MWK - Earnings call transcript Q4 2019

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Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Germ, and I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Mohawk Group Holdings Incorporated Q4 Earnings Report. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Instructions] [Operator

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Ilya Grozovsky

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Yaniv Sarig

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Fabrice Hamaide

afternoon, everyone. good and Yaniv, Thanks,

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including factors, in higher products were quarter, Our of we a phase launch XX fourth launched revenue by the of as percentage versus growth fourth quarter. the number impacted in quarter the third margins a during

approximately charge which margin primarily reversals the agency our accrual products $X.X is we margin QX XXX,XXX. impacted materially a that had gross expired of third associated certain due products recall non-core with fact, includes gross and and by associated million governmental products, a inventory complete, to In of that the older liquidation program penalty discontinued, of quarter positively certain write-off supplements, with

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to target Our can FedEx by related excess to to exceptional relationship, inventory, be charges name and prime few. a logistics Amazon and status all impacted margin contribution related charges

and SaaS include category other other. the and liquidation Finally,

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though the XXXX, products, QX late three December QX XXXX. in we In versus launched XX all majority the in

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XXXX is included contribution recall contains of which reversal QX our the million margin. reserve, Also, $X.X the in

by phases the release. tables find financial more the press information of can You in

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target, quarter of million impact and The inventory the seasonality. for third legacy quarter and of lower than flat due is liquidation lower other to of fixed in products an of million expired the million products EBITDA loss decreased XXXX, in a essentially of a of to margin revenue of adjusted from more maintaining $X.X QX fourth carries which XXXX the $X.X direct costs. while which impact $X.X contribution sustain, carry in write-off our approximately

items EBITDA adjusted impact positive other XXXX and a contains earlier. quarter the of described reserve, XXX,XXX, probably Third driven in liquidation and net by other recall, reversal

full-year our to Turning results.

well of and year $XXX.X XXXX, XXXX revenue attributable was XX.X% as increased XX.X% or The direct the net increased late launched of from increase volume existing period. $XX.X sales primarily from products XXXX. in as For to million growth million, to ago $XX.X new products, million in

Gross XX.X%. margin in from ago XXXX increased year to a

SaaS approximately and For revenue was our million. was launch XXXX, approximately million, million, approximately our $X.X sustain $XX.X our revenue revenue was $X.X

and revenue liquidation our was other Finally approximately for XXXX, $X.X million.

to contribution revenue Our reflecting full-year the of sustain economics. contribution both versus XX.X%, improved XXXX negative XXXX X.X% unit margin and of increased overall improved our margin

revenue, net was cost to essentially XXXX. revenue, costs as in as launch products XX.X% high $XX.X fixed for fixed $XX highlights or net business a keeping of in million, to percentage again, ability the of XX.X% while in as XXXX compared new Fixed degree a or million, percentage of and automation costs our flat. revenue, improvement grow our Thanks to our The model.

sustain this we margin As pathway to more function launched breakout keep the continuing reaching and costs expansion sustain our shows, to fixed products that products a profitability of believe being phase, our is of our and stable.

the have approximately products launched reminder, past XX% of our over sustain. a As year entered

growth our continued to improvement loss in of continue business $XX.X adjusted million improved to high flat, and as $XX.X thanks from loss our expense our from automation and is existing degree product costs The improvements our of in our our EBITDA our million new in minus minus revenue full-year attributable XXXX. model. fixed products we launches, in leverage XXXX to in grow a maintaining continued EBITDA operating essentially to the business

sheet. balance the to Turning

of XXXX, we had of end million, as the $XX.X $XX.X compared with December As of and $XX September the of at million XXXX. XXXX XX, December cash million

increased used Cash in operating provided activities cash was Chinese loss our Year, traditional activities XXXX, increased quarter for XXXX. the was and by cash to of $XX.X for the million on in and additional of impacted tariffs working capital, New hand the operating million, operating of because $X.X by the cash usage third impact threat of in of fourth seasonal quarter increased previously announced the quarter we as of third which compared in inventory

