ECOL - Earnings call transcript Q4 2018

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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2018 U.S. Ecology Earnings Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded. to conference like Gerratt. to now would turn over the Eric I go Please ahead.

Eric Gerratt

thank us for morning you Good and joining today.

Chief Executive Joining me Chief President and Feeler; and President Steve of are morning Simon Sales and Executive Vice and Vice on the Executive call Officer, this Operating Bell; Officer, Welling. Marketing, Chairman Jeff

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Jeff Feeler

results. Thank you, this start Eric additional to comments a few fourth morning’s I'll I our good Ecology we for with of then opening very back some out results before financial for out morning call everyone. fourth up our and Yesterday, close on Eric, XXXX quarter will year turning overview details summary questions. call closing quarter strong our for an strong a released yesterday, on reported call the before the XXXX. US with for outlook have a in

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reach ensuring work certain customers reroute additional and of working facilities other meantime, services Department with are be In performs site We the and no streams to we'll Idaho continue the service. network waste resuming our we in XXXX. disruption phases the into to with of our Quality leveraging our in throughout Environmental geographic

through covered all, are insurance not efforts and reimbursed be facilities rebuild we expect that by these if will policies. Our most,

previously financial our interruption which as from weeks six lost current business will at business fourth waste be million $X of impact has we proceeds. and that looking incremental been we results, adjusted and recoveries our disposed expect facility EBITDA, million of recaptured addition, In quarter of some is for that in costs received Idaho will non-operational in well approximately XXXX and through the interruption policies. be the be business to In for XXXX as estimate $X year the

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insurance business the for quarter facility XXXX included results interruption Our in the XXXX rebound million XXXX also hurricanes. Fourth $X.X treatment business March reflect recoveries fourth from quarter event. weather a adjusted a of XXXX EBITDA damaged

growth headwinds of considering segment difficult our also environmental led Business, Our same from which the growth saw last by the was XX% was hurricanes. strength period the in as compare services increased of of XXXX revenue quarter facility strong on recovered the during Idaho Base we Business Base This non-operating impressive top quarter. a given and from it our X% year

higher showed cleanup projects. year fourth two on Business Our multiple Base also shipments the from a growth X% in quarter

was waste continued transportation, Our quarter, XX% business generation same total combination growth Field Industrial a during small growth operations. year Services the of acquired organic and last quarter momentum as the Organic in and from result lines. quantity growth its up recently our of management a execution above up and service solid XX%

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and forma As We I reflect on pro delivered saw revenue XX% XXXX, the throughout adjusted the we growth of of growth organization. year full XX%. strong execution EBITDA

our offering XXXX Our that will team a coast acquisitions strategic our and in of whole service in presence growth the position beyond. for list Gulf enhanced two and completed that then and us undertook strengthened initiatives

back underlying I'll and macro to we our picture, healthy it business Looking With believe remains support the growing XXXX. continued Eric. at turn that, momentum activity the will in and call

Eric Gerratt

Thanks, Jeff.

was million for shown the quarter fourth fourth increase XXXX. quarter of compared Slide fourth and XX% driven was Services Revenue in $XX.X X, quarter of increase revenue for from segment and Environmental for service X% a XX% treatment fourth by a revenue XXXX was transportation As up the last revenue. million, in $XXX.X in in the disposal $XXX.X This million increase to $XXX.X year. on million the quarter the

As Business treatment last for Event segment last X% represented up was the Services and fourth for disposal to revenue. Environmental and year Business Base of year quarter increased Services revenue. mentioned, fourth treatment the represented the X% quarter Environmental and disposal XX% XX% Jeff the segment of the from and

up approximately increase and This Services and the X% XXXX. Industrial Idaho Business quarter was based segment X% up XXXX, Dallas Texas. in fourth Business the Field of million Event and million XX% compared reflects to Excluding of in acquired facility, XXXX. quarter of Industrial of The from Field XXXX of fourth in of the approximately Services the quarter revenue $XX.X increased delivered our our $XX.X fourth and fourth out Group Midland, recently quarter Base

