WRK - Earnings call transcript Q1 2020

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Marcella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I’d like to welcome everyone to the WestRock Company’s First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. James Armstrong, Vice President of Investor Relations.

James Armstrong

operator. you, Thank Good morning. our joining first XXXX for quarter fiscal call. you earnings thank And website. morning press Investor the our our issued and Relations release of the We to this posted presentation accompanying section slide via They a of can application using webcast. are view you at be ir.westrock.com the link the right accessed on side this to or

as Officer, Chief are of Chief our Commercial Officer and President With call Executive of Pat Steve Dickson; WestRock’s me Consumer on our Voorhees; Lindner. Ward Officer, Packaging, well Jeff and President Chalovich; Corrugated Chief Innovation today’s our as Chief Financial Packaging, Officer

up Following our prepared the comments, call a we will session. open question-and-answer for

a of ended During we of that uncertainties our cause and differ course results statements related We risks involving the will these risks plans, to could actual filing today’s the for uncertainties from involve XX-K SEC, be the beliefs XX, making These describe forward-looking number materially with call, during call. we our events. year to XXXX. and in September estimates expectations, and including future the our discussed those fiscal may statements

will be during the non-GAAP Additionally, we financial referencing measures call.

provided appendix have the in directly measures comparable presentation. reconciliations the the non-GAAP of GAAP to We measures most slide of these

slide the As mentioned our on website. is previously, presentation available

now Steve. it you with that And said, I’ll turn over to

Steve Voorhees

for Thanks, our James. earnings fiscal morning. Thank joining call. Good you first quarter XXXX

progress demand, innovative, differentiated strategy our for are stable solutions. made and executing growing by and increasing supply During substantial the customers we packaging first fiscal that characterized with sustainable quarter needs markets ever

sales each customers sales our is our of of million of portfolio or solutions. to of at XXX with comprehensive fiber of an rate based growth to demonstrated now of total these from customers than another This annual $X needs buying by positions billion These sales. while more $X.X least quarter XX% segments. represent meet of our WestRock packaging our

addition KapStone. the increased mainly due quarter the billion X.X% sales $X.X to of During our to

within was provided guidance the $XXX November. segment adjusted million in we expectations Our of EBITDA that

and of include in included in new upgrade paper capital projects Florence Brazil. the projects these now $XXX strategic container to for Our our quarter board of and investments million our $XXX million machine

We fiscal expenditures to quarter high our this recent for this be water mark year. capital for expect most the

decline our expect to to $XXX year to billion CapEx ongoing rate next on an fiscal We million annual an $X basis. of

Mahrt this paper this we’ve reconfiguration. box completed During in strategic year, The past at our Feliz. at mills the our include our and Covington machine investments mill year Charleston our Porto and to completed Florence projects North in plant be fiscal

benefits in will have quarter investments results impacted and projects these negatively deliver these near this long-term our our While substantial in for the company.

million these run $XXX additional XXXX. they $XX up, cumulative annual of the we quarter end run of and expect the fourth of rate EBITDA a an deliver total ramp will by EBITDA rate at projects fiscal an million the annual end As in fiscal

increase operational sustain the to run will expect results is generation. benefits productivity cash and Tres of XXXX. when rate accretion the upgrade KapStone will this that financial along with in provide our We benefits fiscal flow This Barras fully

and The EBITDA year the results. benefits and segment lower export deflation, decline lower prices price million KapStone’s ongoing EBITDA the year-over-year. of additional result containerboard pulp partially cost from decline adjustment was of input in decreased X, and global Slide by published the offset domestic paper prices. changes, initiatives prior flow to the pricings turn Let’s previously of kraft by of month $XX through the in is The productivity

same maintenance year. adjusted million quarter had tons than outage relatively a quarter across of in $XXX we downtime the We had North last mill high XXX,XXX with of maintenance American the our double downtime more of system. operating This scheduled We is amount generated our million flow flow during adjusted from in billion cash $X This flow was quarter. free than and in fiscal fiscal we the more up $XXX of that to XXXX, free expect billion the prior sustain cash In course was cash XXXX. the $X year. that

