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Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Robert Half Fourth Quarter 2017 Conference Call.

Our host for today's call are Mr. Max Messmer, Chairman and CEO of Robert Half; and Mr. Keith Waddell, Vice Chairman, President and Chief Financial Officer. Mr. begin. may you Messmer,

Max Messmer

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Keith Waddell

you, Max. Thank

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revenues December XX.X% versus last up increase reported operations, placement year permanent to XX.X% full quarter. for compared Our the were

the we $X,XXX a following quarter. We the our and our limit January. can information With holiday revenues, today's XX%. X they know, to the $X,XXX But too to saw one this hesitate as XX.X% compared the to SEC share, to were on brief midpoint offer estimates of volatile. year. first mentioned billion, guidance billion basis they period into quarter offer per of represent subject implies growth income to call we we that The placement in during and in which to X.X% said, including quarter a quarter we designed and first year-over-year revenue cover guidance revenues read glimpse fourth last release up periods the For press January, in first are in provide All same trends same-day, constant-currency Protiviti, $X.XX. into risks $X.XX guidance, weeks our to permanent them, is growth and on filings. EPS time as periods, of be you This much of

Now I'll back turn over the to Max. call

Max Messmer

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Operator

the [Operator Instructions] from question Andrew line comes from JPMorgan. of Your first Steinerman

is ahead. Your line Please open. go

Andrew Steinerman

to Andrew. of about margin And growing U.S., the is much to sense international just difference, the I the a ask faster operating margin? margin versus how It's so get I'd now. difference, business that's wanted into mixing international Hi. you just like because

Keith Waddell

Well, dilution never margin the up. modest margin the U.S. dilutive the international some as results as margins. out margins overall is to one other. the growing quickly But operating are well more specifically U.S., catching broken dilution there that somewhat is versus than We've international from the gross although

Andrew Steinerman

just rate increases you were tell rate could me bill wage quarter increases the - the fourth And in and quarter? what Great.

Keith Waddell

Right.

X.X% rates that up rates pay yet. to turn hadn't to were is have quarter, rates market trend bill bill in far so in certainly ever we've it Logic tighten, and been frugal X.X% more observe numbers. that that candidate clients but increases our expansion compares more would are We and the intuitively, would year-on-year, the say, those counter somewhat the to than this so seen. similar. and as And last will But continues pushback around, provided in

Andrew Steinerman

Appreciate Thank Okay. you. it.

Operator

Our from Baird. next question Marcon R.W. comes Mark from

Your line is open.

Mark Marcon

think opine RH was you But a so but changes tax demand Good impact to a from but the for Management Obviously, Resources within taking sense how tax and you're Protiviti. of you're afternoon. point is any passed that the rate just And as are question. Accountemps if you. up this impacting your little didn't late could quarter, on the that? have well at end Thanks field, - as as the hearing somewhat going see in fourth you my bit corporate legislation clearly - One, speculative, wondering Thank in what what follow-up. in time. then I is the

Keith Waddell

Mark, that, even our better, optimism quarters, whether more last is regulatory is the tax X and the expectation So sentiment growth there's many sense, better. that question reform, it no for reasons, is the positive of be GDP relief

of single look better and year in where our sequential quarter third look growth the year-on-year if you sequential year-on-year a growth than growth, both the at in If line U.S. the sequential in quarter, every the rate rare at the year, our you the it's non-U.S., growth pretty growth where rate business, improved quarter the fourth growth the rate quarter. this last year-on-year was rate versus where for

So optimism, of some to the projects, more best better which urgency, all again, ever of we've sentiment, sense experienced. led more of sentiment better

Mark Marcon

wondering it follow great. little well. expanding later - - a the more don't you I Because that, as typically just on can about Protiviti end at talk about you but rules. up comments want And the you That's talk to bit - could of about the I'm then if

a you you how so terms how terms additions we additions? clearly more going we going of headcount little expect about in expansion? could I'm in in of that are So revenue, they wondering Are should along should elaborate far of terms - think What the if just that? headcount bit to were precede to

