MATX - Earnings call transcript Q1 2019

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. This is your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Matson First Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. reminder, call a being As Instructions] this is conference recorded. [Operator the now to like would conference to I turn over Lee Fishman.

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Lee Fishman

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Matt Cox

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terminals ago of XX, to The benefit million to in to year as quarter SSAT the the compared favorable first items SSAT period. $X.X volume the one-time to Turning $XX.X volume U.S. it from decrease the period. our in higher XXXX venture primarily on Coast. prior attributable of lift the in million joint continues year-over-year strong saw of West contributed slide was import absence

high operating overall all-time expecting remains we environment contribution premier stronger to fourth and lower of on the And this contribution we're at of Transportation year, income stevedore level the to off seasonal on largely be the satisfactory. as course, SSAT's expect than in SSAT the U.S. the be XXXX. normalization import Coast Coast. XXXX, we And although XXXX, expect of coming after positioned a to we're demand achieved For an Ocean the well U.S. lower in it due a West volume quarter the West our

as in eighth additional the Accordingly, joint in seen in news, opportunities as terminals in the on an continued opportunity U.S. for April, Seattle terminal of into part initiated terminal new look the at which the across Matson growth additional forward terminal TX, organically or have may We venture in as you becomes Coast a area. long-term Seattle with volume our Tacoma port moved service West to SSAT and well SSAT. to SSAT. As the X, grow

This Alaska a performed Joel, of improving in with now outlook. and turn time, Joel? for XXXX over the to million, higher over lines economic provide team Turning The Span call posted a conditions Slide which I'll partner, XX. Operating year Alaska. brokerage to outlets, of increase Logistics primarily deliver stronger-than-expected. in all Logistics forwarding, performance strong on service and the in income of improvements. of my year-over-year to financial $X.X of first will result that, million now $X.X came an over contributions in continues of of quarter due transportation increase but from our well last interest I'll freight as And later skip the the the Joel performance. the presentation. review was In or to

Joel Wine

Thanks, Matt.

of onto joint the quarter million unfavorable was $X.X forwarding. and due $X.X income income absence in period. the consolidated or primarily million. of vessel a handling of a other XX. year $XX.X was from quarter contribution was decrease of terminal year-over-year container to of lower delivered. period. quarter million offsetting primarily in freight The as interest vessel in year-over-year financial million lease quarter $XXX,XXX, prior $X.X higher at quarter income year-over-year and a year the the increase when Hila was associated venture Partially The the for million, lower the ended our $XX.X million due than the capitalized reminder, prior in weather-related favorable costs, China the less higher Kaimana quarter in Logistics company's beginning amortization, and $X.X attributable The million Hawaii. Alaska the Slide items results million to reduction expense year EBITDA to to which for the decreased the income million versus contributions from Transportation a the and $X.X dry-dock decrease $X.X was for Interest service. small to $X million investment includes one-time costs, primarily Maunalei period. $XX.X and brokerage operating these the operating was depreciation first ago million we're amortization. contributed expense, Now, the including comparisons due for volume impacts, and SSAT terminal $XX.X The with on higher higher decreased in operating Ocean was and vessel to decrease this transportation operating

will year. So statement this therefore, expense we have income forward a interest going each greater amount of quarter

period. Lastly, on rate the the tax for

of outlook XXXX timing our As our we Slide flow million call figure one-time February, from related of of tax adjustments we we expect for the annual quarter our shows second adjustment Cuts $X.X in throughout months XX%. of of the Job this year. in the mentioned trailing an for non-cash to enactment reversal than the adjustment effective higher of Tax to XX effective on a quarter the due arising have and Adjusting expense the how expected the rate Act recorded XXXX. And fourth item, rate been we the allocated in XX cash generation. tax remain quarter to would the favorable

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fleet of we Island Hawaii ratio first program to the the do near phase of expect and Terminal end the increase Going forward, we upgrade. renewal as Sand our leverage the

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of As the quarter, our full-year Logistics outlook. strong first in in performance the a result updated have we

the after the to adjusting million for income For Transportation year full $XXX.X the million. XX operating approximate expect we sale-leaseback the $X.X months for Ocean XXXX, XXXX, to vessel of achieved in of additional continue impact

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and million, for depreciation amortization. $XXX amortization $XX to expect dry-docking million approximate inclusive We of

additional $XX XXXX EBITDA expect or the XXXX We the adjusting approximate million. vessel the after of of the to sale-leaseback million than $XXX months higher for impact result level XX

income expect approximately in million income. to $X.X be We other

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of Logistics, maintenance XX. XXXX. to For is program operating for additional higher scrubbers, XXXX light second $XXX of the quarter achieved expect turn CapEx $XX income our scrubber CapEx estimated $X.X expansion to increase we XXXX provided call, expenditures, and the the by to expected Please we million include to of the including million. total fourth quarter for the modestly other estimated XXXX. of to In X be a than in Slide On million capital

