CLH - Earnings call transcript Q4 2017

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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Clean Harbors Fourth Quarter 2017 Conference Call.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Michael McDonald, General Counsel for Clean Harbors. Thank you, Mr. McDonald, you may begin.

Michael Robert McDonald

good and Rob, you, morning everyone. Thank call Executive Officer, today's with me Chief and President Chairman, Alan are On S. McKim; EVP of Buckley. SVP Battles; and and Chief Financial Investor Officer, Relations, Mike our Jim we posted our are along. call today's to follow for website Slides and invite you on today of Matters meaning historical facts within Private XXXX. Securities Litigation are are we that not forward-looking considered are statements of discussing the the Reform Act XXXX. which place reflect not are to undue today, reliance February these of cautioned XX, opinions management's statements, only as Participants on factors that our risks our results potential affect on in Information included of and SEC actual could operations is filings. this obligation The through period. company than in undertakes release revise no statements morning's revision this to the any filings results to made reporting the the concerning of that other publicly will call, or made be

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Alan S. McKim

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lower particularly helping exclude of XXXX is October. job the If based results, It new in really business, the increase the in Landfill great has utilization of Do. number Services and achieved in was our XX% seasonally the sold in The with segment's repairs drive mix of growth. slightly to El margin in Dorado EBITDA XX% the quarter. in the which that speaks from That waste you mid-XXXX additional unplanned volumes. shutdown organic team capturing we adjusted Incineration profitability. tonnage on at segment this associated the cost our network to XX% waste strong light up in quarter, of the incinerator an El Transformer significant in was the was the of at done some

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operations. pressures customers Hurricane Adjusted a based mix, business not our pricing lingering one-time declined year resumed have Maria, and margins Puerto impacted However, and Rico ago the own costs. have operations customer by EBITDA to from on of be many continued and effects some

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in a parts Adjusted ago. in increased the a ago, quarter and re-refining XX% XXX,XXX for to from base segment reductions spread For Care and the particularly national Customer our to example, pricing, with services the blended our in Center. associated due year the washer increased EBITDA from increases year management business cost oil XXX,XXX

market sales we And X% on about offering, that compelling ago. which loop quarter flat opportunities a demonstrating this closed a is oil In sales direct strong Blended In direct customers. gallons year our our mix lube offering. the terms first XX% sold versus total interest see basis. Safety-Kleen, the lube of year volumes our sold continue a introducing pipeline total is we essentially of to for sequential for customers, the for since and X.X in the our of of QX, to to accounted amongst a million sales of accounted XX% in

marketplace our targeting of XXXX, our direct metropolitan markets, Angeles, has very QX, bulk receptive Los and offering high expectations sales to we least the gallons our have launched we're sales. California blitzes the For been recycled at of which doubling including in for offering. lubricant total In we in three aspects

rigs revenue from drive on XX% included ago X, million $X year to engagements. market Turning The an and in conditions Lodging EBITDA. a Services adjusted improvement increased slide average to year-over-year number larger Gas in improved Oil, XX segment increase and and XX a helped of serviced average

we segment. this the small consecutive remain businesses line these improved third to a in was our the While that quarter bottom contributor performance, and top the relatively this

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corporate XXXX strategy bonus concerted slide is more a increases to initiatives, healthcare million in X did $XX last to our match XXX(k) compensation, in between of retention we in in than make to the the driver estimate benefits and XXXX, year. our well over reinvest wages, we will effort that invest We average reinstatement greater program, workforce. our Turning higher programs and

the increases. a array In reductions addition help to have the cost broad in of initiatives tax rate, of annual savings from to offset we long-term savings these U.S. corporate underway our some

incineration pricing critical of our priority term, our organization, our team our tight us company, service over for and talented XXXX. our drivers. top of are to to plan backbone form the and gains. given Profitable the In labor employees drive the a for growth investments current network, and of market particularly these improve As succeed long availability is mix we

For the target closed to is loop, volumes more XXXX. achieved than double our the in

some more see revenue that slide pricing process importantly, have our synergies allocation over begun industrial Veolia long And execute and we cost but We savings, intend and already more XX. we is capital on outlined the for strategy the term. to plan to lastly, integration capture stable

million time, that also opportunities or We same us we'll management We'll Our growth, considerable board non-core closely divest smaller aligned the capital provides drive $XXX flexibility support will At for look seek team to our on return late acquisitions and Veolia. which growth. and invest expanded our to maximize in to deploying in in to capital accelerate including businesses. that our program to evaluate shareholders. to regard. We'll buyback continue value our or assets remain XXXX,

Our our debt repurchasing assess also is X XXXX as target structure and to XXXX, In current million penalties later will strategy we shares this notes. XXXX expire this both prepayment year. our senior on year

of dynamics XXXX Mike, mix, turning industrial positive year. capitalizing with it with flow very performance seeing in positive our favorable we're and outlook. volume Overall, Before within Plus the me our increasing on excited trends a production businesses the seeing our The our We're a hazardous through initiatives. for our interest on the better and began about pricing, brand We our remain across growing in more and margins adjusted growth momentum our XXXX. project improving enhancing free waste marketplace. We're EBITDA large key to over cash anticipate strong stabilization adjusted opportunities business focusing increases. underlying prospects Performance in current pipeline, and revenue in we efficiencies, energy and let close a our as

it turn over me Battles. let that, with Mike So to

Michael L. Battles

Thank you, morning Alan, and everyone. good

benefited segments, driven our a all topline from volumes. strong XX statement, Tech by of $XX off revenue and with Services, we year a Turning increase by to led from income which QX, growth in strong four of slide capped million contributions

as on the severance up points, year. especially With on year facility of compensation. higher revenue primarily XXX expenses Full our our were margin approximately now above as quarters, margin SG&A incentive full disposal comp. volumes basis, On we in goal than pricing full offset incentive the Stronger by grew higher generated in percentage a El this volumes XX% offset in the up two improvement on a toward margin was our XXX largely based more shifting re-refinery pricing, gross For million was XX lower points, past Do is $XXX X%. network. are year, point quarter. and lower XX up we business, basis basis points costs waste margin improvements achieving year-over-year basis for or focused basis integration from XXXX, gross utilization the costs basis for year and and the online SG&A mix

