GEF - Earnings call transcript Q1 2019

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Operator

Good morning. My name is Christa, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Greif's First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. And after the speakers' remarks, we will a question-and-answer session. you. Thank Instructions] [Operator to call like host to Matt Eichmann. turn would over the your I

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Matthew Eichmann

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Peter Watson

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Larry Hilsheimer

Good Please Thank turn to X. everyone. Slide morning, you, Pete.

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Peter Watson

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Operator

[Operator Your Baird. first the comes line Please ahead. go from Ghansham Panjabi Instructions] from question of

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Ghansham Panjabi

Hey, guys. morning. Good

trying lower your you to revised guidance, Caraustar Greif to now, So all guidance adjusted and EPS here Greif just the you at first legacy relative initial guidance, guidance. legacy on guess I'm if understanding have versus I understand off in the the how have initial

Larry Hilsheimer

Ghansham. thanks, Sure,

customers the also slowly, You've going in sort I follow core German know lot Let Benelux with the me and with the our what's walk Coast talked their markets companies, region. as certain seen Rhine of you regions in weakness chemical through this of levels lot obviously, of Gulf we River a about a in on we about with and troubles and things specifically talked the

$X.XX that $X.XX are can $X.XX. of the it's that would any range $X.XX end I so end the I And but an worse on start share highlight again, $X.XX The by then you've be to change and to of it see range of to if anybody comments, got for in would first that impact months If you mentioned numbers you when $X.XX as take to both X.X as think our through So $X.XX the from Caraustar steps. are to $X.XX and high $X.XX to betterment more those in an other and to maybe look through weaknesses there of the with so basis so on the that hopefully on that our the $X.XX low on business up of for difference the at and medium to one-time original $X.XX the OCC $X.XX to ongoing $X.XX end assumption $X.XX that it from out our impact $X.XX. prepared $X.XX the the would as Caraustar for remainder I about $X.XX only on adjust of legacy the it thing the obviously. play I items and bottom we of you would year that's to for which the questions I has of my is the take walk low high would $X.XX in then in cost

does helpful, Ghansham? that So

Ghansham Panjabi

Are any to embedding y for related you on you fiscal very sort the are unfolding follow-up, about It's you so helpful. quarter, specifically year from recovery RIPS as XXXX? for specifically Pete know your for I but segment second the macro Larry, And guidance my well cost the relates call that volumes rest and thinking the the much. for just as of steel segment volumes. I of price and Yes. focusing guess Thanks issue how just

Peter Watson

see continued calling X.X% their our forecast global full-year of year in That's on normalization relative end rate our a so hopefully to tensions. destocking are feedback through Ghansham, volumes, current easing customers environment. the And weakness from a really we're who half more drums. and Yes, a second we global steel for getting overall at negative

We digit in We plastic low growth a our year. single in to are and through groups growth substrates. for see continuing full-year the plastic see single-digit high good drums IBC

Operator

Your next question Wilde comes .Your Please BMO go open. line from the from line is of Capital Mark Markets. ahead

Mark Wilde

out group, there that want in having pulp last week deck with paper Good and say morning, to Larry. packaging some Good paper earnings. weakness I night container board the grades. recycled slide reports and the have of just appreciate Pete. ongoing I morning, on been wondered in paper we

think kind I we weakness the with in they're wondered touched and medium, market some get that your you've talking what's if could perspective on the on about I sheet on also markets. of corrugated but in going those

Peter Watson

Yes.

recycled to regard segment had of volumes which seeing were North packaging strong paper X.X% in double so American in me same is we we're the almost and what terms in our really sheets back in packs, board, So industry up, period. what corrugated the container let up the was our paper

spot medium appear a industry the We growing. change that it was was but little the now, it I flat of market of small participation. published because degree be and rate of honest still bit domestic a price higher In our on recycle to prices, regard was that at from it surprised paper is to are percentage QX easing growth has to for pricing QX may seeing influence

really important in good corrugated think last we We're seeing it's to and the sheets a but not market than see same QX. growing had that be again, sheets, patterns, less in saw we happens quarter. think what still the I Again it now. growth in March I in to pace but a in that's to but as growing regard what we're X.X% growth corrugated

Mark Wilde

some around as long this think Okay wondered kind unusual of term --I of that's it's this kind how of on, about medium you see the very And pretty ways the you it a also and below OCC, Usually process up go high long a with and container down follow sort is costs. just and close .I to So just finally a for of business? couple things And collection from historically trend. actually board give of $XX to now just the just price just long quite sustainability cost a low us combination to and move the just the OCC OCC just of to and Caraustar term can What's very cost OCC container how out board. prices then tends processing? OCC? the on of sense $XX collected