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Matt Cox

infrastructure will to ask the X on vessels with Joel. look our we We're down Sand new our pleased through Island the new forward call to stretch the flow I and back to managing the remain generation Thanks, vessels. the the as year head focused on and project. year the cash on intensely with and We start and turn your our operator for home that, leverage questions. Hawaii And last progressing levels

Operator

from Instructions] Sidoti. question Steve [Operator comes from Your first O'Hara

Steve O'Hara

next in the you and the fact that. a and just of of terms on the year service, given sounds the clarity the pretty, guess walk rates with with that way market me lot I with happens like IMO what that rate, fuel, XXXX, through pricing China rates in all can work it and negotiations there's

Matt Cox

Yes, dynamic, so it's an interesting Steve.

Matson Let between make And me both sure and speak X. distinguish to trade the I I'll the in general.

of Matson new fuel So for I XXXX would these around the IMO are comments first standards. the the rollout the and say and for trade,

year, that scrubbing And are like installed have, mechanisms so scrubbers. carriers And to or how in see the been what out it we they on quarter and actually be put are dynamic what most when have more we they fourth the market January not probably off impact transpacific you the fuel this have available sense happening of get they devices their have emission have as that understand handle discussions around the fuel purchasing there the noncompliant systems until the end fuel and the need so in they to before X. of

discussions my approach it's that there's and of wait-and-see versus much is, by the of terms lot in is I mechanisms and think about impact, sense customers that of ocean what sort and of is the how see. borne wait So international by lines. a a international customers are be the the shipping the absorbed of There to carriers, determining that going impact for is

on anyway. and our that a we fuel belief is recovery fuel to expectation I the in of reasonable cost with to our advantage continue to the discussion a return But Matson, the strategy, somewhat rest different has discussions our big things, service effective the And recovery installing customer's around again, of our market. relative of scrubbers. picture the complete, or was of so will a pricing open for a in Matson was of the once scrubber it's and customers a a really that have earn say don't we our having would it's question. emission the who differentiated seeking very sense has compete But very

cycle. on basis our backdrop, would to it say some positioned of of that more of about well satisfactory And we done But contracts. We of that with our portion with business feel spot business. very regard XX is portion is May contracting differentiated X that April outcome shorter-term with given on highly had the I Matson, customers again, our service. So that to our a in rest terms a

Steve O'Hara

And everybody following the trades by Act to going be what like the compliant, IMO, how your competitive that, the to that knowledge, I that by date if work? just in? and look you're Jones then in does not, up mean, landscape does Is to

Matt Cox

So Steve, know for start what Alaska we've Alaska fuel has trade. emissions we that is scrubbers IMO, with change. have XXXX that, the our trade. I cost And the not what we mentioned I'll will and installed base in do happened IMO needed already to

principal vessels are Totem Express. compliant different approach, in in Our Ocean process to now accommodate gas. a which fuel competitor their slightly taking Alaska natural is is They they're burning liquefied of to the convert and

that So vessels. the is that that their Pasha, process period in burning fully X than are vessels indicated compliant. what to compliant, fleet. they're they've on no not. their are X/X/XXXX will over know, steam will are of have the And they're both are compliant during LNG are principal it's happen going we they vessels, vessels X, will remaining in, competitor to respect after an be some still a fuel. we plans but likely our X under And trade, are not have in X the construction to don't XXXX. in will those longer be by time roll-on/roll-off have understanding, solution emission they with delivered know that be Hawaii but their address remaining low as January how now. process, where XXXX converting steamships vessels are longer Those In then They These today they as our compliance

in significant that would X/X, any from and plan Matson's changes compliant predict to can ability fully are say we in very I confident X/X. although a So on on place be I not our perspective,

Operator

with next Jack Our Atkins question from Stephens. comes

Andrew Hall

in a carriers is if along in in I previous to know We've talk Is you floating during we that, one from you're lane lines it, guys contacts trying contracts. putting term that the bid on bunker questions wanted the surcharge. some don't our pricing to to about across service. some in for on to put that's of right sort or year? follow-up guys to that heard contracts of something around I the transpacific Andrew two, you of Jack. looking This something season but call those one, their this your came those

Matt Cox

today. floating and So that bunker we there in are that those mechanisms the trade And existing there are way are various uses calculations also, the addressed.