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X% was year. in of Turning million from quarter to last XX, gross XXXX, down Slide the fourth in million quarter $XX.X $XX.X the same profit

a were for from portion in business $XX.X Environmental in the gross quarter decrease as XXXX. The the mix, segment in primarily bargaining million, profit an of year we of fourth interruption in $X.X in million ratification Idaho compared for that with five of down year. Selling, general business. million due two $X.X bad recognized was by Services quarter to last was XXXX of Services quarter XXXX, in in being up debt from profit bonus segment partially of XXXX. disposal labor of fourth insurance higher facility increase $XX.X higher agreements. million fourth compared incentive XXXX. fourth from in to of to our service collective non-operational primarily as million expenses. fourth same margin unexpected the unfavorably impacted attributable last contributed fourth the and compensation, were administrative and the Treatment the margins and quarter was $XX.X favorable XXXX. million the This in recorded renewal was to and was fourth the Industrial Our year. in $XX.X XX% Gross XX% XX% higher quarter a and Gross fourth the our the quarter XX% in XX% the consulting of quarter quarter of quarter spending, or quarter margins the the Services fourth million This Gross we on in quarter less SG&A, XXXX proceeds professional up of associated was $XXX,XXX of well $X.X services Industrial

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segment million services in million Slide for total was on Revenue revenue Turning was compared full to $XXX.X million the $XXX up compared million, $XXX.X XXXX for XXXX for to for environmental to X% XXXX. XXXX. $XXX.X in results XX, the year

or $XXX.X million segment and in to $XX.X to Field Net $X.XX for compared XXXX, XXXX, for up million income to share per XX% for $X.XX to $XXX.X share was Services adjusted $XXX.X million XXXX. delivered per was was XXXX earnings per $XX.X revenue Pro $XXX.X which compared share in XXXX. of Industrial compared $X.XX was XXXX. forma million million, $X.XX diluted Our EBITDA diluted Adjusted for in XXXX. million compared or

to of million we Turning from Slide generated XX, operations cash XXXX. in $XX.X

capital $XX.X million paid dividends invested $XX.X projects to out also We million and stockholders. in our in

of net received capital projected proceeds less damaged as from lower capital we offset a now was Our was $XX.X net activities and property expenditures, as capital equipment cash than increased free than expenditures. cash operating insurance flow, This million. of by we provided which anticipated defined by working lower result

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Jeff Feeler

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spending estimate will will capital. maintenance landfill $XX XX% million range new on ROIC our we remaining million. XXXX, For Approximately capital between projects XX% $XX high capital on that construction, this spending on and be XX% the of and

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Operator

with session. We will go James. first now [Operator begin question-and-answer to Tyler the And Instructions] we Raymond Brown will

Tyler Brown

good guys. Hey, morning

Eric Gerratt

Good Tyler. morning,

Tyler Brown

Hey.

add us here to to and it few it's straight, seems Grand all it? your $XXX be that back there gave sure So we the make slides in in idea quite with operations. core moving you kind XXXX, of a that the basic have some gist million, just the in I View, for pieces remarks, help definitely of but the may add start then takeout so be M&A we Is for and

Jeff Feeler

mean Yeah. obviously. what deliver M&A that I take it Tyler, this XXXX, think from we add and we I we Jeff. and then that organic on in – the at subtract what is add I way look an delivered is top perspective of can

So I little at differently. it bit look a

Tyler Brown

confused – with little So I'm with the Grand a View.

$X to way million something $X So like million and to is at the is the $X incremental incremental? million the it's Or you saw million $X it that not $X million million more QX? to to in $X to look

Jeff Feeler

up is $X again. million is million to range Tyler, is this be did $X could View incident way of Jeff in it $X that we'd the range that the impact incrementally our the in you million look Grand happen, would not if to $X at range. see million Yeah, The

Tyler Brown

business Okay. include doesn't does And in it? or interruption that that recovery

Jeff Feeler

not. would It

Tyler Brown

It would not, okay.

Jeff Feeler

the includes to assuming million benefits we and what will the recover but event actually it, think is $X there Our analysts from referenced that not that million your guidance happen. this for we did $X in we

Tyler Brown

maybe color And then a expense? maybe some interest even little D&A model disconnect I've there the amortization, feeling you underneath some of between on intangibles. moving amortization things and are Can EBITDA okay. Okay, EPS. a specifically EBITDA having got give Eric, on I'm

Eric Gerratt

this Tyler, Eric. is think, I

expense. biggest interest the one – of think the I drivers is

Tyler Brown

Okay.

Eric Gerratt

Winnie facility through November, on that in we revolver. our we So when pull-downs acquired the acquired

about So million. was it $XX

in driving the expense are incremental $X borrowings those XXXX in those XXXX. interest million-ish over So we up and expect drive range to

that's drivers. think I your biggest one So of

Tyler Brown

Okay.

