PEIX - Earnings call transcript Q3 2019

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Pacific Ethanol Incorporated Third Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded [Operator Instructions].

I would now like to hand the conference to your speaker today Moriah Shilton of LHA Investor Relations. madam. ahead, go Please

Moriah Shilton

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Neil Koehler

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Bryon McGregor

Thank you, Neil.

corn corresponding prices resulted average compared gallons $XXX in the of gross in For material gross million, sold in quarter, net of $XX.X but increase to million. profit quarter The $XXX growth $X loss was party million quarterly a $XXX without increase sales Cost ethanol of of prior this the the the were in goods third third of compared coming sold. from second million most in a prices million quarter. to XXXX,

second increase SG&A $X.XX available in benefits. in per an and in professional reflecting million million or common expenses share per to were to Loss an $X quarter. share the $X.X $X.X services employee shareholders million the quarter, million or compared $X.XX compared to medical $XX.X was second

to EBITDA quarter Adjusted $X.X negative compared was of $XX.X XXXX. million in second the million,

the of repair and facilities. million, nine for ongoing attributable expenditures of months $X.X capital maintenance our XXXX to totaled Our first mostly

were to sheet, balance equivalents our $XX.X Coming XXXX. million compared XXXX, at cash million $XX.X cash at September our and XX, to June XX,

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Neil Koehler

in Industry, the are near developments supply you, ethanol we're And and and moving two Thank for Bryon. by balanced into is year. any the the high quarter. fourth year time encouraged lows inventories closing, promise to increase octane XXXX. low regulatory margins trade demand carbon thus demand more ethanol In this than positive far and

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With that, the questions. to call open Joelle, for I'd like

Operator

Thank you. Stine comes [Operator with instructions] Craig-Hallum. Eric first question from Our

Your line is now open.

Eric Stine

Bryon. Hi, Neil; hi,

Neil Koehler

Good morning, Eric.

Eric Stine

look co-product bit depressed quick return some co-product a previous on like quarter, also in volumes is versus elevated So or quarter the quarters. basis and the just

just some an maybe that, then on some for going and outlook things quarter the So during of color maybe there the forward? that both occurred

Neil Koehler

been just dislocation fine. in certainly is out the Sure. than is This with begun Harvest corn planting areas has are in barely have crop a turning be actually itself better a year certainly the the some basis tough Midwest. on slow, areas particularly to But upper over others. concerns certain which late

would they not been selling. created as has in it elevated like been situation a So Pricing as to farmers have hasn't interested see. where,

lot storage. and have a of around that holding more with not storage onto lot the concerns You a And letting farm on go. supply,

overall basis resulted corn levels has higher have So that that than average. in been

So for that the did impact certain. quarter

As started late we've but into it's had an than certain elevated the seen corn we that others, impact. basis in move harvest, the areas worse quarter,

still We today's environment. are seeing in that

an and do and So year yield. on but bins, solid and strong we'll their if this you solid in potentially outlook, we and after the assuming update And it year. believe at the the of even looking the some harvest have is forward once projecting that, greater in forward, we and like more this morning get next expected a normal look outs offers, from a carry still plantings production looking crop ones with USDA

relax levels, to the into the to starting the seeing more levels. year and you first normal are as basis historical quarter, move to we and move of So end

have distiller in return, strength seeing oil. in little you some On and co-product We're the a corn seen softness today. grain

co-product say, quarter impact corn return the been between the the than the has more of So I basis an in two, results. would

Eric Stine

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do have that like in quarter. But debate So the do mean, it how stand - of here you sounds fourth improved a quite production you things in the things debate? in trend What stand where industry? bit I the for I where with mean, obviously

