Waste Management (WM) 26 Jul 232023 Q2 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Ed Egl	Senior Director, IR
Jim Fish	President and CEO
John Morris	EVP and COO
Devina Rankin	EVP and CFO
Tara Hemmer	SVP and Chief Sustainability Officer
Tyler Brown	Raymond James
Toni Kaplan	Morgan Stanley
Bryan Burgmeier	Citi
Michael Hoffman	Stifel
Noah Kaye	Oppenheimer
Sean Eastman	KeyBanc
Jerry Revich	Goldman Sachs
Hans Hoffman	Jefferies
Tobey Sommer	Truist
Stephanie Yee	JPMorgan
James Schumm	TD Cowen
Kevin Chiang	CIBC

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Operator

Good day. And thank you for standing by. Welcome to the WM Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Instructions]. [Operator that being advised, conference today’s be recorded. is Please

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Ed Egl

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Jim Fish

us. Thanks, Ed and joining thank for all you

through an advance priorities, increasing Our business optimized our price discipline, team our structure. continues XXXX and cost including to strong profitability of the

will up a As in pricing the I can XXXX, to control. said February and cost for be set continuing of delivering on ourselves what It's we by year long-term of year control.

collection SG&A In pricing driven the prices. We that some diligent renewable EBITDA expected we and things XX can't the than control. adjusted basis points, and margin disposal second and this stubborn by deliver slower cost energy event-driven business lower cost quarter, inflation, expanded volumes, our operating and despite control, result,

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automating recycling. efficiency processing expecting us in We're enhanced as environment facilities drive The material now and to lower recovery we're quality. commodity a prices making position the outlook. commodity investments any market second in labor well costs, cost, Turning improved slower-than-planned in recycled half recycling they in our

In XX% cost delivered network labor with fully the total results the ton the second cost of recycling ton. automated facilities our operating rest and lower per quarter, lower XX% differentiated relative per to

we're economic as also shift completed quarter, Greater high-return Recycling WM a and intentional facility have at profitable prior upgrades environment, a recycle area, above with our new now our margins in the pleased the technology a strong opened make Arizona. Toronto and is lows. to demand technology a existing our as in During automation well commodity to any service business an customer for business fee-for-service with cycle and model it well in investments facility

opened demand the Arkansas the its RNG or facility strong which standard WM-owned renewable quarter, natural of for market Eco On projects XX in the our visibility Last sustainability sixth provides credits, planned the announced the fuel rule, program. our growth and we month, and renewable the front, our Vista three-year during energy fuel to renewable second RINs. in gas facility renewable EPA standard

strategy MMBtu blended to pricing case the of This used upside. $XX for our potential average robust for provides our assumption demand investment develop support and strengthens per

year. results operating EBITDA in slower to second consider expect to Shifting half half in commodity guidance key the growth of We're adjusted an updating X.X% the will range, midpoint We walk of detail. is through outlook. of X% the XXXX. X% in to which our of further of growth the to May full still our prices guidance range well provided the now the year a within that recovery in pieces we outlook long-term XXXX our and ranges first Devina

of to reduce thank and in WM our step investments dedication. hard the The for to team same the work challenges while our further cost industry-leading asset structure. their at network day, progressing our and positions time, business want that each members I to differentiate team capabilities continues and us to our of each up

turn for operational the the quarter. to call now our I'll discuss results to over John

John Morris

good Thanks, a Pricing morning. quarter improve in recover our Jim, bright revenue to cost programs spot to and on remained continue margins. execute the we increases and second management as

growth the disposal by growth quarter second collection collection led yield business X%. was in price Our was of core This X.X% revenue and with disposal X.X%. and of organic

our of post-collection last improvements the landfill have continue stations We emphasize pricing, delivered X.X% QX, X% in both for transfer the and year. growth to at of rates importance in we MSW, and a and yield from

to led collection full quarter Our X.X%. churn yield more churn increase year into to yield, collective focus for to has lifetime core to us to allowed improving continues outlook team's This driving on value. That maximizing lower customer price and convert to our be second focus X.X%. more disposal than

at volumes. Looking

volume Second quarter collection grew disposal by X.X%. and

volume X%. an weighted landfill volumes line the business declines expected, was increase stood almost out the in modest of with with of collection As to growth business. MSW

we expectations have particularly our event-driven the mentioned, strong been saw some levels in below below waste tons special and volumes, XXXX. of Jim tracking our very landfill As

returns steps new due volumes take Our from of were in as continue collection as to roll-off. we Net the net business intentional the lower every impact price quarter well business, were modestly temporary in to collection that positive conditions levels, growth. increases we achieve to first demonstrating each contract EBITDA volumes and down the service Though acceptable revenue from of firmly and commercial XXXX underscoring are down, line remain quarter grew both improved that prioritizing solid. volume operating are profitable volumes and to

we disposal be For our to volumes year, full the collection expect of continue and midpoint flat guidance. to at

made second leading improvement efforts our in a to XX partially realized offset by benefits to Turning QX in being higher XX.X%. due are expenses percentage the The expenses. of to operating quarter, to of basis in operating that cost We improvements inflation. revenue as from optimization points we

cause experienced we categories. pressure costs continued QX, year. we the into levels labor both have to settling the for the of range inflation seen of The these double-digit impact maintenance over areas costs. There's second last quarter as during in optimism repair from continued progressed. quarter, have While Labor in the mid-single-digit the some and the experienced moderate of signs costs most and are lingering easing that

