Angi (ANGI) 10 May 222022 Q1 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Mark Schneider	Head, Investor Relations
Chris Halpin	Chief Financial Officer
Joey Levin	Chief Executive Officer & Director, IAC/InterActiveCorp
Oisin Hanrahan	Chief Executive Officer
Neil Vogel	Chief Executive Officer, Dotdash Meredith
Ross Sandler	Barclays
John Blackledge	Cowen
Cory Carpenter	JPMorgan
Justin Patterson	KeyBanc
Jason Helfstein	Oppenheimer
Brian Fitzgerald	Wells Farg
Eric Sheridan	Goldman Sachs
Tom Champion	Piper Sandler
Ygal Arounian	Wedbush
Brent Thill	Jefferies
Brad Erickson	RBC

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Mark Schneider

During this presentation, we may discuss our outlook and future performance. These forward-looking statements typically may be preceded by words such as we expect, we believe, we anticipate or similar statements. These forward-looking views are subject to risks and uncertainties, and our actual results could differ materially from the views expressed today.

Some of these risks have been set forth in IAC and Angi Inc’s. first quarter press releases and our respective filings with the SEC. non-GAAP we'll as EBITDA refer during call. certain adjusted reminder, for discuss the which EBITDA, to also measures, a which include simplicity We'll today as shareholder to section Relations our measures. reconciliations websites GAAP releases, Please for the comparable of our all and refer again to you the also IAC measures letter for all and Investor non-GAAP press full material

Chris Halpin

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Mark Schneider

from Our question first is Ross at Sandler Barclays.

Ross Sandler

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Joey Levin

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Mark Schneider

Great.

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John Blackledge

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Joey Levin

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Chris Halpin

Go ahead.

Joey Levin

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Mark Schneider

at question Cory Carpenter will be next Our JPMorgan. from

Cory Carpenter

of the recap for off looking Thanks of to then rest And change two went be there about you. growth maybe for to your for then is thinking quarter year? Chris, expectations? versus And the opportunity how great with the it the would questions you're the start just any Oisin, question. how the forward

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Oisin Hanrahan

Thanks Cory.

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Joey Levin

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Mark Schneider

question Our be from will next Justin KeyBanc. Patterson at

Justin Patterson

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Neil Vogel

take first one. Thanks, I'll Justin. the

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Joey Levin

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Mark Schneider

is Helfstein question at Oppenheimer. from next Jason Our

Jason Helfstein

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Joey Levin

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Jason Helfstein

Thanks.

Mark Schneider

Our question Brian at next Fitzgerald from is Fargo. Wells

Brian Fitzgerald

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Neil Vogel

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Joey Levin

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Brian Fitzgerald

guys. Thanks

Mark Schneider

from Goldman Eric will question at be next Our Sachs. Sheridan

Eric Sheridan

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Joey Levin

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Mark Schneider

Champion Our next question at Sandler. will Tom be Piper from

Tom Champion

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Oisin Hanrahan

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Chris Halpin

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going And provider the there. so is adding element from and the there that expansion matching supply,

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team that We Tim are up. and it in are actively beta ramping and product

are innovation a to that that's also liquidity in as you excited but on make We there you marketplace both sides. would going sure any have to product be new We rollout. want the but is

as from care phase here. care So extensions the and really the really building up core foundation. are remediating two we this view enterprise and of after These issues the to grow historical

Mark Schneider

next Our question from will be Ygal at Arounian Wedbush.

Ygal Arounian

to investment on and Hey good with morning comment into guys. there. just categories in services new a expand peak past plans I'll start

is that how for you Just those and with with today. where on the peak it right plans months just then being Vivian does of things rest categories? you in about And years? Bluecrew on And we hit letter businesses on vision of It's clearly didn't Can now. coming the new and business for the you and where past are strongest one Joey investment? your are discussions there, where align expand go the talk those just of areas about Thanks. where

Oisin Hanrahan

get Sure. I'd in services first.

plus incredibly and accelerate Total backlog where Below And got we environment in services year-over-year had the we growth them. in expect straight as growth a far organic So that XXX% includes the have We've you particularly we incredibly an through projects larger this those at selling are a to rest in strong delivering year. rate are than faster in of services that have strong growth growth below. expect from services Angi my that in we four Roofing of perspective, organic and we quarters obviously acquisition. in

remodel So our in large it's projects backlog and is other in ever roofing in been the categories. biggest

that the feel really back services year of see we ongoing based that expect to about growth we good just in alone. on the half for the So

in to and optimization within we continue that how In efficient. terms flow, terms still have we that, make product in can addition that product we have terms terms Q&A conversion, we job more do places to the in flow of in the also more expose of And the allocation of of services.

have doing six, that In dollars the in services across -- investment some services. And years profit increase driven of services. April, We with to we in rate. we eight categories saw we've drive significant terms We've coming these of gross levers largely our dollars increases hit in seven, That take March for profitability ANGI. we said, peak helps by we been and significant even is within profit margin again us from towards know which for services, in March. gross as a

of high and renews path that know So we We get take and know of in optimize in these customer have some we in rate variable levels I very and high confidence can have refunds, the service costs to the we some very categories. the in credits et levels confidence to operations, that refunds, cetera.

