ALLY - Earnings call transcript Q4 2019

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Ally Financial Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]

to Eller, conference Head like speaker to now Daniel today, of would hand over the your I Investor Relations. you. Thank ahead, go sir. Please

Daniel Eller

Thank full everyone Financial’s you, morning. appreciate to operator. Ally review joining fourth XXXX year us and results this quarter We

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Jeffrey Brown

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Jennifer LaClair

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Jeffrey Brown

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Daniel Eller

the Operator, up Q&A. Sure. please see

Operator

Goldman Sachs. first question from Nash from And Ryan Instructions] is [Operator our

now is line open. Your

Ryan Nash

Jenn. Hey, good morning, Good morning, JB.

Jeffrey Brown

morning. Good

Jennifer LaClair

Good morning.

Ryan Nash

for environment. the I to wanted all thanks competitive color auto JB, the So, business. start the on with

to optimization given the yields So you’ve expand been the almost year XX points shift the of used the throughout portfolio. towards able basis continued auto and

competition others parts about market talking play. particularly heard increasing, now we’ve where the in of you However,

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Jeffrey Brown

question, Sure, Thanks sure. the for Ryan.

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been Obviously, at trends doing a pretty $X-billion-ish couple us So similar quarter. with in you’ve we’re years. past continuing we’ve consistent from levels of over origination the confident in seen

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Ryan Nash

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You just talked originations. about

should car asset the how growth? of of used Thanks. And we low-end about outlook prices assuming what think of credit are going your second, range, forward? in then So terms earning given the targeted you

Jennifer LaClair

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Ryan Nash

for Thanks all color. Got it. the

Jennifer LaClair

Absolutely.

Jeffrey Brown

Ryan. Thanks,

Operator

you. Thank

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line now Your open. is

Moshe Orenbuch

made And Thanks. front, moves growth of on given particularly kind the Great. pricing. you’ve very impressive the deposit on

of and could how to kind you the continue year you next. kind a Do views I to continuing will share? to do that online little this about to as space just how bit you if is take your mean, that, curious, talk Just into of goes be see able that?

Jennifer LaClair

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CD well. see say overall So nice margin as no change on to some we’ll strategy. our the front lift I’d But

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Moshe Orenbuch

about evolution of, a money QX. terms little Lending bit you lot kind and during in spent had of of of the Got a you it, talk and Ally could

for running. process that incremental of guess, a does how means more, the of up acquisitions of getting and of kind normal prospect them forward? of You as that that had maybe I part go as kind to get what But you mentioned efficiency and

Jennifer LaClair

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focus we’ll we’re Moshe, the return we and total growth our profile XXXX. ramping right very portfolio, is financial So, over making get XXXX confident And marginal that up the into in sure accelerate profile. the really time, around see

Moshe Orenbuch

much. Got very it. Thanks

Jennifer LaClair

you, Moshe. Thank

Operator

Thank you.

is Our question from next Betsy Morgan Graseck from Stanley.

is line open. Your now

Betsy Graseck

Hi, good morning.

Jennifer LaClair

Hi, Betsy.

Betsy Graseck

to side. just in want little bit the a expense I dig on

your You when this ramp the over year And obviously been conversion you’ve acceleration at I generating occurred look but which outlook what indicated guidance, that is in for you’ve in year January. got than coming leverage earlier operating the an better your past solid, in systems there.

coming much the should is year. outlook. speak So of you that understand then you this conversion other that I just be to systems that levers are that benefit from could if Thanks. And driving how to wanted getting

Jennifer LaClair

sure. And, operating leverage. and our mean, That here delivered points. what in we captured you I coming Betsy, positive basis down think are That you is ratio efficiency XXXX Yeah, again is XXXX. guidance, in we focus nicely. our in on to XXX XX focused I see it that

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insurance variable attached so, And business. see our we to cost

up seen, application flow that also variable with XX%, you’ve line auto continue see We our the have of in accounts Deposit in revenue. we’ll increase X% side year-over-year. as so grown, cost to

pretty will least, some obviously leverage. new investments technology. capitalized, so roll operating then, last say hit this we’re terms And embedded in been giving that’s of in in then into – keep positive forward modest brand that like product guidance that’s but continue impact. new that products around conversion, in quarter. the in XXXX. system modest HDS, But so not The And that I’d invest mind and we But largely to

Betsy Graseck

Okay.

conversion really So of an its outlier the on terms in outlook? the XXXX isn’t efficiency systems impact

Jennifer LaClair

guidance Well, it’s I in pretty mean, embedded was our there, investment we made. material that it a

out expenses in You shout in The was years, terms we’ve I that couple that, completely has the and XXXX. of conversion customer the but our embedded hit accomplished the roll to we whole of upgraded strong provided kind we’ve had accounts. million which of X.X depreciation huge will who forward guidance and of so business, And kind servicing the feedback way, almost we in to over it’s the think next friction by the really for milestone. over no mean, platform been about team big auto date,

