BRO - Earnings call transcript Q1 2022

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Operator

Please standby, we are about to begin. Good morning and welcome to the Brown & Brown, Inc.

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Powell Brown

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Andy Watts

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Powell Brown

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Operator

Elyse Instructions] Fargo. with Greenspan We [Operator Wells will begin with

Elyse Greenspan

thanks. the My is morning. first margin. Good Hi, on question

pointed for know, second compares you the tougher and I margins as Andy, half last to the increase in T&E the year-over-year out flat had pointed to guys that guys started have quarter you back the in year. of You year. first

since originally in that So position to start you see expected? to you than margins does the year, come better were margins flat guys the

Andy Watts

we're round of to guidance with the comments stick two that and the first pleased end year, good like fact this quarter. still could the quarter up pretty a full for up we're the for we'll the range that seems then the be probably last at very how the for us. slightly next see Elyse, I with first current stage. the year, year since think said we down at But quarter, let's full flat, But similar or our slightly,

Elyse Greenspan

doing Retail, great. the core you to strong business growth you in you in And versus quarter broad-based is expect compare you think I year, pretty us tough? my second year-over-year the organic. in quarter well? showed different to good being question, how growth growth would Retail then businesses. show about sense Okay, Can the this benefits the across And guys last terms benefits benefits. the as in year pointed a Should in give in the second of QX? Or know we second of

Powell Brown

anticipate with in performance quarter And we the we benefits and are those Retail. in pleased Elyse, business all the personal that So with P&C although of they very don't perform the of commercial, pleased second how performed in well break out we're lines very will quarter. and segments and first the we segments,

Elyse Greenspan

the any other last. looking Since announced one platform are could and guys translate you potentially announced into that some to then to update of kind seeing were you how that M&A guys opportunities the deals & in do you about And additional use Okay. talking for GRP overseas. market deal, you have Ireland you just Brown and that U.K. the on deal, When bolt-on do Brown?

Powell Brown

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Elyse Greenspan

color. the for Thanks Okay.

Powell Brown

Elyse. Thanks,

Operator

And Raymond from James. a next, we'll Greg Peters, question move to

Greg Peters

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Powell Brown

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Greg Peters

Got it.

clarification in answer. point a your Just of

at talent with renewals you about business? carrier any seeing as disruptive talked are the total book your churn of of you the I'm wondering, level. of You that think about consequence

Powell Brown

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Greg Peters

could cash flow this Got all provided based reported it. it of quarter zeroing what front I to that that their color probably you picture you've little conversion GRP colleagues I'm is is I you guess you. some getting with of the can us Thanks to the for I wondering us they you've but Give going you're how surprising, process if how a big this first bit I'm us comments on their the but out a you with and in the meeting been to performed time margin update. able profile, is give BdB. to another give on also see. which organic, what And us their free on know opportunity -- point. their perspective isn't how observing of on bunch mesh And how spent you before maybe know in results. some in use

Powell Brown

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Andy Watts

previous commentary overall cash in But no change And Greg, our with the regarding your and to been have and for businesses. profitability organic question about margins, address in the flow we'll organic businesses conversion once the us.

of. part the they're those divisions March, As going we to in back very that said similar in profile, which businesses and of early the part a has be

part and adding has changed their the nothing team very, So We're them very having about capabilities. excited be that of on front.

Greg Peters

go at that's quarter, cash that similar Andy, your the what's correct? bonuses like to the first through that GRP and on in cash point, expenses So and going flow on BdB,

Andy Watts

For there substantially but the some different most nothing phasing is part, yes, different.

Greg Peters

Thank Got the for you answers, guys. it.