of percentage the a and recent expect lower slightly a be divestures CapEx. as revenue quarter El and Dorado XXXX, full addition the we flat up XXXX. was on Depreciation the amortization as offset with year fourth flat acquisitions of of XXXX, to benefits with of SG&A For and basis, and essentially

year. full which quarter, for and X% revenue XXXX. full gross reflecting amortization operations range the estimate XX% and increased from million, increased For the $XXX in of XXXX, for Income expect to $XXX an assets. includes of the the level year Veolia EBITDA quarter margins we million depreciation higher and in Adjusted for the

bottom under at the at Adjusted in of new GAAP EPS These for in revaluation $X.XX rate the for tax for impacted quarter recent in by XXXX. loss liabilities versus the Adjusted Looking line, net QX per corporate of $X.XX EPS full per the tax share. XX%. was changes, our and were came was the tax share year. $X.XX $X.XX including results $X.XX law XXXX deferred

plenty balance cash the year and to up from dip the lower securities in four short-term we days, marketable Veolia on in up quarter, The to over with prior the sheet execute Turning to slide QX, for we will strategy. our dry million, cash is first XXXX. our but XX, likely DSO ended cause powder came balance prior than still $XX $XXX.X transaction year-end million years. in which of allocation but the capital the have time from XX at of

team lowering We longer continue for projects. push remain terms, even job clients especially payment large good on in DSO that as number has a in done XXXX. to Our focused reducing on

slide the Turning at strategic cash which forecasted on highlights million, net was was focus low of $XXX million, year XX, flow disposals a prudent a to full led $XXX while The of which total our end to maintaining million. capital CapEx of spend range our of $XXX.X our on $XX.X team investments. QX to million is with

includes which net XXXX CapEx we are $XXX for and targeting additional more million $XX.X to $XXX million XXXX, disposals CapEx than of For for expansion landfill cell million, of Veolia.

year, For cash million free full the more from than flow to in XXXX. doubled $XX.X we adjusted our $XXX.X million

flow cash $XXX free of adjusted activities net flow million million from the $XXX on This cash operating to based is to in range generating anticipate we range of $XXX XXXX, million. the in $XXX million. For

we've QX, million repurchased $XX.X stock. of During

shares. $XX year, For the full repurchased XXX,XXX we've approximately or million

XXXX, mentioned, factors repurchases a Alan As that at with a we currently targeting or up down. variety but is that consistent move are subject that to could number of level

the transaction, Veolia an XXXX the At million $XXX our from to and Moving of on based that X% adjusted current the represents to guidance market increase in of conditions expect to million. XX, EBITDA XXXX. we on XXXX results, midpoint, slide range $XXX generate

is results a goal being predictive to to positive Harbors Our year-after-year. that return company Clean generates

XXXX the ramp business we slightly and to weighted from at percentage growth towards Looking loop of the be expect guidance end our due to back a the perspective, our of closed quarterly our the Veolia offering. year of

year-over-year, in addition, to XXX(k) expect EBITDA $X XXXX. incurring payers we is additional up to items some were are slightly as QX, at in In both higher QX costs impact for El our be adjusted Total and for flat down million. days unplanned Do plant our we costs with there about

translates into our XXXX how segment is guidance Here a perspective.

mix greater will increase, in will compared our business pricing, organic XXXX. with be Veolia projected majority of a a to reductions. and mid enhancements. a also We combination by and based expect growth account increase digit Services adjusted of increase should for higher segment The in legacy The combination pricing, growth and or XXXX. EBITDA on but cost Industrial of for EBITDA percentage addition margin XX% a that Tech contribute by segment a of This Field driven see is to single adjusted EBITDA Services

in For loop, blended organic and in the to XXXX, is the growth base generate pricing, Safety-Kleen core expected closed are increase digits. this and EBITDA SK Driving adjusted higher network. branch our high-single growth

in Gas of businesses Rental are pickup. expected our than still EBITDA XXXX. in Lodging more growth business But Lodging and rig XXXX, to For Surface in is adjusted small energy other Oil, and Services, counts the a is lagging small driving the Higher business our given base and Seismic profitability seeing double recovery. are

macroeconomic lower segment our teens in the We saving increase outweighing acquisitions XXXX, compensation benefits, and cost costs. ongoing and profitable higher programs expect a in costs XXX(k) with and the corporate that, low of environment for questions. our anticipate the EBITDA Alan in call severance business. Overall, Veolia including and negative of and favorable adjusted we initiatives up to open year XXXX please discussed based from in addition With growth the Rob, on the the the

Operator

Thank you.

your comes with Brian question Sachs. Please from with proceed the questions. first Goldman Lee Our of line

Hank Elder

and Hi, guys. This the Brian, thanks Hank is for taking Elder on for questions.

Alan S. McKim

Good morning.

Hank Elder

morning. Good

achieved? run on So acquisition, on kind can an will EBITDA the the give timeframe you that rate idea us of Veolia be for when

Alan S. McKim

Sure.

Michael L. Battles

we going Yeah. and time. publicly, to it's $XX take The million idea we million, said that's $XX feel to that

that's the of this we that of later Friday, to the so it. kind last team it of getting to Some consolidating systems running, happen and up into is getting of Thursday, company just assess year our continuing and sites, we're Frankly, next on going on kind our and year. kind network, bought

as There rate going the and we into But kind XXXX, going get stabilized. confident forth. rate. some are to systems have it's think some need run run consolidation we I'd that's by good into QX, I into of synergies get get time that processes. and so that and to we'll do, it I'm our I'm hopeful time and take we say, to But hit we're more, that to QX to

Hank Elder

a do Okay. – do perspective, Thanks. you guys upside where I in you then, That's guess that cost see acquisition? revenue versus helpful. more And from synergy

Alan S. McKim

their where lot Yeah, so of of which the I at every Veolia a work, sites business that represented had the on side, of nested see sites XX% benefits we would is probably they day they say of people that a revenue. with I think with customer XX%, lot the revenue planned one sites, have

Industrial customers business steady revenue to go turnaround much business, versus a is more and event-driven nice lot those site in where are with of we they that add could our on business. a more services So stream and a cross-sell

some to So nice we expand their with really base. see our opportunities relationship customer

Hank Elder

Great. Thank you, guys.

