Ladies call end the remarks. have Lofgren we of and session back I for reached turn to question-and-answer closing the and the to like would Chris

Chris Lofgren

wrap another it to the we've looking do a pretty the term get impact to us short good got was in year with quarter very will everybody dialing we'll in forward what guys you for work air, first through Well, the of arctic some up appreciate and year. and our outstanding and call following another here here good, we we're with

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Operator

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Schneider National (SNDR) 31 Jan 192018 Q4 Earnings call transcript