PQG - Earnings call transcript Q2 2018

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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the PQ Group Holdings' Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Nahla Azmy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ma'am, the floor is yours.

Nahla Azmy

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Jim Gentilcore

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Jim Gentilcore

Thank you, Belgacem.

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Mike Crews

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Jim Gentilcore

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Operator

we Nomura question Yefremov first from of The Instinet. go will Instructions] Please have come Aleksey ahead. [Operator

Matt Skowronski

is on Good Matt or morning, this Aleksey. Skowronski

an EC&S, Just to your start raw the off, the year? were on in year-over-year for up for quarter? how during have materials And much raw materials what expectations you do are full update

Mike Crews

this Yes, is Mike.

dollar-for- pricing, quarter. pricing-wise consistent is was with the dollar XX%, which was was the one So, on which sulfur the and it EC&S pass-through about big first up

from PQ what point little I the year. we for chemicals remarks, expect And as is ultimate level of XX permanent margins. at So that to be about a which my as we drag a bit about talked pass-through, said the on impact Performance includes basis the in is well,

Matt Skowronski

maybe? impact is the Thank far bit little you. striping tell? obviously, early expecting it to a this a as went, late you was And first too the Or – it as slow on stretch month, highway weather season kind to of October quarter. September into are Are

Jim Gentilcore

which with once is just long but Matt, nice, run Jim. it they weather can. turns as now, was the this quarter, is business, as a slow to It hard which this also start unusual the was they second

we quarter in they'll long in they the that fourth and be as up So as late we're Furious calendar quarter, go will into as expect Fast the holds the and this weather running as year can.

happens So this the in the position. that many to dealt that and unusual up we've It's time We with lost not as for contractors ground. business, of do any years hard from nature we're to we're – it running time. the make are know

Matt Skowronski

you. Thank

Operator

The we Begleiter will come next from Deutsche have question David Bank. of

David Begleiter

and compress, morning. but you. holding very JV, Thank QX? business back strong the in line, Good margin Zeolyst this performance guess, the margins was In in did quarter-over-quarter, I anything year-over-year top

Mike Crews

in the for to Zeolyst going that hydrocracking was It lower quarter a margin. Mike. a Dave, Hi, are up saw particular you a it’s joint good year very point. for average that relative at and being about catalysts That our Zeolyst a margin was the to as we've venture year be strong is What outlook talked strong the to XX%.

seeing are Those in we're the first half. the is sales part margin in the that that concentrated first mix So of half.

half improve. That's second half. margins second We to expect why of reason part the we the expect less in

David Begleiter

rate, should on lower tax that more you little for Mike thank bit XX%? XXXX? that that a the you. XXXX of in permanent a clear, change? Are well? it And Very as Is is be looking Or just

Mike Crews

apply much our When breakeven from wouldn’t somewhere original look first I it'll pretty that our be were quarter, and the standpoint. at between to XX%. you taxable guidance of – mid-XXs income we

higher Now lower, see of to we're statutory while more were into we that XX% you starting to a fact starting income U.S. quarter. get underlying rates normalized We're are the give pattern, when our this deleveraging. the because about at with

tax reform, GILTI higher you the If take little a the out it's been than in that.

given from across jurisdictions, the a Having better that we've impact X%. taking taxes. mix we're the by though, year an got on that that outlook cash has our income said So on no fact up about it

David Begleiter

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Next we have Credit Christopher Suisse. Parkinson of

Christopher Parkinson

First Fast kind and as year, side, in EC&S of industry of such XXXX, hit next just broader market some thought Can drivers demand the some three on the capacity of et startups you and but what process long-term given all, looking I targets, to different especially those Furious new JV cetera. your the cetera, intermediate for? have your outlook, the the and on love IMO should reference, investors for in et you company-specific subjects terms be