Keith Waddell

fourth grew year. first so all, prior Well, Operating XX% income versus a particularly the of Protiviti quarter. had good

by single got which for Resources, large ends, If Management low pipeline you project look Protiviti first with combination our for revenue joint digit we've the cloud, the offset guidance accounting. into couple projects strong growth, in security, tech a is quarter, of lease a

not a look additional a you in such marketing, at investing when in are margin, training, they anticipation also heads, but again, better expectation, only from will our perspective, that Protiviti impacts pipeline probably all Given in that gross which gross recruiters, margin of guidance income basis actually for XXXX SG&A the be year-on-year. to But full year-on-year. XX the operating down up year-on-year. points our be basis our quarter probably down XX up XX for of that points basis points. will XXX XX points Operating expectation margins year basis

to that So balance apply expect first of on more make would infrastructure and but the impact that we're the positive seeing profitability, first sentiment that staffing side quarter, than In to the some XXXX. people quarter Protiviti. making we they're in also the up investments

Mark Marcon

great to That's you. Thank hear.

Operator

from McVeigh Your next Bank. question comes Kevin from Deutsche

Your open. is line

Kevin McVeigh

Thanks. Great.

that environment. given it kind kind the We're not are where proceeds cycle, on then do overall? like year, as follow-up. And thoughts what the really cycle, in the you'll lower you'll kind rate a Is given and the Just of pricing GDP, new trends a demand tax function of the effective but in just with to of relates tax, have it of the any a tax? the feels the

Keith Waddell

sense Well, it's of benefit our a clients, feels in, says what and there's are certainly cycle. reenergized to our it to renewed also into all there's urgency like there's renewed don't question renewed XXXX. inning there's of us demand, know. energy, quarter no expected we that a which continue with But Exactly fourth we're

our whether have to cash Further, that expense. prioritize the business, motivating best very benefits, to very already As We let's people. that capital need be we a retaining have sheet. use of need balance free attracting, we first, or flow, they already we're grow tax - our investments committed to and always say, strong we strong very

retention in people long-term the industry. rates of best Our our are unquestionably the

Our place, will cash wise stay many view that and tie years dividends. our tax not of for rates. in likely, it's will to more plans to flow is capital there policy compensation means, be buybacks And allocation ultimately, which directly

Kevin McVeigh

then 'XX? just, days for through And the can run Super. Keith, you billing

Keith Waddell

Sure.

quarter, XX.X, Overall, quarter, XX.X. first XX.X, XXX.X. third quarter, fourth second So quarter XX.X,

Kevin McVeigh

you. Thank

Operator

comes question next BMO Markets. from Jeff Your from Silber Capital

line open. Your is

Jeff Silber

much. Thanks so

Focusing less ramp-up temporary to go side know did mentioned and two ago, comp is consulting on you else in year the relative and Or anything there business, in margins of headcount. had workers' on your the the operating that I benefit a it a unit? you year-over-year. on Are the those down reasons? in going

Keith Waddell

Okay.

and guidance. fourth talk quarter, quarter let's talk first So first let's then

quarter, we headcount the from deleverage we've quarters. talked several fourth front-ending So for clearly, about headcount had that

in to which the incur for capitalized. we about the that, IT they cost traditionally talked in means going us have investment to for get IT transition also internal platforms, us - whereas addition space, expensed, In from means around the which which those this Salesforce, past, been we've would for Software-as-a-Service implementation Workday, space,

So years, $XX million year. million ranging were if you our look few to back a a $XX capital expenditures

more in $XX And they're in SG&A. range million all expense, the year. quite Now differential million a all it's frankly, to is $XX the of in

range is Our with million or is for But point XXXX the guidance those in expense. consistent costs trend. million pressure because SG&A of CapEx, to on $XX which is, it that $XX puts

of staffing about revenue [ph] while basically talked because guidance into let's about from notwithstanding got the we we've ended guidance guidance down talking Protiviti. So the talk we're We stronger. about fourth standpoint already generally, a quarter, repeat a

year higher we of be had think a it we which about XX sequentially be basis reasons we'll the the XX because from for when up revenues, to because headcount we'll higher SG&A down the to XX year-on-year for higher because XX go We I and SG&A I basis because SG&A XX XX IZ be and another margins talked points weather operating of be the January. which, to down again, to of But points, basis only down that gross XX standpoint, the points will points of investments, about you higher the but leverage points the of margin, credits will year-on-year to revenues. talked of the get up midpoint lower basis the spoke earlier. X.X for would we to impacts discrete quarter mix, From sequentially XX%, At to. related while occurred. of just of be add the and gave, to standpoint, be the full points not compensation. to near like tech growth the higher, have is we year-on-year, some first We from point line, a which because would while XX%, Further, had basis of to range flat expect be more of month estimate have XX.X% lack fringes, but tax XX for we during rate it'll because expect margin to X stock items gross of sequentially we'll larger

of inclusive drivers So color But two our generally, that's tech and on SG&A. of headcount implementation some SG&A. cost guidance the are expensed

