PEIX - Earnings call transcript Q3 2020

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Pacific Ethanol Inc.

Third Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants’ lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. now Moriah hand Relations. Shilton, would to conference I host, your with Instructions] like the to over [Operator LHA Investor go ahead. Please,

Moriah Shilton

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Mike Kandris

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Bryon McGregor

you, Thank Mike.

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fuel River in of goods million We gallons trading have in change filled sold third-party most associated the also for mid- Illinois loss of included approximately no with the year-over-year commitments rail typical period. idled repairs October our Cost $X.X lock by into XX anticipated gross late cost-effective the material Corps constraints The production. the and of million Cost reflects renewable less translated in the in sold decrease of resulting of that resulted million sold of requiring like date. profit through which our million closure to of same compared of anticipated $XXX prior gross days was beyond higher greater by gross $XX was third-party goods logistical use quarter. approximately original in the the truck Army Engineers profit significant costs. we in a $XX than this quarter transportation experienced of modes to Completion

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per of EBITDA SG&A favor million commercial million from $XX.X common share million efforts in of quarter reduce from available be favor our was lower to Adjusted positive $XX.X share we a the settlement compared issues further $X.XX diluted $XX.X $XX.X $X.XX As quarter quarter. -- million was of general income second EBITDA a or or per costs. second second of XXXX. debt and our to million the up in continue previously remaining we in half the professional to dispute. was expenses in XXXX resolve to noted, Income shareholders expected in in $XX.X third and Included

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of to we majority and when We outlook year report specialty XXXX has Regarding our terms contracted look production fixed the or providing at one quarter our end for year XXXX our more. alcohol already for prices of XXXX been results. forward fourth

June compared Turning balance our $XX.X XXXX and $XX.X million sheet. XX, our September XXXX. to At were to XX, million cash cash at equivalents

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Mike Kandris

Thank you, Bryon.

up the three our highlight to key remarks. takeaways open we Q&A, Before like I'd prepared for call from

stable PEI is First high-margin business. transforming to a

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Operator

Our Instructions] the Thank Stine Craig-Hallum. you. Eric question line with [Operator of from comes first

is line Your now open.

Aaron Spychalla

Eric. for Thanks It's Mike Yes. question. Aaron taking and for on Good the Spychalla morning, Bryon.

Mike Kandris

Aaron. Good morning,

Bryon McGregor

Aaron. Hi,

Aaron Spychalla

maybe put just high can deck. kind information just breaks production buckets the really color pricing how some talk bit various as ASPs of specialty down you your those at about, ranges in then on contract between and a think those Maybe areas? At on on of the level, some recent Hello. within you've those you great And kind give and slide little you just of trade-off the look buckets? first between kind alcohols just about how a duration

Bryon McGregor

Aaron. Yeah,

specialty alcohols. you So relation that, what that though probably up is significant beverage-grade to of significantly And higher contracts going that's effectively That what at degree of pre-COVID being say is the question Those that the is or industrial to export. and contracts? maybe through those think then GNS shorter. spectrum actually a we balance a industrial across there those your second a industrial part as rest guess, detail. or some disinfectants I I usually are a from imagine hand bit an would moment. going alcohols shorter sanitizers as in for little the there's your there's the Those of nature year was but provide in of months six to example I both don't other maybe are the nature, portion level to longer. can specialty Those said, of alcohols

Aaron Spychalla

the some think year as quite how had a and looks the and are of yesterday from on some for think hearing And in commentary vaccine time> be your it Mike demand Thanks for demand. is you Understood. about going thinking into something to they're Hearing they as we beyond? that like customers I them it's few here from remarks like picture sounds news next what head just mean, Okay. the color. thoughts on your then we your prepared on you

Mike Kandris

environment, course, from a Yeah. just even and to cautious. we've social Any that customers, forward. what – to to a look definite the to say, now, sensitive in And think that shift through are are people be have indications hearing gone to customers, new more normal figure is in there going of a through. I be cars schools. going motels rental to going the to are – like hotels is that what back they going the I vaccine see of our kind are going are the going The what that demand think People Aaron going received be out with very from forward. I treated people we're going we is would trying everybody feel way what our you'll

at What not places that's hearing from to is ends We're variety alcohol. be with market ultimately consumer that really we're part up increased that, to we're our on reason certifications products sure. why the And further can is of just alcohols. for and motivation, solely the specialty what So still with with our a we're one whole specialty to going continue segment of looking demand. we make the focused that customers not sure develop of there's