Jim Gentilcore

to think, backwards Gentilcore, me questions. The regulatory Jim I this are periods coming those let in. Chris, these work big primarily are that drivers

should IMO the is also So also on affecting – transportation emissions, I transportation XXX emissions which say, imagined I road horizon. X, is China

cases pulled in As it's in we've seen Chinese. the by been some

whether then And on years administration's say in – we maritime So President as this even CAFE the road world's – would years with model the or that, that know. out concern it's that to the locked I cycle, of biggest on in automobile advance about those two fuels, design it's get the view the more drivers the are sulfur transportation. take standards, the

into the So engines. more manufacturers moving very with smaller, efficient we're and automobile evidence more already four-cylinder, these are seeing turbocharged very strong

the that in businesses, – way big driver those a on that businesses or are affect of our standards that's So side. another. five all – the drivers really And CAFE our one

green it's Materials At vehicle other So any that & that and done from of just lightweighting silicate the from products. or trucks. the benefit electric end green Material scale, is sodium of some passenger tires use benefit tires. real of the lightweighting, all Performance vehicle, the quick the examples, the our type business, our with vehicles whether But they in producing in Chemicals Performance

question? on any Excuse So this We the primary that drivers but question. way answered are I that that see believe demand – we growing direction me remind if hope part so sustainable. of business The – the keeping up. nothing would that change horizon can that – last me, And you driver. they're that's are would of first in your the

Christopher Parkinson

actually drivers answered side. just probably as questions a a well consumer can looking advantageous you you're follow-up, of the chemical at PM&C my there, things are You for but my Obviously, it but specifically mentioned follow-up on on drivers out turning new previous guys? within because few the as side, sit you a like seems the on few both there, you key fairly

Jim Gentilcore

consumer on very the side, paper big were from and pulp drivers away we've of years okay many towards Chris, and for as many and know, hard you Yeah, shifted products higher-end that back. detergents us consumer not the laundry too the

around the the – consumer growing toothpaste will around they is seeing. class performance what's the ups care use as consumers that that the more that make more and and growth then So our partially chemicals. applications wound you're some drive as world, And because behind world, consumers of

is the cat silicate catalyst there that cracking is fluid also to that, sodium used. growth in the where addition In our –

SSC are Product producers silica, which just we So using some group into of are sodium green the Performance as where briefly, silicate of Chemicals so goes our in and talked tires. And more to the the about more. tires the that's product catalysts goes the

Christopher Parkinson

Thank much. very you

Operator

Bob Sachs is Koort Next Goldman with

Dylan Campbell

Good for morning, on Bob. Campbell this Dylan

– to came cost passing growth the of of that for color a PM&C you earlier this impact your from you of higher be little through costs from margin for bit EC&S, how much the mentioned raw provide material can of pass-throughs? if and segment would each both able You pricing

Mike Crews

which page I you that If that think major provide, at change is XX. look, it Dylan, Yeah, we factors, shows Slide the

that the see price caustic is sulphur. change line. most covered of variable There's that of to there. and really cost on soda should was in little What bit You you'll the the pretty it EC&S is in But side a much get that.

the on Materials that costs Performance more drops. – EC&S But thermal last year we That's referenced variable the line I better that – out through we've on increase price. covered in cost as with PM&C. On & what and say had than would start-up side Chemicals bit point the there's side, than close we've little running a I'd well. very the it's and variable got I

Dylan Campbell

Got it, thanks. that helpful, is

a in start We bit expect terms that of growth guess polyolefin to you're kind have seen curious, these more just hitting entering expansions. expansions currently for seeing visibility from little expect your do of, or the numbers of when to market. was And volume I much how this you silica? see I

Mike Crews

we are What North technology. on expansion. But that expecting just than that that the ores by with just X% previously points the to would American be growing expansions we're we're two capacity winning with capacity talked to the three have licensed about to X%, faster due fact

Jim Gentilcore

are seeing in we that we're two that kind be is and growth that growth CAGR – X% of being our used take us. helps would the catalyst the the there all midterm – a to close polyolefin that to by we've – said, as us. rate for our there's producers of particular silica-based underlying of that business. Yeah, And now expansion, One by ACP we time and that are factors of, the what the, a we're is Dylan more there's helping in shift number this underlying