Eric Gerratt

the did. and to on be that we amortization up depreciation expect based acquisitions do We

assets higher as then are those So with asset fixed intangible well bringing assets and on the as amortization. obviously the

that shows you our breakdown guidance of amortization D&A table built into And were of $XX versus so, that intangibles for about including but there of release million - in relative they the shows to what's numbers is $XX talking $XX XXXX, million you total XXXX the about a those in EBITDA in you're million kind what is D&A of XXXX.

So due those incremental numbers acquisitions. growth there primarily is to in those

Tyler Brown

Yeah, lot obviously then okay, you from about we That's in Or is so think XXXX the on CapEx a curious And heavy perfect. how an maybe year XXXX? very, helpful. spending very about I'm on Would So step just to self-development. side, think that? and CapEx you're self-development? beyond? how in XXXX should see we down exceptionally expect CapEx should

Simon Bell

this we a our I'll is forward. technical a a Yeah, the redesign construction seeing lot essentially through Simon what pushed the went certainly in Michigan. nuances, is speaking here. of XXXX, it of but avoid landfill did, Yeah, we're landfill it what

be is precipitated the of just these and inventory normally heavy in have the but come what landfill changes levels, in that will and a more design to Michigan we followed have some, fact, think, normal because thereafter, by we was year we'll levels than will normal XXXX maybe in even decreasing a larger a sequencing also expect I XXXX, that I might back done doing building changes. So kind more

Tyler Brown

these ROIC can high guys maybe examples Okay, of might then that on allocated be? what give CapEx projects, the is XX% of you And budget okay. That's some helpful. towards just very the that

Simon Bell

can. certainly I Yeah,

more on facilities. organics expanding at maybe markets we're things metals such our We're expanding doing recycling – as in blending introducing We're the the technologies, introducing do new front. fuels multiple the the looking there's of – of expansion areas. technologies from can potentially both So different We're We capabilities. different current on same.

all our at base need our customer evaluating additional existing facilities, demands and we're has of So service for. a additional that

here that as think to be coming technologies of we'll being should with at capabilities lot combined be that XXXX. would larger market some small multiple organic I facilities that of so And it evaluating in introduced a

Tyler Brown

maybe last right. then helpful. And Okay, one for Steve, just

Just of side any world. color on event the the

were optimistic just that RFPs So like there. on general Just is more that at a back quarter goes kind And just Event on helpful but you Jeff's be based to it guys awarded? would maybe feels Or bit and a more of thoughts are of events kind been feeling? than any is positive work. have that question, picture commentary big last

Steve Welling

both. of little Sure. It's a bit

We larger in from projects first that's that XXXX, the multiple piece. XXXX continuing are have

that two that were in we are had early we but start Event of top We starting all which and everything, will really had late the good weather awarded plus believe can on start XXXX have larger if of in that, cold projects the the was QX giving year. continue we in a that rest good work QX, Midwest, on that optimism is us the in a

Tyler Brown

Okay, Thank okay, good. I appreciate it. you guys. for time, the

Jeff Feeler

Tyler. Thanks,

Eric Gerratt

Thank you, Tyler.

Operator

next Stifel. go with We'll Instructions] Butler to [Operator Brian

Brian Butler

for questions. thanks morning, taking Good my

Jeff Feeler

Hey, Brian.

Brian Butler

Hey.

year I of, is be of kind I you've highlighted $X the want – half to million the back $X guess the or that's on you not in full View, this just just is part It to guidance, it's with maybe consider in – when start, just that of only? assumes to Grand the assumes Grand that million Or assuming that in your the and current this XXXX? landfill Just that gradually guidance. clear is the this phased View current that services

Jeff Feeler

is – Jeff. is this this So Brian,

the So the to year. that have operations half we of the first current landfill half resume we the direct the of back normal and assumes in guidance year

Brian Butler

Okay.

Jeff Feeler

services, then the on majority towards of Brian, we year side, half. the have that operations treatment for back those the and So, the landfill particularly really

Brian Butler

of favorably? specifically how to another Okay, the that makes about off, you work been continued the XXXX, on then up And like clear, place new continued that the just one, ones into Or be that out? sense. main project running? follow have you of should with rolling think what's – just project that has have side, in think I'll Or still the some the on chains status we project those those and extended do when

Jeff Feeler

here started strong that now ongoing. just The the or kicking have between two. mentioned is is we in phases be And just should Northeast in – quarter. We're right this just on this again we project up other strong out project and month you a off kicking

there's couple So, all XXXX that again awarded are in moving we're that couple have kicking additional that off are are of that for contracts in a scheduled plus – we months. a XXXX

an confident pipeline So this to a year trend, pointing be have and downward a trend. it we we nothing good feel is should upward

Brian Butler

should good on the event hear. a be Okay, going the little how all color view – as integration Field in the base the on is as progressing and kind And running both of space? it statement, how to through just we to well you income that then and Services Ecoserv, that think or on about

Jeff Feeler

Yeah.

