FUL - Earnings call transcript Q3 2018

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the H.B. Fuller Third Quarter 2018 Investor Conference Call. This event has been scheduled for one hour. Today's conference call is being webcast live and will also be archived on the company's website for future listening. At this time, I will turn the meeting over to our host, Vice President, Investor Relations, Ms. Doyle. Barbara

begin. may You

Barbara Doyle

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James Owens

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John Corkrean

Jim. Thanks,

quarter business to the said, grew growth quarter, were revenue Organic headwinds XX% addition raw with mix especially from as as grew we've costs. for As as costs realized third revenue pricing benefits X.X%. and the continued Volume contributor performance of we're Pricing our the currency the actions the raw was material by approximately we compared pressure in well material year movements. given quarter. Jim all driven flat overall, throughout XXXX the strong Net Royal. taken a inflationary of to offset the pleased significant on to of from impacts

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third me on quarter comment Let also guidance. versus our results

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the turn Owens to closing me comments. let for Now back Jim call

James Owens

economic well in We've continues progress improvement. margin China. executed more performance on Thanks, movement organically, grown strategy to John. business In environment the currency summary, and and XXXX continued quarter challenging the our third very in despite pricing our in delivered

We an our way solutions to are set to well our integrating on offering customers. of Royal, high-value expanded successfully

delivering results. revenue also impacting our on plans financial our are favorably synergy We and cost

to continue to pay million flow $XXX and year. this cash and EBITDA Our track down of increase, we're on debt

All in whether financial us you Thanks in at over that to our of deliverables, our towards are the our recent XXXX we this attended which we on discussed person Day. of gives who confidence right Day, the or detail path Investor Investor those webcast.

quarter in with in part operating of in efficiencies. progress our said Investor to Engineering were objectives improvements margin this key core in Adhesives, During on needed quarter EBITDA business. cost significant we with growth our drive operating showed three flow in in Engineering synergies, and to in our excellent the synergies efficiencies on expansion Day, three We, These million delivery deliver a we achieve margin that XX.X% growth and in order and Royal-related double-digit all deliverables. to achieve $XX these delivered to on double-digit $XX year-to-date XXXX to again, strategic targets, manufacturing million cash Adhesives, to due

and commitment our proceeding This was deliver strong as our path quarter remarks. our strategy and This prepared to up financial wraps is planned. long-term

open So to operator, some up the take let's questions. call

Operator

Instructions]. [Operator

Our first with Harrison question Securities. comes Global from Mike Seaport

Michael Harrison

have uncertainty do if more what what consumer-driven? you Or give standpoint? cautious maybe on just in with you're Jim, an having China more there? what bit And more Or from into on you're us a wondering little policy? can seeing you your detail up Just maybe seeing? this go thoughts to Is government

James Owens

and would say, early. this seen reported we reports we've and Yes. I of

may business across But, a durable there. would both businesses, hygiene some I have we it's and and also view consumer businesses a be you exporters. say, that, size and as the are on and So goods our yes, nice know, so that goods China the we give packaging of our

are of I see think think I uncertainty some Southeast less. Asia. and of a there pickup a their reducing inventories. do are And is some consumers bit little spending manufacturers So in We think there, I maybe

some think production I their there. for of sometimes China, as of shifting think I over exporters who they're options So customers have outside

yes, it say, last And this we been So a of it's mostly two month. our that businesses. we've across it continues and the see But would definitely into here seen I it months number

general a China. I'd to big I problem in our business This So and impact Asia-Pacific our Asia lower a that results. business pretty I be we've to that's think be to say, economic a a at and that inherent growth. double-digit in this to going has is also on growth looked close don't think probably closer single-digit

that around a that's it's that just news think conversation tariffs the based I... probably have, to related on supposition concerns and short-term all consumers but my I issue

Michael Harrison

And then, better kind little on the be sustainable in called trend just Americas. just an some to the Or could of out? like improvement forward? decline you how get weakness and XX% a how how detail EBITDA going reasons in of going volume understanding to EBITDA some something maybe also drove play out obviously, other margin of going to And what the there, And that bit more that's volume a is Americas? margin

James Owens

Yes.