Jeffrey Brown

been X successfully that’s underway the amazing but an And minimal how after partially Yeah, Jenn of customer out, years million and particularly year, company. to when for have little from been X.X converting effort pointed bit Betsy, disruption we X effort that a just we’ll kind come. was perspective, out experienced about But it’s was of literally the days, to more impressive. embedded, you’re quite financial turn it’s a X as already accounts inside over given the it been rolled over

Betsy Graseck

you. Thank right. All

Jennifer LaClair

you. Thank

Operator

you. Thank

is from Sanjay Our Sakhrani KBW. from next question

is line Your now open.

Sanjay Sakhrani

into bit, the Thanks. out we tease maybe good you could growth? a about talk how expect to HCS guess, just factor And results. it little sort means sort near-term. to maybe Can of, I and what XXXX over acquisition we the of

Jennifer LaClair

Sure. morning, And Sanjay. good

year, modest originations number on large and some next that QX modest as the on some opportunities here opportunities around costs see. impact depend new modest possible. total in brought million had we We over a And growth that $XXX had we we be for quickly part it’s in about there originated it want HCS, the provision. depend going But it as $XX to million We XXXX, number that about on X, pretty will portfolio, really we immaterial, see. impact up X, to ramp this quarter. will and So,

embedded how we’re thoughtful that to XXXX growth so outlook. And and space, confident going our We’re and about we’ve we new it. in be the into this pace we’re

– on healthcare. focus is We largely business that also

auto, expensive network We very synergies in good some looking particular, dealer in and are for we improvement, we’ve in where see a verticals other there. got opportunities also on

Sanjay Sakhrani

home say with something you you when lending or And improvement, mean else? personal like improvement home

Jennifer LaClair

Yeah, point-of-sale home investments. lending improvement, with consumer

Sanjay Sakhrani

grow through guys would you or And Okay. acquisition? organically that

Jennifer LaClair

We the platforms. have

October that So the the largely purchase a is on we closed of acquisition platforms. in

an of So that would be new expansion organic verticals. platform that into

Sanjay Sakhrani

and and prices And dropped Is follow-up it. that to year? be into how car significantly in on quarter. used gains, of there remarketing expected we progress should this fourth pretty sort anything the the one read to Got course Okay. over of that final question

Jennifer LaClair

but a and subside guide in forecast. us, we dynamics values the saw XXXX. X%, just In XXXX. And QX, in where some surprise, to were down in XXXX, side to the bit, continues that’s peak trucks been it we we’ve vehicle X% not in about start vehicle does supply for around been to here a prices and expecting a values specifically, expecting But to that, we’ve The Sanjay, hit then near-term pressure, in, lower time. big actually declining which SUV it in see in some Yeah. we should phenomenon used we’ve we is peak our was used continued and XXXX. talking and why

Sanjay Sakhrani

Great. Thank Okay. you.

Jennifer LaClair

Thank you.

Operator

you. Thank

question next is Wasserstrom UBS. from Our from Eric

open. is line Your now

Eric Wasserstrom

to of Jenn, XX. the is around on net the just back the that getting much. on margin. of – couple correct? circle wanted related marginal The very I – auto I the was Thanks quarter, yield to fourth a the origination backing is number X.X%, issues into Slide interest bottom In from a ballpark

Jennifer LaClair

– The origination seasonality, The X.X% QX, above it full it down on was bit. year up X%. in came close, it’s QX in so pretty it a seasonally yield and that’s is

Eric Wasserstrom

Okay.

– as What So what – implies? NIM in should that yield terms of guidance. we out double-digit the frame how expansion so

Jennifer LaClair

the reflective the double-digit keep Yeah, in lot NIM origination really a expansion sure. mind, of is And that. drivers, of auto in of yield part is

current to yield in we X.XX% last And X% So we’ve remain above towards X%. that the books year consecutive we’ll that X yields for expect in putting origination up our XXXX, portfolio, the to over new origination is on which origination been quarters. expect yields about migrate full

tailwind up. natural of So just the in this terms re-pricing there’s

XX point which had basis trends year into basis XXXX. XX origination saw increase into the yields, increase You we point in in will this translated portfolio. Those a continue new

of So one. driver that’s number kind

deposit I down others as expansion billion all over there about we’ve that OSA, rolling down that tailwind dynamics well. got $X rolls creates contribute we’ve double-digit talked Driver that next in as margin with well, then that into then got as is of there And unsecured will what are nice to our at number over re-priced so so year. X.X% two liability management some tailwind and coupon, forward and XXXX portfolio deposit re-pricing earlier a the bit little we’ve a CD around