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rate rate for feel in it. of year So in positive, the incredibly and the the confident we services path accelerating to the incredibly and on overall, profitability organic confident, of the growth rest growth

Joey Levin

to The not category peak expansion is going are momentum only and Oisin. investment, relative add I'd types thing, we've where forward you, to if margins of being the strongest. question job identified element the and services just Oisin's categories point, past to Thank relative and key anything is a

perhaps, -- more of broad but So it as categories, on will we in be those a prioritization are around placing set greater is. it's it

Chris Halpin

advantage we with which significant that in sort hope between It nursing, share, see they it employer listings is inefficient model, both And in Vivian, process The it's the health static well we're care. particular although, share agency very Bluecrew the matching Vivian is the a but a beyond in in and of. think probably a understand, and to in thanks when I in matching qualifications in employees, matching for the means a actually And more from Bluecrew goes model. there's which business listing, to which is thing dynamic question. the much and very -- but eventually business that candidate. they actually what is this. different binary. business employers On But engagement all evolution, is so and are they're -- future job easiest models, the take employing probably means of easiest job we understand workers that where going job It's to and fundamental

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not XX-hour So nine the work or week, historically. was whatever necessarily or typical it fit it need to five in

and match that interested tools, You they're customize way. can people using can our and in in that employers with indicate what

TAM, multiples so bigger, about, multiple that in the if hope. input sides staffing. we getting And at nurse the starting when real that total categories, across expand extended health – be billion And data we that technology, it as in other – And is key using and into are TAM. benefits started that we the that. beyond is both you of I data because the it jobs. absorbing a about But again, us now it's yield becomes expanded them the for multiple to a of on employers just can health to customers $XX billion think which travel can on Bluecrew in And ways care that to the can that when has Vivian look $XX of terms care, multiples become market get side,

both do And on nicely, optimistic those pretty businesses continue think grow of those they we we go. As very can we ingest better and we can matching, data, to with businesses. we're can grow job a where that and

Mark Schneider

Our at next question Thill Brent be from Jefferies. will

Brent Thill

are get the what next fares? gives for even And macro headwinds of many asking, the year? element a portfolio think stiffer defensive you the macro a if Generally, the how tougher rest in investors taper

Chris Halpin

last to tough onto it good that results. performs we probably and our performance, to kind Dotdash we we $X can across of very the Meredith now have dollars of advertisers look of process very And and all where know in from get history, of show in by for the as measure clearly all a we'll in a but to with And Dotdash we're go and the and our to is tie clearly. history environment, we the of Again, Dotdash prove business, what's $X Meredith. that have That businesses do that and measured migrating cut last performance Sure. is business – what where spend at can you of of – us all be – generally in performance. can the our platform, to start

to ought be – is that well-protected. that, think we so And reasonably

natural you Oisin chain, I change. in where a the think course, the environment things are very simply that But because start harder we – is very, Of a talked our We start gets, food bit, to strong to that already ads advertiser place, we see and a little bit Angi about regard, and little see the on opposite. you interest then the on increase ads the among almost is of professionals perform, data, in talked which leads is softens which the throughout in can service And which consumer retention. for we our in history, consumer go demand as of side goes the see hedge service in and is as down. sort direct business, service that in up requests our or demand which the the numbers revenue request sort accepts per

history XX%, here in will remember, in And we've jobs. Angi. portion, nondiscretionary want so we different environments talked I say with edge. The somebody about are me few to substantial but And like a that our correct this

fixing matter in And whatever. locksmith toilet, a things to so fixed. the It you economy broken or HVAC, get those that's is what happen those any doesn't or environment or a got doing broken

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Mark Schneider

will question Erickson next be RBC. at Our from Brad

Brad Erickson

Thanks. Hi.

on Oisin, a mentioned ads leads traffic coming is and follow-ups Just of you back within trend… couple still there brand Angi. post

Mark Schneider

Brad. Sorry,

coming out. You're in and

Brad Erickson

good? You about me? How now? All can't hear

Mark Schneider

Now Yep. we could.

Brad Erickson

right. All

So on coming ads about and And SEM. leads, still and Oisin, SEO you obviously, traffic is talked back.

expansion. I would And other under right roofing that marketing to recovers? angi.com over-earning we at that on sort say then spend And on category fully second, would of there how just traffic or a more look historically, look guess for you're today, once earning? you said aggressively blueprint you could results be now for like you've As

Are the curious maybe not labor to get being on capacity anymore? you acquisitions there saying you you -- company et bit that supplier those network, little just a you more. exploring acquire a you're network, that You some -- really could cetera. to Are not because need just And have need? much. don't saying mentioned reconcile as you Maybe you just the you you relative table

Oisin Hanrahan

Sure.

demand are we So with we and where leads in the and and supply. relative in terms of with terms -- ads where of are

We vertical consumer this supply. and aggregate still Pro are more by have in than by category category demand still obviously we but vertical,

more, consumer we there So, categories we where certain more are would if monetize demand. had yes,

in have more aggregate everything would consumer increase net-positive. supply, or Pro still across demand supply consumer we increase in which in an why demand than be an is Pro However, reduction or

of to take its on legacy if HomeAdvisor yet. reach back that back spend media are at spend broad you yet not or not peak, our our spend media peak media are broad brands level we to we So

for it continues will we to Angi As the sense. lean see to makes in progress obviously environment evolves and where we changes it make as brand on the us, and sense continue

the add decisions, but we more rapidly. to category. and the we where expect we're roofing, as to of more category, It us on All those rest investment rule make question? we of and as to happy the has about be roofing is about Last we're where that with the that great opportunistic. allowed into out that certainly environment identify it the the out, progress to continue here In everyone to going has us the growing and in judicious we're very accelerate think a It's sense identifying rest M&A year. year of it macro how shakes that within doesn't for And growth vigilant the terms as asset think and to spoken made. And we've making quite where we we makes an business. IAC

Mark Schneider

We're No. done.

Joey Levin

Okay.

good I us joining Have discussing for forward more. you thank and we to that, this with morning, a day. So look

Chris Halpin

you. Thank

Oisin Hanrahan

Thanks.

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