Andy Watts

you. Thank

Operator

Truist. to now Hughes with Mark We'll move

Mark Hughes

morning. Good you. thank Yes,

on of curious the your volatility. this latest on thoughts Just net impact

growth Citizens dynamic? that Florida. you getting when growth we kind of think in Is some this in are of shifting say, rate you've to, good dislocation, of about faster got their in growth customers -- organic in California, and getting environment? you're over that but these impact the markets Let's Are is these organic this deductibles a because moving increases say, meaningful Florida,

Powell Brown

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Andy Watts

things other a big cat couple keep commission comes report put know this. on of revenue. the that properties in go There's and our Mark, you number just mind I of out research what as on a different Yes. into everything. factors out ultimately a

are that we and a in And as customers many in looking through our looking so at the carriers. you've different while purchasing got the deductibles limits in fact, commentary, in order is, we're they're we the mentioned to are online than commission rate taking case those rate up, adjust. their they're -- They've what other Citizens, that going got total of cases paid In up. at

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thinking So in consideration just marketplace. those try the all about to opportunity the in keep when of

Mark Hughes

the on impact EBITDA favorable one of at from of near the point in that timing revenue. here? National was term mentioned the Does You Programs, become more some

Andy Watts

Yes.

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when nothing you you -- at look they So unusual quarters, individual around. but can sometimes when move

Mark Hughes

a point this out more negative more at balance some and future? quarter, of in likely the to was So be positive

Andy Watts

yes. comment, fair a probably That's

Mark Hughes

you much. very Thank

Andy Watts

sir. Thank you,

Operator

UBS. with Bloomer Weston to on Moving

Weston Bloomer

morning. good Hi,

could M&A. help Maybe U.K. geopolitical prepared of things eurozone the you in 'XX and context the and that around guys I just specifics additional was or or conservatism that. hoping One remarks any the guidance on the any was potential exposures that growth. touched can't related indirect provide get have impact have and noticed context on could you the on to you maybe I that frame your into direct slowdown in in understand built on was March exposures? matters the you expand on into the but

Powell Brown

Right.

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Weston Bloomer

you've around broader M&A That's on In Great. guess, the follow-up helpful. is, of your across year. per portfolio. past, the My deals done XX-ish super I pace

for the multiple Just Is from you're M&A? curious what could be seeing same around recent expect lighter that here. deal. roughly we Just you're seeing given on type should it large-scale on size, level the curious XXXX? Or the pipeline potentially by of that

Powell Brown

Yes.

I the focused transactions. on wouldn't so get So of much number Weston,

-- cultural we if What not yield tell is you sell might on would I focus want. to the I that's generally And going I -- think know people different. fit. that outcome generally, we well, why when don't you and is

what I you average look at tell so or XX back can go revenue five on year And you, and year average would acquired. our

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you'll close about And we we them. so close it's ultimately those know and what when

Andy Watts

We Weston, is be maybe Andy. say I it's that definitive, you other out And we think we're adequate we the asking in this of to We prepared buy not and have capital Weston, market. we side have do market. businesses continue to are M&A out our of comments. the just can had might M&A good of year. the do -- question this really

able after to that organization be these the We we'll delever also transactions. anticipate

kind quarter just we of really just sale. with where line businesses because is And for they're do cultural not for up Question good -- we alignment. when are. that So feel the us consistent they're of the by

Weston Bloomer

I Great, really thank color. you. all the appreciate

Powell Brown

you, Thank Weston.

Operator

[Operator Jefferies. to Instructions] move now Yaron Kinar We'll with

Yaron Kinar

you. Good continuation this M&A Thank Maybe on morning. a front.

the it can M&A? as remain So when help you over elevated to outright are just purchasing opposed hires another at team a prefer us about business. and team hire about to if you how pros option think in valuations Maybe thinking this cons as point, of people a bring and you

Powell Brown

that we have people, would of Yaron, I at the would Well, find this to any time consider is be them. doesn't cycle. way good articulate think that, It I type we hiring

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Yaron Kinar

on of going the in Elyse's And different that's the helpful. totally beginning Q&A. question then Okay, to a topic, back

see the second you guidance What saying flat potentially yet, as or kind of of and are margins. It the year, of it half the margin in that a the seeing maintaining could that expansion the alleviating flattish could you're Is headwinds overall in that had growth? seeing second You the you're margin just year? slower of of offset first sounds were some margins the like bit you full year side half on little quarter. pressure you're the

Powell Brown

know I Have airplane you you on airplane you lately? flown lately? an flown Have on an have.

pay the ticket? how had that So point to for you is did you see much

Yaron Kinar

Yes.