We’re excellence, productivity and excellence differentiated result programs organic improvements focusing will profitable to leverage target. growth that ratio X.XX cash X.XX and times with that on our operational return in strategy digital our and executing flow commercial times our generate our to will

When and Turning was were X.X% corrugated of year North to this primarily adjusted EBITDA first packaging KapStone for our quarter last due the an billion corrugated to packaging fiscal and the increase paper segments. were prior Sales cost over additional $X.X the XX.X%. was acquisition. American driven results. fiber partially the primarily lower of export pulp energy month offset This pricing was by year was lower the KapStone margins and kraft decline by and and containerboard, versus domestic and

in Despite from are fiscal grow on that XX.X% at rates month watch and XX.X% earlier our domestic operating domestic PPW this backlog improved our in fiscal January the to demand reduction the medium. Demand business fourth and quarter stable ecommerce to first box ton to in we’ve ton demand American per price first $XX quarter pace. $XX quarter. per and solid. domestic Industry from across experienced a Similar is double-digit year-over-year North stable price export on continues linerboard the

Our X% fiscal system no ago. tons quarter a balance the our higher for in of XX%, integration than first was year downtime quarter containerboard our downtime. maintenance are economic Inventories rate XXX,XXX included and and across

target included In earlier our machine reduced the rate by of announced month this we shutdown is XXX,XXX a September, permanent reconfiguration integration the long-term paper linerboard capacity the Mill that Our Charleston of tons. North XX%. which

EBITDA impacted is construction at year. of machine achieve begin half operating in mill million adjusted machine scheduled This expect the cost to the the our during paper installation and segment We first the new to The to operation remains run rate calendar volume. The are by million annual lower unscheduled Florence higher year. completion. sales benefits this nearing $XX and and due end by $XX transition of calendar

We’re wrapping up transition remaining to to the work necessary efforts. commissioning

an includes day Our additional This X.X% on month KapStone. grew basis. of box shipments per a

their We’re win helping in our customers markets.

modern, continued most cost, the and is Our equipment low corrugators ability enabled high in the investments with in converting speed, industry. by to win customers

high challenges. delivering to quality time their and solving critical infill in We’re products on [ph] customers

local, set of solutions of and and national global lightweight, to the white liners. our that include multi-faceted a comprehensive cutted specialty customers liners kraft converted, virgin bringing [ph] We’re and XXX% top portfolio recycled most and

technology, total and in their by on right our help box investments reduce manufacturing cost. achieve shipping, The and reduce supply demand and invoiced, sizing packaging goals their to box sizer their enabled sustainability chain customers dramatically

and us up to enable Our that customize portfolio customers the usage machinery needs meet the can sized our reduce product sustainable packaging XX%. of by for containerboard and specific solutions [indiscernible] fiber to packaging most their weight, lightest our to

and revitalize, unrivaled display suite pre-print scale. enable graphics full at business or of new brands They capabilities. America. the customers to most have a North scale modern our launch reinvent capabilities We in These include operation, pre-eminent

plant Now of turning the This Brazil. Porto region by customers packaging Feliz. providing impacted pre-print South ramp opportunity Brazil’s their the to to now machine quarter was million differentiate graphics. with the of first up is this America in in negatively first EBITDA adjusted of operates for $XX which exceptional

plants the still our While volume, small the a growth portion in our pre-print market. supporting capability of

startup increase Barras expansion in the production We Tres XXXX. remainder is for fiscal of XXXX. calendar expect track project the on over and first half of sales to

XX,XXX adjusted the quarter year. of were reported packaging tons consumer volumes of the XXX,XXX segment prior and X, Slide of tons to to billion $X.X as down in the sales EBITDA segment $XXX Moving compared Shipment million.