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Operator

your Our next Oppenheimer. questions. line from with the with Noah question Kaye of comes Please proceed

Noah Kaye

Good questions. the morning, Thanks everyone. taking for

broadly here. You single are growth, I topline so than don't for trajectory the can for just I that guide XXXX? growth mean, the about think of mid to to but digit margin topline kind about be should thinking higher a rate know you or how we understand

Michael L. Battles

is for the This Mike. thanks question. So, Noah,

said a a X%, perspective base had kind we I as a revenue, and some business year that's we acquisition, So, wins. of it's lot grew of from growth from but of kind or good earlier, of a

in remarks, goal, And drive and as to have growth versus so of profitable our more I volume. my were said kind margin

we And are that so, selective. the so – a do low rate, because macroeconomic growth there. out of low-to-mid are going I be single to think factors more that's single

difficult pinpoint of it's kind it's oil prices think that, based well. I as because to on

to we it's level, more tailwinds is out. idea going to So here that think base going but to increasing, at that it's it give and some be because not grow – certainly But good pricing certainly oil is hard profitable had growth. the I

Noah Kaye

trying working the to conversion, understand, just Thanks, – talk Mike. capital you are there then And cash flow free on and to DSOs efforts.

there some to would you puts just capital. midpoint this think like understand working improvement growth I X% we EBITDA we'd as tax reform flow in the get there? year? about and to off at the from of takes thought think Are benefit and maybe kind a of to of flattish have some you a cash how profile said Would free sort come continued

Michael L. Battles

Sure, Noah.

a that's very good So, question.

feel want you to Alan, start, if free, jump in. I'll So, and

net assets, in be the expansion, that and that's ended lease free right? Veolia said our million, which so to some $XXX with a of to guy we another million of year So, we buyouts would a $XX CapEx, kind going bad we CapEx, cash so – that's cell flow. that's some that's of CapEx of And about said we're midpoint the million $XXX and in be of

a million, million million a obviously have we into is as this cash take which that translate $XX more that's also bonus midpoint of of didn't of last thing. $XX But downward pressure kind that's more, $XXX so have flow, we the then so would really year, payments good you If year. guidance our

we're going so, here our organization. a to payment $XX about have million And so through March in

so going free put pressure that's year. flows And to the cash some for on

so in had are be working capital that better guy, will positive had a XXXX as also good which lower payments $X look good we XXXX, at a that's also hopeful million interest we we -as we And would We a have number. guy. about

on and So, to that cell need some do like are flat a is reasonable look, feel but we that the a not based make fact given we the in great of is answer, fact answer investments where get balanced we we expansion. kind some

going year this some are better We some working to bonuses pay capital in XXXX. get we're and we'll hopeful

Noah Kaye

cash Good. That's how kind helpful. about Because rate? to correct, do, my more math I tax tax GAAP cash rate to And if of how then from I if still implies effective, about XX% a think which the just the maybe hopefully think tax the one me, rate? we about think but do right, that's

Michael L. Battles

Yeah.

point, cash online, that's new we no, from So, brought $X $X an the taxes. which We got because XXXX, glad law, that of we range. is a XX% interesting it had old the depreciation paid still – didn't federal incinerator the a in we in up coming million pay under we lot tax you bonus million, standpoint, or tax got

lot $XX obviously our be longer a income a it's Over XXXX. federal flows. guy, XXXX. or pay or cash income We federal taxes $XXX-million-plus, not a income and to taxes a And with as to XXXX to going to lot winner a that's tax be probably a we – we good bad XX% sure the pre-tax of a help so, XX% in guy winner, the going so million I'm going in that's didn't at from not of pay in XXXX. U.S. speak, won't of a rate horizon, look

Noah Kaye

Thanks Okay, perfect. much. so

Michael L. Battles

Okay.

Operator

the next CJS Please Larry comes Our of proceed Securities. with from Solow question line your questions. with

Craig Bibb

Craig Hi. Larry. Bibb This in is for

and guidance end includes for discussion. to You've the maybe And the a looks growth. have touched a Veolia EBITDA in presentation this key year, year to bit limit XX% is full – little on to of so guys like it with that you the met just just summary going hurricanes bad organic free for X% at which cash of summarize, growth. think easy flow are an EBITDA with and the the I maybe guys good it the But compare

Michael L. Battles

Craig. Sure,

benefit at from from without now We're specific, we're people. we of the kind going some El of loop, some of closed getting the get and the certainly of right? online making mirror. spreads, So, going kind and too in day, from shakedown that, the the base investments to rearview benefit oil an the from business, some to as is But to Veolia end Do in offset get are

prepared remarks, we in incentives, there mentioned in are a some in Alan costs have driver making match, As Veolia. for some we XXX(k) investments and in

our we're And our dampen so, is midpoint some investment predictive to that XXXX, there is to positive I mention Craig, And of does goal results guidance. making which want drive in in also, kind of XXXX. the

trying be and of are reasonable So, kind we this into to balanced go guidance. XXXX first we as

hopeful beat kind and quarters of And we'll meet that all so, and be kind fine. we're of four

be we're obviously people our so, from XXXX go that's do hurricanes to the make as trying we more no recognize investments in thing. end moment, had – we to forecasted so view we good should a But and day, have in of into to some balanced we the the are at need we gaining need some in at And XXXX. benefit guidance

Craig Bibb

refinery and pretty planning double the next to then double obvious. of at business, huge to like And there is gets the double is What that ability business? that the year. or that the to appeal you're California to market you else you'd Okay. size a

Alan S. McKim

oil centers it's we've lube up across more the offering, bulk for to think about distribution million just to we're looking I as – gallons get network. XX opened

are that line business. to salespeople of number just focus a this of specialists on quite added have We

that wherewithal base up, think frankly. the now infrastructure the we capability customer have bulk the quite we opened and and we as have have and facilities as certainly the distribution I packaged blending and between deliver So, to well the that,

Craig Bibb

of will give the acquisition Okay. Lonestar us contribute much one, if how this And that you last an and update could year? on just then

Alan S. McKim

Lonestar over essentially We point, integrated business. is assets. daylighting sort have of into this XXX now our At

offering lot As a we particularly to that continue existing business. roll our to we to grow our customers, expect customers, out that of a of lot now sell to cross

We it of or guidance our implementation early out it, on in across it is haven't its network necessarily broken certainly but any stages given here.

