ASGN (ASGN) 25 Oct 182018 Q3 Earnings call transcript

Company Profile

Participants

Laura Bainbridge	ADDO Investor Relations
Edward Pierce	EVP and CFO
Peter Dameris	CEO & Director
Theodore Hanson	President
Randolph Blazer	Chief Operations Officer
George Wilson	CEO and President, and things we save ECS Federal, Inc.
Kevin Buddhdew	Credit Suisse
Gary Bisbee	Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Jeff Silber	BMO Capital Markets
Edward Caso	Wells Fargo Securities
Tobey Sommer	SunTrust Robinson Humphrey
Timothy McHugh	William Blair & Company
Mark Marcon	Robert W. Baird & Co.

Call transcript

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. And as a reminder, today's call will be recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our hostess and facilitator, Laura Bainbridge of ADDO Investor Relations. ma'am. ahead, go Please

Edward Pierce

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Peter Dameris

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professional have creating and this, for industry. entire are opportunities realizing the staffing Our attractive growth secular customers

particularly contract against budgets, benefits of funding long-term federal intelligence Our increased the Federal and existing areas continues and the artificial solutions defense, agency see and IT and spending of contracts, to forward intelligence, civilian services business and awards, learning. positive in new robust of visibility machine

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Theodore Hanson

Thanks, Peter.

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work, services value pace. staffing at a to our service faster grow, consultative or our much added and we are continue are share, offerings, growing While taking

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which million, the up constant and days, billable the segment permanent basis basis of points for in the X.X% placement of for billable our meeting billable with an X.X% had revenues, number growth basis, down -- Oxford revenues, an same X.X% adjusted XXXX, currency of Gross third grew expectations. XX.X% in the were line business segment's XX of revenues, initial X.X% permanent CyberCoders, was revenues segment quarter year-over-year, expectations. the day to account year-over-year, on margin adjusted year-over-year which Oxford our year-over-year. Adjusted Core for quarter offering, approximately our third $XXX.X due were performing were year-over-year. the approximately XX.X% up or up in-line X.X% within For for revenues accounts or with expectations, placement service segment. X.X% part for day large mix for but segment XX.X% on

some As the progress we me typically do, let in color give Core. on Oxford

last performance year-to-date upon and IT the It We have fully growth European domestic revenue to seen is our productivity and moderate in business. a the quarters. in we’ve created year-over-year our longer driven by Engineering was build sales QX. momentum through strong strategies and disciplines road our institutionalize few Growth over

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Randolph Blazer

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quarter in once grew also again growth. double topline outpaced and the digits EBITDA segment's Our

our driven and revenue by Our sales, strong productivity EBITDA infrastructure of teams. and performance EBITDA growth of and to delivery conversion was gross continued profit

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George Wilson

growth standpoint. an services sequentially. performance $XXX of from the million, both year-over-year ahead in IT industry the revenues third reported had in companies This the Thanks, ECS and very revenue X.X%, operating quarter, for good was ECS Rand. a space. X.X% profitability and increase of average peer of federal

key continued and areas artificial ECS. of for cybersecurity, have solutions business cloud services in strong intelligence, We demand for and seen areas

is variety total quarter trailing for across System, funding into of customer of to Pay and a well Integrated a of of interest to the army’s With Defense the Included and QX ratio in customers book-to-bill level new skills to new and management third of this to In deep X, in providers quarter, to contract increased a in learning third We IPPS-A. have and and In vehicles. the ratio our ECS positioned end and to $XXX.X awards $X.X of commercial billion a quarter, seen relevant Personnel a artificial support our quarter ECS's IT support the work intelligence. our contract as also and a partnerships see X.X award the technical business backlog healthy Intelligence strengthen customers contract we we referred equates cyber, received in ECS knowledge, machine in continued to million with with task XX-month revenues. orders X.Xx risk cloud, our where IT coverage AI required and modernization quarter. fourth skills, of and clients awards customer proposal high were continue activity third its