Jeff Silber

Okay. follow-up, focus much. That's on you might so helpful. RH to Thanks you there year-over-year. be Can going slightly down, really what just to a improve although Technology. talk and try to My trajectory? Still what's bit little on I about going wanted that doing internally

Keith Waddell

did versus we are, with slightly Well, growth had sequential while quarter consistent quarter quarter. tech the than we it's in and see did a-year-ago growth down true X%, sequentially, the year-on-year we divisions, fourth fourth this other the more we're third facts

time for that down last the we're very first the year-on-year about. several we've growth that But quarters got in quarters, sequential negative. been good tech happy we've actually in news still the we're given few is So

Jeff Silber

so Thank much. great. you Okay,

Operator

Blair Company. Your McHugh comes next & Tim William from from question

Your line is open.

Tim McHugh

growth you the leverage? willing of have you to guess, there about made then the would mind investments get to a regard And following SG&A you you've Would talk year? versus on leverage, cost full to to some up expect about where and puts factors Keith, is the rate and takes would expensing for with on kind I you of just start of in capitalizing it? comments be Thanks. kind overcome other the

Keith Waddell

Right.

that's a leverage just now we accounting give year heads revenues don't the a to less would the that hopefully, to implementation for we while observe would see XXXX, couple that a so of when re-reviewing From leaning we that a and like perspective, full so are year for the those Software-as-a-Service. we'll they actually that, basis, And overall, start no software, from year heads but grow the guidance hasn't that And years the there. leverage told did we're expect to carried headcount full front-ending we've yet. tech you than they're of FASB than faster grow our that, happened by And you full license grow such on would that XXXX a in accounting costs nice standpoint, some investment relative to traditionally phenomenon. capitalizing way, think types I we

Tim McHugh

just to circle excluding back temp but I Okay. cost, underlying guess, And the the XX I the - elaborate then can issues down you some can workers' the gross we guess, yes… of you're on margin? - comp there,

Keith Waddell

U.S. are they're good, So pay/bill solid. spreads underlying

taxes against our and fewer cities, got credits and You've More unemployment the pay. actual to impacting our we had comp. as That's mandated are states requiring rates. other more quarter. credits sick workers' fringe fourth We fewer during adjusted

discussed good, recover. working the cost, we're is just underlying solid. non-U.S. improve we're The working doing are that it. We've on higher we're irrespective it. put on to and short So the if pay/bill spreads to the some need very of And environment to resistance it's in But further, term, reasons solid. we've mix we between they're to fringes, purely pressure fringes currently U.S. U.S., But we that seeing spreads got margins. also higher at need that the but you our bill/pay for recruit fringe gross on them global some look

Tim McHugh

you. Thank enough. Fair Okay.

Operator

from from comes next Your Manav Barclays. question Patnaik

is line open. Your

Ryan Leonard

is Manav. for in filling This Leonard Ryan Hi.

around I that your question, wanting just rate. clients plans making to legislation? But about Just wage that compensation on mean, I you about increasing hearing tax are piece not of mean, companies are some talk you necessarily talked this conversations announcements a tie can as inflation result. a to with obviously you and wages

Keith Waddell

is to The tying company of aren't different. either. vast cuts majority our every compensation tax clients Well,

I to be doing with included, many/most So full companies think to stop. need competitive committed are do us people, they what to their

independently, we're that. of earlier, expected do to change. we our retain rates motivate, best is going have And So do not I capital as to allocation Tax are to people. independent to our said what attract, policy

Ryan Leonard

then, makes mentioned - what your therefore, sense. to increased really in you of mean, the necessary post… for mean, to they're a CM And pricing. look clients enough, do seeing kind optimism you're of there clients, to just they this too of I Fair push need expect something some still sense the think urgency, Or you Is back of also it the the is but and, the I see? among increase is [ph] demand early hiring? stage on

Keith Waddell

we're up. the pay. they're will what a say And willing candidates. already to time, would the And of to The pay for disconnect willing catch between still is what seeing over two demand. clients the issue are there's history supply-demand bit Well, dynamics and

rate So that's we inflation, to inflation, see typically, and expect a fully us. bill more wage more for thing good