Dylan Campbell

Got you. it, thank

Operator

Capital have Please we McNulty BMO from come question of Markets. go John ahead. will next The

John McNulty

the Yeah, great, – my would had thanks you side, in EC&S, tough In there. MMA for volume taking area, you the questions. you very highlighted would high comps

should that in equation, volumes think how how out business? grew If the the of you about take we

Jim Gentilcore

growth – for dense catalyst polyethylene, the Well John. was for high double for digit that the

So then was, the well. flat, our some I Region as good, up the volume but X% given we had quarter about to in methyl for be offsetting were lower going those outs Virgin is recall impacts up catalyst flatter But HDPE. turnarounds the offset, had of change volumes that that about X%, polyolefin were fact and positives was going methacrylate we the operational kind were on. sales. of, think that the

John McNulty

to this on takes for Got you've to year are I of, about I or grow new look not also, it need another or impact what what to if of, it, you're how was if year maybe for stage, as kind out, you've, for forward? the next kind know perfect. capacity then question mark already first, that hit and going guess there's should next whether that of full ThermoDrop, we a as year. I And would And the need load believe into CapEx got? then where we going to you that guess you I mean think

Jim Gentilcore

John. At to ready closely. spend this need We're we we're Yeah, watching it. point, when capital

us of of only to takes XX build points months it the Some to remember, one these plants.

$XX takes a So it's it us plants. bit million. different than chemical And our big about

capital $XX million on year. in of that So we comfortably growth our every spend the it's range

closely. to where we're qualitatively we'll CapEx So it adding We'll we're product. when let that we're we at – about be watching the point are. know that excited you We're particular

John McNulty

much. very thanks Great,

Operator

have Jeff we Next Morgan. of Zekauskas JP

Jeff Zekauskas

very much. Thanks

you XXXX versus material that? XXXX, you that can pass-throughs are. to growth? exclusive pressures raw that over looking allowing results, deterioration remedy rate you margin at grow about it Can in your What the how whatever of are talk the are some fast your a sales your have EBITDA than And Just much seems slower that?

Mike Crews

is this Jeff, Mike. Hi,

So, XX about is to related really, it basis a we’ve related rust just and the pass-through talked mix. of lot the of to points

talked year, average. our about said being what were high a the the year we it relative catalyst sales. full outlook we for – we Those to portfolio at for hydrocracking So a margin lower

of there. that little a there's bit So

start little sales thing. that had got to turnaround had first expect will hydrocracking, the second temporary another we've really do costs, half. methyl year, we it half, we've We to three the lower are mix a that's had bit ones large of year the While the in the turnarounds half We've just the in itself which in small – two in first be for XXXX. good and a remedy methacrylate

and mix we a is So from really off a still as or think it we at even the XX%, some where are of do at us for it's bit just while XX.X%, is – any strong that timing sales today very company. either

Jim Gentilcore

if is add that The expect that expect I quarter-to-quarter it coming issues, basis. this stable where each do just to you Jeff, look fact about, the in is product always blend midterm. in this midterm blending be from But areas, there and that, those Jim, would in growth will.. the that are talked these of that And that at mix up Mike and the margins will we a And from committed we're the up. we to will firmly

Jeff Zekauskas

my like maintenance quantify first second grown of timing, in in can relative but shrunk expenditure And catalysts follow-up described in in for the the not in of to catalysts, half, the They've as the XXXX. you first silica quarter or silica what the is half philosophically, description your an So a of time. catalysts XXXX. level MMA it you be intermediate a very over view? silica or for would have thought volume Like, think or large are you think going different you XXXX you that revenues now XXXX do and of to improvement where I XXXX period Do half?