Aaron Spychalla

other color payback maybe then opportunities opportunities last reinvestment sheet capital me just on some for there on any the maybe can Okay. as for capital give? deploy able balance good And to And Are any of required there. to being well? maybe the just you periods and improve the see those some examples, investment

Bryon McGregor

Yeah.

a expenditure of this GNS So effectively Clearly, I complete of million the couple them. think completed $X.X you're looking gave – $X million Mike – system, year. about that at was which we'll

to and $X.X another there's that, exploit – what capital, and into a the first you capital in, yeast in difficulties and you've market projects our redeploy fair pent-up call opportunities also, system not million represent the of are the will capacity we've got yeast our it, it's the like. associated number instead I and series guess, own within three to I'd with where a the available last at repayment just expansions to to that we've I There's debt been or for be transportation of facility. expansion addition, invest think of had four fuel able given years, that, the could if In or

capturing would value and of of also I We differentiating with about, it providing chain you to guess, product. those services the how some think you deliver is haven't – more there opportunities if

going do. is intend product, an We have product truck And of we opportunity. looking able our call return be barge. you some withhold would if to than we're give reinvest the I supply we'll projects a and we two-year to that until, company. on on rail, we're committed very both the color likes have to dollars specifically what to ship to XXXX, And But a be hopefully, to But where are for right? interesting actually projects, and we're going describing by We paybacks in at and smaller deliverer return. less for that, that finally investment able about shareholders that's accretive and next say, packages

Aaron Spychalla

All right.

Okay.

Okay. I’ll taking We’ll stay the in there. Thanks questions. queue. tune hop back for

Operator

Thank you.

Our next question of Wainwright. comes with line the Dayal Amit from H.C.

Your open. line is now

Amit Dayal

Thank morning, you. Bryon. morning, Good Good Mike.

Bryon McGregor

morning, Good Amit.

Mike Kandris

good Hey, morning.

Amit Dayal

be to should free. of direction? your give how basis, a With respect relative we how debt in we some quarterly debt modeling potentially burden you play think if in of you XXXX quarterly out give you debt XXXX? how will sense mean, us how to of potentially about I some maybe we should burden could this if this would be And on I should know terms net could we model said But us it? a

Bryon McGregor

sheet have to is what on we're good our balance no guess us balance paying XX%. that does on debt it and I'd say generally cash and sheet X% I our

rational So we're address our and remaining working a as to issues. possible as lenders quickly repay in any debt that much way with

address say So would some expect way like on that we'll and repaid that year-end. in that still XXXX. I be to, most There be will may things of align debt guess, would residual or before if I we'd the I is,

Amit Dayal

before XXXX On or or year-end XXXX?

Bryon McGregor

Yes.

Sorry.

a and debt line have should term XXXX. related -- year-end working capital the not that's would be necessarily before address it of low-cost productive But we we'll or residual year-end running to into yes, maybe then And to not this credit. that our So by functioning year.

Amit Dayal

Bryon. out quarter? Are fourth additional Thank potential there any for Understood. in gains the you may that, play onetime that

Bryon McGregor

or -- assets. working we reposition Additional gains. we're to Mike want mentioned, Western as clearly Well our monetize on

think assets. as gross about I for can -- we And loss on cost quarter you noted, incurred we we had the that million those so of see $X.X associated

most So is margins cost current given alternative plants returning compared But alternative and plants mill regards idling a dry plants. those the the for them on at it for operation. what those cheap to for be those which not the and not at certainly -- to least it's would be these moment doing to to of except either as resolute Pekin makes But with we're us profitable. quick about -- to certainly sense

Amit Dayal

related Understood. come of for especially visibility And have some respect cetera? receive. the into Is like from market XXXX, sanitizer outlook et supplying looks sort may the the to it the the with products you're then you volume on to pricing variability to you going side,

Bryon McGregor

as I are clearly Yes, contracts But with that's expectations. mentioned are volumes fair. think But room any outlets as their to it. shelf retail and/or outlets it that the product mean, They are like. wouldn't and customers yet I anyone earlier cleared consumers do customers final hasn't example the that the our have as well good for an and working make force price. take to for Mike -- to

much contracted be as XXXX. is that So there pushed really, into I it otherwise we for that would guess about an as as the example way volume that think wasn't we would if that

a guess it be be with productive, relationship would be of how business of wouldn't type you not nor but could practices. a you it's work the customers building. fire, and that if, long-term question I particularly and customers So good your but when hold to

Amit Dayal

Understood.