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in customers In Platform. Status Competency communities. Learning We from we and standpoint, were deliver solutions a Premier to status profitability with premier Defense and Google’s as grew our for in adjusted ECS’s faster Web the to than a were call Amazon to growth us addition Partner the our critical and adjusted I EBITDA ASGN’s continues AI Machine designated awarded to recently to quarter. a AWS EBITDA attribute turn wider Intelligence which costs revenues, Cloud higher revenues Pierce discuss From Microsoft, also -- over now line in financial to in results. We allow the over overall will base. our top to Ed? indirect fixed the Ed contract leverage the largely Services third

Edward Pierce

George. Thanks,

Peter As year-over-year exceeded quarter revenues XX.X% and pro the for estimates. forma were previously-announced a our on basis mentioned, up

repayments flat XX.X%, for in are Our constant pro margin expense second was a favorable from quarter. was quarter attributable a last as variances partially compensation and same quarter's growth line of and forma forma facility million, lower credit expenses, million the $X Interest our On sequential higher million and $XX.X two quarter XX the The last Xnd. the SG&A in Interest excluding expense of $XXX.X than to was our approximately quarter to basis our in growth the healthcare as estimates. down quarter expenses. acquisition pro previously-announced growth integration-related principal a billable the second basis, days mainly million $XXX $X.X was decrease for on was quarters, Despite on XX.X%. by million over profit, sequential rate than rate of XX.X%. facility increases also previously totaled from was points was of down we amendment growth and approximately revenue the announced one-time credit result our Gross which gross of currency and SG&A offset were our expenses sequentially quarter in second result with the related LIBOR. expenses, in the for April of estimates. rate

do provisional three, on on one-time million, XX% estimates quarter quarter $XX.X prospective of income was pro related compensation. rate before tax $X.X quarter for earnings and $XXX.X foreign last $XXX.X tax as basis. cash between approximately of in recently-issued effective mentioned, from from benefits EBITDA credits four, of guidelines, any was attributes of the previously-announced our costs IRS from executive from acquisition. the free was quarter acceleration of not or third or compensation quarter million tax up of XX.X%, activities stock-based rate up as forma from on was effective excess cash the and Cash treatment tax based million excess related XX.X% in income the the tax a Our expect of Adjusted quarter two, Adjusted the Net into well third tax XX.X%. the Cash lower benefit deemed Income employment compensation, range items the result from XX% of: $XX.X previously which for flows to of a the million, of $XX.X $X.X points estimates, X stock-based rate were percentage rate $XX.X than in up a revenues. million related for for the estimate benefited deferred million our various changes, The guidance loan a tax tax lower was quarter XXXX. benefits for the year $XX.X tax net one, from lower $XX.X third include higher for our we approximately transitional to year. the of was to will last to we and the our X.X% and million, basis, in million, flow operating benefit cash tax XXXX. On deductions flows and ECS million, the million dividends

long-term of During the quarter, our $XX million we repaid debt.

quarter Revenues basis. are in on and are up defined forma estimated X.X% Net the from $XX.X preceding XXXX, percent XX% as the net billable X.X today's adjusted X.X% to million, Billable to from higher million estimated to pro release, fourth and growth year-over-year be income range $XX.X million for of to X.X day the which $XX.X of million; $XXX For sequentially. days be days from than million; per $XX.X range implies revenues income $XXX million. range quarter EBITDA to $XXX from adjusted to fourth a to to are days, down estimated X.X% Days, to XX.X is to to expected $XXX range quarter. to

cash for Peter estimates turn quarterly. goodwill income net adjusted Our the the call which savings related trademarks, some savings to do are deduction to over the not $X.X amortization and include closing remarks. tax approximately million Peter? for now I back will

Peter Dameris

you, Thank Ed.

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Operator

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Kevin Buddhdew

team. Congrats Thank the Great. results. and you, on Peter and

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Peter Dameris.

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Randolph Blazer

Yes, I’m sorry.

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Peter Dameris

you want add to Ted, something?