million, $X.X was third burn to the $X.X cash XXXX. million quarter Overall compared in of

loan, of our our of compared of a debt debt XXXX to borrowings It’s our December $XX increased as total the and of $XX.X quarter under third inventory. the XX, end term were is of $XX.X that increasing, credit million, Our facility as revolving at total XXXX. consisting reflection million direct million planned

to particular, our health based this the Shenzhen. affected by Moving are emergency, coronavirus. foremost, to the our With regard with global team first coronavirus, in everyone thoughts and in

too impact our early it on tell chain, meaningful any its of terms In still to disruption. will supply it is experience

our normal inventory we and impacted of business. the built Going as in the potential Year New The into Chinese with part anticipating of our new has that work we tariffs, ways. course up various various manufacturers

and for and running capacity, for close up of they full are still and capacity in schedule the are Mohawk workforce QX. it idle as some wait These are may product factories impact up Some to to ramping workers others their materially back. make slowly as starting launches return, delays

be launches also be of we delayed. products that XX that first up launched we double to the to new believe to continue timing will XXXX. amount We that may able during We’ll believe we’ll quarter. of in to in able the products to those be XXXX, continue But the launch

to and position. do resume our monitor the to XXXX. significant the of the impact second-half of coronavirus starting inventory, QX, obviously. We’ll We in relates replenishment to potential would not expect may adjusted more manufacturing course EBITDA. more of long business it inventory revenues situation As the capacity normal have should continue inventory impact April, shortages normal access to any to which in experience impacts and thanks our closely, not some meaningful But the – by end and first-half way very we on a from in

for XXXX. Guidance

inventory XXXX in late $XXX million of products products the company the growth primarily portfolio adjusted driven in impact incorporates existing potential we XXXX the quarter existing the for from and second-half third the XXXX, million, launches product to and constraints outlook potential the launched This be range in in net contribution and revenue to by primarily product XXXX. new due expects from delays of in still. the EBITDA year, our expect For new positive of COVID-XX, positive to currently the $XXX of continued

back for your the turn operator the With it to that, open to call I’ll questions.

Operator

question Your of line D.A. comes Davidson. from Tom Instructions] Forte of [Operator first the

open. now Your line is

Tom Forte

two questions. I Thank have Great. you.

tariff Prime. impact you it level, to I day it to to chain, what chain? First supply in your on to coronavirus and is to may you. the XXXX the having pertains at plays Amazon wanted China your know having a issue in wanted a if that you off the supply to you? and And on China high reconsider then in extent what moving one helping negative as XXXX issue then was extent role I Thank be know in

Fabrice Hamaide

those Thanks, questions. for Yes. Tom,

the ourselves indicated for closer the be it first because moving opportunity be in cost last shipping was move – if mile. as at one actually better consumers end ourselves the working to a nation, one on first, because to having back the margin expansion to one to of to we by day, the of the inventory the not across overall both service seller day had enabled fulfillment of we also moving it of actually the – the day the creating QX, quality therefore, and reduced one were So for as shorter last of an consumers, a but and

which that population. on be will we’ve the end operational have U.S. at shipping nine we’ll the prime we quarter have significant shipping of a coverage eight and over XX% And day by made will So the of warehouses one mean front. of progress March, of that now already continental

as to were saying and we’re right? moving first, following that that’s by on the back Yaniv to it such, So point. consumer Amazon, same the day what path, So one goes

and coronavirus our of on supply the the change site. On chain

the we one make elements sure stay is mean, I look of we we for that to against key that always as and before, competitive the the our right, So actually do said for driving and so provide competition, and that cost, look competitive our and best with the the to value quality competitors. of the consumers best we best therefore, can stay rest

Now, manufacturers – have we potentially with starting thanks be of our to to as are and moving enabling actually existing China will more, outside sourced we’ll a couple are of such, that away and manufacturers actually the said, new manufacturing look value that products from allow and and a QX in important, our actually the to is us away moving as ultimately same to ratio, really well. providing quality – to to cost will diversify and as China which and platforms tariffs consumer from be with better it actually

Tom Forte

Fabrice. Thank you,

Fabrice Hamaide

Yes.