first customers past fiscal our had mills Mahrt complete these sales nine strategic order Over also major and quarter. and inventory at capital especially destocking Covington impacted extended mills our the negatively outages the beverage food volumes we’ve and to converting the in We’ve food, markets. service in outages and the months, outages maintenance conducted our by in projects. at scheduled These

maintenance impacted pulp tons our results. of driven of scheduled prices Market outages impact in reductions XX,XXX the

offset and outage some growth The converted beverage were our maintenance was consumer partially Shipments mill first and quarter food system. softness branded, quarter Europe our end in and markets shipments with peak products stable in Asia. across by consumer of service

our a from some shutdown saw branded the holiday customers. period also We shipments of large reduction of during

for to momentum. sustainable demand continues Consumer packaging gain

food such based eliminate meat For commercialized trays and to as trays. perishable applications example, fiber we’ve foam pressed

also converting from cone to customers solutions. beverage packaging We’re shrink high and wrap, plastic paperboard

board pipeline We’re a machinery carton wrap. replace we’re shrink plastic where extending canned applications paper food to materials design, opportunities building and to of our capability

a us, we behind ability Our innovation broadest of is consumer the products systems WestRock. portfolio the on for differentiator With mill segment with key customers financial partner expect to to performance. our in its packaging investments strategic improve

our achieve medium segment. target to striving in We’re margin XX% EBITDA this term of

them bought for this a from that In group formed total consumer packaging we’ve the $X million and paper critical our a is XXXX, customers WestRock of Since billion partner corrugated businesses ability portfolio has annual of solve These to each supplied WestRock of at the packaging broad XXX customers This $X.X we when $X.X billion. least grown XXXX, value their and XXX customers we of in to solutions most with to with XX% that our increase. and sales. challenges.

business capabilities to all them placements full grade isn’t their X,XXX. to WestRock’s XXX machinery a minimize cost, WestRock effort. more sustainable more that key paper solutions you reduce risk component products, customized, reduce we insert than company customers folding total and quarter. total more create and that machine during a that’s to across a impact. their our There company. with help of have carton, than Our than better We’ve label machines enterprise for positioned placed brings this This is range our When combine the and environment capabilities environmentally of some packaging their

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customers our their with solutions WestRock’s impact to reduce paper help to position us packaging. in well partner use them innovative and packaging compostable ambitious and reusable recyclable, meet packaging the based goals environmental to of more

Ward, I’ll now. to turn over it you

Ward Dickson

On our Steve. and XXXX quarter outline Slide our for you, second key assumptions fiscal guidance. Thank we full XX, year

on occurs year. pricing some each cost We seasonal volume cost million modest at expect million. have quarter. the than quarter tax healthcare EBITDA and calendar second to sequential segment reset linerboard increases our XXXX sequential in across index The of in and wage the higher beginning domestic should fiscal and January Sequentially reductions that PPW lower be $XXX between payroll segments. medium impact expect offset will the $XXX we Productivity more and the adjusted improvements both

due XX% forecast XXXX an full cash in rate approximately XX.X% tax approximately Our items. to adjusted the remains compared be guidance timing tax XX%. expect to quarter rate of our still year tax includes second quarter fiscal rate adjusted the discrete to at our first of We and XX.X%

guidance $X.X year of billion $X.X to are We full of our EBITDA. adjusted billion segment maintaining

of and to this invest billion in $X.X flow capital adjusted fiscal a more expect during in free than expenditures We should generate total cash billion $X XXXX year.

strategic capital CapEx flows XXXX. third return flows our $XXX that projects, to cash fourth Due of will cash our quarter. fiscal $X we our anticipate with in million complete level annual to billion we we seasonality and in strongest fiscal our As to the

insurance the in mill. and debt to reducing to in fiscal claim half. of focused expect Michael’s to related quarter on the before We times. net declining We X.XX X.X our remained We Hurricane City Panama target leverage second impact peak to our leverage second settled to ratio our returning

$XX our which we in included recovered $XX was interruption million In million, related business of and EBITDA. the quarter

turn We this claim to and recovered I’ll with $XXX it insurer now closing our some Steve have out closed comments. now have over back million. for

Steve Voorhees

Ward. Thanks

respond We’re executing making differentiated strategy substantial industry we progress environment. changing our as to proactively a

reduce that helping solutions their and We their them goals. value in have their all customers market increasing while sales, opportunities grow packaging total cost for help added risk, sustainability achieve the our paper in

for our the long-term. business We’re we’re as our people in investing the and in looking future to

processes, of the We’re systems take platform. our our and scale building advantage of

our projects, team technology digital our peak of efficiency to flow. mates cash the organically, operating of using growing customers, productivity The mates. team for value will investment capturing for better We’re period create combination a generating driving that long-term. experience, moved our strategic benefits the We’ve to improve and free and and holders enhance customer past the and engage stock period our of our