This better improvement as points evidenced turnover XXX improving to be over driver and employee openings to retention same attributed basis driver can period by the XX% compared fewer XXXX. in

cost optimize business, further We line have to strategies the expect diminish place as collection year to pressures our labor robust progresses. efficiency, in these which particularly in we of

move the remainder We are month quarter, with second we promising as sign of marking serve we seeing cost efforts as these progress quarter. lowest through the the This is a to year. June the the through of the of benefits

full still our last The operating impacting of maintenance factor over of allotment effects repair the trucks being receiving felt. As not has noted, significant are years and another a cost expenses. been few

rest we the the more However, labor or we we beginning our through unit Since stable have of remained collection across is performance our comprehensive in improved year, the cost approach good of in our continued to as costs, maintenance either now the costs. place all and trucks and maintenance of have it's news improved lines leading business. repair are to progress receiving per Similar to plans XXXX. drive to improvement

percentage to us these improve as revenue of broader as can well we operating through we give a in categories confidence efforts key XXXX. two as Our expense as areas continue costs overall progress operating that

the want thank all results to to through I and continuing I the and beyond. provide to deliver know reliable safe service our working team this hard for customers. entire to year they're strong of remainder WM

call discuss turn and and to detail. the to With financial I'll guidance that, further results over Devina our

Devina Rankin

good morning. and John, Thanks,

two The best our the framed the is first outlook primary revised as year half themes. and full story XXXX for with of

well strength. One are of of we our from to that and grow position other pressure ensure factors top beyond priorities from a our to executing profitably the we on working navigate of control business, market our

efforts Our strong outcomes quarter. two delivered in team's particularly the second diligent

operating price from basis quarter. growth our of $XX into and as and history. X.X% by best percentage or SG&A an is revenue revenue of the optimization result focus collection in translated in this on EBITDA to the XX million costs company's a second, X.X%, points improved disposal in First, our increase and And cost

Customer model our investing strong, from confidence our permanently to with we customer in that to and experience automation cost Our spending value satisfaction investments reduce channel here. service seeing customers in off. only that of a feedback with been leverages We're drive improved communicate discretionary managing to continue paying and reduced in structure, has from will cost technology our bolster to is customer giving us will we've strong lifetime these of customer outcomes SG&A investment choice. their commitment that

margin EBITDA focus collection our points EBITDA Operating operating optimization Organic disposal expansion improved and XX overall. basis on delivered and business XX the growth in in of points SG&A basis the margin quarter.

So the in to all you back results. two of these these to gives is almost grow delivered that us strong year the This half our margin of confidence can in things continue see into and XXXX. what ability

Year-to-date, cash was flow operations $X.X about billion. from

the higher the in cash growth EBITDA more interest, payments first expected, year. half As and than benefit of operating incentive the taxes compensation offset of

see half We XXXX. those expect in impacts the of second lessen to

Capital normal related to almost spending to sustainability in first of business year with our the $X.X the totaled on million $XXX projects. million of support months course [ph billion, spending X:XX:XX] capital and six growth $XXX

pleased new online this progress on Jim program the far our As with continued three mentioned, so growth sustainability we're year. coming projects with

sustainability million for and of energy $XXX However, delays capital certain renewable into growth and customary recycling future XXXX years. about permitting will projects our planned construction push

little $X.XX course we million, Dividends through a million free of to total year. million shareholders flow year repurchase this was the flow first and cash billion investments stock. before of we've shares billion. growth our $X.X was of through to $XXX over Year-to-date, repurchased of and half dividends, Free more the returned year about $XXX our will billion than sustainability cash the we've $XXX and expect $X.XXX the

weighted is about our times. Our debt leverage debt was variable of times, total pretax rates, ratio cost was well of X About at our at between X.X%. our quarter and the quarter the is and portfolio the for within ratio average of X.X end of XX% X.X which targeted

is remain well sheet strong, balance growth. Our and positioned to we fund

revision businesses collection and Turning guidance. The to XXXX our the from of is expectations core recycling The X.XX%. entirely and outlook is to and We are initial contributions related renewable of acquisitions. growth our prices expect that slightly intact ahead our energy now price, in revenue between recycling key our relative and volume takeaway pace expectations. of plan our business our to performing commodity initial even yield updated X.XX% here in for disposal and and

of the midpoint. in the of a our $XX We $XX million to EBITDA relative to prices million relates to the back to the first of revised the slower outlook in billion, which $X.XXX $XX range expect About adjusted relative billion recovery operating and be now recycled relates commodity year of in to half our performance year decrease plan the our $X.XXX the is million expectations. a to half at in

in taken XXXX and lower-than-expected expected; shortfall inflationary giving company's half over our commodity the EBITDA performance in delivered prices collective event-driven on longer of renewable us the half landfills, to primarily the has are three our operating the our the The in year These relates we of things: top at that pressures, than volumes confidence business. intended in that the energy priorities market-driven outcomes. cost a pressure abate year softening to first first

our disposal we EBITDA by of annually. efforts, our With X% X% collection on SG&A from to again the operating strength will optimization our deliver success operations target and XXXX, the in growing of and

we to pricing drive the long-term addition, EBITDA resilience demonstrate operating margin focused basis differentiation optimization expand of discipline, cost the points to XX the Both growth. and and year. In our measures expect benefits solid of to XX waste for

closing, safely and customers well delivering our the and serve In to costs. optimize reliably team is our to WM

financial We to our their can't and of deliver for growth the on XXXX success. thank will hard-working of contributions us members continued strong all another success team position ahead. road and ourselves I our for year in

let's questions. for that, Michelle, open With line the

Operator

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Tyler Brown

there. moving that about commodity, morning. a lots talk about Maybe the we Devina, kind CNG I around detail, bridge good quite XX credit so the tax a basis of walk you talk in margins, little in margin just can in know bit there's more fuels, points to that bit but year-over-year. Hey, M&A. how

Devina Rankin

had lot first we moving renewable half from solid impact basis prices Yes, you're in impact in the energy what pieces. And points, about right, you a basis recycling talked what XX Tyler, you are of and we about this when that an to there and had see to negative Similar quarter. to waste of dilutive is fuel margin recycling quarter, the the again, combine is didn't XX that points. XX of M&A, was about then first half offset a

things quarter, expansion commodity substance of that So things, and SG&A which we're really cost more pleased timing those the the and in that optimization. focus are at when is produced on you two we real solid and related two margin waste that look is the its and it

Tyler Brown

Right.

commodities of So and the maybe of saying? you're kind kind fuel M&A. Is what offset that

Devina Rankin

Exactly.