Eric Wasserstrom

the that then and last the points correct? I was And the on – and get basis question, is calculating X repayment debt. again, last shift this unsecured high just that from of cost of – my about the Is – that point, But envelope, the off. NIM back is ballpark of I’ll benefit from

Jennifer LaClair

it’s right coming I me. a off it X in And higher depends coupon. I than of timing. had X% number Yes. front X% bit billion first in have bit that. – the But we over at the to Eric, quarter $X little don’t the got think exact on a We’ve almost

So bit with And X of can math, think, as but low. the well. timing basis that exact I a point follow-up we matters the seems little

Eric Wasserstrom

Got it.

much. Okay. Thanks very

Jennifer LaClair

Thank Eric. you,

Operator

you. Thank

question next from Rob Wildhack Autonomous line from Our comes the Research. of

Your now line open. is

Robert Wildhack

Good morning, guys.

versus levers on the You’ve growth are of And something the what past here? and the talked that’s the the in a opportunities the you’re the context dealer around about coming years. think nicely lot count dealer from dealer you count, and a Thanks. Can basis? growth from performance us give then expansion obviously, grown some few you is per having success

Jennifer LaClair

volume in we around we’re and and have from quality dealers and consecutive penetration be our less really about deeper of apps the the give increasing see dealer, and dealer XX% we would Hi, that’s say, growth application in quarters growth into I that dealers plus that relationship. apps XX% priority have the go with forward dealer per of X us in that that of apps will per month opportunity the the tremendous relationship we dealers. count say count the will coming fact Rob. Yeah. the I those with dealer of seeing both number

really going does and then increase more apps, continuing more counts what bit looks But in expand bring from we to to returns. going focus continue a the it be and to of So to forward originate quality. risk-adjusted the quality the that’s shift

Jeffrey Brown

only or consistent been I’d asked on-boarded been accounts really other with consistent very differently there, has maybe about rest the credit it’s we months point book. dealers you have perform so, from past the haven’t see been with say, the on performance, a XX of as the perspective the new Maybe very any

Robert Wildhack

That’s you, great. guys. Thank

Jennifer LaClair

Thank you.

Jeffrey Brown

Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Thank you.

comes the Sandler. of question Kevin Piper line Our from Barker from next

Your line is now open.

Kevin Barker

you. to but CECL, you’ve some you’re comments provision helpful. out Thank Could on provision to quantification stable, to in very thought XXXX, were laid to the you what loan regards the impact there? I on impact which expense I just your expense. reserves In incremental provide going around understand keep overall, your given

Jennifer LaClair

sure. Yeah,

think, I the you’re Kevin, some at So X day getting of impact.

and we’ve we’re we’ve reserves. put we’ve as we’re in our every there been our where there, of increases embedded across portfolio, the But those in out of So mindful growth guidance one seeing businesses. growing single

will growing So auto – auto modestly. retail be

were We’re that now the reserving fairly guidance reserving that’s it’s we X.X% you. embedded gave at a over all and as in X% But XXXX. before, head we into impact versus we the modest

and we that’s see that’s to keep There we’ll portfolio, to around CECL to strong to continue opportunities are at and want mind, we’re CECL, through we growth to have factors Now back. continue we hold let to changes. returns originate in new that just know. we have If macroeconomic the what risk-adjusted us as here work variable in the not

some unknowns So there. there are

way thing the the last CECEL have with the have then we the reversion is I’d mean, about And approached the we to included Great say which in Recession.

kind an in kind macroeconomic there. just that go embedded That’s assumption forward got of volatility should some from a headwind And we’ve embedded from the of we made. perspective. reduce the macro so, we’ve And as of that just already

Kevin Barker

around industry just conservative say somewhat a to on standards assuming in it fair would order slowdown you of taking and a – the that more So versus what view remain economic outlook the provisioning? conservative be to wide were

Jennifer LaClair

we’ve I Yeah, are and I made would portfolio, that embedded the just in in that say in we’ve very we balanced the mean, trend how at longer term assumptions is the all X. been just looked the what day

Kevin Barker

think post-CECL have balance implementation Okay. on And to how that the currently tougher of an yielding, on you environment? your this, asset classes are CECL but would about then, certain that may lower sheet may be be hold impact in

Jennifer LaClair

and CECL. shareholder mentioned long-term customers to at remarks, risk-adjusted – want terms trying as all mean, I as driving of my But to nothing we’re optimize focus and that’s returns. value I long-term value yield related profitability We which to in prepared important our we on what’s look, of in not portfolios the well. mean, continue and various to us, is Yeah, changes our to for always I

Kevin Barker

Thank you questions. for my taking

Jennifer LaClair

you. Thank Absolutely.