Jeff. just November, new is our run but but services, It's front difficulties closed something existing we're in on some services. we customers a as customers to we're not this standpoint, service services that sell an segment. to was as of complementary really we'll So, Business. there integrate through, of attract any opportunities through industrial as cross-sell our gain in will well it opposed continuing that access up predominantly is to There environmental to we there it are and lot our it's in how as to statements. projects middle as business wallet us share It's we to expand which integration From – that customers base Base go anticipating the well opens for attracted were Winnie, financial

it added the side. in our and will our segment, but things, vast from some Field Environmental Services the of benefits in be in our So there side synergy side, Industrial Services services be will of majority

Brian Butler

of Business the from and Base that – is And deal sounds that organic? Business so of mostly Or coming is like Business that when benefit the is think that guidance, including these revenues? Base Base kind it's including you

Jeff Feeler

It's organic.

Eric Gerratt

clear, so and Ecology the roll Yes. Brian, field be roll in will to back acquisitions And Winnie segment, will services and Dallas the segment. within Midland and industrial we services just US did everybody, September the environmental for acquisition through that our up

Brian Butler

industrial coming any impact on globally? kind or more one for have through production then me, customers automotive kind we've that on seen Okay, your consequences of of that last [indiscernible]. slowdown And Has volumes? any had any seen you from of knock the

Eric Gerratt

we back Nothing the continued we No, strong of. so know good so quarter in first no. fourth far, in and a Midwest – it's had quarter we

Brian Butler

the you taking for thank questions. Okay, very much

Jeff Feeler

Thanks, Brian.

Eric Gerratt

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

go KC we'll Bauer next with And Tyson Capital. to

Tyson Bauer

Good gentlemen my colleague. to and condolences morning, your

Eric Gerratt

you. Thank

Jeff Feeler

Thank you, Tyler.

Tyson Bauer

the pay-down on questions. behind after future year, couple you what M&A? debt how you have this is that quick be next of the after anticipate revolver doing with think deals? that quick that of decision down so, a was and to get think you you'll straight year The You do going if What and

Eric Gerratt

is at our Yeah, Yeah, has facility favorable Eric. Tyson, our of looked we is factor this really credit part terms. still – biggest

this fixed about we're X.X%-ish. about on at portion, X.X% variable we the at that's XX:XX today between variable – we're which that have the is at So point the we're rate about portion, and portion, fixed on versus

at nature pipeline look it said, that you, less on and would chose continue to about in the M&A good down it cash. in be pretty look so debt facility us projects CapEx to to continue modeled facility, the down feel the flows in and we that the I So during we That acquisition that gives at of could favorable just capital, and million – M&A, that flexibility XXXX. could pay see for the because year. growth things the draw tell what guidance, to that of potential based of down to and we be how more, being $XX it we've

Tyson Bauer

Fed Eric, rate. for credit interest I will to that thought you're pause going being on a take take clairvoyant the

Eric Gerratt

that. No, I won't take credit for

Tyson Bauer

permits gone there's to or hurdles, the a you've – it's by that clear there? processes Michigan, through free expand local and appeals in no The those all the level state more process Okay. passed is

Simon Bell

legislation Yeah, you established statute, that accepting the continue to in ability will, kind to important has accept and of that if advanced very our some that we completed, material.

So we pleased with were very there. the outcome

Tyson Bauer

have in the near-term? And to that started so material you or anticipate accept doing

Simon Bell

the Yes, to receiving we that future. we material we continue and be will have, in

Tyson Bauer

in that types there allow $X Okay. there are or – what treatment to treat to rebuild? you In that of to plant expand you you able plan to treat, what's the you can permits looking when try View, million will and regards the in to rebuild materials Grand you're with capacity the the

Simon Bell

It's Yeah, this is excellent again. Simon an question. Tyson,

out going not a plans. position scope, certainly lay the to the in through specific are probably We

market we what a such We footprint build, way about be geographic strategic the to today, the we can broad today. how have really on focus best rebuild,

optimize opportunity tragedy this the the whole will provide take we world-class across but the first a Certainly, design. certainly opportunity this design. an our felt to some facilities that So will is was efficiencies Company, to put into and