me. seeing? are look Just margins will of like of current us this would Could the one once you has from on what give last to sort margins invested color we been levels accretive yeast some in? sort business be of And

Bryon McGregor

a Yes. is I what basis. on make would grain we've distiller at of you our think you in if look what I mean, otherwise multiples yeast it's product, dry often indicated

at you're yeast. if -- times if -- the that for earning XX it call you're between paying Somewhere $XXX,

million can benefits two back product I the do years, that gives doing $X.X it Now you're think kind to an spend not volume yeast you you than and idea generating XX% less our if of But that that probably in the being in that. same kind going we're said of increase math, it'll pay of product. of

reposition in hear protein-deficit space certainly And if effectively protein. opportunities right for have of you be renewable amongst opportunities great discussion take it's with additional grade it volume. while advantage now is co-product right? unique we -- that fuel unique what that well that in a we -- these high mill in take a to mills the have wet And producers efficient as And a And do benefits be producers what able advantage these to is of from of lot dry then more a ethanol facilities some You there's our of to that it still of that and in continue the that the looking values. we so and winner. to and can to those or protein to space the again generally real return produce company world, produce more of provides our there's that's to

Amit Dayal

you guys. have. That’s all Appreciate Thank it. Understood. I

Bryon McGregor

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our Hamed Khorsand Thank Financial. the you. next from line [Operator with BWS comes Instructions] question of

Your line open. is

Hamed Khorsand

Hi.

wanted ask, gallons XX contracts I So or based into million to entered you've for is majority the next million of gallons? year the first that off XXX just of

Bryon McGregor

Yeah. off higher It's based a capacity.

Hamed Khorsand

Is Okay. you? competition, guys lot FDA on pricing business specialty competitive about the And less at about, all have you and seeing rules. then, talked that for less landscape, alcohol of changing the -- because a the

Bryon McGregor

period. saw that still we're remarks, what those seeing seeing it That mentioned, prices you're that not historically. pricing? you average the in a was said, are certainly Mike that above seen in on otherwise, As supply-deficient prices changing high-peak Is the prepared we've being

have course So right? It the I think day-to-day changes specialty vaccine. various captured across being dynamic, alcohols. the a And then, chain, right? is the We from of it that's of value

We that They're longer going longer. to have take take to They're no vaccines shorter. approved. going are

sudden product in the no a shelf sitting of regulations. got a longer on that of that's accepted, You've because is changes all

lower-quality want They're forward. higher-quality are relief. really saying, be They're the products off-the-shelf not waiting So you to the the product. demanding changes going basically demanding we customers, effectively have that products and USP-grade now regulatory product for higher-quality or

Mike Kandris

to doing I Oh! Yeah. that would just me, the products that different to to addition excuse consumer our that happen lot broaden the add really -- of in going really look in market, to sanitizer things company a position hand to at are the and what's reach. we're

took there a was XXXX back again, in good producing when profitable XXXX, that QX, production And our a alcohol longer at a our up tap margin everything going what to XX term products. we positioned specialty were that, alcohols hand focusing year, If are can on you into of variety even that consumer market markets, look of into going And spiked, when But the into a business. that -- this we -- was substantially. -- soft into was making we're variety specialty really we we just saw look alcohol million that a with the sure not sanitizer.

Hamed Khorsand

to of how if you able alcohols, given demand your on would And you? changes fast, Okay. up be different change composition

Mike Kandris

production. And our that we're is have very flexibility, of can give other thing We production the area [ph] that -- have highest-quality the sure GNS also. that we'll us And produce. with doing, meet can in that standards flexibility. all in capability is product And we making expanded our to tremendous and that high that

Bryon McGregor

is And Mike, this Bryon.

not small if only that. we what right? pre-COVID expect a portion modest million Just you That gallons. And as one XXXX, to it's is to as bring is market otherwise maybe business. that diminished fairly thing the I'd sanitizers. a And of mention, made of XX that to Mike it's sanitizers relatively up point, product, hand significantly a saw to producing demand around was And hand that was certainly we portion the as on in alcohol specialty mentioned were so for continue just not in spike produce well

expand other make to you in business the the So and the the benefit can -- have and areas. still also of that but opportunity continue the certainly have desire you to

Hamed Khorsand

you. Thank Great. Okay.

Bryon McGregor

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

you. call Mike Thank to like to, closing session. back for would the remarks. now I Kandris, This today's concludes question-and-answer CEO turn

Mike Kandris

joining for you us Thank today.

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Operator

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Alto Ingredients (ALTO) 10 Nov 202020 Q3 Earnings call transcript