Now my we’re that prepared remarks, James, concludes for Q&A. ready

James Armstrong

you, Thank Steve.

can ask as to as reminder needed. get our We’ll with question a a have audience give please. to As Operator, question, please your to if to we a limit allows. question our one to first a everybody chance time follow-up, many

Operator

Chip of First Your first Research. Dillon the from question line Vertical comes from

Your line open. is

Chip Dillon

us you Florence gave and magnitude detail are and disruption the transition of transition switch switch of to you there? be over think machine, new us the how when operating a normally going of or you tell process if how operating of of the of I but you much when don’t things just this much lot and a kind cost you expect throw at could on the know

Jeff Chalovich

Chip. It’s Jeff. morning, Good

and be we capability runs rate up and year, before operating at October machine we in the expect ramp progressing run that novel finishing this it’s piping, the through so of so the paper September, machine wiring, finishing it’s lot fiscal laid a the But will the wirings the mid-year touches. startups but fourth through the So quarter in, that in mid-year of the leave should the well. in putting a of and machines just we’re normal up some before quarter

Ward Dickson

the gave that, disruption impact of million Chip, last financial guidance and the the Tres when Barras call the and that quarter this both I in our million mill is and I the on year gave remind would $XX you full we for Ward. Florence I’ll the $XX FYXX. estimated in between to

Chip Dillon

and believe just presumably I no to XX-K tied arrangements know about venture more them? you back that follow-up. with Grupo you the call about the quick is be to mean joint in change the and expect going strategically we some I first was and to buy comments position Gondi I selling relative to any the this a Okay, last seen, in had talk likely how investment position their we to what your and

Steve Voorhees

[ph]. in venture years. joint They’re putting the for had rates We’ve several call place

machine. I big and is the on, machine partnerships project which the is to that’s very schedule the think paper the think Monterey one going first, our worked like in Florence on a well. I it’s comparable We to

is our our more likely I interest. for say it’s increase more or decrease for increase think likely us overtime it So interest us to to

Chip Dillon

super That’s Thanks so helpful. much.

Operator

George Your Securities. Staphos next from line comes of question from the BofA

open. is Your line

George Staphos

that I you follow-on, wanted whether to discussed work and the see, progress beyond that your sales or achieved. kind you consumer enterprise of having on means on like which in you numbers the mentioned see the impact approach, and particular to what in you’re striving you’re desired XX% as you’d may you that goal be commentary that for may the not having it’s even that think

each revenues Pat. all, that you achieve consumer. for agree Jeff and So and you it’s terms from Thank and more you It quarter with the of goal kind fourth think million it please rate seems what on Would of buying grew and ultimately the first second like will about it’s a million growth numbers really need having my customers X% and I cumulative from probably same you of $X $X.X performance quarter. – do strive had from that and the that guys. [ph] a that’s fiscal or for you seems in quite the provided you disagree not not to effect you margin question. the like

Jeff Chalovich

George. morning, Good

to so machines already the million do So, that each able have million million a we package we’re team in yes, primary, quite are ones are being The – and and segment supply combo and have we corrugated folding. I chain $X in with well machines, accounts set secondary, segment I a was pleased in the the in with have one customers bring, solutions of that $X optimize beverage the the $X the progress think that over through value have that other. and the positioned finding don’t tertiary both either

with WestRock. we’re and as wins segments us segments large machine about some complement reps, both force and of in really on marketing combined sales customers enterprise But as had is We’ve in these we reps, graphics our of one Pat teams I’ll approaching we and each consumer. talk let of reps, our a the have divisions teams and I full some think put leads

has have machinery just So we consumer, we than think equipment. and of to from continued growth businesses taking upside customers beverage that our we been the display, corrugated and good and and the run see cartooning look advantage segments at all I we in provide look machinery more