Tyler Brown

the us if we Okay. I number right about 'XX. X% and modeling? touch points to like QX, think is a X% talk sequentially And Perfect. something how just basis cost be you higher? unit should Will curious coming about with And in just did tick for then margins? then help in to think QX down to then fiscal they if XX up maybe XX about quarter, guys that feels or I'm inflation it still last

John Morris

start, probably second to I'll Devina. when question But tell So to the part best then inflation barometer Tyler, I that and the for look you labor. is leave would probably maybe I at that I'll

higher X% good than that you projected a I were down, heard around I think to my had remarks, news, obviously in right what think which as in tad it moderate. the quarter, we is the the came We for number we prepared you referenced. continues

that labor anniversarying we progressive the each continue and increases. But of the as that moderate is to of continue news looked it at the I to months some through peak as good the we're think quarter we is, see moderate

also our receive would that last track prepared good this than in the be to my less on opposed as And as on of second we're M&R XX% the side. you is to remarks, about news The years. few heard the part year half trucks

about the we ability and So down. to the persistence feel continue drive another seen Devina's, inflation. place that's little commentary year good by where to a of our evidenced of and bit my OpEx as balance we've in But

Devina Rankin

when in your revenue. to looking we're really in at of from on John And produce question, we think ability is long EBITDA XX% margin. XX% we look to part operating there's back long that the and term, what just at in And that that's on really that's And in the term being that the we able upside in here XX% expenses to we the waste we're side solid X% of a percentage -- target think from potential the as come is confident second XX.X% can I of of year discussed. when start percentage based benefit and to look there. expect XXXX our traditional as QX, just at half But SG&A when Tyler, we incremental deliver revenue we what say

Tyler Brown

one, Excellent. And real Very then good. quick. my last

incremental So intact. is the Jim, sounds like it of recycling EBITDA $XXX million from energy

we mention fluctuate, did the have the deferral. You $XXX million that CapEx may timing did and

If So are how in Thank bit? that Or the much you 'XX expecting Is at case? little incremental. from it pushed a at I million those? back Day, $XXX incremental like EBITDA out something Investor still you. that the has was look this been point,

Jim Fish

kind like RNG of -- were permitting, delays, supply comfortable the Look, we're far The timing Tyler. with was interim insight it for that. CapEx, third-party that. end into We that. whether the million, knew that which change, would of still Thanks, Yes. things number of both and as buildup $XXX give really recycling, designed as things chain-related, some to year was

months. So the we that guidance that last number over taken what those shifts we'll give to XXXX of some have incorporate few when update is number, the do place

Tyler Brown

you. Thank helpful. That’s Okay.

Operator

moment our one next for And you. Thank question.

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ahead. Your is please line go open,

Toni Kaplan

much. so Thanks

see decel a disposal this that X.X% that just of did You this level? accelerate year. talk XQ. from Can about in bit cause sort and little exceed a what should collection you We to of will mentioned

John Morris

think Good when where improvement point at thing seen an rate of have really to the between morning, you is Toni. we the would looked look I I I core would now two we we tell one close the go back price core and conversion confidence year. as we're as that's yield, we're you, quarters the XX% year, the we're at see the and guided of of price than given to. the that's better through yield, to X.X% putting that we half And through into us something originally what converting to going in first

Toni Kaplan

bit on that SG&A for the to Thanks I ask little a more Terrific. optimization. wanted calling out.

color and going there have any additional regard with Just to on on what's to you left much how maybe that? do

Devina Rankin

Sure.

So as customer our automation I office. really That's significant been most mentioned business. the the really the in back our traction, our we've seen success experience optimization strong in SG&A across overall. prepared of efforts part my particularly that And optimization in driver change the of remarks, underpins of and

happen other our to We of parts as in expect well. things similar business

And had Jim both X% thing have position, could so that we that at talk told we either hard achieve. really said achieve that would number, a and we when CFO while about the you we SG&A we're a us, fact of looking to if started I the was that

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Toni Kaplan

lot. a Thanks Terrific.

Operator

one moment. And you. Thank

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Bryan Burgmeier

question. for Good morning. taking the Thanks

about following yield prepared comment exceeding in press question, X.X%. there's Just the release of on and growth remarks up a so Tony's

you guidance guidance the yield baked that what kind the revenue on any X.X%? be your have growth it what's into detail assume is can of now? of you above great. Is of would X.X%, level at So do Or midpoint

Devina Rankin

the about X.X% that's It's at as specifically we're the started Sure. basis a increase looking XX point midpoint, where and we from year.

Bryan Burgmeier

we was recycled maybe the July? some think to provide And you basket. are updated appreciate need Got about average maybe just Can commodity you much improvement or during trying Thank you. on where it. to how it. see Just what in second the Got in detail June, Thanks. view the the on half? XQ I

Jim Fish

going I'm to that with here Hemmer, Brian, for Tara Yes, she's let sitting you. her I'll take us. let

Tara Hemmer

Excellent.

half QX really commodity price commodity And a going I for on for types. second the So what recycling was tale $XX. have our is the different of in you of year think two

you think we're fiber fiber being about driven capacity and ramp coming a domestically. slow our by expecting that's in online pricing, really some If pricing, mill

and related is really of from prices story XX% to seen is which volume, XX% higher-value to we've commodity. a to smaller decline bigger pricing May roughly The our on part but the plastics, And July. non-fiber

year. driving the what's second the our that's recycled commodity outlook So of price for half

$XX half of And so now be a about year the expecting we're to second the ton.

same the really as QX. So

Bryan Burgmeier

I'll Okay, got lot. it it. Thanks a turn now over.