Theodore Hanson

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Kevin Buddhdew

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Peter Dameris

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we our economic in event feel confident equally the profit to So, generate an with of slowdown. margins attractive ability to regard margins,

insight space is that’s much etcetera. why money your business of so budgets of a versus spending So And I give it's ago because not automating in little being spent of you decisions, government replenishing then, today and an two, inventories. him where digitizing and their must-have don’t George, customers backlog growth and businesses the everything into years is three certain the GDP bit but are don't their -- cyclical. drives with a us

George Wilson

comfortable IT the so AIML the seeing more and said cloud what our we’re in and, such. with really our doing modernization to tying the and the we’ve flowing customers services. call, b, is into technologies budgets that Yes. money we're with lot feeling: also Sure, back more Also comfortable projects a a, Peter. more What

review include IT and the which modernizations this And really ties Peter to they’re down time I providing mentioned, future. all AIML, back it is areas, AIML our solutions as like we lot. and feeling a components. and in in And said, cyber look targeted but management, defense point forward in at So analytics cloud in all to things like document document the again, business

budget environment. comfortable feeling more the is customer with Our current much

Kevin Buddhdew

Congrats Very you. Thank helpful. again.

Operator

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Gary Bisbee

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Peter Dameris

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Randolph Blazer

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Gary Bisbee

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Peter Dameris

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Randolph Blazer

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Peter Dameris

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Gary Bisbee

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Edward Pierce

we a Well, lot considering of are things.

Peter Dameris

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quickly. so fix because point, And at this the we are look so don’t mostly rate deleveraging we to

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Gary Bisbee

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Operator

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Jeff Silber

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Peter Dameris

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Theodore Hanson

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Jeff Silber

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Theodore Hanson

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Jeff Silber

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Peter Dameris

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Randolph Blazer

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Jeff Silber

you clarifying guys that. Thanks so appreciate much. Really Okay.

Operator

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Edward Caso

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Peter Dameris

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Edward Caso

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Peter Dameris

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George Wilson

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Edward Caso

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George Wilson

No. No.

Edward Caso

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Edward Pierce

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Tobey Sommer

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Peter Dameris

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Tobey Sommer

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Peter Dameris

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Tobey Sommer

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Peter Dameris

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Tobey Sommer

consultant What's you, Thank headcount internal investments strategy your for appreciate in that. growth?

Peter Dameris

said, reiterate going to to that what again, let steady I'm Ted speak that's just Well, he will I state.

our We held on have that have privilege never investments. we the back

him here. once through And you where ahead from Ted, curve there's give so and period we're adding more are going you maintenance don't opposite. whole deferred bigger us granularity you'd So exactly no profits, things our affect why of that not heard to see to the we're strong, spend? maybe the it's this

Peter Dameris

business mean, steady think adding opportunity. that's too I keep [indiscernible] we where don't and I to state, a much Peter, there's think I I have add. It's it, will

standpoint, efficient steady on toolset internally we or more working but it's keep we go us will that think make an automation things We from there. different and productive as

Tobey Sommer

the close ECS? the Thanks. of Last at leverage question. you. a Thank ratio What one is was numbers just

Peter Dameris

XXXX. April Yes, it X, on X.X was

Tobey Sommer

very you much. Thank

Operator

All right.

ahead. Please we of McHugh to line Now will go go William Tim from Blair. the

Timothy McHugh

some basis? Hi. been backlog given a are of there's Thanks. on I that but you rate that you number my just noise, have the the growth on of seeing us backlog acquisition, Most ECS asked, a know give questions but year-over-year can sense

Peter Dameris

to historical backlog. your George have quarterly we So, not that published qualitative answer on historic you but more basis, a want I

compare of prior kind cycles just historically, So it form if you of what in seen could. you've and

George Wilson

years with as quarter coverage that submitted at reported have the And I well say this and last a X.Xx now as sure. have we ratio. almost Yes, healthy will very award. very, a waiting [ph] is for was been company I our pipeline seven

it is accelerating. a going that's So X.X bit X.X, or so

We of backlog, okay? terms now have the to moved X.Xx in

Timothy McHugh

Thanks.