I $X think more opportunities I’ll a top Pat customers consumer and million to grow the we let for those over each have about that across opportunity have then bit. talk

Pat Lindner

Jeff. Thanks

talk just the So that. margins rate the the coming little XX% and a bit asked me to years in meet you share about elements couple still about that and EBITDA key of a the of expect let I’ll we run

outages to parts of been suppressed all, the because to XXXX. wanted XX% impacted $XX get really rate run and to productivity expect of of we our by some get by the had negatively mills plan are of margins that year end fiscal we those and have in our increase these strategic First and million the to about we’ve of important

see as we’ve very well improvement tracking a to strong a gets connecting really as results combined to this that term $XXX really part really part important for about consumer we part impacted in continue innovation, to enterprise we’ve while our and on we’ve around deliver Jeff XX of shared beverage, important very margin food is run there service So that they consumer to back near and million started ask plastics replacement the food sales customers capability said, and This in important delivered since to we’ve on as corrugated replacement had are demand being solution and and so before months and important far see ago track innovation $XXX and between that its part we’re around sales. million differentiator. they and we plastic and really our of rate enterprise

our productivity that doing, we So with our certainly do as well as XX%. expect everything capabilities innovation confidence we’re have and

George Staphos

you. Thank

Operator

Your next line question from of the comes Bank Wilde Mark of from Montreal.

open. Your is line

Mark Wilde

right I issues is ask of wanted about two of your impact the Coronavirus on global now. to kind One business. the

I I the premium know kind business of probably this of and that kind is of lot for more stuff through Pat, a has Dutyfree goods moves think shops. MPS

seeing you’re right wondering issue other of a pulp from the strike. whether containerboard, about, The a lot export They now impact Finnish, any lot I’m of and is export papers SBS. they

Steve Voorhees

you, Mark, I speak to China. can

people we perspective, employed China. in about XXX For

million $XXX think annual may the Shanghai until know China announced government New this. won’t has you sales million until $XXX has Our it. between XX. I Year X. But and companies February are extending to All restart announced February Chinese

area so are a Wuxi Guangzhou they in [ph] [ph] have won’t They plants and plant a similar [ph]. have haven’t notice. and in We that released we February then in XX and same restart until that Kushan general

go to planning we’re X. to work February back So there

I comment there monitoring I shipped [indiscernible] think know, we’re masks just question. a we’ve don’t Jeff? and that have your supporting I second pretty don’t our carefully. on situation We’re employee,

Jeff Chalovich

Sure.

pulp No point in demand from on I, of Mark as export. We and this haven’t seen exports in anything our or based strike. difference backlog and time.

Mark Wilde

back just that Steve on then right, Coronavirus. All

your demand right up So in any potential of schedules you’re in from slowing production picking customers or now thoughts any because of slowing. not about anything

Steve Voorhees

We haven’t far. so

Mark Wilde

Okay, I will turn it over.

Operator

from comes line Maguire of question next from Sachs. Goldman Brian Your

line Your is open.

Brian Maguire

the Jeff, acquisitions. being talked about I X.X% box including know about growth you guys the shipment

just an ended sort was of I other without number on the KapStone acquisitions. maybe of you us kind the that organic quarter comment wondering and more of what could in I provide think of within of seeing if and and in January sort gave some far. just that trends you’re you so how past the

Jeff Chalovich

Brian. morning, Good

XX, organic So will aggregate were but just shipping quarter [indiscernible] the was because at New our KapStone XX% was forward we Year’s was for and up counted had the end all were. down really, and organic of Eve the We be the what last month going X.X%. of over as WestRock was aggregate our not in an day in X.XXX% [ph] the I it of with inclusive. the plants matched customers December start This that

on leaving flat be X.X we flat, per aggregate, forward the and on January it what were going organically the month. but of was basically up and expected that all sales. its is we will So for day organic WestRock for a the then right top year-over-year

Brian Maguire

above and of I and, Great that still ball running think you’d that we’ve or [ph] XXX assumed rates. NFP guidance, target the quarter last something kind be expectation think your in maybe [indiscernible] that, growth points been I running basis is above park