Peter Watson

engaged The first that --there'll cyclical view whether it'll pricing container again the the I it's container is China goes, because think cost My China the Marks. rates demand of in pricing of but of the than earlier. changes we you think they place with described are in all to OCC. than supply demand inventory. in thanks as industry, as the less reflected board period or container or which board have know restrictions in in CRB by And that the be so would have parallel of is regardless question And regard relationship and pricing I time, frankly be No, we've different is of that OCC cycles URB normal and and pricing any the and you'll obviously is quite the long a weeks your environment be volatility I seen that paper and China participate that In been past regulatory as and is. that created lower a market driven in of the cost they what in a not for past. than board operating you will think in are contaminants I expect OCC be I think in where that's

norm me on collection So to OCC new cost. a it's

Larry Hilsheimer

you we get on would then you that obviously point I think think Mark, have level, closer supply. which as a that to collection on set gets have On this firm impact don't might cost, some down handle but to

Operator

next comes Chercover Steven of Your from from line ahead. question Please the go Davidson.

open. is line Your

Steven Chercover

Thanks, good morning, everyone.

to does Just scattered push there path that through? things come the on geographic you and that ability still want encountering ask to realizations where are you're the to more RIPS? through undermine Is in weakness

Larry Hilsheimer

for If for of as and No, designed yes, just question. to unit, value sales North just XXXX a at us, per weaknesses it's material $XX.XX, a I'll and volume context year you I Steve to are The that implications unit was versus $XX.XX our actually really per of the the if give the a focus are and cost ago first it unit. that. price in I so thanks mechanisms the on add America a minute, so look these little pass-through impacting working expanded quarter around that

gotten were have actually bit. we to started to us things we bite a where the back before So

contracts get so are been that in have to but --they're been in And three-year per been gone negotiate is unit one good renewing the you the other those you teams for increases. cost those the year-over-year go actually contracts, And our contracts. PAMs to it's openers that impactful has to the a US. historically is We negotiate really might on to thing have as go basis, transportation price which having and and steel the operating and to be openers, was got in the annual unit ever your of which two What have not about time appropriately. caught significant now increase into and only we've really by

unit. the cost was QX, put in a this XXXX $X.XX was in to in it $X.XX transportation QX, Just unit; a XXXX context, unit per

to little been to to year-over-year to And to of but we've cost action discussions, for also you increases started to was take from have relative opener and XX.XX So looking moved add area. some data, impact. plastic but the that more transport XX.XX in a you we its other flat transport still it price might XX.XX as steel working try more from just bit you the squeeze about XX%-- have it through And, unit those other impactful fiber moved obviously increasing push well. to per $X.XX Steve, unit in on up that large on and have as as mitigation we IBC's obviously $X.XX very but and to substrate give moved see that expect gone in XX.XX

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Steven Chercover

Okay. I'll that but the that fair Is it those for at to should the lot get read be steel to transcript numbers, a all for thanks lapping it transportation least say the and of detail. less first of headwind? of duties the impact

Larry Hilsheimer

Well, average yes cost in when steel thing they two cost is and I for decreased really in down mentioned and variations, index in index for and decreases steel increases come but we've quarter, not no. And The this the XX that historically. that's past the calendar one And good rapid the as December us you different to talked the really we rapidly in have shareholders The and transcript maybe in contracts unfortunately across or they're this the index. mentioned for the our Pam have our quarter. about we contracts.

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is driving attributed all the And that's is operations that us. our saw we and for to decrease not reduction in are in what of our so that a legacy forecasts significant business And rapid in volume. helpful --in the that our December

for us that really unfortunate happens. have to So timing

of is us. front So again headwind in the unfortunately

Steven Chercover

conviction early, perhaps keys the you ongoing given encounter the any now volume that this the is of your the have the your current softball and it's Okay RIPS. biggest but on Does super to increase to Caraustar. headwinds deal in you observations merits

Larry Hilsheimer

couldn't --we are We positive. more be

the thanks Steve, for softball. I think yes,

be Investor $XX We about engagement of the are did and excellent pleased to team talked you they are unit proud the with run with our be when And the I rapidly confident to we'll David Day, and of about when They're million to we leadership. $XXX financing Their a Greif. June Greif EBITDA part operators. talking his feel rate we drive the than were to north the that the - integrating of XXXX because Lloyd business love extremely debt extremely looking We number on buying at that a interest, rates million talent come it's able in And we substantially XX% rate And oversubscribed, done multiple, that's paying we $XX deal makes that be basically you're deal. effectively got drove deal. which if expected. at that for what yield accretive us something markets obviously interest much will interest deal X% tell really fiscal our the Xx and cost million were that. you in getting an you're a we're lower into transaction.

on about So expect that better well. it we're as really we do excited really will synergies and

So, Thanks yes, we're really bullish. for the softball.