Operator

please. moment One you. Thank

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Michael Hoffman

Jim, Devina, in Tara. in summer. the live there I all and don’t Good morning, Houston was I how steaming know John yesterday. you

So Devina, a commodity. for what was the sequential value of things the all in improvement assumption

So gas, RINs, recycling, recycling original nat just electricity not $X.X billion? the in

Devina Rankin

Yes.

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in the renewable $XX year, initial and energy of million that's a headwind of expectations, the that to with half half businesses. about to front the So relative related

lower And prices, and expectations, prices than a half as specifically Tara really the 'XX. just million recycling half And of causing pressure gas back then our particularly articulated, back on electricity in plastic of the which nat being in is commodity decline year, specifically. $XX from the

Michael Hoffman

Okay. question I that well. didn't ask very

comments, I I'm inferring think, your to You in this, numbers. all it trying piece are in out prepared

were giving what like you improvement, the didn't and midpoint and because were XQ any guidance If means February, back of you guidance billion, got the I sequential think $X.X a have which would in have went of to been? it's the you garbage. Mulligan of we you strength and raising have

Jim Fish

know we thought commodity even natural that way said, didn't improve If year." a expect down would prices going the there, come front it's or of our pricing to crystal improved in on mean, in down think Michael. if we right pricing and you're we they are back would "Hey, we June. would half which significantly, the to think gas half. the was that I Obviously, ball rent down going in had I come come electricity the No, not I

we But I XXXX is those all commodity still, if have range we we gave. in EBITDA still prepared of average known and than But And that growth. by which back we're my I lower things, clearly, had in think gave guidance when would at said in as that way, X.X%, in given remarks, that we coming assumes prices. the X% to X%

We are average XX%, under XX% prices. commodity

So about. XXXX all and now. here raise. to we're But It's lower the crush and and to away having we tell commodity-based to controlling commodity numbers. what come thinking, sit going and gosh, I looking initially wasn't going we've I I what predict. been disappointed it when from looked I example, are then history Normally, not and I'm hard -- things normally, be It's it's sometimes SG&A predict, at quarter when for the Why And back. and It's to you to on well, start margins. just going pricing walk first we used talking all -- and beat a at this these you just are that's price rebound. that

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Michael Hoffman

Right.

That's is and as the performing collection obvious, conclusion. core recurring or repeating better. I'm So but disposal planned the

Jim Fish

actually, XX. right. right? you, to I would mean, when say, SG&A just there was I I'm we wondering I sitting being better, CFO, Devina X%. talked argue that's how I mean could tell I'd little you a Yes, about get

Michael Hoffman

got she's bragging rights. So

Jim Fish

than she way at was. Yes, is better this I

Michael Hoffman

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normal hurricanes, of sort baseline. too, recurring over stuff baseline didn't -- not happens deferrals? So you the of below not this Are a there's again, over get certain terribly that because the is it's even you only though and predictable, but

John Morris

Michael. two So things,

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So that's answer number one.

baseline. team on homework don't you, this think the I of talk little below the and done here. special waste bit side, a would of the to I've I a lot on tell no, I think we're

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Jim Fish

I -- the into think a what holding until was get went sense visibility on of Michael, Well, pattern that I they companies when here. real going about a of And a was you these here it better makes economy. potential that somewhat for on probably mentioned these crisis lot think, banking

of on. the those have timing projects. checkbook they with bit some lock they a discretion a on projects, put of will So which today, little do these They

put talking just strong The are for projects. pipeline pipeline, been quarters. lockdown is about they all there, of good these still that but still still really a strong. some customers that on several We've Still

so -- and million and mattered. budget, down And tons significantly half RGC down year-over-year in very our first down X.X versus the that look, special waste for

reappear. do will as out won't these news good do commodity they're the not again, prices to not back. kind They going of all It's will will. were control. They It's things They projects. But if that them. of not those is as if our come

that's So might this walking you better feeling I'm here out than about why think. of

Michael Hoffman

then And Tara, so Okay. in the capturing impact spending it. was such answered the since was how delay does much and ITC I delay information but the have How you time -- this, missed given sensitive? may

Tara Hemmer

at of benefit it It ensure doesn't the need we confident impact the do that the we to work we've ITC. done all. that that to We're get

Michael Hoffman

the to stuff? on is based what then XX% XX% probability content And from and you that it up all can work that

Tara Hemmer

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Michael Hoffman

Okay.

that's spend upside million thing. to $XXX to anywhere of So million. to from pleasant $XXX another going $X.X spending million billion, you're Instead $XXX --

Tara Hemmer

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get XX%, XX% anywhere think we they're we where of to So work can the doing there. the the get

Michael Hoffman

it, you Okay. less it, Cool. said Devina, on pass-through missed impact of the And then, I fees margins? what if was

Devina Rankin

XX on basis the was about surcharge, fuel the impact So points.

Michael Hoffman

segment just Okay. this what what this happened the might is quarter? details chances experience from are get And a learned then more we with reporting

Devina Rankin

absolutely. Yes,

processes, And that's coordination out bolstering same aspect portfolio. of you I team the is my time So every happening with asset we're reporting something associated systems, building network. the would close team think this growing we're the the the say is between that business Tara's is I financial that and on what hear at important

that expectations term, our course goal, so keep the over it in have of SEC to we'll year. and be this quality level And the near and rest build financial the that's able of we'll towards working information we of

Michael Hoffman

Terrific. Thank you so much.