great can I specifics QX. of comment into this John strong XX%. a Americas going recovering the pretty team yes, their QX, on took right. So done in I But, prices let in They approach the job. said to has a the

or of this at Some some The very business. they had -- strategic, the in improving zero portfolio. were the of were very They those think, those I in margin. year terms continued that business that business of lower so of beginning sustainable Wisdom QX, pieces shed the and where so brought very

where and lower-margin they've thoughtful So business. been targeted business I if to about go think had it's increases been let price they've and

right. also we're there, So some seeing synergies

some are of the think offensively broadly well, material on of as well so that business really helping raw and some the synergies sides good performance I as as sustainable. Royal-related So

we range, that's I comment? I have that I XX% long the think a time going do run business think kind you said and to you that expectation want for in expect should that XX%, forward. to John, of

John Corkrean

Yes.

line. really pricing-led. covers we're in third come raw I very that particularly, and outpace talked it that profit is it the in second bit and It's through got seeing delivery well. It little profit that the definitely the is a at the Jim significantly synergies material about, the think really quarter, then, all I And realization gross but mean, is improvement quarter. of margin cost. pricing

Operator

Begleiter Deutsche Bank. next take question David from with We'll our

David Begleiter

on just pretty wide sorry EBITDA, a on What's that wide of I'm Still at moment? Jim, million of EPS. QX. range $X.XX the -- $X.XX sorry. $XX driving And range

James Owens

Yes.

that Let give question to John. me

we're out have to We the give there size the that's but exactly we're going can be, comment you world, on to on range of trying level based maybe specific uncertainty where and of goals the a the... in

John Corkrean

in China I would to bit, exchange and little Yes. it's uncertainty economically, particular. say a related

So a reason. than the we're we I that's probably, think, wider and year were nickel last

James Owens

would And those. quarterly above and I comment, what quarterly have cents target And a expected. on hitting we David. just Last we're everybody a a few basis, were we and quarter, reported we

a spot of few impact, at this below. you year currency cents $X.XX beginning to take we're in We if end started. the year. quarter, that middle the This of we're set going And this where annual target the of

target. end and being we really long-term middle going looked solid very it's of I what right for So on a to in the view year this up to deliver on at think going that a we're the

not fair to I avoid the into trying a think think So it's I quarter-to-quarter game, we're but question. getting even

David Begleiter

from for EBITDA one Understood. but maybe look those a any I Jim, early range two? just an or know perspective, it's on EPS early, either of XXXX either And

James Owens

Yes.

you is that. early think little for us I it give a to

I think XXXX. positive we're about

feel down plans good feel some the Day. different, at is we We I the currency quarter-to-quarter. think laid and about out Obviously, those. goes a little currency but we really Investor up

to have in I it's I to I think factor issue don't happen problem. XXXX. we'll that think it's I while said, into China QX, then So do the a systemic going And as think

positive so XXXX, that's would is said be in fundamentally, things the I Investor And I terms in our that think should and currency. of a and And, we step -- more XXXX changed. is deck look direction. say haven't what bit Day the this really a thing only at changed

I'm want you don't that. want -- do John, add to sure you to So anything to

John Corkrean

think a I very good that's summary.

James Owens

about good is, where we the But feel business Dave.

Operator

Eric take with from next We'll question our Petrie Citi.

Eric Petrie

on for And much year? materials you Could annualized have your coverage target this give an in raw expectations you XXXX? update us an how of pricing

James Owens

regular Yes, I again, basis. something which we more we're I maybe think an today on million, that I more $XX this we and We $XX million, between delivered we a would number that's as annualized cumulatively QX, so increases in executed this did delivered we've that's And said close to price gotten QX. we in say, gave million update said year. on recovered we've of $XXX year. million $XXX the basis. increase than But

Eric Petrie

from And nice volume business. and Construction did Or significantly, Products, Is Royal that the on your have product saw wins acceleration you Great. you there? improved forward? contribution going or any sustainable

James Owens

there's Yes, stories two there. going on

get a our I think -- our look business. to you'll if data PVM at at what's look happening the nice you legacy really in just

really a standpoint our business. from quarter So strong on legacy volume

I over faster and and months think bring we've we the businesses in with the as top focus and businesses script a when customers expect the really two improvement, position thus those decrease line this next lot we're business. less those. together, As businesses in are what them portions nice looked I flat are to targeting here XX both generating there other on are parts those. our in and a want those that's and grow performance, that you There's from strategically, at some we that margin profitable very profit relatively to and think of I net We with that said

and But good think business net those to forward. growth that's going that low what improvement. very like while. business, line have for do. it's going which at to we look a out going with do out, I line top you to year in we margin going point quarter guys forward, strong very very in you if it's And we followed encouraging said So the It's a with were legacy as relative what yes, had up last a you