Craig Bibb

much. Okay, great. very you Thank

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Operator

line Bobby question Burleson proceed next with of questions. Please with the Canaccord. from your comes Our

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Michael L. Battles

about John, for think question. integrated. of it, it's we Yeah, the kind again, thanks When

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Alan S. McKim

Sure.

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differentiate look So, non-haz that and competitors daylighting to kind companies from of market about to ourselves excavation in that their really not work. tailings business. to that are have more are Most worry that after therefore the in space of go we tend really to our of

so XX,XXX a with that organization. of so say transportation fact we to or fleet fleet would I – and trying that our integrate integrate also have the we in and our rolloff that that containers So, rolloff we're can large vehicles

our So in differentiation the that's been market. really

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Alan S. McKim

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Unknown Speaker

Great. Thank you much, very guys.

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Michael L. Battles

Sure, John.

Operator

Thank you.

proceed of with question David Manthey Robert the next Please from is with line Our your Baird. questions. W.

David J. Manthey

it the guys. I guidance XXXX for you talk know million business? your for EBITDA contribution morning. year. Good $XX assuming XXXX? $XXX-million-ish What assumptions in said revenues to Veolia you you're the about acquired in million EBITDA in was But just what $XX the and could Hi, Yeah. and revenue first are in full

Michael L. Battles

a I'll shot take that. Sure, is Dave, at Mike. this

in on That's think So Veolia for of it's we $XX based some to million about and an estimate done, EBITDA we've $XXX $X million XXXX. modeling million.

to integration on timing, that's that's a again, work based based I on think had we So, do, that's reasonable but some starting point.

Alan S. McKim

really And strong here. I start to think turnaround going our is off business

here, of equipment a those people work, and needs were that's and fill a labor lot we year, integration Industrial the a preparing obviously to they lot to demand were going getting we this that help bit have. help got think for we quite we've As so coming business really and our of business in

So about teaming we're excited with these pretty together now two firms.

David J. Manthey

business Okay. synergies coming at profitability? $XX existing how much full rate in that of $XX year base of million to that EBITDA, from versus When run you is million look just

Michael L. Battles

We we achieve don't think it's from to synergies do have kind some I synergies. costs. coming we David, ton want revenue a have some and of of do

As We Alan anticipate to the have the said like in opportunity do Midwest. feel in Midwest. in don't a his huge We there's presence consolidating prepared remarks, We Midwest. big lot they're there cross-selling. of don't offices in a

there. we to ton synergies to of so year. back the But there's the we answers, of some really haven't half in a that into think the these trying some, honestly, mostly put model And get

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

David J. Manthey

here three I And you a divesting within look cited a Clean that Okay. harder time don't rebound quarters non-core sort segment with of wouldn't in Harbors? for of good guess a a bit Thank the maybe Lodging take Oil, core business, to at be of that with now and businesses that. you improvement, the Gas fit

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

been – of selling certain have the businesses that we've looking of the off Catalyst parts and sold. shown non-core sold we at example, with and as the business, different our our business We business we Transformer for

to with would the Western see has oil Canadian end frankly, certainly of look whether something a certainly So, in specific say. we early is stages at, at it's the entire but look certainly Even or under recovery, market. quite Canada we business continue we assets discounting that hamper businesses. is and being really of do We tunnel crude pipelines light though permitted the trading crude the now continued construction. the at at $XX, to That's

think some that there. and some assets and we've discount think market at investments look back shrink get got will begin business. that to that we'll to and more made, people we We continue will and So, great come great will probably

David J. Manthey

Okay. Thank you.

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Operator

Rahbar Hi. Hamzah. with from - Macquarie. proceed question line next Kayvan This is Capital in Macquarie the with Hamzah Please Kayvon your Our questions. Mazari (USA), filling for Rahbar Inc. of is

us which can a you segments You you and little slide, what but slide aggressive? on want be your mentioned walk the pipeline, more more areas it like to looks or it acquisition XX, through on

Alan S. McKim

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see would for years. acquisitions bolt-on – is business. We company really I in part of as huge help opportunities And investments because which at it the Safety-Kleen that been think plants, our The And that that sort the much now Clean us. I well for that that so success customer to how thinking the profitable services it the really spot about business a certainly, there is five achieve look Harbors' thing owned of into we've potentially We've business to other core that does overall a field fifth the so a lot think going our beauty for in lines we of we've across can making inning business has business that Safety-Kleen. drives of to of in of well. continue We're bright had, leverage in and of that's certainly of the excited greater be. base. been drives the our we're scale lot and waste

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Alan S. McKim

capital certainly than in five that would difficult cost business. a of business locations on a four, been Pricing it very, to have has been years ago. very that been structure. the that. has we've mean, significantly I That's and adjust been in utilization lot been we've that really consolidated business also We've constraining Yeah. tried lower

business what's continue market, a to this business. think on is we current can that we we've frankly, improve So, with business at look and support Rahbar is, the markets see quite Thank - Capital to recover. Macquarie All that positive you. strategy a meet capital right-size we business right well both to and now way right. our the standpoints from (USA), continue as Inc. the Kayvon generated that that as as to we belief And EBITDA continuously we'll

Alan S. McKim

Yeah. Thanks.