Operator

comes line question with Kaye next from the of Our Noah Oppenheimer.

ahead. open, Your please line is go

Noah Kaye

it or there presenting in be delays perspective? why. industry? the construction challenges incremental of you development I be this I'd Thanks from But How for permitting so are understand on to in curious your absolutely investments. and temporary And clear, this up think permitting sort much. to either on color the do we view the RNG extent growing what new pick sustainability nothing I'll environment, a any industry, are

Tara Hemmer

it's set context to here. think I some important Well,

of view. projects We large same number we're the flight portfolio have really and in at a base time,

it, them delay. about are of think to you If going some

of Some to were working accelerate. them

projects about If in we'll happening over XX think you have well XXXX, what's under construction.

And utilities working local with ensure how get working that we're building advance agencies to so we're figure with our we to we interconnects can out permits. permitting

be. continue really announced that And is, construction of a on later that's course. large when on programs going QX, really impact and color said, to evaluate. a lot we'll and will we're like year, So the this projects, you this we bit to why what happen normal Things give more

Noah Kaye

a follow-up out? we Or now. today? half first of of hedging? for south kind of impact a RINs blended year tease the from so, still around upside that be Okay. average possibly original where some the sort bit the Xs, there assumptions to low the RIN penciling of year of little there And full of of $X could the for just the Is RINs being If Obviously, year. kind north are out guide, the can from for

Tara Hemmer

the at it. exactly to That's right way look

it about is you tale think halves. now year, of So two RIN if of the a with at prices around the And half second really $X.

the the that remember selling year. of been to have course You we've ratably over

expect volume of like XXX. year the of second for had year. in So locked we of blended be more our half second the some a the on average basis, But half the to we

Noah Kaye

guess helpful. a and John. And I Okay. question then Jim perhaps Super for

If the some to it. comps But tells? is the Obviously, the at earlier detail around of tough on the you what story and help between lines, you special pocketbook to waste that volumes just the that went mean, I sense look at deferrals. some of in collection make of in MSW us disparity disparity, looking

Jim Fish

a hard is the think Well, there's I a tell what of I it's to number disparity. factors. causing little bit mean different

declined because a look COVID. of kind since in has there and movement bit the work-from-home downtowns, at held kind You might estate of we those even have market commercial hold taken the -- real

we at MSW, get on weren't significantly up good, quite the price year-over-year. I MSW mean fact volumes but forever we very price MSW, may that more it's able encouraging and look If what up, to sequentially price was were that talked MSW you good. about MSW is is be

for not So while is with encouraging us. MSW MSW concerned we're and volume volume, that getting I'm overly we're price, roll-off also being very getting down.

the Some few to to by to we a that bit is we in but contracts, I what kind of RESI us weren't then to a we've volume flattish, of because mean go special related wanted is they design. is where lost was them. it maybe Commercial projects. down. go of order waste willing retain expected, kind little bit a And

a business it for we're I national very a business pickup was there margin more just my our bit but a that talked about differentiating does where remarks, basically about. in shift, we think truly volume from is special example, come I standpoint, expected. well. It's the ourselves that you at business. in accounts, mentioned especially accounts waste hence, there different that than, but We're doing the and prepared thought that -- national as we're So of a we've

John Morris

The only well. add and there of versus improvement, X% saw seen look main a similar you get residential, the if that thing quarters, at at continue up. I the and those you in volume the residential and look front you trend if last to revenue the And we couple business we've would rightsize try it on back, margins

end street containers about that in And we anniversarying X.X% you printed positive I actually about talked On franchise the the putting time, the in volume. back back actually business the take loss terms addition and that ironically. to one the XX,XXX back, at account national looked commercial quarter. on up then the we're we of for same did to what out side, impact go And of some net at about

for some and Jim there's some answer the you our I noise in level in and that's you. from but that's confidence to why there, think So of granularity, hear I

Noah Kaye

much. We granularity. so appreciate that Thanks

Operator

line question the of Markets. Sean comes with Capital next KeyBanc Eastman Our from

ahead. Your go please line is open,

Sean Eastman

just perspective, questions. the year. just core trend next X% the the year a good next light wanted inflation that going into into for months the I everyone. great back X% that I to come to growth EBITDA my wondered taking of Thanks pricing Hi, to in signs going story, the confidence conservative OpEx range optimization. of light more is in Is next SG&A from in your on XX, model view? that opportunity how cost an over setting up XX in on

Jim Fish

say guess wouldn't conservative. based I Look, I I quarter, know. don't this it on think... was I

Sean Eastman

Well, was thinking you So said quarter about. the commodities, I'm right? this

Jim Fish

John see a us. front come for bit. maybe we to And down. training gave be about been and stubborn is talked think OpEx, over time to to X% about good confident kidding see today. pricing good while lot that those a We're know. inflation the in OpEx I 'XX story good said. a very I we're half has we're come you half, story a But like a to as more starting moderation, here. had you a we've range. But I X% in for things us we the talked starting some of We're continues those. SG&A that kind starting about, see to I'm very in hours look, talked little down components feeling mean,

truck deliveries. So maintenance, unit efficiency we're improvements, on getting cost per

look, All and off we've be last caused to us XX% talked of a years. we optimistic, jumping XX% I that as probably say, things number about Devina the was couple that a mentioned would And -- decent for margins felt fairly point. of being those yes, achievable

a point of of improvement of where XX strong basis that really do some bit in really I Now mean, were we're believe we we're a face that. we in the headwinds control. looking margins points out finally our to say, at getting okay,

give to that a more looks still like lot a range very downturn on a the I you that give guidance. in X% as us. big would X% But tell we'll good detail for we So you barring economy that

Sean Eastman

of that prior like million stay maybe but now, be Jim. assumption the the $XXX And sounds to on for that top? layer just it think XXXX, preliminary for on Or about is CapEx helpful. it the that thoughts layer right of way expectation of slid, not of million that is on sort to it? kind would into that for in good growth this, Any Thanks $XXX has sustainability tuned that terms mean, Okay. I a

Devina Rankin

right Yes, about way. Sean, I think it you're thinking the

to layering that think guidance. based are we now, of on hard as we that to running where these give give you payback because up 'XX top on that is these our hear projects I more returns facilities important right we We'll for expectations means 'XX so get and possible. working the accelerate plan best clarity we So to what's for period we now. really and can when have view a that But on strong what the want right as three-year the on that teams quickly all is are

deferrals So to there like delays are working there where accelerate. others we what while some seeing are said, where places can you we're in see we're

our for $XXX best now, layer the prior million right So outlook outlook 'XX. the on is to to

Sean Eastman

much. very Thanks Understood.