Operator

from take with Ghansham Instructions]. Baird. Panjabi next question [Operator We'll our

Ghansham Panjabi

I back the strike reason strong was the a in were X%, quarter, third quarter of down Adhesives. you? economy very thought than out Did in categories be? would that volumes part the to context Any guess down the is X% going that the Americas called you particular Last that were still it Brazilian of U.S. they surprise weaker you during

James Owens

there I were Yes. say is categories weaker. any that wouldn't

think would I if Brazilian thing. because that we have of a had little predicted the been it volume number, not much, higher,

So essentially increases. biggest for. I price of to shed it biggest think been is Wisdom is margin of then we related that might were of decided businesses negative and the some to have The the driver businesses, the zero impact driver that --

of were big Brazilian but you're quarter. right, the this two course, didn't those thing, So factors, happen the

fourth I the certainly, quarter, So of positive into Wisdom more year. -- see the think volumes and next terms the the we'll we But start exits, and in when we positivity. overall those in you'll lapping go economy in U.S., see so

not I you in recreational positive. negative but America, as are part strong, as Americas, of very parse to think assembly if I Less vehicles, Latin goods, think state. economic a in activity, more not the positive of our in -- things just activity like and positive economic numbers good the the course, positive of durable overall particularly,

Ghansham Panjabi

Okay.

in weakness China. Just on back to second my question -- the the

weakness? products end seeing is Which seeing you specific locally exported? that are you're products are markets that are in far, any thus sort consumed what it of For or incremental

James Owens

a of little It's both. bit

side say consumer I'd us for So is the consumer hygiene packaging. and goods

to generally and the -- goods into are consumer the areas. that products sell So upper-class we middle- in

stuff durable So side, or on the lost decline market you we a then you'll an who's volume, it's declines weakening, see assembly whether not bit for there. see exporter, of is the And there. weakness anybody domestic of little the some most inventory but see, that's

So what see we that's in China.

Ghansham Panjabi

clarify, to seen weakness the just only perspective in And incremental China. from Correct? finally is you've macro a Okay.

James Owens

all of around things correct. see That's world. lot a positive we the Macroeconomically,

John Corkrean

a little maybe add, bit, Turkey just I'll right.

think really uneven some currency I has the on footing. Turkey put

will So China I spring as back think places. recalibrate, that be people Turkey two yes, but, will the and

Operator

with [Operator from Instructions]. Intelligence. question next We'll our Bloomberg Christopher take Perrella

Christopher Perrella

And have I a little that Question business. Americas still to -- it guidance, much turn of could contributing -- year-over-year, Adhesives. the negative business the less loss deselection -- decline the the just with how do to quarter? been of in Wisdom to to dig then positive the that would thought of you volumes on on XQ Americas you've Wisdom expect negative? But the volume the in or clarify have bit third seen see the deeper Wisdom just the why in

James Owens

of have that exited would Yes. exited. on two as of a result Again, I exactly it our factors, is price share half business say. There we piece other big the increases. we've Wisdom but are say, about And specifics we that is don't of you'll each to these today, that I'd business purposely in see numbers volume

price So increases, to where they're they customers decisions, we've with marginal shed -- exited where have we've lower-margin aggressive of some been made them. where had we've making

factors driving that are are the those numbers. two the biggest So volume Americas

And volume managing mix underlying, business. to make of is business, I team certain the a the look we positive. and combination this you Now, at was the to in have our think stronger portfolio mix have

wouldn't I volume making what's at we're So of look more but indicator as that number business. happening the in about our economically, moves strategic an underlying

Operator

We'll JPMorgan. question Jeff take of with from Zekauskas next our

Jeffrey Zekauskas

there running is fourth occur are expenses a quarter? the $XXX expense Do bit fourth you quarter, true the unusual quarter? in SG&A lower? a Or that adjusted around little million will think for that be Your maybe

James Owens

Jeff, shouldn't be down though. a anything I bit of would It run say, rate maybe in kind No. unusual, little into be going of the to our quarter, fourth trending that's this third kind quarter.

