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Operator

Good morning, everyone. And welcome to the IAC and Angi Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I'd like to turn the floor over to Christopher Halpin, Executive Vice President and CFO of IAC. ahead. go please Sir,

Christopher Halpin

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Joey Levin

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Mark Schneider

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Operator

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Eric Sheridan

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Operator

from Blackledge Cowen. comes Our John next question from

John Blackledge

Two questions.

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Christopher Halpin

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Operator

question Cory J.P. Carpenter next from from And Morgan. our comes

Cory Carpenter

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Joey Levin

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Christopher Halpin

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Operator

Thill Jefferies. from And from question next comes our Brent

David Lustberg

for may. Two, on David is if Brent. This I

you For Bluecrew to you with guys And question, pairing helpful. Any markets? the receipt kind thought the guys then the bought second, the ask quarter. the about thinking some on a talk back in public two We and maybe cash guys want some allocation. MGM of maybe helpful. would and bit have have first that combined you color saw provide are can the to markets about sale be EmployBridge, private any on little the bought you would updates I just on that how on during could you on Do you you any maybe the how equity stock about the color company versus of assets capital be

Christopher Halpin

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Joey Levin

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Operator

Our next question comes from Ross Sandler from Barclays.

Ross Sandler

of on couple Meredith. a Just follow-ups Dotdash

the next forecast? So, industry how sensitivity of ad much to your how some growth performance, I around based continues know into we to of we for much if in in the you at market portfolio growth it the And chart letter. as will baked you're the is from traffic in and the mentioned. XX% year, ad have kind forecast? the And programmatic growth of if look in digital be shifting on premium on So, ad rates zone properties, most that that like tank, seems that do terms sales Meredith market,

and traffic forecast. kind revenue you're to to of bridge that kind So, use baking monetization what of in could

Joey Levin

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Operator

question next from comes Our Helfstein from Jason Oppenheimer.

Jason Helfstein

confidence it, another in the call versus and opposed shortfall leads you on at months kind talk strategy months Joey, services of XX about pivot? the as gives learned current the just or can you making what to that last, you XX have

Joey Levin

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Operator

Our Kurnos comes The Dan next from Company. Benchmark from question

Daniel Kurnos

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Joey Levin

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Joey Levin

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Joey Levin

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Christopher Halpin

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Operator

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Justin Patterson

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Joey Levin

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Operator

Wright question [ph] next Our from Logan from comes RBC.

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Tom Champion

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Joey Levin

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Christopher Halpin

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Joey Levin

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Operator

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Joey Levin

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years one-and-a-half we're maybe realistically, probably to behind think, I one schedule.

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Joey Levin

to share. Well, next thank lot a quarter you and all talking hopefully have to for look joining us when you this we'll forward more to quarter

Operator

that gentlemen, call and will We Ladies conclude today's conference for joining. and presentation. you thank

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Angi (ANGI) 9 Nov 222022 Q3 Earnings call transcript