Operator

Thank you.

Our line next JPMorgan. Shane from from question Rick the comes

Your line is now open.

Richard Shane

mismatches. Hey, is guys. like I’d we Thanks time a about lot Look, different asset this think compare sort which for my of question. spent way, thinking slightly liability gathering of a innovative asset in mean and awards franchise. franchise taking to your is pejorative the where business. way, strikes you’ve edge a don’t I cited It one gathering a traditional very is and you’ve the other received. cutting in and with your me, that And deposit about

particularly I’m demographic curious, look over what a evolve when how from will you see, customer that time? you and see – convergence? perspective at Will you those differences bases, is

Jennifer LaClair

highest that And continue the that look the see in lead say is just in And we can we’re auto NPS appreciate through of what the lot on innovative industry. topnotch positioned digital, all will entrants, across then, Rick, I that Yeah, Better.com us has to businesses. question. deposit for a of the at And, customer of the new I fully offering space. end-to-end has yeah, well created the I wouldn’t with very of side. we the think digital And a scores absolute we’ve auto. modernization are across you some some our of partnerships experience

new we absolutely product the now we edge acquired, in out say would with the what thing cutting I HCS, platform And I’d just with have Lending. And are leading we that the and Ally terms there. same of say

in as that in to well space leaders are and there. we’ll lead continue and grow We

did see liability across the be And there. millennials number JB, at But side, you base the we’re I customer a is mass deposit just just view. from two. a pace side. across want to a difference to products, our on profile. ask if I don’t don’t – in the know mean, all balance on about very asset an you account rapid point perspective. growing of of goal tends customer our the I innovative more anything from And but big not So But to we add be also affluent

customers overlap, existing certainly terms in, the mentioned XX% business. we’re see the are deposit of And in Ally overlap Better.com we the from new originations of and Lending Mortgage, I the bringing coming do

certainly of side see on lot even our liability the overlaps of all with across a and and we So Invest. businesses asset

Richard Shane

of Got customers? you I success that borrowing your the it. look, second it, you be question, or across I I customer innovative And answer that appreciate look of of had really part all – to products. at more business deposits to curious, you terms the selling loans have in the to need to profile. customers when like I’m depository

Jennifer LaClair

in the platform. we Invest It’s over product Invest only advisory opportunities. we great into Invest example new to And new tight to in see our connection a It’s the continuing of customers space, asset deposit but continue of capabilities, Lending, that And former. mining the our for business new of not as outside add from grow. Mortgage very come a deposit is third that. And then, just

Richard Shane

guys Thank time. your you for

Jennifer LaClair

Thank you.

Jeffrey Brown

Rick. Thanks,

Operator

Thank you.

Hecht Our next Jefferies. question is from John from

open. now is line Your

John Hecht

of very much. my have Thank you, guys, and asked been answered. questions Most

been would day would it that suggested guidance, able the First I’m you range? wondering, been out you is or like generally it adjusted the it the under have EPS in to impact was XXXX, with curiosity. – modest. of X are same accrual Jenn, are it one seemed share us, in is the higher method have

Jennifer LaClair

rate a pre-fund that’s higher the we in just would especially at back-half day And been It elevated levels incurred bit year. XXXX, than capital would X And one. a have have because under in had just impact we have then, little to this reserve of be do number we to higher.

John Hecht

more much. or indication very there you’re an Thanks any what then, talk funnel flat. And Is selective about through of generally but applications, were the you pulling commentary originations other in around terms is growth being that? is that second Okay. strong of the in

Jennifer LaClair

on seen our to slowing returns. what or the we any been – sign And more competitive around set can applications in down. down And looks don’t that John, book increase in haven’t that in, you tying to book to of that your XXXX. see around the get, flows. any of we we and terms that our you selective risk-adjusted several The has more in strategy the and slowing of And slow bring question, be increasing you here we here reach down the can I we more do past quarter expecting application signs what that the we first Yeah, really the sheet. this by driving mean, quality, bar continue years over balance higher

Jeffrey Brown

we I’d Ryan That pricing ties us integrated giving about that as John, that say confidence Nash, as into around power the just together. it’s got well. from question well all initial And,

John Hecht

guys. much, very Thanks Perfect.

Jeffrey Brown

Thank you.

Jennifer LaClair

Thank you.

Operator

Thank have time all questions. the for you. now we That’s

Daniel Eller

Relations thank Okay, follow-ups. for That free call. to to you. Investor operator, reach any Feel concludes today’s out

Operator

and Ladies Thank participating. call. you today’s this concludes conference for gentlemen,

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Ally Financial (ALLY) 22 Jan 202019 Q4 Earnings call transcript