Operator

the line Sachs. Revich of Jerry Our comes Goldman next with question from

line ahead. go Your open, please is

Jerry Revich

for absorb outlook seeing, their what to has Good ramp the requirements the credit projects you for everyone. XX grow credits? landfill views visibility can with hit initial you really consumes on we your really given was from EPA's to so that out landfill shadow that you're how potential gas business, up transportation classes, targets. impact to those enough the your I think on pace Based natural do fleet Analyst does the morning, gas the ask other on fast that Tara, Jim, discussed to pipeline Day? gas, decoupling interesting the And lay beyond

Jim Fish

out I'll think is believe give do answer bit, little there and that the rest demand of plenty let I there. a I'll it. then I Tara of

I've gas mean, the going bit XX% for here example. well, routed I think run fleets, is terms of I about gas is the that, natural mean think demand. standpoint, up fleet natural discussion heard about that we you of And answer ceiling there's here as our from been plenty of there's a against demand a of I are to in So kind little of vehicles.

bit So kind I But of you Tara, of the feel side a think, more let about optimistic I'll detail. this. demand give I

Tara Hemmer

on just And a add to Yes. bit to little that. color of

certainty. things. the key obligated producers looking did like about two setting they volume, something renewable for, provided did they One volume parties provided demand WM. it multiyear were strong like that's so obligation, a And raise is think that If signal. two, so EPA And a that multiyear the you are refiners and the by what

really voluntary way right into a halo So interest with a transact to to going effect there's in and the it more the and forward. the We're feel demand voluntary our seeing teams from like signal figure lot market. we actively we're a what's working strong has that, market,

Jerry Revich

potentially of how projects you basis, next are at as And beyond given the lines? point, that looking about the multiyear on focusing projects result? a XX batch the a And pipeline are visibility these beyond accelerating initial to the we

Tara Hemmer

absolutely goes have projects XX. a that beyond pipeline the of We

we're going to We that approach haven't determined yet how pipeline.

information So think It's road. the we'll you about and provide long something that gas. monetize landfill some more our lot a we phenomenal think a down we But opportunity term. of can when resource

Jerry Revich

the year, at looking same revenue results we just top your with apply can range. the And end to half Super. line I to wanted quarter of to RIN shift would the standpoint from ask prices back get page of and sure the just second high you. and in gears, Devina, normal a I'm current on If OCC towards I just make the I'm XXX seasonality DX the

that could keep that So there range. I seasonality the drive normal end even moving to we any pieces let alone make the I'm midpoint low missing or any want of just to need you Are in not versus headwinds sure any towards the differences mind?

Devina Rankin

the expectations. and a about really No, the where be decline some started. revenue at acquisitions way our I with right to million year of recycling relative already the of expect lot to over from looking million you're to we revenue that in $XXX we clarity then to The relative commodity businesses, think down in in the first the on it give $XXX revenue half that course guide

impacts. is normal are see regard hurricane will impacting only start that repeat. thing The XXXX could expectations you our seasonality back to and with not Ian of to the So those for half we did QX see

Jerry Revich

versus to to the that have could from thinking This we the point a are Normally, versus higher your well point I margins. margin else DX cadence? XQ. And ask question how in can prices about keep XQ X.X going in or then that maybe need of X.X to that? year, XQ up as Okay. mind XQ OCC terms we're you're margins similar anything Is and prices

Devina Rankin

Sure.

the cadence, of QX in we 'XX on ago. what credit year offset to margin timing margin alternative be difference fuel So looking at is going the in the QX terms a expansion, typical a will were from the from tax but

QX. concluded that wasn't reminder, regulatory until from a As perspective a

of that all benefit took we QX So in last of year.

traditionally So that's upswing that the see. will thing that we one margin will the dilute

Jerry Revich

you. Got it. Thank

Operator

is from to Jefferies. question line next Our going come with the Moore of Stephanie

ahead. line open, go please is Your

Hans Hoffman

on Hoffman expectations. your kind just is for seeing you anything This relative wondering Moore. I to bit churn if And of on exceeding of Han standpoint? from you're in could pricing just a then comment Stephanie kind a of internal was you're just terms where

Jim Fish

Yes.

way, -- why argue yield our slightly is exceeding that yield. been feel only And to not we would the than quite mentioned pleased guidance, are think price. were about in we're be at where the was to earlier, good could handsome and good. and bit expectation Both is higher absolute, about we're across really now which those, we're stream, the to you fact both think trend number on that numbers, they year-over-year on our original struggle a a which I we're but of -- mentioned price be pretty waste board, then two a core I core would probably good -- most I has the seeing MSW and places sequentially good it up I past, the and the on a and of residential. But on more we maybe the by specific also it, bit see years it almost or

Hans Hoffman

like? maybe level just in you could then look just in M&A comment activity And helpful. That's any environment change it. how terms Got of the there? And valuations on

Jim Fish

Sure.

have at One I seeing it's there's the crept is plans COVID. or now some an you out an behind some that lot labor certainly of their uptick in businesses whether of also as the been activity. time valuations sell, are think There's businesses look these uptick have of them of they things. don't they're is a because up the that these from smaller expectation of succession a of I pressures bit. anticipating, couple to M&A coming a mean businesses because in an

think to the sure of double-edged opportunities. it's for trap fall M&A paying We for a want have these. don't But we way we pipeline do make I nice sword. up into a And us, of want to