Operator

Please question Your next KeyBanc. go Josephson comes from the Adam from line of ahead.

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Adam Josephson

taking my and thanks questions. morning, good and for Matt, Larry Pete,

if some on guidance. year is the am price wrong, think some not index in I'm said me mistaken. Just, as the which of the you Correct outlook for rigid of down your I for decline is $X.XX steel to the back the is $X.XX guide which related, Larry, I for volume

Europe of lot And months positive three China. commentary seeing seen, have demand you're a and in you didn't had ago weakness Now in you rigid.

cost what wondering and just how weaker got issue? months I'm So steel incrementally business, that particularly that is is even worse much later much how three in demand

Larry Hilsheimer

Yes.

steel it, the major some cost currency Also Adam. there's issue a is So headwind us. for component of

and area Gulf particularly that's service, we're through we at levels net hope quickly. relative we to weakness yes, currency also thought that some to there is the earnings the in existent we would that our of to and we're have us, seeing was talked for that flowing that we a hearing a forecast The weakness good bit not it. Although, time impact see But, nice around do had than business business. in of which things seeing packaging a our the that turning about more specialty was that now we more

and this in the not economy the is have increase I substantial would up. if currently reached any we is where trade we're Now baked back at say bucks agreement

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Adam Josephson

And And board container on mind to two linked; about that demand. Larry. prices. between one on container it's the are supply and I about said just in Mark's or questions historical follow more thanks, your Okay, OCC Pete up the think of just relationship not you

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me demand XX So --if related there. wrong supply are and board to are month, are would I'm it's inventories that two, falling by conditions demand Thank rates container are the prices and year to And if correct supply if you agree high operating deteriorating? you.

Peter Watson

negative small will with of they driven, the think Coast pricing. that future markets. now cost but spot forward. we think change Yes, percent And on there operating rates inventory I I weeks rates in of don't and that participating was I that, pricing. I are because can inputs $XX medium I are I pricing surprised positive on you drive rates in hand the but and And again very West I that a paper of going the drive no, industry you and that think right as influence in agree comment not positively was $XX was or tell mentioned think I operating inventory at again

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I think operating all and on rates factors demand it's supply which based and inventory. are

Operator

Your Please line Wells Hajde next a question Gabe go from ahead. Fargo comes Securities. from of

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Gabe Hajde

next steel shift us customers. of we Pete, be going could any elaborate nature that a an early you to impact bulk or trade about comment or Larry, or more seems I color XX for morning, as can mean of opposed the And I structural the sort a months? shift how like that volumes are your issue back shipping to it something drum Pete, good made, question gentlemen. is provide question the related some that's more to And the could really guess in toward how on XX in otherwise? over that you

Peter Watson

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Gabe Hajde

guess necessarily more I business. the trade. it doing customer This clarify way to to related doesn't change sound is initiative Okay. they're a is this like to

Peter Watson

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Gabe Hajde

Net provide transaction forward it here like Is at of largest question. the guys quarter. Promoter a resource picture large-scale come scores you diligence world I be all that this but anything guys the when so And company's there to want the made problem bigger in won't looked necessarily us tick you integrate lets comfort and doing midst executing outside the in first the draw time a as history. in kind can you upon that last were time us in us necessarily same they business? that down Okay, at fiscal gives this I the obviously of allocation going the correlation had you acquisitions, don't look

Peter Watson

Yes.

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Larry Hilsheimer

because thing. me of maybe be shiny from reaction are We've add going past tried we as before. that, I and to to to object it'd of of to let the about think be kind comfort learn just sort the distracted common on a give And Gabe, new the of talked lessons focus we've

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Operator

comes Please line Mark Your next of Wilde question BMO Capital go ahead. from from the Markets.