Operator

of Kinstlinger Alliance of next Partners. from question line the Brian comes Global Your

is line Your now open.

Brian Kinstlinger

thanks Hi, questions. guys, for my taking

I first understand, wanted would release The million was revenue successful – launch and your the a revenue, one, to a think. I think, comments generate $X.X million, I before press product in $X.X annual

So with new right that impacted? annual is an $XXX,XXX supply now be bogey? would the is revenue issue you how of do chains the think understanding Or

Fabrice Hamaide

still comparable in it’s is, the why million million. we a you because to No, significant otherwise launched, that S-X. a look the at was of we number $X.X or definition $X.X The we the products $X.X more. new When new mentioned last of in graphic number have million reason product, year the S-X

we ones in reason that have both that on the launches So for $X.X of in plan, at why that reference, still XXXX be we’re overall, mentioned to average. doing and that’s million data. we so per year did we’re But XXXX that we compatibility the

Brian Kinstlingers

products, products. in too your And early, revenue the but may has those can non-environmental then early environmental talk it the past, obviously, by been the be successes, Great. driven you about

understand important it’s that going think, far? so how to is success I So

Fabrice Hamaide

Yes.

we’re I And obviously, of success got we launch, already – still our – the And XX% right? that, who made – new we’re XX% are not I right? that products out ratio, for are products out at success remember of who phase, the launch of of ones right? the So For launch, it’s we of made launch products, launched, came it, of still think, those we’re ratio. mean, out we of non-environmental all still at we XX

Brian Kinstlingers

which And commented XX you. new you you’ve in products. It then done. is about Got expected quarter, the first it. sounds Thank almost like

more you So that’s guess, is enough risk inventory I handling early be with at I difficulty all so are How getting assume you having going in to to shipments, meet my not to do I’m that? question demand? – close there.

Fabrice Hamaide

So understated. – our it’s It But no, otherwise, would was significantly successful those amazingly that that bland. process a And good mean the more replenishments products should be forecast and would depends question. that for actually actually three-month we we when work new four due between for products, inventory, build those well, and for right, inventory plus in those. course, of build months three remember and

the after actually on before if the right Chinese products those three That all of made New Year New all actually, water, made them of on almost four means on water, even them, them, actually Year manufacturers of Chinese of water. others it it of that and but all the got the

you of not before originally, back have if the end the QX a account to And of them, of time by of the and by unless coronavirus come QX to of manufacturing April up three – inventory April, of built new of for shortage the of come you launch we the capacity – clown beginning you the four then again, inventory if end end might does on therefore, months and QX. or beginning launches the those normal

Brian Kinstlingers

impact? debt to via was go e-commerce virus, timing to your more Great one because that purchase the impacting control? impacting having you receiving new to and like as of is question I you in how it this Last of shipment Amazon? Is any something guard subpar opposed shipments. people, retail you reading that’s again about out be I it anyway? And given thought have do may Are for I stores delays, ratings

Fabrice Hamaide

you’re what I’m that, – shipping about? you are question. and that because you So understand sure not that that on the – delays would demand therefore, talking saying I is creates Amazon more But

Brian Kinstlingers

that had not you if purchase an not all, might if shipping happening or an – that that I prime actually at or getting you’re curious that’s I issue is on I’m article e-commerce much an Is something of didn’t there at so days, that impacted experienced? all, and influx too be one two and Is dig that’s has getting it. two. going time or it given into one on? seen something just

Fabrice Hamaide

No, all. not at

seeing that all. We’re not at

Brian Kinstlingers

to Okay. you. Thank know. Great

Fabrice Hamaide

Yep.