Max Messmer

highest the many only that been of in enacted. law businesses the add that a to It's the would month thing level is showed tax optimism group. the Ryan, latest since make report up NFIB new barely many, the small midsized years I was with

see. is you're Keith and I optimism we said. to to think what My a that demand, pickup but go weight in guess lends we'll activity forward, see going just as

Ryan Leonard

you. Thank enough. Fair

Operator

Bisbee question comes Capital. RBC Gary from Your from next

is open. line Your

Gary Bisbee

that strength. people? difficult? first both the spot picking give right you're more - wanted you Hey, where demand's to a the even got on folks? temp economy? are the we all us to a find where or you having - just still guys. the in ability finding like Thanks. there guess, can of Or feel also getting sweet business, in seen you've I an areas up fairly ask, in full employment the on we've afternoon. the that given question, and Europe, Or business are any in candidate a Is U.S. in of and perm much Good Is availability, time lot I indicators hard right of update

Keith Waddell

markets at are easy tightening. candidates. We've no sourcing not there's successful been labor Well, anyone. to find question the It's

the in confident we're far, So near term.

continue to source candidates. We

wage that discussed, inflation would that one indication what the underlying growth-constraining. some is supply it's which hasn't we As expect, isn't still so just up tight the picked to

So we We've our successful and all skills the but would the alternatives given all we of need successful finding people, to been closing say we've who tightening, them been in our candidate market have. our relative experience, they given recruiters.

Gary Bisbee

Okay. And for And be then tax competed do what happen? period the the just industry, staffing to that how players potential were if the that a nature you the follow-up benefit about to getting are of question, competitive that portion of over given time think could happen away?

Keith Waddell

it's in, market of for X it's Well, at more when X it's we clients. X to we number that typically And that relatively not tax question numbers for we we're and whether The procurement But a understand companies our a small X put know, time people much it's so people our businesses, rate our very of given or can periods with you do a you they client's units of discussion. small [ph] the tax mistake. months, time part different rate managers units the whether If just principally a small with line in short versus when thing. a not line the providing just - our focused to that big rates manager, of and And frankly, dealing were hiring isn't a doing of deal number XXXX you're and Fortune at tax the making can hundreds buyer and our is job, we was avoid discussion. your relevant. the talking case, of were time,

Gary Bisbee

you. Thank enough. Fair

Operator

Mazari Instructions] [Operator comes Your Capital. Macquarie next question Hamzah from from

Your line is open.

Hamzah Mazari

just terms of the if for in of competition back change are go I LinkedIn. A slide to - for differential. maybe competitive Can bill/pay any ago, you in frame you. wanted couple the could rate environment to a candidates? seeing you us, Thank had on years you

are may maybe because the frugal options. curious more if Or being case? have more start-up companies that's impacting Just they clients there not

Keith Waddell

not the to it's what we're known our lot today's ultimately yet that market digital-only being from is the we're with strategy opportunity and digital-only better get we've a a any with Valley, a that at these seeing in our in say out the And need would world, hand start plan that human for I morphs on ultimately new for have It's sitting to the space. to convincing a them number long Silicon competitors. hold amazing And we a opportunity talk that here you so start-ups in close opportunity a amazing knowledge that And competition is deal. meaningful that the of the of candidate opportunity. to means best based and learning business not

So question, the are needle, today's but and bunch and for they a staffing, no moved of changed job its haven't they world, to that clearly, structure, opportunity you've start-ups certainly move its geography, haven't career got digital-only they in its candidate that there certainly other compensation many opportunities get to a make question have. versus advancement a the the in based on there's

Hamzah Mazari

do of at us look - Follow-up like terms cash over. Do frame what have like? strategy. a good for M&A think how as a price quite that in significant the pretty long about look M&A. It looks you not? does just But purchase question, Maybe time your your very did you last market deal ago? deals That's I you turn pipeline or value was evolves, you you helpful. it know of I'll return

Keith Waddell

cloud-based dynamic, as whole toward said, apps I that of talk firms, with to all right dollar Amazon lot for many capacity have on the The Frankly, are of computing that relative the build build looking in particularly and We ever demand, much our buy changing we more buy sit with the tech-related, than the out struggle is we Web Silicon see ask other, me the cloud-based is actually we're a as than deals. at And to capability on companies. build start-up there. here side. we we Well, Services the the Valley. of in on always with could buy cents to versus their space,

build anything, never versus with more buying to and buy. tools as demand interested, always on traditional quite versus we that And never advantages staffing So observe if that more would the at and that I technology building say we just world we're digitized, the today, gets it all relative look dichotomy. are while particularly

Hamzah Mazari

you. it. Thank Got

Operator

comes Sommer question Tobey from next Your SunTrust. from

Your line is open.