Operator

line is questions. with the next proceed from Sean with Our & Please Company. Needham your question Hannan of

Sean K. F. Hannan

Yeah. taking my here. Thanks question for

here I'm some going some of trying to this And this back to sorry, bit been that morning. made the the I'm to just little understand have of come guidance a better. EBITDA comments and

have all there some It going into understand that we're attribute and can it's beyond, over, there's sure EBITDA to attributing that So sounds I'm magnitude I what our rough to above we number, tax sorry that had make folks, recent reinvestments of the change. a business like, correctly, missed out if calling dollars? the to here? that so I you're was What the we costing back just and want of I effectively Alan, here.

Michael L. Battles

Hey, Sean, this is Mike. I'll answer this.

So, this a in reinvestment of cost. And shouldering have a versus putting burden in bigger incentive Alan's programs million healthcare some that's year. bit That's We're then prepared driver adjustments. he $XX in people. up. XXX(k) place. match; costs healthcare year small incremental a mentioned salary remarks, costs we prior number, a was which of our That's We're going really

to million And decisions. of again, drivers, investment, our make add people $XX knowing to people all it's of kind hard in of that so like so peers get get types our we be those and need hard a together been those to to

Alan S. McKim

away last had match. that mean, I And a crude several of that wage went I under of time. to during a $XXX-plus really we period We years, downturn were barrel constrained things do the team XXX(k) a I the fact oil to our for think the took lot the $XX over from to increases. there weather mean,

away, back that need our asset these to to and key recognize things of we a some money, Sean. we cost bit are and we little So, that's took here reinstate that workforces us and go going the of

Sean K. F. Hannan

line it go that sounded or corporate this all I standpoint, would, from in the the the if of impact within looking of up particularly corporate correctly? adjustments, like commentary, much like terms for that we Because there, it really make understand vast segments. through adjustment that directional as investments the increase. kind most majority of a And Okay. look not I lesser segment the at of the would looks would Am at within

Michael L. Battles

Sean, this is Mike.

You're right savings businesses offset cost across with to our that. of are in in inflation businesses. those help fair There amount place a programs

items XX so XX is items of a worked And there consistently. list that we've or

that's some inflation should any that program, neutralize today, When corporate, some that think themselves. are savings, incentive and revenue drive cost initiatives, of in healthcare again of corporate. in kind driver all this cost XXX(k), are I corporate Some and segments increases, that's that's happening that's the within

in up yes, your that it's my the of So Alan kind primarily talk runs in that to teens, And that you through mentioned answer remarks, directionally tells we mid incremental it of and spend corporate said comment, I his question, prepared line. that.

Sean K. F. Hannan

Yeah.

Okay.

have And so Services. I then to then that question me a around Tech leads

this are only we going some digit into price if So increases think as growth, about we're thinking about EBITDA mid single that place. have I business, then

a just El sounds at we once going we're I of a once we a volume. to better seeing It for, we want bit connect the Do about think that's of of almost like here? aspects some have try volume We scenario increased for remove a dots Do. why that implying little performance bit kind have business flattish or bit within to stronger a of and to weren't little XXXX understand other Tech little Services El

Michael L. Battles

that's Yeah, a good Sean, observation.

So two say. things I'd

have we are of to shutdowns did think that we on we go positive results little all, puts QX. importantly, pressure a of I XXXX. that First here have trying unplanned more January some in kind But into as predictive

assuming And and that is day sunny not every nice. so are we

of reasonable that's be it. guidance And so and our in trying more part to we are

Sean K. F. Hannan

All much the Thanks questions, folks. for addressing Okay. very right.

Alan S. McKim

Sean. Okay,

Michael L. Battles

Thanks, Sean.

Operator

Michael Please question comes of with Stifel. the Hoffman Our next line with questions. from your proceed

Michael E. Hoffman

Mike, Hi. business And and I'm advance. all your in apologizing been I've in Jim. remarks. meetings missed Alan, prepared

seen questions going what in on based some I'm to numbers. I've So, ask the

Alan S. McKim

Okay.

Michael E. Hoffman

answered and through create of to of you've of puts take them a pieces to gave waterfall the already. your and if apologize presentation takes and you data $XXX I million the million? take that get those $XXX all But And can you

Michael L. Battles

Absolutely. Yeah.

look up in I breakout mid a single the and XXXX. growth that segments digit Tech of the different take at the be you mentioned where in kind we if from So you of landed XXXX, Services would

And think Do of growth base due are in so our kind in business. the rearview to challenges that's of the mirror. in El Many we

but to from some areas a in are place, bonuses XXXX see so struggle terrific And we that's Safety-Kleen, you of a so Daylighting that's in positive some and as XX%, business. growth costs healthcare but XXXX by putting of low-double And we double, of mid a kind the in offset really of in continue mid-teen and incremental and from price acquisitions, growth wages Kind small in of kind discount in people, business. number of investments in Industrial where, We of pretty up severance, more oil prices Oil, progress kind profitable a his corporate kind still digits bit So due driver business kind another off is some large. of XX%-plus, offsetting that in those single like in Lodging, whether digits $XXX continue is in Michael. whether do branch really again, to think million growth business million today Alan well, areas there base be spread to pricing When growth gets been seismic Safety-Kleen, incentives goodness here we said in as it's in that the the some little corporate. of that's in to to going said grows number, the that going that which in business that's and the due it'd is are back know, is XXX(k) impact, base increases loop, higher in right? some increases, we grows continued in we base XXXX, as Field rentals, trajectory oil Canadian on but the Gas oil in and surface are really, another crude think to you just some kind to XXXX, seismic, in really business for a primarily are really remarks, struggling some some $X million some well. million with $XX driven by which implies Veolia tear, which the And are of said some as oil is real story. absorbing, revenue still increases In has of – all acquisition we I the well to and base closed great making think XXXX. especially match, that's to that $XXX plus

are trying have predictive here we down it and to in that so, walks positive results XXXX. of kind And

good kind to good in in we going we about XXXX. – XXXX reasonable I pretty rates, but velocity of feel the that given exit this growth So – be that have think I of try these I into kind think number

XXXX, did As that transaction the business up XX% we Alan was mentioned remarks, Services in take if the in growth Transformer Tech his for revenue out you year-over-year.

and So again, higher our margins. improve I drive incremental to drive good network margin waste feel of kind our ability profitability and into streams about our

Michael E. Hoffman

Okay.

sort $XX $XX on that's million I Services, if what and think Safety-Kleen, upside $XX double If are, that's... million at from looking Field. Industrial digits those I'm to numbers Tech of So, million about from

Alan S. McKim

That and Gas. was Oil

Michael L. Battles

Yeah.