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Mark Wilde

talk the footprint made And of just of of that RIPS? of kind mentioned sense called think can a you you the just ago. a if release. follow-on. of it to I just And in forward, end where now then recent say restructuring that you through of Yes, day us couple could sort RIPS back vendor the business looking in little moves trying you've a walk I'm Pete, challenges the you've bit about five couple the get that was years also versus in size the out the a IBC at

Peter Watson

Sure, in closed operations. so closing closure We or four the of process China. in RIPS, we've about a in either talked

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Larry Hilsheimer

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Operator

Sidoti question line & next the go Dan from Your comes from Company. of Jacome ahead. Please

open. is line Your

Daniel Jacome

Hi, good morning.

quick drives the quo? if trends. or like give X% little that two? Do can us you're at sustainable capacity you. seeing this what X%. yes, Just CorrChoice confidence? confidence bass next this year on point you growth questions. And out two have industry looks Can is IBC Thank maybe teaser looks up line the what high-level even And, persist or then global that rate like into marketplace a you just at a status there a question on very point

Peter Watson

the service offerings. the business, question businesses. first-- that lot wall, money I'll the some that is coatings product really that invested and product successful specialty CorrChoice and So intensity in with customers in we've driven high partnering growing litho-laminator specialty Asitrade are say the And specialty of has their coatings, first been strategic triple model and very on a

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Daniel Jacome

new anything sustainable. I'm a Thank pricing potential that terms we about is of to IBC power Is the capacity the marketplace sense the capacity in there the robust status you. trying itself. or just marketplace like introducing quo? get market, I Yes. wondering have product is that on just expect the is global you the should was

Peter Watson

Yes.

is adding capacity at not the And additional X% globally a we're the markets others that global So in to are do IBC growing or growth. market of adding pace that year. about X% outstrip

So demand. supply demand scenario you have coming and unbalanced than necessarily with capacity don't on an more

as have And again very diverse the behind vibrant customers got again portfolio a we as want that with relationship see that on very us long-standing that supply customers but rigid portfolio. talked little capacity, our the we and that to us the we've business business, building encouraged So curve we're in do. we've products vibrant bit a most about of

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Operator

final comes Josephson Adam a of go line from Our from question KeyBanc. Please ahead.

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Adam Josephson

Larry. and Pete Thanks

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Larry Hilsheimer

Yes.

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million for you to $XX both working in So of top that scale. if XXX, ends of page the range on with capital start add a of improvement XXX just

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that you So of up million of that take to the of bonds. down $X way point gets has work interest payments the the expense expense And on double just because million. the out interest $XXX to on million I'll out mechanics the $XXX just coupon

exactly we said in as that I and XXXX. expense ends is that XX-month full And range year roughly so earlier, year up year being repeat $XXX be expect next this in won't what and million interest in to it

Adam Josephson

like had past much cash this the adjusted free in and to free you've kind and planning talked EBITDA. these Larry you incur know adjusted restructuring away thanks I asked cash years about flow? I to that charges How you just past because from a you cost number adjusted from of exclude and in all are just related moving numbers of kind adjusted as flow the adjusted And numbers And years numbers. in talked you're cleaner just just opposite using more well. you lieu seems kind moving impairment moving to charges the and financials. about direction wondering how and more of just P&L using in up I'm now cleaning it you back of of about somewhat the of feel

Larry Hilsheimer

remember the I Yes, I number up cost. related costs. that's no, to think relative of related. integration related the you acquisition don't you costs acquisition standard that this. pretty integration excluding it's --Matt, end a That's the

Matthew Eichmann

the reconciliation cash flow. future If a to that back estimate. there's Adam, operating of and Try to release, do you go

Larry Hilsheimer

items mentioned our possibility also in not that things end Caraustar things also that out. be most sights compensation remarks have equity that I I guess as excluded. up any that worth you which people that then And would relative of have my people probably could do. on of nothing end I in do excluding lot prepared a be don't highly you restructuring small kind when thing. and in of I that acquisitive things it to think like sense the related actions Matt. we you, Adam, number to overall out a getting today we some of what markets taking we're talked is makes see in, obviously up past with companies the relative of Thank But don't would we play tell one-time We And stated we question, the to are about we Philippines had did $X.XX but also costs. a

numbers. our straight, So so we it play to we about feel try but good

Operator

session. will for remarks. And over turn to this it question-and-answer concludes Matt closing now our I

Matthew Eichmann

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Operator

may participation. great Thank now you disconnect. day. And today's a you for This conference Have call. concludes your

Greif (GEF) 28 Feb 192019 Q1 Earnings call transcript