Operator

Marcon All right. W. line the Baird. Mark And now Robert from from of Please go ahead.

Mark Marcon

you the Apex. us afternoon. continue solid? Systems Apex you Creative maybe growth with up in assume to regards outside within ends bit being was to ECS, that the give and of will I Good still of grower, followed the if a specifically terms could that but more color way Sciences lead Would the little guidance wondering by slowest Life

Peter Dameris

for we good One, that. gave exited fortunate Mark, We revenues weeks two expect tell you, continue the the with and the of our fastest the grew division largest I'd exiting momentum, quarter. to quarter you we us kind

Our next revenue. grew outside but of XX.X% the and it -- And but think largest much division it's division. of Life the smallest a Apex it's year, Sciences I this growth ECS on was it base grew, had smaller X.X%

of take away good what you that from comments momentum was my exiting kind should wondering So think quarter. I the is

Mark Marcon

a of about at the the point? you much I was specifically. to business, statement can of little grown Great. it Apex what about percentage Systems, just thinking With that bit talk has I is this or got work how that. revenue regards

Peter Dameris

not Rand, would him give comments basis some you qualitative but that we prepared given some qualitative comments, please. break out on to yet, revenue are a specific if

Peter Dameris

Yes.

it's than numbers for we Apex growing So, posted Mark, overall. first faster the of Systems all,

is XX.X%, System that's question the in we first data is than that, was growing point. Apex Does quarter do faster or -- if that answer consulting the So your

Mark Marcon

or help was I magnitude wondering …

Randolph Blazer

of consulting? magnitude The

Mark Marcon

Right.

Randolph Blazer

of it's certainly percent well, our -- It's revenues. double-digit

more clients to part of I we number becoming -- and We the years it's it's given the ex we the material important and it's number. client. haven't of think last how an providing that serve spent value jumping into

-- in So their and base. the team overall have revenues the client way, revenues but Sciences by and now double-digit account as into range the a And of Creative, definitely in Systems. consulting our also Oxford percent it's in Apex Life

Mark Marcon

trying you with in And terms what to of bill bill of regards rates and and the the wage on increases tightness when rate market? about particularly, to the trends rate Great. that and the then rates, anticipating, think the labor are we how's just sell recruiting increases, impacting wage

Peter Dameris

Rand?

Randolph Blazer

I pay Well, launched we’ve rates. think our

are rates but by the different in not say skill pay migrating rates Our as it's bill obviously as different types. general, market I would fast up

for the about has this it higher in think may employment the talked So IT the in certain less part, there been years. regions are world before, some for skills availability have very that But most a around demand, are in we've status country. high I

X.X% economy rate. unemployment rate, while a so is low a already the unemployment is been And had now IT overall very

what and certain we've certain And years. the knows jobs are and if medical, So benefits built is healthcare, the seen constantly from remember, you opportunities. I new but rate base, off candidate think, it's insurance loyalty and time awareness pay and XXXK nothing the just off pay that rotating what will, people and with not a brand over a we've that

continued and well So technical almost them as issues. help support some of through training as -- their and service a concierge to

that what we a what on between But of where a disconnect haven't situation need I’m thing combination look, haven't there. we factory and found clients. run a knocking we big I think we we wood, keep it's our So provide that -- can into

Mark Marcon

bit And key then for headcount regards SG&A to were was That’s was what it with past were the this What for great. there actually the even we than lower additions. little quarter, that? looking a driver though

Edward Pierce

a XX% said revenues in And cash to also a as on be before it had certain we Mark, on of in least go-forward basis, acquisition at variances expect some remarks, our expenses, we QX. favorable obviously we we are basis expenses guidance giving near-term. related prepared in about and for

Mark Marcon

you. Great. Thank

Operator

more this time. there Please [Operator no And Instructions] go ahead. at are questions

Peter Dameris

Thank fourth All reporting results. Everyone right. we Well, forward evening. look thank you. quarter to our for attention you and a good have your

Operator

your and Teleconference. gentlemen, conclude and using that your Thank conference today. participation AT&T does for Ladies for you

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