-- comes be would are to go rather when are these patient I opportunities if to it so And as away. -- the going we'll those.

paying number me that all of at times, down I'll wait somebody reasonable to a sit today as unless more I'll number. a back So to multiple XX wait more to and to come -- reasonable opposed a sell it to willing is for

Operator

comes question line next of with from Our Tobey the Sommer Truist.

line please go open, ahead. is Your

Tobey Sommer

I it in next maybe hoping a you discuss growth your was being X% Thanks. of sort interplay longer-term your that does growth perspective, half target little several period? And the with X% diminishing a the could and over compensation Do to labor model you half? versus second and that turnover over the then EBITDA first comp years? from how expense growth

John Morris

what And probably One, the you're if back on note a was of referenced So at ago, things year I rates you. that that trended labor XX% Tobey, looking you at. couple depending country over I'll I just a quarter. part for for the about think go X%, of X%

I to on side OpEx So we you on heard momentum it from what expected it labor. have moderated. a But the and We is think of us in good moderate three tad that had all maybe particular more.

exit is which results, is labor why basis turnover a service things color then it on, What's XXX And like we're not seeing when out of of in what kind our down the like. significant? of and are a that down. Devina and what look you half commented a unit, takes to where and of on cost we're And about think exit the margins margins per friction to couple the we from labor continuing points. that but only cost when OpEx half trend there look see some It safety lot driver are quality about And added of that line. driving the we've all on first is kind our second

momentum momentum You're second in year into us of and XXXX. the build build the seeing for that half helping

Devina Rankin

X% interesting midpoint. at sustainability moment EBITDA is specifically, a million businesses. I'll guiding includes the you growth speak That because when what's to XXXX of $XXX at a about for to from million the I $XXX look decline X% think the we're

over that, And in from that's so of optimization million adjust EBITDA and when business. strong you the $XXX X% of costs. solid SG&A growth combination That's of growth the our waste in the execution business

And in X% when see it more. the have really are that, we helps outlook start putting to to of John upside indicates some that about, that forward think labor, see forth. optimization the X% so efforts potential, stabilization that I momentum and does And we spoke it the drive which even just we

Tobey Sommer

hiring, the out the kind training rate I turnover, equation? of appreciate kind of is growth the taking in underlying What discussion. of that comp there

John Morris

sure. not take crack I'm that? you Could one at more

Tobey Sommer

Yes.

is costs? what the compensation look sort there opposed your as So -- your hiring Like take of you what's existing to could at trend maybe a growth and training for employees? your underlying

John Morris

at X.X% yes. That's commented good Yes, unit That average a rate was that looking hour. I question. per

part best were of the was was what XX%, that So world year, last you X%, what's is on happening. probably mentioning at. that's the barometer for looking I what XX%, depending that And

come on has in we half. rate see growth the an that rate, So down of where moderation down. The hourly almost that's coming

Jim Fish

experience. about not them has call through or this positions. them chosen customer for type those, behind is is lot 'XX, on significantly labor I there's But positions replace a that's X,XXX in on talks not this not volume take and far in customer to there emphasis And so pool 'XX think Most of looking side, part we've this of down Devina shrinking adding as is trade concern, our three technology, but John particularly a choose -- that take replace. said, was that. to because the why just are positions the is technology, the experience now out there that been out years four and through to

still a to We number of of those X,XXX X,XXX kind But there left. said positions. are

operating It's the an side that a to at years. example, back. John to from So over some couple rear a And he be joystick. issue, too. back added a end on there out X,XXX a person rear of the there's a the as the equipment, Obviously, load but positions low to only to truck moves loader dangerous safety automated has labor take not more has traditional sitting a loaders. of of component period on is cab there, much operating a in than of for be

the There are XX% of think pickup of years, X,XXX but person only there's see only over next XX% -- or so off to I XXX as not you having we've that do you of productivity. And we in. geared those up take truck get get with as you a could north out, than that the a back, couple taken anything in and come more XXX do something ready But soon go also really out those to far, trucks deliveries. another are

John Morris

at showing mean place expansion longer automated clear of margin in Brent is the drives over thing labor we in demonstrating recycling automation and recycling of to that's real business, dependency the a we're little But up. ratio it's The these takes business recycling. the where team the done out I the XX,XXX one business. the in do and add, over I really nice Tara It showing dollars skipped plus with you benefits a and and would routes. if have a Jim, and reductions, look where job plants

Jim Fish

which talking risk on risk is that labor. you're But about, all of that kind this reduce these inflationary of

Tobey Sommer

you the appreciate comments. being recycling I Excellent. in

a of Just an With to of pipeline Is kind pipeline example, the what a kind maybe anecdote as Or mid-teens one you're disconnect? brief was a you just follow-up kind representative single really there on of whole? that gave of that respect the really relate. seeing, multiple. of acquisition but not and high the

Jim Fish

was, guess I that's to my what I these -- up. point creep look, starting -- of I mean No, valuations you're some think see

multiple mean, to And point on mean, think of be not make four so sense a making particularly my and as if multiple investments digits about double in I that, those. anything compared RNG disciplined a really you to or in a primary I it's recycling, multiple to we're -- compared about you these we're going was seems three put that. to

we when about that, about not comes multiples. So these of be particularly go going think it higher doesn't we're it disciplined mean we're to to do some But I acquisitions. how to going

Tobey Sommer

Thank you.

Operator

comes question next from of Our JPMorgan. with the line Stephanie Yee

Your go line is open, please ahead.