Tyson Bauer

fines, taken Idaho wait for going is that also or see we or or from Is was OSHA of State liabilities kind legal covered taking pending Or it either of see any year? may EPA reserves that forward? what Eric, insurance? reserves this and come a up under Okay. may and decision not environmental later the on

Eric Gerratt

Tyson. the we under insurance of the like this mitigation reason things part second any those your I of at expect proceedings of kinds would question, that or point. best we would that the programs. Yeah, is to don't biggest And answer fall have tell our do you,

Tyson Bauer

you, thank gentlemen. Okay,

Eric Gerratt

Tyson. Thanks,

Operator

BMO And we'll Capital go next to with Jeff Silber Markets.

Jeff Silber

much. guidance. to so the issues wanted I within you your some Thank on focus of back

Business, growth I to mentioned. you're And acquisitions that with remember I looking excludes growth. longer-term – That's you the Base for think the I some in it line that know that if your Specifically, the I X%, correctly. that of think X%

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Jeff Feeler

Jeff. Yeah,

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of guidance I So top with was the regard that's Base Base really to Business from perspective. X%, our X% what a better mean expected is than on to Business XXXX on

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Jeff Silber

Seasonality.

Jeff Feeler

Seasonality.

Okay, yes.

expect you very I to had what to the seasonality, similar previous So, we've years. it be would in – would

year be I heightened Grand bit building think – of lowest a capabilities First more may the back with quarter year the and quarter in gradually little View will more our year. this becoming be with the of it it half with regard to –

be we've So seen with half what expect I the would meaningful past. the prominent back that in than and to

Eric Gerratt

this Yeah, that. to is add Eric, Jeff, just to

the typical, we've which our be to quarter quarter, lowest first lowest years. is expect our quarter, we several as seasonally seen So for

expect that back we usual just Jeff's as View still to may second year, stronger point, will that this we – comes online. the half for we see but So be seasonally than Grand even

Jeff Silber

impact missed fourth quarter great. in made you fourth the the forgive Okay, disclose on you two revenues? the me quarter did And if this, I acquisitions of but

Eric Gerratt

not, we did We not. did

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Jeff Silber

or more CapEx revenues the Okay, finally, normal. as what we of a use dollar amount? great, CapEx words the is Thanks. discussion some there normal Can percentage term us that's either be a helpful. longer some think more to range remind about was you over I and And

Jeff Feeler

be on up but next then million, that range. $XX we to we this range off year out construction, and we to this there. is $XX probably $XX then Yeah, to year, XXXX, could And in saw if $XX $XX be to year we'll falling look landfill probably million so million back from of million when similar south a million, that depending

Jeff Silber

saw say you or? saw XXXX in this When year,

Eric Gerratt

sorry, I'm up. what seeing so good in seeing we're I'm XXXX, follow

this think And redeploying that to we've of why on of lot lot one in capital been we is our in on opportunities. out. spending things a capital heightening that's is are the mind I on a of attention keep growth

at running landfill baseline year-to-year. what probably is run other that's Michigan landfill, in and comes going phases. to on a look XXXX. right do. is an the it's five important in and the landfills, in timing. we out Simon timing three from you top on years one that to and XXXX that built what once construction. of of do or Typically, it's major is. that I And One think, from in $XX build anywhere construction With an was is this it's What we going the some of give million you years to maintenance year year landfill redesign those need And additional multiple, and five around periods can more out volatility landfill is it's really this depending If on that it facilities comment the causes then airspace is as that's capital, one our in is that older of we have and two the because get to that of built airspace landfill, after mentioning us

landfills we're when from construction, significantly. we're looking And landfill, three years now, to dropped so out especially going Michigan our our at see

And so, it now. is a right timing area

Jeff Silber

much. that's really right, color. I All the helpful. so Thanks appreciate

Jeff Feeler

Jeff. Thanks,

Operator

would turn back our any to Jeff remarks. to session. [Operator over Instructions] concludes conference This the Feeler like I closing question-and-answer for

Jeff Feeler

for quarter a interest in the who part I results day. to Have Company of you first first giving those an April, May. end on update today thank participated great want our forward at the and look of to

Operator

attending The for presentation. now conference has concluded. Thank today's you

US Ecology (ECOL) 22 Feb 192018 Q4 Earnings call transcript