Mike Crews

markets. a just This the in lumpy a like consumable more versus HDPE you'd is see pure little

plus which year we a a XXXX, charge, So in was first is a charge had first actually which the very spare. strong

naturally we're So a expectations big are. have In little XXXX, year. where our that's a would short of we In XXXX, down. been

has which major But nice margin is is thing a very the that perspective, the that of other driver it though, well, delayed performing performance. fact remember to contributor some the of not of a a off. top it's but the due Some from to the catalyst

high significantly moves within around quarter-to-quarter, the in performance to it drive Zeolyst, EC&S, demand to to density Virgin And going – be be tends polyethylene, the growth. to regen continued then So of while be continued volume our growth asset going what's strong will year-over-year. is from really

Jeff Zekauskas

what And expenses? maintenance the about

Mike Crews

If you Slide running category. before, that's the I look at other that referenced XX, through

which $XX If you look at the million. EBITDA was

improvement say a digit net. first second So half, half we'll that's be net, I'd mid-single at versus

Jeff Zekauskas

So it is $X million.

Mike Crews

Right.

Jeff Zekauskas

you. great Okay thank

Operator

will will from of we Markets. question Sison next Capital And KeyBanc come have Mike

Connor Cloetingh

Cloetingh Mike. Hi, Connor good for this morning is

based but you're low you on just the So looks about growing decelerate it your side both PM&C businesses? full I like the talk On growth. you'll what's excluding the guidance, year-over-year, and double digits year Can wondering single-digit that? was it like half zeolite, to on looks topline, driving of EC&S first in

Mike Crews

cost. that, more of of higher really the sulfur a some Yes, of pass-through function it's the

first actual got we really is that that going we the haven't the for be. where So and don't half results we've built know but in the pricing to

first that's increase So year. that through the it. full just pushed half part haven't We of for

Connor Cloetingh

a bit it then have well. like with would you strong on looks the side, first slow the it down And know that as the half to have you'll quite in PM&C growth

Mike Crews

of the of we is middle Sovitec June in the closed that Some acquisition on last that fact the year.

in So high really in grow second you're said in even that it's seeing it's But not the single the comparable but first half. half said we've basis same PM&C will the store more on the that, digits. having

So growth still forecast we top line the there.

Connor Cloetingh

for prepare over as Are start refiners that? Okay, be expecting on change IMO step year? great, any and about next XXXX you're just in is that thinking XXXX. Starting zeolite to how mid the follow-up one the business? Or may you

Jim Gentilcore

are accelerate for place. it is of as step once starting be But to don't regulations to compliance, short-term this in the still and They the growth ability a to take change. start port will our kind see the off XXXX. and large It in developing. for The in it timing infrastructures we then, prepare the of, ready

for it wouldn't us. in call step point at this change a for acceleration we we business expect but that the growth do So rate

Connor Cloetingh

thank you. great Alright,

Operator

Citi. Juvekar from P.J. next come And the question will have we of

Scott Goldstein

Goldstein Hi, quarter? for did the And the expect guess for the third in contribute? I of rest what on Sovitec of Scott volume this we year or is how growth much can In PM&C, P.J.

Mike Crews

the Sovitec. of was increase majority that Sovitec,

transportation was safety. by So it led really,

$XX inorganic, You've at the if which up look company, we're some total of I the growth you XX% overall was inorganic. million was organic. XX% got think, our

largest component. the it's So

Scott Goldstein

industrial PM&C I I consumer industrial but your longer term, prices? you I shifted And towards know get shifting the couple you. thank And it a more mix higher been fair Performance seen see touched by mix applications. Okay, it of on in which margins has – think have how in this impacted say Is products products, you that that is where to we've do mix. Chemicals, the quarters can think you from to before where

Mike Crews

a the sales Latin that think some has incremental at more function some of America. been and selling I the lower have in of Right, demand little of industrial been been We've margins.

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Scott Goldstein

very Okay thanks much.

Mike Crews

Welcome.

Operator

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Ecovyst (ECVT) 12 Aug 182018 Q2 Earnings call transcript