Operator

Partners. comes question of Matt next Koranda Capital Your from ROTH the of line

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Matt Koranda

guys, and the thanks Hey, good evening, for question.

wanted XXXX. just million guidance of $XXX built $XXX and about guys back step think to So to you the how revenue for

million I the give XXXX, if it, off XX%, kind kind think of baseline it you in So XX%, year a for and a you to of $XXX million of call the XX%, $XXX range. about of million about maybe of, of baseline gets growth into $XXX that

there’s incremental, launches So call sort million coming $XXX that? to are we product assuming an to it, million built me $XX million from to million, you to talk of get $XXX that just about $XX to how

Fabrice Hamaide

Yes.

have revenue So that’s itself. one significantly is could because in the that it’s not have And we recognition The be numbers So pretty the year the it’s uncertainty right? the actually, second-half, launches from manufacturing which big a delayed, challenge we the just a of have is in challenge lower, actually perspective. of actually reason right? there, have – that we real right, we close, is, and

delays all process that our the therefore, that today, that cannot office, for not testing you office, we same you and to test and of of do testing the have therefore to have can launch the products, when And even our for want office be means time in When rotation Remember in who’s in limitations, apply that that actually and launch. example, validating for samples. you the time. at the so – of all same QC at we the China you have example, do employee our – employees have example,

key capacity some So of that of And that replenishment some since not elements. is stage. we at one all at as the may of issues manufacturers well experience the the XXX% with this manufacturers

potentially XX% on total a number the those you on in that launches, some of on base but the built so calculation timing impact than and the is not and existing in much recognition. the therefore, of have launches, revenue it So less the

Matt Koranda

some the sort makes it. higher. is That just we But of in Health or get And assume launches are sense. acquired product the to XX only products launches? Got from or organic counting to, that I product goal [indiscernible] still then not of Aussie

Fabrice Hamaide

It’s only organic. – XXX% organic

Matt Koranda

I Okay, perfect. then curious other about. And thing the was

as does of you’ve in impact if mean, to how positivity the the that seems begin EBITDA base QX? additional year, like factoring of hit bit that into your kind that launches given EBITDA the Or I profitability guide? from for of – some QX in it So spill launches is you case. much are back-half a guidance into already is that

Fabrice Hamaide

So would if to and because positive of you almost right, and as cash that no to launch EBITDA, you’re negative slightly sustain and remember QX. that, recognize well, break-even in QX have the being overall model, cash it’s example, investment the in actually with therefore EBITDA, that and it for the products six impact – go the cash you impact going the that launch it start in EBITDA would means QX, going because to approximately would the where being that QX, EBITDA you to delay points launch, in the months, The products maybe from the right? negative to you launch would impact to

XXXX, mean negative would that it you the be. Overall, bit XXXX growth because actually actually it would is that, EBITDA massively. right? – would to of it overall, That’s a get slightly what would see would more wash, not right, the – So it not but more actually impact, of really a mean it’s where impact in little you launches, XXXX – would

Matt Koranda

year, would theoretically, of that a $XXX significant XX in the Okay. QX, essentially? range, assume you’re bottom just were product of QX, portion And the the launches at that the range the down if the million mean back-half of I pushed into

Fabrice Hamaide

correct. That’s correct. That’s

Matt Koranda

on breakdown was the for versus Okay, color you got liquidation one, That’s see. And it. and the of SaaS helpful. launch helpful – super sustain to then thank last versus the sustain that

X% margin, XXXX. of In contribution calculating terms in sustain I’m north around of the the like something

range? sustained you bogey. Can margin of of goal in XX% are have do But that’s the where talk we we know multi-year we push the a of to contribution XX% like, how pull sort into the that in Can category XXXX? step? XXXX, think in What that is I should terms the or trend to headed? levers of about sort that get there is more it