Powell Brown

Okay.

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to amount that we've conversion, cash know it's we really use in it's that we I a important, to ability you I particularly But long this think talked cash it's company. So We convert the and -- think convert think our relative time. invest important, others for about do. our and

Yaron Kinar

so the Thanks it. comments. much Got for

Powell Brown

Yes. Thanks, Yaron.

Operator

to now Han We'll Derek KBW. move with

Derek Han

morning. Good Thanks.

it increase interest investment matter income. about much. talk would what have most? looks rates at just I expected And an didn't it the like looking but you change the that why Can Just that's I'm asking. all

Andy Watts

maybe Yes. for to Derek, think about two ways that. you here. Probably Andy

Let's talk about on income side. the interest

we you saw, generated quarter, income. interest $XXX,XXX net the As for about of probably

of earnings factors So of restricted rates go the probably on interest that in of movement a because interest fees, accounts have and income material will because bank into upside of there. there's not et the lot a net inside cetera, that

side then things, we'll in $X.X floating-rate about to look it. billion, you of have there. is I of range one of maybe the debt And billion the at when way $X.XX that's out debt park So think

as think we're you million, that to X% we We rates are and well there. will the get year. the $XX guidance in of in order on gave out it coming over happen to So increase floating optimize idea good what a of relates to interest as there. fixed can with positioned pretty on the we've that the kind probably thoughts And what our between every incorporated rates does there

Derek Han

year-over-year? only I just talk helpful. were actually down little but like were the programs wholesale that? was up. modestly It driving different looks on contingents And about question bit, contingents Can contingents. That a directions Why another really it. you the had Got just the what's

Andy Watts

Yes.

time. are explain Those volumes. and in profitability about talk those down and can programs because that up over the to reason more that move that, tied and can ones first thus to individual they're let's just and programs in So be on -- we've it's the seen nature. And volatile why

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So this stage. there unusual nothing real at

Derek Han

you the all Thank it. for answers. Got

Powell Brown

Thank you.

Operator

Hughes, Mark And we follow-up Truist. from have a

Mark Hughes

Yes, thank you. Any security on update the business? social advocacy

Powell Brown

continues changing processing don't is see it answer to don't I seems of the two, quarter there to all. would slow those the Mark. next at be meaning in yes, is be tell The What in or -- to And you term, continuing slowing be I down -- term the we claims. that or near near

and continues to things -- be near claims of like a but processed the way see term. there I pipe but backup the efficiently in to So as clear be to the don't to I say,

So we have Do else update on on Andy? you have a that, significant don't anything that.

Andy Watts

very ways, very, it is pleased inflow that and Mark. with Yes. of to calls. claims mentioned business of this Maybe some previous all the We're customers. volume coming One think about on our the with have into and two in relationships we we potential the us the

good. is inbound So

number ultimately of that's the the other they is important get employees has an Security thing Then the funnel of us to look it and as kind number Social the of the at that at there on that's have for question that with the So just by the end processed business. a Administration constraint how administration. the we that

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Mark Hughes

Yes. one think final directly I call but on don't P&C And cycle. this the then the you've addressed question. of this duration

you steady than as more You that Any some for durability near sounds term; described seen the steady, view your optimistic be influences the of the increases. outlook thoughts a the And what rates the on here may at your in little recently cycle, to duration of the past. it like, least largely of might cycle? have on these for that calls in steady be

Powell Brown

Okay.

clarify ranges me said you so let So we're just and what clear.

increases are a rates moderation we the said? in range there. majority from that you in X.X%, what all range I them make to next of to sudden, rate rates, range But X% the understand a the you them If are slight in X% then do X% and the of X% we okay? and being or we quarter, of sure Yes, the to want say majority So that's there's a the similar that anticipate do.

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Mark Hughes

Powell. Thanks, clarity. the appreciate I Yes.

Powell Brown

Thank you. All right.

have do have we think I one -- do we What more or question we Jake? more than have one that.

Operator

the couple a have in We queue.