Alan S. McKim

Double-digit and was Gas. Oil

Michael E. Hoffman

$X low-double – Oh, But $X I or I'm XX% that's Gas. and million million. digits. low only think If Oil you said

offset, XX% million So the on $XX the the sort – figure well that's Safety-Kleen, that's $XX to over I'm out that's another $XX million... of so trying million,

Michael L. Battles

Yeah. I have misspoke may but have or for you Tech. said may single misheard, I mid

the at ended year we So, of EBITDA, million so. $XXX.X

Michael E. Hoffman

Okay.

Michael L. Battles

Right? XX%. It's single, not

Michael E. Hoffman

it. right. All Yeah. Got it. Got

there of okay, that's So million, $XX it. million, $XX million, $XX some is

Okay.

Oil $XX and of Safety-Kleen, offset there's or $XX million Gas, $X million million, $XX in an quirk. million $XX it's million $X $XX in range in of to it's and from million there, So, million, million IS&S, sort $XX million the $XX in

Michael L. Battles

Yeah, Yeah. directional. that's

Michael E. Hoffman

Okay.

And Okay. what bump That why not getting I'm answer the a helps. free too? was then flow cash

Michael L. Battles

question a and I'm So, when answer was to it asked you that but this think happy about again. earlier, was it,

million. $XXX from going are We

about some that's interest in get – that to increase expansion, leases. we're million, did also million more about some asked if million, cell so The million we that's of than Veolia some about a million, $XX XXXX less so and that's is of of $X that so $XX to So Michael, then in EBITDA. spend a $XX is question a going $XXX that the midpoint incremental guidance payment CapEx CapEx million million part $XX of was $XX.X you and And $X and buyout bonus out negative about our million, take in payments of of XXXX.

and had that's really you Do incremental because I'll of law that the depreciation bonus coming pay is a – And of tax frankly the we had kind federal law the and XXXX. taxes CapEx that it is of And so lot know question El didn't of asked in get we of that in tax benefit may the that again just income earlier tax XXXX. even incinerator One mentioned was front driving where it old in change. before, online under this We XX%.

taxes down in And a so the law paying income of cut in anticipate lot we with bonus of the XXXX the federal that XXX%, depreciation frankly taxes really And paid amount change with in don't either. tax to XXXX. we going

XX% good So it's do we income, not though, over term necessarily a is of long good see guy. job to income going U.S. XXXX. $XXX but a million $XX a federal million, good in million obviously guy $XX million a or guy a taxable going XX% bad because we guy to to with short the here Over to XXXX be long that's from decent a big did $XXX our term, XXXX over not taxes, just managing the pier term

Michael E. Hoffman

$XXX million And repeat I $XXX – that's cell timing matches that X% more is your a so to the swing had what underlying and the that's to rate, and that X% development, a don't back million, if of you Okay. development up performance normalized really does you resets of – driving get midpoint that. volume It up EBITDA. that's true on your cell

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Michael L. Battles

sense. makes that Yeah,

Michael E. Hoffman

true? into talking something Am I myself that is or

Michael L. Battles

sense. some make does that right, you're no, No,

Michael E. Hoffman

Okay.

you the and of to to going operations So, saying think talked Alan and go tell and me you're bear. do and it revisited fill about how Mike, driving tell what when it, was the we sales being you to process market sales instead you what's last can from then budgeting met,

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Michael E. Hoffman

us. that way the folks are has to guidance that about guidance, the its different talk way set had if the you're what us walked about what's through sales plants versus How thinking the this telling

Alan S. McKim

for I forecasting way it's our incentive our tried looked an here. do best process us. correlate both we we've and reconciliation pay amount for We alignment. align and intense at about process only together. budgeting And really compensation as that been say I closely, the ops Certainly, with sales There's those in two not really up us that doing sales-driven of to enormous particularly us been really people. we're here, to our effort prove opportunity would but come to sales to We've I have Yeah. can it It's and trying and a operations off going get better. that still establishing for there is an room spending that more an help think had. big process talking been and both think operations But from for we've time guidance P&L-driven and like both a

Michael E. Hoffman

they think change, thinks And reset where to practical? match have are in – where would so figured you we that that? need the say cultural to cost what do And plants that really you you out are that's a is that in sales

Alan S. McKim

nature. a of a like know, our you a or our costs plants are – you fixed lot in As very are re-refinery. cost lot It's an of very cost not incinerator even fixed back throttle

aligned. our capital the strategy that have margins trying do the You and out, side lined that sure to landfill have to with and growth our some the on to we the pricing and of But make trying our investments support think be business I more that that more we have to do are movement to on some service side. we're our of particularly project our going investments supporting, side those do, are equipment

to it, face trying let's XX% business – more business. the drive we're EBITDA to get trying So a to

business at. operate we of abide We environment The regulatory that we disappointed we risk by, profitability with take, that in are have operate that we are the totally permits the to that the level significant. this

to need as year go this through this been to exercise on the get that has improve aligned through margins gone organization will we we we over and until in improvement. margin the business. so see last mantra the really continue entire And here, And that the we've

Michael E. Hoffman

Thank That's you taking Okay. terrific. very questions. the for much

Michael L. Battles

Michael. you, Thank

Operator

line Silber questions. BMO with Markets. from The Capital Please next go question ahead of is your Jeff the with

Henry Sou Chien

Chien It's calling morning. for guys. Hey, Jeff. Good Henry

Alan S. McKim

Hey, Henry.