Fabrice Hamaide

mix, remember actually the baseline, made of contribution a that up you which that, XX% XXXX. of baseline were if right, both at margin So XX% started that in is not historical in products

a So older that to for you than of positive be mean, cash they’re want than are that, going they’re right, is. still right? benefit get positive sustain, we maybe itself. So model the though, EBITDA, that the and in Once XX%, products not carry years, contribution I therefore, that’s it’s actually still stay and the you there positive great keep because marginal they’re percentage at to product them, would

one that’s element. key So

one the for products, target. we all of higher a actually second starting new are The at is actually

keep are So down, on as target logistics. when the products the particular, the moves that cost moved to Also, target new we sustain. in a now launch our improving we basis at XX%

that’s the going average. to So help overall

alone And and to from obviously. because why CM shipping. finally, add – average. at X.X actually zones, keep of overall, it day we on to approximately the we average X% reuses [ph] That’s the a zone to we the X.X% improvements, nine moving That doing one we warehouses cost looked one should on the the reason move just X.X, where additional are zone today of one right, zone had day,

economics, you the you therefore, And right, basis. then become the – purchasing you little more little unit and shop, margin Make gain usual CM a power bigger the have those on products, to you COGS that’s then overall overall it right? the that buyer the gross start on of on the process that sense? So and by is an which itself, working way

Matt Koranda

Yes. and I’ll jump clarity, sense. you in queue. Total the back for Thank guys,

Fabrice Hamaide

you. Thank

Operator

the of line question Allen next Securities. Klee comes National from of Your

is line now open. Your

Allen Klee

Hello. Yes.

get on from you normalizing explain You about April talked to that suppliers. that maybe what can think on? things you being space back when that your you’re What what basing

Fabrice Hamaide

right? to when So I April, April be doesn’t – potentially actually replenishing said hence that would didn’t would delays hey, get if – to say replenished we comes guidance, then and launches I by I better. in being problem that – why it normal further think we’re end of careful the hence have it to that

the is we moment, I what the tell have. approximately can we sourcing for that, that Now toll under you have

running that biggest today, And than our enough, for a reason let’s is international say, they of have domestic their capacity taking mediums, to as and dive XX% consumption being the therefore, actually more to domestic. allocated at domestic need example, their So interestingly much orders up capacity don’t of manufacturer close The actually manufacture is for to and overall. to needs. they

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Allen Klee

Thank you. Okay.

the how likely strategy at And negative about you think have least, about to that? – so fund cash the you’ll – what’s operating having first-half. in flows the, How funding

Fabrice Hamaide

million mean, burned we $XX So, in on QX. – I closed keep We million. $X.X we with

do because got and improvements, we��re as quarter with because seasonality, and you in And our know, actually of as going usual, working lowest So and to or one that it’s QX, increases. in the season actually, high a – capital QX cash, end from cash our point turns we but – got we’ve and particular, when of the lowest QX we’re QX inventory recoup both and of burn capital at perspective, to point, you working the be QX. QX then therefore,

fund with don’t have cash negative quarters next feel two any cash we have that that to the flows we on of don’t we cash the hand. So we believe actually like issue

Allen Klee

building on marketplaces understand on you than impact Okay. us that third-party can a How has help logistics the How you’re – positive out relying Amazon? your like rather as margins?

Fabrice Hamaide

Yes.

revenue much A the mean, to inventory, and What remember, significant that made very comes of it Amazon store. the biggest warehousing the everything want have. because – products are I oversized our don’t they of because have and reason charges set expensive. of as a oversized really So a space that is very its from shipping logistics needs that that is classified lot perspective being Amazon with get fulfill we of through product warehousing, too products it’s of is and mix promise, to takes which and it

problem And for actually “limited” warehousing is on them. in order do products oversized capacity, to that a

with expensive very investing the fulfilled logistics without moved by side. and CapEx we CBLs and that’s third-party warehousing so FBM warehousing reason partners, costs through own UPS. And ourselves, deals could because we through to they’re fulfillment FedEx having is doing doing by merchant, actually the better much So why – which get on

reason product same competitive, oversized actually That’s that could both have with the but significant via FBA consumers. actually a cost Amazon FBA, and XX% FBA sized quite fulfilled solution is to the best our approximately there the actually of actually to time reduce because at that the of still standard not we IBM, our fulfillment We margins, improve product products. significantly mix moved is of – to therefore, and portion We revenue right? very our why They’re cost remain significantly oversized. deliver they’re and because