Neil Koehler

on levels. not margin where increased still X% - have to inventory, to forward the X% true market, environment we're certainly, last has improved, about even kind X% an the the the today. below. the showing we several running not of is forward same we're clarity, enough seeing over it's or curve weeks, the and production The still running where about point before with Well, is below gotten inverted year And but X% not profitability

commit before it's curve that you're that's more bring shut see we as want that do plant work in to a if in to you're clarity think working that have to people capital we backup. to fire on today, continue can will going an industry to plant that more forward work - past. this back and area, do down the We to you're forward I we that think roll But it. see going more than the disciplined it's been well, is the

that as there's with always that that we of are industry that an in back we quite And which we that seen not and supply continue But margins, time up keep demand ramp overdo optimistic risk balance. we and will some get it that industry positive will right, out better to the we balance. we see and have in cautiously production you're

where Because the we demand. is have industry current - know we producing demand. the in ultimately, that really prepared the that capable see So remarks, also, I than more do we to it's an is of the important market, wanted

more starting into And with we move we the that that while confident is going as as next and year. an incremental year still demand on that next we so demand rule believe result arm final to forward. in rule, And wrestle a is truly move bit EPA, the we of are critical domestic

we growth quickly arm will And that be we for could even demand a the China to struggling we full resolution to to the to see shot And the running ethanol. meet move will closer exports. that in real in continued capacity, where where be with could

Eric Stine

for Last me. one Okay.

things movement are going review. potential there strategic RVO the getting be on environment you in can that easier got the give can't you've - be front. appreciate, it favorable I bit is may like sales favorable other there underway. But in on Just Are I little can to specifics. things And I you a triggered or mean, This sounds to any a China that that trade. by XXXX would speak regard or mean, given

Neil Koehler

Yes.

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helpful But it's being so as very it next we transactions. year, bad, do to how very complete conducive a are in current favorable things able this. move outlook, and having is like, favorable when can so And and well, we into market

Eric Stine

Okay, thanks.

Operator

[Operator Dayal Thank And instructions] next H.C. comes Amit from you. with Wainwright. question

open. now Your line is

Amit Dayal

Thank you. everyone. morning, Good

Neil Koehler

Good morning.

Amit Dayal

in of industry front of demand perspective, impacted a the in from an side how in or Just regular EXX basis, sort things? more has the the of impacted availability has and production now that market that

Neil Koehler

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nearly through have performance road EXX using car or continue for you EXX every the of virtually be sessions. The XXXX approved We on The economics have today either the by excellent. EPA. to warranty is

XX billion XXX to do XX And produce the gallons. are not a million another gallons believe But RFS is of to where find do pieces we a little there. conventional And critical. the minimum of the that the ethanol At EXX. under billion ethanol marketplace. is home gallon of XXX market, into to ceiling. Because XX.X a floor, need for billion a of all it's push the plus it get billion that's So that's we

both necessitate will EXX form EXX. and That blends incremental in the of higher

for with California, we EXX in year compliance increase collaboratively years the under the and use we're will very now of a do believe low blending to EXX further good compelling the So state working come. that that of in state the see prove important will be regulatory tool with standard. carbon we next of I'd signal, economics a of very note also the fuel to the proper EXX California of expeditiously which and

to fuels compression, blends the but engines. EXX So higher near we're not higher midterm, very blends, octane optimistic and EXX higher the on EXX, higher we move only as in combustion towards

Amit Dayal

getting some that ruling have become a out. you industry thing? for front, have and could type has about a we the or something were final come XXXX this or but keeps does some pushed you there that, into Is Thank play, there on already Understood. regulatory then of expectations this when on timeline come a

Neil Koehler

and is will timetable year, be billion But has which this to has President December. now, that, the in end rule, of in if XX will gallons, least is in meaning Now, will that. it we of final to to how committed play proposed because And we be definitely November get quite the in will which it end the committed believe is billion before it, gallons. the be be the rule fulfilled EPA The from XX the flipped XXXX. this sometime supplemental of the commitment the and year effect at

Amit Dayal

asked market on Got of changed on have some these place right it. anything I has now And this initiative improvements options as now? the strategic just all know the for table Eric with in or but side. the are lastly, still considering you taking well, been you the

Neil Koehler

on it, to And are work hard table. additional continue themselves. as options opportunities on we All the present

Amit Dayal

That's have. so Thank I Got much. you it. all

Neil Koehler

Thanks, Amit.

Operator

like further Neil showing any this Koehler turn would time. questions you. I'm for over now back I the call to to at not remarks. further Thank any

Neil Koehler

today you Ethanol. Thank speaking day. joining for you, you soon. Joelle. support thank with of and your Look forward Pacific And all to Have continued a great us

Operator

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