Henry Sou Chien

landfill how I to you provide and might if idea you're ex and was next the volumes volumes. give us the the the and business an expanding that incinerator you could showed Transformer about wondering and thinking business side. like to especially of demand where mentioned the some Services some for I coming just from? just the color of was to numbers overall you higher solid could context you on wanted to you some year growth shift sounds complements Technical in back waste was of the – margin the in pretty of see incremental some if It Thanks.

Alan S. McKim

business. nice think seeing we're economy growth bulk seeing I from growth, is certainly good, seeing some So, just in growth lot – the our doing a of we're we're drum

we're were streams But to in bringing past, that difficult as just introduce starting talked we high-price very built some the about were as plant that into online. handle plant to market. we've As startup, was and during waste back the that now material of Dorado some were lower were margin, we into using difficult sort challenged with less we the so we bulk bringing handle plant our that the that of that to El was – incinerator

our fit we so of outsource. plant. consolidating, of been particularly frankly some the to that's types we've in opportunities And quite capabilities of nice light and our Deer industry of of consolidating, of those nicely been looking some both the El seen many anticipate customers into have Dorado chemical Park streams And customers

So, year. that the XXXX. business mix We I has really improvement think our we – just in drums necessarily drum go business. growth very, but But to past general we're growth, been the anticipate our very some going in see continue volume velocity good here through to not general in in nice as

Henry Sou Chien

Got it.

you've Okay. past view is volumes. that turnarounds mean And how that the that that's this upcoming I a have you have important great to year? of hear. on plant driver And looking I Do know for in been mentioned

Alan S. McKim

than year turnaround I is and going a to XXXX for XXXX XXXX. certainly think stronger be

going we're the season. Yeah. some So, I think see to nice coming from volumes turnaround

Henry Sou Chien

it. Got

Great. a Okay. Thanks lot.

Alan S. McKim

Thank you.

Michael L. Battles

Thanks, Henry.

Operator

Raymond Brown the comes with questions. your question Please from proceed Next with Tyler James. line of

Patrick Tyler Brown

Hey, good guys. morning,

Michael L. Battles

Good morning.

Alan S. McKim

Hi, Tyler.

Patrick Tyler Brown

Hey.

to in reoccur look how I at that XXXX? at unusual or you that won't way characterize totality, the it? is shakedown El right presume in cost not So the those would Do

Alan S. McKim

that bringing sort we MACT disruption II a the to a unit volume that the you're like plant we system, air budgeted. needs complicated through think than handled to quite actually I we that more control you're standards, pollution whenever of going had meet We have see. that, complex frankly on have

Patrick Tyler Brown

Okay.

Alan S. McKim

the to a October. with like in and it's incurred some issues disruption that pleased get so plant what I with quarter. would backend further the like that plant finally right that to down in the though we bring it So, our that. so ton. they've online quite pretty an of bit XX,XXX for first there We plant feel give we're got them. still to really up not frankly, – with had did quite we and But we've technology took of that A team the We kudos plant to

Patrick Tyler Brown

Okay. That helps, because okay. –

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Alan S. McKim

Do record good day-after-day, be XXXX We three work to some it. I very of running said, mechanical of Do. like to El It's at No. continues we're where challenges mix at week-after-week of a now But El through the be. in we all saw and I that of some and to and, The want right forecasting with incinerators cases we're volumes think team side those not year plant. the some

XXX% any little anticipate as bit think we're that. not I I take a size going complexity, job. But really team plant we've good would any and So, that you the always of by to and has stretch, said – time, of and done it's would a

Patrick Tyler Brown

Okay.

Okay. Maybe switching...

Michael L. Battles

that weather for to is unusually point but everywhere, and did facility day Tyler, Park in is Texas saying in cold or so. shut some a Deer want other hate us that like ice was happens we I weather, that, one QX add our there conditions and because I for have down

us, day, And it especially that at means for Deer and Park. so is a a – lot

kind I we to of that's so answer, it but it the really – want poor for an really us some did happen, is it weather really but El it we is think for us or an another two. did And blame and important did was put network really time and out important is and it a – have – day Do, again a

Patrick Tyler Brown

Okay.

switching a little maybe helpful. gears And then That's bit. Okay.

lot rising it, a So, Alan, you there's talk about transportation hinted at of costs.

Alan S. McKim

Yes.

Patrick Tyler Brown

you of issues? curious, transportation, just I'm on inflation some much spend how much you rail third-party how there, service the do expecting given particularly are

Alan S. McKim

another over $XXX million and rail. spend We in million $XX third-party in

address more lot not as of certainly go real implementation only our fuel The further price drivers electronic and on of through the increasing are can recognize also strategy surcharge, rail, been has now. think because that caused to for And so a we more availability of back costs well. to there are the a is the costs logs Part efficiently right those a want customers certainly spend our that has industry a But all but is think and big shortage increasing. problem we I wages move increase of issue. drivers, I it fact and

Patrick Tyler Brown

how Do you have drivers you do have? many Right. any idea

Alan S. McKim

We have drivers right CDL X,XXX over now.

Patrick Tyler Brown

Wow.

Okay.

Alan S. McKim

And to couple we're looking hire a hundred more.

it's service organization part and the terrific drivers through we our important operators. of a So of offer equipment customers

Patrick Tyler Brown

Right.

Okay, to flow maybe a I look of year-to-year, yet at so that's Mike, to free come very back instead want it at top-to-bottom. again, helpful. to cash And I then lastly, looking want

cash versus the $XX it like guide if more to cash do think that million at $XXX and So I'm capital midpoint, else free I about getting when in I how cash million. know, a sounds $XX in something EBITDA maybe you assuming Are working net $XXX start there So then is million million like bottom? for interest, the or CapEx. number you top free of call maybe, in I we out million down some million there it bridge there, for at don't to less $XXX it cash? take I $XXX bridge the taxes at should

Michael L. Battles

Yeah.

good we to year. is, million one environmental about you're $XX $XX thing the So, And a spend I million every question. Tyler, think that's in spend missing

Patrick Tyler Brown

Yeah. Okay.

