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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Year-End Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-mode. Later will be conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host Chief Financial Officer Steve Nicola. sir. ahead, go Please

Steve Nicola

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Joe Bartolacci

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Operator

you. Please We’ll ahead. CJS Securities. go with Moore of line to go Daniel Thank Instructions] [Operator

Daniel Moore

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Joe Bartolacci

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Daniel Moore

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Steve Nicola

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Daniel Moore

on growth even though wanted EPS make XXXX sure just consistent fiscal similar then that, Got with just clarify to they headwinds you the feel comments correct. so through I your EPS growth Joe it to ’XX want to and comfortable

Joe Bartolacci

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Daniel Moore

housekeeping assuming any Got it, Steve, rate next just tax about? changes thinking we perfect. should be not this policy in lastly And obviously at stage. for What year

Steve Nicola

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Operator

go the of Burke with to we’ll FBR. Please Liam Next, B. go ahead. line Riley

Liam Burke

SGK recent talked prepared in that are How offset you in the Joe, you are acquisitions SGK the is America. weakness in statements, the acquisitions helping happening? brands North the how about brands in your

Joe Bartolacci

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Liam Burke

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Joe Bartolacci

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Operator

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Scott Blumenthal

history. right? Joe, that in sales I the Is corporate largest was think this quarter

Joe Bartolacci

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Scott Blumenthal

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Joe Bartolacci

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Scott Blumenthal

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Joe Bartolacci

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Scott Blumenthal

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Joe Bartolacci

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Operator

of go ahead. go with we’ll Next, Please Clement Macquarie. line to Jamie

Jamie Clement

pipeline could potentially larger appetite be months, the doing over and Joe, what landscape, on your the in next give XX to as you XX deals? also we at us would the look your your just months thoughts M&A M&A guys'

Joe Bartolacci

Yeah.

do So, each opportunities we that businesses are have the be the two at would different in and pipeline we What there want various things. of is put might At states to what the it way, and to activity. one rich, do say I we let’s our as choose that allocation make and in we the the in same long-term. time, capital permitize sure interest of cautious on want what’s both do of of now that we very some debt to right company short-term to look our are the and we we right are this we environment of

be appetite more from for be our not accretive than always there, would right it like not is So, structure larger likely to and it probably the as we some to as may deals done going with be, standpoint. it’s equity capital but be

capital the this about lack don’t to to opportunities for we that Jamie you time. tell would allocation I it’s So, acquire, more at proper

Jamie Clement

And I would want I to accelerate also wouldn’t imagine sell, right? if that they

Joe Bartolacci

might having want one sell somebody and have that’s out benefit that businesses not in beneficial to to it might case another always some of that’s in business, us. multiple there, the right. does been it the That’s But

Jamie Clement

if group. As right and breakdown you now, you at look the at the at at memorials, industrials brand look you look rough revenue of that look you if

out and consider in any the you reason sort thing? years bigger getting a about business look why is years five positive you that momentum wouldn’t As XX industrials talk lot e-commerce the of to there given in

Joe Bartolacci

get to expect bigger. We

or come. to be million that significant growth organic existing grow but expect I honest this we’ve of would $XXX group would got that several create over we opportunities. We’ve tell internal $XXX next themselves, they year, investments are our this as you plans also sales This that internal for a to coming years target years a internal to opportunities well fairly and from $XXX for replicate so. five get double-digit it’s made, has million to to million that to through acquisition the an lot coming it’s we you and Our target -- with -- year and lot

relative to this group. more So, business of rest get balanced we’d to like the the

Operator

ahead. of David Great Review. line we’ll Stratton with Please Next, go Lakes go to

David Stratton

morning. taking questions. Thank Good for you the

already I touched cadence in little Can a insight year? into hit forward you moving and think to how on give have the the you you you commodity throughout any bit. expect locked us might much cost commodity cost

Steve Nicola

Dave. months. Thanks, with we’re several respect to Yes, bronze generally out

case, the steel, bit continues And purchasing a a little so different to with respect cadence. that’s that the to be different commodity and of

the caskets, shipped are cycle of steel it cost particularly expect and part the experienced because inventory the to one the that is continue, we today already distribution but to cost to cost, things that to comes recognized. of the do those little before on we’ve sales So, become increase ultimately when of inventory customers side become we higher steel bit you purchased a our our centers have in to remember they

months sales. that period before is in actual the of there of a cost process our reflection occurs So, in

David Stratton

are is shape you to looking up now, talked product quarters the how and of for then the R&D year, that this Got with cost that the disruptive about you through secondly to will driven at and to R&D think do time this out hit? fall be as continue they higher going to what will going -- that you rolls are off cost some effectively or

Steve Nicola

this we year continue say first fall recognizing develop R&D you they’re those they’ll cost commercialized to into Well recognize, because you’ve to and right to of take cost. The cost respect but those to product sales cost we to with part themselves to when to recognize actually your cost that David then as absolutely to and on R&D going we R&D revenue suggestion. product actually the we the it those then ship continue market off, revenue start become we’re start we start becomes as

that sales transition product. we’ll So and and to will those project cost transition profitability to any related recognizing that will obviously to see on cost revenues be will

impact So, is of those we’re today net decline. will actually the feeling costs

David Stratton

fiscal ’XX? similar level seen XXXX of as you we’ve Do or expect in costs

Steve Nicola

and level ’XX starts states R&D the similar targeted to by commercial into R&D the we of cost of as again transition then launch actually end that’s cost expect approach yes, ’XX the when happen. we a our we reach

Operator

I’m other the this at showing in questions time, queue. And no

Joe Bartolacci

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Matthews International (MATW) 17 Nov 172017 Q4 Earnings call transcript