Jeffrey Zekauskas

So X organic Top good your remind in geographies volume pretty Can us the and growth your markets? really Engineering end volume X was Adhesives what growth are Engineering for really Adhesives? -- Top you was

James Owens

at Yes, as growth, say you was our I mentioned the script, look it if broad. in I'd very

areas So now as of the of new as our if in that microelectronics. consumer business, continues growth -- the we nice wins that's in growth penetrating we're have goods well electronics really off some

So that's automotive, couple we've a the trim really of good really of applications. specified, us. job last particularly for over years on positive interior On getting done

So starting then the business to synergy very along of few year. that's half for the through strong driving automotive us. with the automotive this come in that U.S. projects is growth, second that hitting a the are numbers And assembly in are

the in there's had growth Cyberbond with So as ASI. U.S. of a business is as, showing as we growth they bought And broad-based just acquisition, up well assembly in this an the that called economic in America. company part North Royal

growth. in seeing also So positive the business the in we've wins truck best some Germany. There's that's we're where had

of will this call those pieces in of that So our drivers I'd that business. growth biggest as be the

Jeffrey Zekauskas

Were the growth in you rate of disappointed by EMEA? volume

James Owens

me probably Yes, I it's little have at a would expected. the say here. look lower, and I I Let a guess, take Jeff would numbers

Our the touched Turkey lot EMEA middle there of East a on down of nice Middle certainly We an Africa, in that quarter. The the business little slowed quarter Turkey. through. the in had includes our impact I all the sales, a of piece and business devaluation and the size got

of objective to again, -- moves on So a so, team our the yes, work -- here and the probably is as quality less, but business. little forward, our

inflationary to especially smaller a give margin. of So that when relative improve little we're growth in to as going have to we're less competitors, kind to and we bit -- these leading up volume we're times, willing

but, what little lower look So at be a expected. it, probably was yes, of sort that a would than high-level

Jeffrey Zekauskas

you in to million this is expecting spent Is year? the into maybe -- don't spend $XX maybe or capital And not going $XX next be we're slip earlier you're recollection will year going because year. both going year. think lower I my that in what's to lastly, spend outlays? Or to Or million be guess, there are what I CapEx to this you're more spend?

James Owens

Yes.

there you what year of into a think couple next of on bit is -- I little a delay projects.

So some looked we've of the timing at those projects. of

So year. projects. than certain Couple projects shift by of one there's smaller thought, next little that's were a comes quarter that we bigger the of Royal a

year. what going next little to it that a expect spend were is of we felt the year, of but in -- would I So relative it done we've savings were to slip some we going to into to

both, of to year, answer, the is bit your answer guess, dramatic little shift not a next Jeff, but into I question. short So a

Operator

Misra take from our We'll with Instructions]. next Berenberg. question [Operator Paretosh

Paretosh Misra

Just looking fourth like the happening to for or maintenance in the is XX% the there high, Is that realistic? quarter anything year quite some growth quarter, fourth just looks higher shipments XX%. or implied unusual EBITDA cost full And guidance, lower at rate something?

John Corkrean

the So we from pro -- a a think looking this higher-volume year-on-year on it's overall. On at forma growing number in standpoint. a basis. a be looking your at may is think it are not I And -- would a forma quarter question I mid-teens it pro basis, be --

into obviously we're quarter, the our gotten the -- of quarter. it all higher-volume have pricing we've date fourth is So we carrying to and and

shift it's quarter. for and first of we from a saw dramatic what third -- So the but not year the half

James Owens

a increase had think this Yes, I like-for-like we in XX% EBITDA quarter.

So -- quarters. but ex-Royal like-for-like, -- in both not but

should So in EBITDA yes, I of think you more is in what mid-teens the terms expect growth.

Paretosh Misra

which the -- and or how Got euro And on X check. Chinese on do lira? the have exposure exposure? currency, the RMB, to it. other I'll the what are And much the you biggest X Turkish outside slide then

James Owens

it's X/X weighted is broad-based for else X/X Obviously, heavily to story RMB, to specifics we get have the we but and is, exposure about again, us, lots of business X/X right think euro it's would say, don't all each currency. a But think I numbers lira lira. John the for not for currencies. the of shared, across for our to into it's fundamentally, big X/X -- the of everything the combined. I And way

John Corkrean

And the of our currencies the Paretosh, order exporters. in the with slide largest list

Operator

[Operator Instructions].

James Owens

and your input We H.B. support everyone, your appreciate your Thanks, Fuller. today. time for of

Barbara Doyle

conclude Operator, you. call Thank the now. we'll

Operator

concludes You're you, This ladies conference. today's joining call. and the welcome. for Thank gentleman,

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H.B. Fuller (FUL) 27 Sep 182018 Q3 Earnings call transcript