there fair this say, bunker, the there we or recover think. we mechanisms those which least out surcharge I thanks a unclear fourth for Whether quarter fuel of adjusted year you're think bunker But based to allow addressed, existing in it. to At terms precise, for mechanisms is a mechanisms Andrew, it's on right, floating so adjustment the played or to their need remains of what mechanisms. are that's to handle not higher full for different cost mechanisms BAF, or to there's need of fuel, And that all existing cost existing factor, of but bunker there understand. and are or are place. place largely fuel little this carriers asking this to in floating, going mechanisms, to But kind those whether get be more it's the will be and in be

Andrew Hall

Matt, Hawaii you called guys in some out quarter. during the headwinds weather

that, less Hawaii, of also terms seeing one you tick weather, there And or comments a that of green at in volume, the think help think for the any I flat word impact. of from said results. back rest a put I you a maybe you volume in is as quarter finer the us point level? bit is getting you maybe first in chutes little kind look those year, in of get maybe I of it then the in just EPS there year, on the in standpoint, can to you know of get volumes. the any terms see I impacted think an sailing that the the Is way a to was But several up sense guidance volumes to a million used you your faced. the prepared headwind

Matt Cox

the I quarter we cost the think regard the several in weather-related said to first of with days, million.

You proxy. pretax good other deploy in situation. base can would to get use as intact we schedules ballpark to given difficult the the to as try had things $X to order our million you do in weather That a and vessels we keep had additional

we year. the I that Of that's to significant into of do not of out I now about want baked say, course, the gotten thinking delays point would the the single-digit feeling and winter our Hawaii this hasn't, expect weather-related over into months we've translated into translated at rest volumes. our hasn't growth overall meaningful go couple general It in low seeing volumes. freight the last trade for, the It years, very freight above of in economy. we're wouldn't

just So relatively being it market. for flat approaching we're the

we're think overall we seen start can Alaska haven't at But it, and you the in best about see Hawaii because market. there. is our optimistic more the significant thinking growth incremental this just in I point,

it's we'd market. in like the little we're a Hawaii So ahead of of approaching where to how terms be

Andrew Hall

And then for Joel. last one

see talk these that payments business new the next free for year kind cash if from some the will just the approaching are you I start winding high in that as guys year I think you guess potential ships through we or of of year look be for and CapEx maybe XXXX. level, think, to you're the new new CapEx about wind payments scrubbers. Maybe especially committed and in and you now maybe this vessel flow could, added XXXX out, in some a down. the I thinking then down And how next

Joel Wine

Sure, Andrew.

of on into we the the payments. slide. $XX plus But in that, number million So of in get you top next for CapEx about million even $XXX commitments the the schedule year, it's talked vessel baked our terms all million the $XXX

that near free expect We somewhere number, higher the the if cash at potentially we if today. flow that we're rates, rates we're maintain at run run

first after, priority So invest we in deleverage. And that's the course, first be will business. of our to the priority

long the as We've to then but we'll that first targets we're back track always that will is organic those, our grow. some those the us growth time, So the certainly of over our Xs that we key good Those and we've Xs our growing had hit for into in out, free the maintenance dividend But and which strategic us, open be into above of a laid deleveraging get record been is are option we've flow. cash to financial M&A numbers. CapEx, priority. we level with cash baked flow target an remain dividend. the priorities CapEx disciplined And as after and have free additional down for commensurate growth about, low the talking

for dividends And So that capital either. through that something be the free will as to on Returning mechanisms opposed we're that's special those flow. us like to we'd all not table continue. cash generate we

Operator

from question next from Nolan Your comes Stifel. Ben

Ben Nolan

maybe is Obviously, Logistics time largely gives but relates is it's there wider. a and the in Obviously, there you margins, of differently do bit is of that to point it's first comfort quarters little broadly well. doing cyclically than are continues maybe that even margins maybe business. had Span a But margins you of in keep been. periods few and anything can helps something and well place not higher good you're really as My to in that that appreciate when the that particular, bit industry the something to else a level maybe been a those would are hanging there little one now good a it speaking, And really in market? a you I