Stephanie Yee

maybe if morning. what so I surprise. your prices wanted perhaps It But fiber piece? the the not like the for this commodity Good sounds XXXX? a driven to ask on front, are, And just decline for you expectations down. what's necessarily much year, the in can about wasn't OCC being plastic on plastic but of comment that just

Tara Hemmer

Sure.

term, we If come for pressure buy you happening are think their recycled plastics, think going that the they long buy virgin have look really market to at come to what's back, down putting if all on and think into you comes But with is about they brands, it what's commitments with the content, to commitments. recycled price happening to to we back meet low, plastics pricing. the is will which

the would some expect that advancing plastic, our and reasons automated go we've those. things investments will recycling of help our more term. we plastics longer those of one markets a longer So see in one the plants They of capture about we would And we're to do. it's recycling ramp It's term. excited which that why that made

Stephanie Yee

growth, average than of XXXX, because that behind was right both tracking higher to May again than there to is the basis I yield that -- higher resi premised back EBITDA is the was on that XX and of think seems post-collection now? on and the on X% collection question momentum in potential, X% margin yields X% expansion XX a also kind EBITDA it pricing, being just generally, on And just Great. presented the and the level that both points, Okay. And mentioned is side? longer-term like

Devina Rankin

Yes, it's a great question, Stephanie.

be way the yield yield and specific between number, in we're inflation. is our flexibility our what to not cost think programs that environments. we've different instead the responsive with to I our pricing spread that at but really looking a is we're that cost And seen satisfied

X% And on focused cover today. so that for spread continuing cost growth. X.X% we're whether closer the optimizing the yield or business long-term the in that right is initial What was in as to ensuring the we we're guidance XXXX price to well get from inflation to as

Stephanie Yee

you. makes of Thank a sense. That lot Okay.

Operator

line Our comes from the with next Schumm TD question Jim Cowen. of

open, line go please Your ahead. is

James Schumm

Good morning. squeezing in. for me And thanks

will program. be cited higher So than the might that indication out give the the that any you CapEx Is be? targets fair what you you magnitude growth to achieve can what inflation in And to in it laid sustainability of 'XX assume April? total

Devina Rankin

overall will at that you updates the increase this from difficult of to this clarity have is at to significant look material upon ensure us the the point. of be do shift We inconsequential quite magnitude 'XX. have we we outlook we just give for overall and a regard the are program, the we else specific outlook revisions one to 'XX Everything to million of with that to of an we expecting what size the but are program $XXX multiyear it, a the this And time. near-term quarter point It's executing the and that. most meaningful that to update in or going of because in the give nature there at to as any is is wait

James Schumm

Okay. for Great. Thank And lastly you. me. just then

You issues mentioned maybe the issues like supply that? a you anything and or like seeing couple or some companies constraints chain any any interconnects. pipeline with Are of third-party equipment permitting for

Tara Hemmer

our related of did making equipment longer particular procured to items that lead good the we the job a and R&D really time our sure side, we in those components side On on build. critical

about good feel that. we So

of watching One the components. both electrical things really been that on sides is we've

and and of year then has a a nature then those very lead that. in front close be site interconnect, tend team with out in the typically time job local specific. good in and and so And to Those like the done coordination items very pipeline out getting are electrical of working

and we're navigate this scale build pretty size the our trying you to to there trying when seen a the we've of what that is here And So and think normal some we're issues again, course and portfolio. through. about

James Schumm

lot. sense. makes that Thanks Okay, a

Operator

comes the of question next Our CIBC. from with Kevin Chiang line

Your line please go open, is ahead.

Kevin Chiang

my -- for me detail call taking ones I just questions on given for already. Maybe Thanks the this appreciate here. quick all two

the thinking that the $XXX to $XXX be out Just that's you the number? that ITC right confirm to still confirm, of sustainability to expectations million Day, should at about laid range the Investor we just million,

Tara Hemmer

bit clarity Yes. future ranges. more We'll IRS, we those the greater feel confident we the in in once a but from provide have detail

Kevin Chiang

I And churn, years, tracked prepared obviously the rate of helpful. prepared That's then if the from the couple nicely core in Okay. in over you mentioned, between not price remarks -- yield, past churn XX%, here price -- that's conversion longer. and think, your not core

or deflation Just Do wondering aren't see competitive, how think you these seen, of you're to as fast. little makes that in that think starting things and some a we've inflation, more inflation they're like kind crush hold you think little little a X%, not X% sounds these that you let's a buckets this about competitive price core little and or more same players to bit inflation think as on bit a conversion you've Or changed disinflation rising on structurally bit? rate, environment if bit that it to of conversion become an yield you X%, say, about rate pricing they could the you do even slip of X%? in how that's, versus seeing smaller

John Morris

Jim said is trying or inflation quarter to is when before, it X%, ideal. expand margin X% quarter last not the

probably stronger a little that. our a and down. we grow bit down is to see we So We get CPI obviously, as comes example -- don't inflation good margin, inflation of ability tick see as

I look that X at I commented the which Secondly, side, ways, tailing of which on. is cost CPI, two obviously, off. is

We've contracts. our you X.X% of The of conversion a about it a index look guidance lot we got of there. about price we talked on that and when back still piece bit tailwind rate of second is gave as a

inflationary of historic if regardless think high of CPI, what's So to happened we've get at on strategy, side. on priced expenses operating -- CPI and you top environment, it's an margin the I lastly, look CPI, been our lower whether pricing

Kevin Chiang

for you you much. I’ll That’s helpful. very it And color. Thank there. thank leave the

Operator

over to like and back remarks. would I And you. for his Thank conference turn the closing President to Jim CEO, Fish,

Jim Fish

so much. I us It out. appreciate this helped explain to And Okay. quarter morning. this feeling about detailed really why coming we're good Thank questions your you

thank Thank all for So joining you you us. for those.

again forward quarter. to to next Looking talking you

Operator

today's This conference call. for concludes you participating. Thank

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