Angi (ANGI) 5 Nov 212021 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Mark Schneider	Head, IR
Joseph Levin	CEO & Director, IAC/InterActiveCorp
Oisin Hanrahan	CEO & Director
Neil Vogel	CEO, Dotdash
Cory Carpenter	JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Ross Sandler	Barclays Bank
John Blackledge	Cowen and Company
Brent Thill	Jefferies
Brian Fitzgerald	Wells Fargo Securities
Jason Helfstein	Oppenheimer
Ygal Arounian	Wedbush Securities
Daniel Salmon	BMO Capital Markets
Michael Ng	Goldman Sachs Group
Nicholas Jones	Citigroup
Justin Patterson	KeyBanc Capital Markets

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Mark Schneider

Good morning, everyone. Mark Schneider here, and welcome to the IAC and ANGI Inc. third quarter earnings presentation.

Joining me today is Joey Levin, CEO of IAC and Chairman of Angi; Oisin Hanrahan, CEO of Angi; and Neil Vogel, CEO of Dotdash. Similar to last quarter, supplemental to our quarterly earnings releases, IAC has published its quarterly shareholder letter.

reading letter be this not will the on shareholder call. We Investor currently of available is Relations on It the section IAC's website. I to Joey introductory the call a to turn we'll brief up then remarks, will few and it Q&A. to shortly make open over

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during releases, and of you and discuss set adjusted for the for SEC. Relations refer have section comparable call. these Some our also shareholder today our in certain of filings EBITDA non-GAAP material releases all been to forth reconciliations Investor We'll again we'll which which measures GAAP IAC for with as include non-GAAP the and all reminder, and the as a simplicity the Angi's measures, I'll also IAC press full websites to risks our refer respective EBITDA, measures. to third letter press quarter

into Joey? Now let's just jump right it.

Joseph Levin

Thanks, busy Mark. us, quarter joining usually Hello, Busy, everybody. Thanks as for they always. again for are. IAC as

businesses year. lot hoping is trying really place the we doing incredibly by is all-time didn't deep about. Vivian is -- revenue humming right get work talk Angi Oisin, and even now. the records, deal so course, which when we're but end I'm it everything still is to Care which sure Care long of doing anything got wasn't time exciting. can but at you know figure Daily our which great to Meredith making are all feeling on. We've are hope excited all the talk is on well. nicely, here, really well, in so had the the and headed. so really growing things from logistics announced that a -- It's and IAC. and we've and we going talk And have where right, And the well. growth growth businesses get been breaking talk a we records, rebrand. do Care.com deal, really about we a we Angi to lot today, in Beast right are And of are We locations And -- we about Bluecrew We're saw out yet, -- And again business services quarter. we're I'm but of different business hopefully, all a progress the And course, the we'll from a for Neil, nice last. close brought get along today to about we're little hitting other We big of all the we so good I could how Dotdash about we're about questions we

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Mark Schneider

Great.

first Cory from Our question will Carpenter at be JPMorgan.

Cory Carpenter

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Oisin Hanrahan

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about So expect we team. continue we're see as that's to there well how to build things to continue progress really the out going and excited really,

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Mark Schneider

Yes.

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question next Ross will our Sandler So be from Barclays. at

Ross Sandler

or Neil Meredith. on for Joey question A

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Neil Vogel

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Joseph Levin

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Neil Vogel

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Joseph Levin

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Mark Schneider

Great.

be Our John will question next Cowen. at Blackledge from

John Blackledge

post of Maybe How couple the IAC about the allocation Meredith a look questions and Joey. does update an of CFO kind maybe what on Joey, search? for deal? we think like capital should

Joseph Levin

Sure.

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have We also bit. a talked little this about -- a we've

warrant of expect to We exercise which would another respect potential use Turo point. have to that we with a cash, at some is

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Mark Schneider

Jefferies. Our next will question be at Brent from Thill

Brent Thill

has a a also easing growth an decelerating and been on Dotdash comp, comp. on the deceleration tough was October rate

from confidence And any the if the you Just organic they're curious growth. on tailwinds still provide sustainable an front? experiencing on commentary your can XX% IDFA

Neil Vogel

that. take I'll Sure,

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provided So the none changes of a headwind. have

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Mark Schneider

Yes.

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Brent Thill

side? And doing what through a really Joey follow-up that quick Can walk on search. for seeing well. just you're you on It's

Joseph Levin

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Mark Schneider

numbers just there. understand Brent, sort a to about help the the talk just to And trajectory little bit of you

total throughout for last again, X%. growth was which was year, So October. few QX and that over We XXX% quarter in forward. the down grew XX% XX% moderate in do months expect comps going with the QX in search Media, accelerating to QX, XX% Ask The XXXX, last

versus the we an So was comp easier in saw XXXX. QX XX% growth it that

do expect all doing healthy somewhat moderate to on Joey what into. we still things So went but the based and we're that

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the but marketing over that really against continue will the of that. of time tail dynamic So continuing you have to that but revenue no erode

profits So search, We at at healthy not but given levels the of profits that of expect seeing certainly QX jumped why is from seen at in long do search sort we've on what's continued term. the you're quarters. last going couple the Ask

we will at Brian go next Fargo. Fitzgerald our Wells to So question,

Brian Fitzgerald

CPG. to about share to a ask composition. is Wanted like helps categories you brand of female? On wallet it audience into complementarity Do think around speed, ask if tap audience Meredith, wanted the older, little the some about you've more talked you site the the in search, monetization. And

Neil Vogel

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Mark Schneider

question Helfstein will from at be Oppenheimer. next Jason Our

Jason Helfstein

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Mark Schneider

for question, we'll next Wedbush. our So Ygal to at go Arounian

Ygal Arounian

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Oisin Hanrahan

Great.

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Mark Schneider

Salmon question, Dan at to BMO. we'll next Our go

Daniel Salmon

back. just go first, want to I Maybe for Joey

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those unpack could why those as little just are and differentiators? you So through them X bit and more a important walk

Neil Vogel

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Joseph Levin

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Neil Vogel

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Joseph Levin

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Neil Vogel

this, Joey. I'm in deep

Joseph Levin

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Daniel Salmon

That's great. next We'll make done makeup for quarter. better sure we our have all

Joseph Levin

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Mark Schneider

be question from Goldman next Ng at will Our Sachs. Michael

Michael Ng

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Michael Ng

Angi Angi Pay and Key?

Oisin Hanrahan

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Mark Schneider

Nick Our question at be from will next Jones Citi.

Nicholas Jones

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Joseph Levin

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Mark Schneider

historically, Yes, X/X are we've we think nondiscretionary. I roughly said -- said

Joseph Levin

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Nicholas Jones

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Neil Vogel

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Mark Schneider

from Our next KeyBanc. at question Justin Patterson will be

Justin Patterson

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Mark Schneider

Great.

top the the of reached hour. we've think I

final any you thoughts? do have So Joey,

Joseph Levin

see for Thank it you That's us. next all joining Really and appreciate it. you quarter.

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