Okay.

Michael L. Battles

keep obligations of Kind our current set.

Patrick Tyler Brown

Right.

Okay.

bridge Okay. helps me Yeah. That some of that.

you, Thank cool. guys. Okay,

Operator

Needham of with Company. & next from with line question. proceed comes your Our question Please Sean Hannan the

Sean K. F. Hannan

a Yeah, around hi. Thanks for for Wanted the follow follow-up, pain to to. Field here, up Services. some folks, not and I'm commentary being Industrial if sorry I'm intending and

I we this if So, attribute think for to can guide about EBITDA all increase, the I dollar year, I pretty the Veolia. mean, much I mean think

to I indeed segment close trying a turnaround that turnarounds. the otherwise, there's comments, should some it I'm kind if in much data year. hear when to gap out empirically terms it of better say you be from that expecting to out. a make year So, we there for been doesn't And when an Alan, think flat sense of I just the at certainly better acquisition suggest the performance pull looking otherwise Thanks. to me we're But in seem

Alan S. McKim

on can really we being here that. I we more performance We opportunities that margin recognize Street Industrial know want are of improve think to We and important the our There and we a in predictable conservative to there. improve have in business. But Field. we're that offer number the We here to that are really beat. focused is initiatives that guidance to

looking to we are and Our in that's from been discounting all up Both our industry. ourselves see customers of have to back our oil going that. think us crisis the the that in opportunities I was competitors beat the now that customers for because and of business improve relief and done, because

Sean K. F. Hannan

meaningful that you have back now, call, addressing so Because this it, Okay. a I of well in course conservatism. been where, some some Tech what Services, of my and and we've it when guys Industrial where admitted as has there segments questions fair like got and pretty through as forth Field the here, step of sounds amount

very thoughtful guys trying not are for versus to up guide. perhaps You to the be be fail a set

that seems to of in amount per XXXX would it that se upside So model almost a decent reasonable be here or the realistic. there's

that numbers putting with is to everybody year? it have this necessarily very to realistic that type but the an want don't actually You away range, interpretation fair walk of that above is opportunity guidance

Michael L. Battles

Sean, company, we're and That's last And EBITDA on X%. at of an the growing would we're XXXX, year. had I say we've good our top to, industrial in guess for I pretty midpoint but challenges good guidance, that going our at X% observation. of

can that is we so And think say it's I think don't reasonable. so, conservative. I this

bad balanced. that. they and did I assume that handle for to and Bad didn't can we and happen think things have happen, XXXX. that, trying I in are a and have things it's XXXX happened ready weren't could mean, we model that we

it's And – trying handle facility. reasonable. trying model I it's that a number. a And the I baseline bad a I can want to think a that bad at to you a you that that think – so think be right. problem Sean. be weather, into right, hopeful bake we're We're incident, that to don't for love look, it conservative, I to I'm I'd build

Let's do that and results. increase try to more predictable

Sean K. F. Hannan

All all Fair Thanks enough. addressing questions, for these right. folks.

Alan S. McKim

Okay.

Operator

Moyes line (XX:XX:XX) from Daniel Wells Fargo. proceed the of question. Our Please is with your with next question

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Alan S. McKim

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Michael L. Battles

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Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Michael L. Battles

some kind of a very shutdown created or day for and the cold two. Again, created ice it's conditions

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker

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Alan S. McKim

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Unknown Speaker

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Alan S. McKim

Okay.

Operator

Thank you.

proceed from line Our today questions. is your of Please final question Michael with with the Stifel. Hoffman

Michael E. Hoffman

asset flat of or spending anything anything, less our thank have on year-over-year? flows, you a cash is cash for free follow-up. XXXX the Is tax of flow the XXXX in midpoint you sale. from In benefit there capital there or that ops gain assumed the else Yeah, is

Michael L. Battles

assumptions No, in no Michael, XXXX assumed number. the other

Michael E. Hoffman

of turnarounds work. to And the of reconcile I'm Veolia that that flat. most because you turnaround are related to that of in RMO today, question be year? and services trying you the backed refining playing are scheduled How it's that out going largest then, up. to is world think Alan, the supposedly with first provider said And half is the refining IS&S that out,

Alan S. McKim

Yeah.

be I very think to going strong. it's

turnaround going think to I that – because and our a there there as well. of strong labor a to trying out certainly it's season. be a operators there address are as And that is we're competitors and of shortage is

Michael E. Hoffman

Okay.

Alan S. McKim

the as we spend well. built I see downturn. think up to seen demand not that customers have turnaround wanting more And been this of of through money evidence just expect some while we they were work, there's even to of going a But year event-driven as but

Michael E. Hoffman

Thanks. right. All Okay.

Alan S. McKim

Okay.

Operator

will the back I floor Thank to you. now remarks. final turn management for

Alan S. McKim

joining the forward thanks, and everyone, much Investor-related many so coming look certainly today. to for you Thanks at here. us We Rob. of seeing events Okay, in months

us having today. you appreciate we So,

Operator

This concludes today's conference.

your at your disconnect may you time. Thank participation. You for lines this

Michael Robert McDonald	Clean Harbors, Inc.
Alan S. McKim	Clean Harbors, Inc.
Michael L. Battles	Clean Harbors, Inc.
Hank Elder	Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC
Noah Kaye	Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.
Craig Bibb	CJS Securities, Inc.
David J. Manthey	Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.
Kayvon Rahbar	Macquarie Capital (NYSE:USA), Inc.
Sean K. F. Hannan	Needham & Company
Michael E. Hoffman	Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.
Henry Sou Chien	BMO Capital Markets (United States)
Patrick Tyler Brown	Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Clean Harbors (CLH) 28 Feb 182017 Q4 Earnings call transcript