We Phillips, have Michael question from Stanley. a Morgan

Michael Phillips

taking in. Hey, thanks me for

Just one for me, guys.

without is XX% cards obviously. Specifically could been -- for think us in give clear quarter. that this in years just help rest we of pretty replicating compare kind of numbers, two on program, trying the year to did play as out of not national the the about of you've of the remind prior the X% year to to the you But XX% specific just the organic can -- you that to us rest things how the

Powell Brown

All right.

Programs of National buckets. Think a couple Powell. it's Michael, about So as

One like. quake, of catastrophic let's wind, those the say, buckets exposure, is,

availability So your the capacity. to in market grow going dictated ability is to be that by of

new existing market, you have but book potentially not you moves if write slight another will to some And growth. moderates business. don't So if increases you then that on that will your get new capacity, your of

to said want of I one. So is on our Two, in component dependent Programs loan National Andy business. think about tracking earlier what about a you capacity, is what think

sold in just going know You business We the that are like you be portfolios several don't a were when know being to quarter. are we sold, purchased. portfolios when have portfolios the didn't where a have

a the was bought can bit of the a big National If clients just bunch think both slight third okay? to we re-rating. one It or is a a quarter, Flood It's went negative X.X. then Programs quarter, Then that of little go quarter. have I second in a uptick. a So our ways. portfolios of about could of part want you through flood, this -- our

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So zone, consciously some that nothing in flood has and the living changed a insurance your event buy significantly, up flood not people might, in goes decide to might, flood.

that the to Now I but sounds is know answer hard they believe might.

would So casualty-driven. are, the Programs our let's rest be of those National that say,

and write the have program, liability dentists and we professional on dentists. as we around dental that's an a So the example administrators country through

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are them and we money. our make behalf have on carrier partners to So underwriting of remember, we

have they rest depending year So year; the the outlined, just whichever that bucket how cons -- on going I it. I that's into you the referring and each describe to different pros are of

Michael Phillips

appreciate time. I Okay. That’s helpful. Thank your Powell. you, very

Powell Brown

will Have question, a This day. be Yes. last Jake. nice our

Operator

for from We final one follow-up a in hear Fargo. from the Wells We'll have Elyse queue. question Greenspan

Elyse Greenspan

when any just you. financials. announced seems everything us right, assuming guys will can the us in place high deal's now? Andy, you low a you and question, else when that expense give the guys The update a of modestly higher. gave and my the on I'm kind of deal, -- kind stays interest that GRP you update but Thank on case closed you

Andy Watts

Not at stage. this

so which, yet. third what information. do think we -- can as don't we'll again, updates deal GRP own both for spot Once far during BdB get have we more we businesses quarter, we since we're the closed on, well anticipating Again, the as the Elyse. is only I then you're applicable sometime just for get projections in once

accordingly. probably but adjust within it rate, we'll the So a is And the interest up that little overall gave. still bit we ranges

Elyse Greenspan

know Will segment? after And in I the then them backed I corporate -- Or will the they costs, -- in shift were think corporate the they but they quarter. closed? even will integration deal I you when remain for Retail they know the adjusted out within margin this continue of to

Andy Watts

Yes.

divisions. If in back the the deck, a the look that of breaks we've schedule there earnings got you actually in them of by down each

schedule right to out in forward, have be clearly. places So and they corporate. going but in we able the will may different that nice you And be break other than or costs did for more

Elyse Greenspan

the Okay, great. for Thanks color.

Andy Watts

Yes, thank you.

Powell Brown

it. Thank teammates. performance profile about good all much. all of know we're would M&A performance of look business, the I and outlook most in in our excited forward pleased and That QX. another want on importantly, QX the very with our We're business, you to be very that the to very you margin let opportunities the the

over teammates under close the when XX,XXX to said, GRP the deals. I just have XX,XXX BdB just going we we and As today

the talking So forward to end of at to we you quarter. look next

you and time. thank for have a nice all You your day

Operator

your today. may And does now with you do you We conclude thank disconnect. this for participation for that, your and conference and ladies gentlemen,

Brown & Brown (BRO) 26 Apr 222022 Q1 Earnings call transcript