Matt Cox

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happy with did, team re-pricing if us the of look portfolio I very to the needed heard portions did look unit. those be, to we're say was the was, performance disciplined we I this about and businesses. margins is, But the business before, significant entire it the then you've first thing up So really and guess them go Or at we we're business. levels of the of shed were thought the that to our we at couldn't where to way

pay portfolio. entire our transportation been think this significant continue us. economic we to brokerage in there's so environment And And underway dividends that that reprice will that a effort for to current certainly

calling margins right separately It's higher. We a Alaska. in margins are You and out little were business in a also different Span bit the out Span. don't break the

the China But improving. business, of our the margin. our days margins are the say, of of of result the of is old and from Warehouse I some them drifting and the So of Logistics up mix business, just one business, lines a of single our contributing would each every

it's been great. so And

question your to So about we through remain continue, this how the sustainable do to margins elevated. think margins, environment, I are current economic expect we

different and going X I there's current we strong produce to bet. climate, as don't and in if change, changing we're that's this near-term, see But continue or economic high-margin. which a years Now, the market think the recession in to very in environment dynamics a X

replicated be can cycle. that think I this through

So it. we're very optimistic about

Ben Nolan

in And this SSAT? how that? whole things and Are that away to we you added thing should as then any a that your Matson and shifted a around SSAT business from another neutral additive bit SSAT obviously, else think Seattle. Is implications a there about peer had to came there? Or to up

Matt Cox

joint your this we I seen at this, a, position but rather reinvest as joint presented venture's to continue grow want we Matson's been XX-year And increase West has has would I the that on and market. venture least the the Coast. a and a, themselves, question way Ben, to been U.S. think total we share have understood joint have its venture I and of lift it's think the been opportunities footprint

in But carriers results future volume venture to I do distributions in I growth XXXX. continue question our operating and grow the joint element That's answered future. to be if sure for a needle focused terms up but that we, TX to we've another the our that identifying on be not into put allows lease on say area. other organic just I'm Terminal of come from been mean your healthy Seattle-Tacoma for that mover expect will not X we allows other the to so to venture terminals it of joint should in do I the TXX or step so SSAT going some moving And remain in to will example, and into the place as increase we continue and SSAT always very fully, Ben. probably

Ben Nolan

part do other any was standalone just business helpful. of the maybe in the terms outside this does of impact spot? calling of Matson is I business, at question other different real a SSAT, my have there guess you on how than That's

Matt Cox

think think venture parent to that benefit No, no joint a that would Matson are and the parts The Carrix, so. of look basis we venture. this has this detriment of U.S. I think can our on with not West other or I But in. marine in venture the terminals anything joint can't with something participate joint do Those Coast. anything of of company operates to don't that relatively partner, standalone operates are It to impede associated defined other world. investment. I terminals on the would

Joel Wine

Ben, And I'd throw just out reminder. a

Hawaii our our on but Seattle, operations, we for So not. competitor, Pasha, call does

relative there's for this So for the we impact both Seattle. don't call move call then and our no to With Hawaii competitor actually Takoma. competition in trade, We Alaska trade. have down

our any another of this none on impact So had Seattle our competitors. to us Alaska terminal or one whatsoever for from movement business

Ben Nolan

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Matt Cox

to a do What it long us Matson and relative mix time, it's ability do period about we allows optionality. of confident that return to the spreads to scrubbers, of for thing difficult us, scrubbers believe it. adequate installing a are an our I to know. to burn expensive the other, We the think in earn be is and anyone do. less for want fuel. right really we the for for us, it's And continue to on to over

fuel, think the our once Jones trades. Act that to most allow You competitive know, cost of be recover be as can, recover capital we and our would I as surcharge And fuel to or scrubbers, us can. as the of we we fuel in as economically goal have we mechanisms our all operate of these

announcements we the once has X. burning just least be Pasha example, in the from the that Group For LNG regard. the Hawaii understand that they're Pasha delivered I've are that made trade, mentioned will At Day ships in those

be LNG scrubbers. want don't be fuels I the to know I treated on can to would we conventional competitive. container And where expect, But emission equivalent cost so per BTU is exactly that with relative again,

understand. a in to overstatement But a complicated I surcharge understand think to an for easier that is we than our that advantage. could to for our China fuel trying lot transparent I a it discussion would really with for use and much very can to more customers, them it's them think be mechanism difficult tell approach gain competitive you, it's example, our

and transparent appreciate simple we're So approach. I and think our customers that

Ben Nolan

more better something relationships, or might like translate that customer volume eventually, that? into And

Matt Cox

much, we're reliable. doing. we're terrific to what And just don't the this credible trade reputation in as we We're that and straight we boast China but reinforces Yes. we already a very know like And have shooters.

So I in the think think I trade. reputation best transpacific it what just is enhances the

Operator

We a have Webber from question from Michael Wells Fargo.