Jeff Chalovich

to continue grow, industry above is this outgrow growth to would year and X% to X% we plan the said [ph]. Our

Brian Maguire

Okay, that’s I’ll me. over thanks. turn it from it

Operator

Your next Citi. comes Anthony from question of Pettinari line from the

line Your open. is

Anthony Pettinari

on seeing fair reflect a with expand demand. what sounds that is regard say paper following like and necessarily It little? on to that you demand of anything you that and on question Just firm Brian’s kind the with were week Is to of ton cut regards published. there to up $XX kind pulp a

Jeff Chalovich

had seen pressure than in some was surprised board paper We recycled. kraft had Anthony, some the the container paper cut. of and we honestly kraft our and the sure. more in seen I our

domestic our versus quarter-over-quarter. and surprised quarter all looseness in was wasn’t was our the kraft export good virgin had recycled So been in medium. our export that it and were there box pricing volumes and But some volume, I flat

in honestly. were rates. move and are rates surprised operating operating surprised. was good [Indiscernible] in by shape I and Inventories PPW so So was good, the I

Anthony Pettinari

it’s you obviously offset week sort guide wondering for guidance or published I’m that maintaining then offsetting just pulp cost maybe despite Ward [indiscernible]. you question issued and paper that’s the confidence gives productivity as kind that is whether of you of what color which Okay, and XXXX you in and for that’s helpful cut. since the

Ward Dickson

original on And included be based could we and what each see across of pricing, today assumptions provided capture those we the comfortable we our a commodity range. year Our one guidance a has of volume on range both because our and ability thought range assumptions. synergy and there cost we’re on costs volumes individual attainment, full to still maintaining outcomes

of it’s So combination all factors. the a

Anthony Pettinari

I’ll it Okay, over. that’s helpful. turn

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Weintraub from Seaport.

Your line is open.

Mark Weintraub

can there second really did. in in and embedded Perhaps as the to How sort Last price EBITDA you how is of additional that any going and ranges somewhat skepticism when now at second the half have now Ward, that basically first you seasonality then is that and potential you’re cushion half. was you people the lot erosion that expecting year of in there possibly laid or this you the addendum. out underway deliver know the and year the get or the look gone the versus much a just are projects of improvement there etc. first versus I

Ward Dickson

can first forward pricing. clear give to on assumption. can’t you which I taken all to any a We’ve you So your on question comment answer individual I

remains in and was We’re same first year the last XX% the the cost relationship and The first includes half price In second said our our gave guidance second I half range approximately year all downtime volume XX% half thing those EBITDA we and we half of half you, of with of it’s in I first the drive whether half the a the half that told of comfortable that in to think that synergies volume overall when of first is does our and increases second profile acceleration profile. and we that second have to the it’s full XX% this for productivity. was the and most productivity. half and same reflect the profile and XX% the both it elimination the in reflection seasonal year,

Mark Weintraub

you. Thank

Operator

line Inc. of from open. comes Your Stephens from Mark is next line the question Connelly your

John Rider

This John Mark. is for Rider

we just what thinking three may update is asking higher question They’ve be negative give seeing about been can First risk the a and And is, help just your you’re aggregate. have running us us back. growth of the lot flow that understand us fallen in consumer and whether an in you you could steadily you’re fairly order that if coming substrates. how investors means each a in backlogs of

Pat Lindner

Yes, question. thanks for is Pat. the This

demand from the Paperboard and drawn market in CNK much. the Packaging the when SBS But and in you Council across to think over which the that six the of primary I a there’s so don’t industry. really folding one converters four I look been CRB, of those have is is that different think down inventory it’s issues backlog I end we the think couple the say would has destocking a shown converters through last data is, available and the carton this this number But the factors. supply independent months that’s

on we’ll will destocking seeing and tell throughout saw it’s inventory be a issue as as to we’re forward us so year. cautiously You volumes saw and we But of past we’re the what corrected see going and the second based think the little some now year. in XXXX, some really biggest just in in destocking bit you getting far quarter optimistic build the probably increasing XXXX which and early slightly the is that’s and the is that that increased

John Rider

Okay, that’s and one. just final our really helpful then

at So published prices we’re well OCC levels. exceptionally seeing

the cost are? figures past is to as relative the actual We’re OCC just your so low published curious

Ward Dickson

in earnings and indices gave at the year full the average. reduction so If the cost a of fiber per recycled decline at look that was match OCC our the do our we our on year year-over-year embedded driver we guidance, what $XX cost we beginning see you when ton that OCC the you has deflation in can the bridge, been have, of and cost a large

John Rider

Okay, that’s Thank you. helpful.