Tobey Sommer

Thank you.

bill on a of Just terms greater overall lesser the trended has similarly kind or your to relative a than things the focus tech. And of Have to internal whole? side, hiring in firm area as a been particular the couple contextual of that book? temp rates the

Keith Waddell

than I'd trends stronger bill overall, tech in rate are particularly tech development. say, the

there particularly salespeople, divisions, in other the movement less did would whereas our front-ending. the a last rate internal been deceleration other overall more I development wage than that so done So and had way. was we would bill own go there's the that recruiters tech we growth, staff, and because front on we there few And inflation say quarters, more ended

Tobey Sommer

at Okay. end rates, do And firm growth follow-up, growing as a think is or you that market the its above below?

Keith Waddell

America, had growth couple X%, greater, in nicely virtually Manufacturing. over The now of of those been market a is straight GDP there's track growth a middle Acme rates were End you're companies, our market company. of dealing quarters market, every to our we've X.X% business that. fact or Tires when a that from to growth three reacceleration that cyclical Clearly, we're Fred's end with

a hasn't So like bodes participate I macro quarters U.S. seen in we're we're States, participating, United for us. the we've just consecutive three beginning think the well macro which seen recovery to in U.S. and

Tobey Sommer

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Dolev Your comes from next Nomura. question from Dan

open. line Your is

Dan Dolev

what missed I quick probably quarter? it. bill Thanks, questions. hours sorry rates I Hey. missed the if guys I'm this for congrats. billable and was And and Two it,

Keith Waddell

X.X% were rates year-on-year. Bill up

Dan Dolev

Got it.

Okay.

done can improvement. historically CapEx U.S. mean, seen growth that your have And you're the spend correlation companies. of for I maybe And Thank between organically we've trend? that what even you related terms in uptick of fourth huge some you shows update kind it's and nice then here of you. the any to and that? on us that there's work So if quarter, in a seeing

Keith Waddell

would spending capital it correlated include growth spending no is their which would it's contingent companies which labor. Well, to us to and highly generally, - which include labor surprise that

growth. a would for most the just because correlating and clearly CapEx of rates spending companies that appetite would of of spend we reflect capital company's it that. GDP, we correlate the is I derivative directly think agree, to and data that And broad to So a unemployment section say, labor between a

Dan Dolev

congrats Got it. again. much. you And so Thank

Operator

from R.W. comes last from Marcon question Your Mark Baird.

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Mark Marcon

light sounded currently current may the ton headcount to we how a the on seeing think continue side, you that just on of the way perhaps side? but like the in pace Just add see of Like that. GDP temp trends perm the the if should we optimism, it to necessarily not you and temp and the wondering was should it, about how perm think you're continues order if about and growth

Keith Waddell

So on from rates we standpoint. just for adding The new have we that the Protiviti some front-loading themselves talked support heads - unused a growth will capacity the about.

Mark Marcon

Sure.

Keith Waddell

you're between - should including in same 'XX your got U.S. going expect So But already the add the the fourth The if heads, already the revenue to quarter get evidence and the justified. leveraging are look not fact course to between there we in existing sequentially that you're and But we at will be look says, some the if compensation the it year on the SG&A now alone, on there's to some and 'XX, of first that leverage you of revenues line. your you headcount will that necessarily not some a growing, of the full first previous that leverage you quarter headcount basis, of investment just over XXXX. leverage and would it's adding we pace our quarter XXXX happen

Mark Marcon

voice Max's just comparable. and in optimism clearly the voice I in that. is It's your recognize

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Keith Waddell

growing alone headcount. That fact that the supports are in fourth the in the to they and that accelerated quarter, just fact are, extent Well, revenues alone supports headcount.

Mark Marcon

you. Sure. Got it. Thank

Max Messmer

us our appreciate was thank like for question. joining to would call. again on last it. That We today's everyone We

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Robert Half International (RHI) 30 Jan 182017 Q4 Earnings call transcript