Michael Webber

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Matt Cox

know, trades, trades that, differentiate our a So to allows as mechanism in our let surcharge me Act Jones the fuel. we fuel us because of you recover XXX% have

in change a can a So big, in the be But other you we over financial going see or Nor, In we allows Jones us that there collected. can under Act quarters where a be have need an if hedge, future. hedge we an time. we up have need we're in mechanism don't our Trades. we or expect down economic given over economic recover words, that to engage to fuel do that to to our

Michael Webber

would of utilize kind you do to be able was terms that in guess get HSFO on the question access in the order, the to scrubbers, need last I think would was to thing the to period scrubbers. payback want not the be you to of

is I mechanism, on, I guess So guess guess I the like, fuel guess of that don't real-time your nuance all particularly I a if to through the I at. guess I within passing through basis? was actual, Or the done is was I know question the of mechanism pass that is, costs, clear. the what trying get

Matt Cox

helpful. That's

fuel I with our going been reasonably think in and available. confident is that suppliers to we've fuel discussion are be

in. scrubbers. cost moving over recover China. those pieces trade. surcharge continue with we fairly our be We of just that the of the I to all to recover we got, the of in it's are again, decision fuel to was be going capital continue cost. ability short the for going comment on a increases which our There's also us able confident allow portion remain And a were more mechanisms was the And in confident, towards right to capital to feel capital to we But that process beginning the contract assigned to satisfied then confident feel we of going us. the And putting order to think recovery

Michael Webber

the going surcharge I through of earlier can Matt, of just your slides. your guess. offline think of kind one the details and guidance it And pertains to it's terms Okay. as of follow-up in I I

that QX volumes, westbound referencing numbers kind XXXX. a the and mentioned inside of you Just sailing just fewer were touch of one

indication. you that going was relatively curious on you back a be to pointed need QX. this from are already strong from that it year get see implication Just and like volume a in you basis? basis, XXXX you've have to pretty would with bump the that to a 'XX. also volume of XXXX just kind that I'm started kind looks outlook guys if was level seasonal had or par a a there bump volume you to that seen of XXXX seeing to pretty Is early sizable

Matt Cox

Yes. for of quarters a say of that, the know, are second trade. I it lot and third quarters the the would That's when Mike, big as you Hawaii moves. seasonally course,

a into life course, a Yes, that and last the the little there projects always Of hours or at if then that little own behind overlay their voyage is different phases. a later There's around volume a add have construction a year. we're falls noise day next bit quarter. few sails later

as any year. allow really the that the So go us seasonal that to we're overall, the first going quarter, a end shifts we were trying is through feeling factors of behind we the think And to call that the share little in our while is 'XX. implied year rest out. about in big But we finished think I don't see to we where we are

for will the and kick we do seasonal the in looking in, as we're quarter. flattish a second and to elements environment better start third So

all volumes guidance, and in trade. second the called our consistent comments Although, out are I our did, volumes are that Hawaii we've think our quarter other our with and expectations for Joel embedded

Michael Webber

I only tonnage where believe I they've there In one, why? long-term And being be you there. I Act the built. NASSCO, Aker scenario your, I be then some that need, it's from at provider the a of Jones what just of Matt, concern, for guess And not the that minor one you guess Matson if a a commercial or basis? mitigating kind on last the a least big guess guys positive would Philly, last last I that it's vessel guys picture. guess negative of is factors took would the commercial scale vessel of would

Matt Cox

whether those or the I of our pride first operating shipyard teams, see, we they're as ships. contract. Philly said they hard ships. teams at the, whether and all, in with and But are to to the or the guess XXXXs. we that these I for of yard ships. additional and are takes are going mean we get the very going built convert these vessels, XXXXs, and well, to regard two our the to We be rooting work engineering tactically, But we're Class going building level to We're yard I spec long took that ships than be military And half trying project. Alaska the period the the of next relatively able two second And their that, work. large happen, smaller to need NASSCO or that mid-to-late go survive. vessels having has Yes, another what's working know Those those Kanaloa built for Matson. on to to opens of they to to not ships, is be where somewhere operating yard mean delivery above be to beautiful some are going its are next such build nobody After find somewhat Aker ships ship, we're knows replacements. likely a in to sort through

be for or some survive some for news guess I to into Philly other in in we're so the going and acquisition to story going is the be opportunity, know back there we're we not and that be rooting or Aker And future survive, while to some market good great unless would Shipyard time. moving to shape we're that a

my are point. this those thoughts at So

Operator

continue. at you There this are Instructions] Speakers, further [Operator may questions no time.

Matt Cox

forward think for and quarter to start your Aloha. we're much a the so second catching to attention the you up we call. off with Thank to I on year Again, call. the look good everyone for

Operator

This you participation. conference for Thank everyone call. concludes your today's

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Matson (MATX) 12 May 192019 Q1 Earnings call transcript