Operator

Your from the next comes Gabe Hajde question line Fargo. of from Wells

Your open. line is

Gabe Hajde

it as – it’s going guys if curious any I seen a for customers particular if was at have it this segment does comment past in type the long to what all the behind observed have and on focusing and more behavior you driving how to the Was the to before persists you grade of was if consumer try that? moment. force in you pronounced destocking behavior,

Pat Lindner

don’t of Yes, question. directly any have the have comparison I is Pat. for this the – head-to-head any past. don’t really I Thanks

I in, will is course, go probably than understand demand going capture and more the we this one doing healthy we’re think we we that backlog the as year to think and current through – a a and as in there increase to the temporary and work understand throughout our situation is our ability this volume said is of good our we long-term now market trying so strategic event as cautiously a our we’re supply that on, in as before outages optimistic position. of what’s

we’re recovery looking forward that to it and So really as capture ready happens.

Gabe Hajde

thank Okay, remember you. year cost I I January that working build given was up target? this and in is a capital for I’m for then correctly less to that a here be environment cut or if curious, might depressing the And price the of, million $XXX the Ward little sort guess, still

Ward Dickson

that pointing Thank you out. for

the half up build there and was the it was build capital machine. as paper capital that we major and $XXX As of of flow cash of collection Florence the and payables and with half related you’re working XXXX we cash I had associated was guidance million of the right walk outages of working it through and timing guidance over Barras of temporary fiscal a in free free timing Tres said, the that flow because then was strong ramp a

through that year, continue and capital build exit the the we’ll focus So, us. build going reducing we year, behind to as to on temporary as have that go we working we’re

$X be So, that flow we’re us we going and the to billion elements have the to exceed cash able capital the one reductions. focus continued confidence is target of the working on free for

Gabe Hajde

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your line Deutsche Jones the next from Debbie question Bank. comes from of

open. Your line is

Debbie Jones

next outpace all XX at that customers, expect to have kind the you growth your look to for things corrugated the sit wanted you would over if XX and offerings and today ask, that you we done your just and of here I months? industry will those you’ve footprint

Jeff Chalovich

Hi that. is Debbie, our plan to certainly do

excellence continue a consolidated. supports expectation it have We’ve is that performance so eight last quarters we’ve that the a in machinery to down then and for our path. We business in and above significantly a my the business robust built enterprise business supported platform, growth market invested footprint

Debbie Jones

Do kind been of you it will that the level think, the appreciating same in be market? you’ve already

Jeff Chalovich

what It’s knowing expect. hard of It’s going without what’s mean the to set what market will exactly goals be to we tell, our it happen to market. we above the to hard say I

Debbie Jones

and a Okay of your just position can in there ask Mexico? kind down on quick and Gondi relationship just Grupo I and update for

Steve Voorhees

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Debbie Jones

turn I’ll perfect. over. it That’s Okay, great.

Operator

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Steve Chercover

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Jeff Chalovich

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Pat Lindner

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Steve Chercover

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Operator

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Unidentified Participant

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Jeff Chalovich

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Jeff Chalovich

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Unidentified Participant

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Operator

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Paul Quinn

question consumer a packaging. on Just

just target when guys big get highlighted and of have is a packaging. You XX% for to expected EBITDA to wondering how margin is sustainable target component your happen? that to of demand term I’m increased that medium the

Pat Lindner

Thanks This is Paul. Pat.

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Paul Quinn

luck. All right. Thanks very much. Best of

Operator

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James Armstrong

call for Thank the you, to joining operator. audience today. our Thank you

any us questions. to out have if you reach always As

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Operator

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WestRock (WRK) 30 Jan 202020 Q1 Earnings call transcript