Allen Klee

look you’re its companies? do label who at When other private or Interesting. brands, you to what CPG competing it with, find is mostly degree you Amazon

Yaniv Sarig

is Yes. Yaniv. Allen, this

really competitive bringing based products or to think landscape question. for different particular me Let we about a categories, way the the consumers stream in across good general, It varies of it. that in on looking demand are market is take It’s analysis right? the really of every the the product,

a seller in will enter AmazonBasics, well-known a of capabilities, their sort is it, a from And strong stream on-demand was we manufacturer. that a or brand, search perspective, good digital in certain competition we very thought it’s not if that third-party irregardless that the category of media

any spaces competitor, to with same can that the strong on the through time, certain at as beat we’re data focus in advantage against software again, and really we going there’s but every of more attention through data again, where every entering the stream there. that demand out nature have, too point pay be So always whether actually see going else. the of is telling type that without In landscape, of we and to someone time, like an some the that there’s to it’s categories much really them. the And us it’s too we every particular not But going in competitor obviously possible to there we competition right? traditionally, avoid to going be

Allen Klee

what said – revenue, Okay. know you’ve lot we give question a in thing you at final what but kind quarters what it and look of is? given percent show you of if My Thank last would of of today? of you. can you the a up the one will sense could think of in of from is on what If you’ve us all pieces, of you the maybe kind the XXXX, of, each seasonality based quarters us – just help

Yaniv Sarig

Yes.

know that you ones been the year one know, rest place don’t not it’s products mean, of the the ideated that I on that based existing I we in we what the we of products of not have I products have before, right? all will launch seasonality those of yet the course, identified, seasonality but or because, challenges. the as in and know date, for the So know yet identified

movement, than So it’s distribution always from moment a brought Speakers]… but distribution in any don’t the had we should of be perspective to less for XXXX for XXXX expect essentially terms of revenue the subjected change that [Multiple the same or more we in

Allen Klee

so Thank Okay. you much.

Operator

next of Partners. [Operator of comes question Alliance Instructions] Global from Brian Kinstlinger line the Your

line is now open. Your

Brian Kinstlinger

Yes, great.

Just one follow-up.

that been that lead And so some a the believe another with a that that there customers can been it well much Have guys trend, could you We I’m haven’t impact year? at just wondering, flattish. this year, trying in point start any talked in to much about change obviously, the SaaS to we in or be as we while. see has business profile see potential may revenue discussions to

Yaniv Sarig

again, This of very, we’re is about very us. In is SaaS Yaniv, it high very I’ll that. take general, excited for much it’s – still and opportunity, the priority

the a the we’re it the hires As business. a made talking print quick you us, side Marketplace to And kind few software couple by releases Microsoft had sellers. our know, grow also of to little Amazon I’ve again, of about expanding of press on this fact putting of Marketplace also the we’ve bit, sellers that a in for help the

active companies different variety native right and XX brands. you bit of with to little a brands include categories larger Just product large having conversation we’re digital of a give that – approximately now, numbers, and negotiations across some

in a two signed couple beyond. and to the up to expect we first of really of invest the already of going year. are months the And side see in contracts to in and QX We base continue the the picking business

So very much a priority.

made exciting. product and conversations the in is again few We’re our and offering changes We’ve edge. on a so we’re having to investing far

Brian Kinstlinger

Thank you. Great hear. to

Operator

continue. this at Speakers, further are There questions no you may time.

Ilya Grozovsky

you our joining us with communication forward look call. Thank We you. on for to the next

Fabrice Hamaide

Thank you.

Yaniv Sarig

Take care.

Fabrice Hamaide

everyone. Bye,

Ilya Grozovsky

Everyone else has left the call.

Operator

concludes tonight’s This call. conference

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Aterian (ATER) 10 Mar 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript